Should i give up?

i cant win

$ graph:+ Show Spoiler +

bb graph:+ Show Spoiler +

so basically its almost all nl100, maybe 50k hands of nl200 and 50k hands of nl50

ive been living off rakeback only the last 8 months

stars obviously hate me and really want me to stop raking for them, or they have some kind of evil plan of me playing MORE since i have given up actually winning at this game, so since im not winning i should add more hours/tables to gain more FPP's

maybe thats their plan..

but seriously, i cant win, should i just end the pain? I still "like" poker, in some fucked up way, i like learning and i see myself as a decent thinker/smart guy, and i really think i could beat higher limits if i just could win some of the 80%+ pots


Poll: Should longple give up?
(Vote): yes obviously its not working out
(Vote): no, hang in there bro
(Vote): leave stars forever
(Vote): fuck being a winner, go for SNE


ive been whining alot the last months, ppl probably dont care and im probably just anoying but w/e, even fake sympathy feels good

and I thought i ran bad at -26BI below EV this month...

i will give u fake sympathy

Living of rakeback is nice though....

dont be results oriented, that graph only confirms how solid you are and now much you should have won.

move to euro site, u will probably crush 100nl and 200nl even harder.. and you won't lose much of the rakeback cuz it's ~30% from the beginning

180 buyins behind EV.

This is probably the first time I give my sympathy for someone running bad, because this if pretty brutal

u deserve to whine

suspicious BOSS graph is suspicious.

On June 01 2010 14:01 lucifer wrote: suspicious BOSS graph is suspicious.

yeah, i guess you moved to boss after 400k hands. At boss you cant see mucked cards, where you suck someone etc. so the EV curve doesnt mean anything there

lol so it's not a real EV-graph then?

sick downswing but if what stars says is true you "should" eventually run better

ye sry, i played about 90k hands on boss this year so i guess its not 100% accurate

100k of the hands is played on everleaf network and 450k of hands on stars

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even though my EV graph from boss is pretty accurate since i almost always let my opponent put the last $ in the pot by 5betting 99bb/raising 99bb to get the information of my opponents hands/dont give away info about my hand if i lose

so the only times i dont see their hands is when valuebetting river and they call with worse, not that it woulda showed on the EV graph but w/e

im up ~3000€ on swedish site though, but that fucks up the amounts i didnt include those hands (3k€ = 30000SEK so it woulda fucked it up alot)

but w/e im pathetic crying about this anyways, ive still made pretty decent money compared to my friends working fulltime

isn't this what a lot of all-in preflop coolers would look like?

try switching site, might help ur mindset

sometimes even if ur super good it seems u can't win on a given network, don't know why... has to do with being pessimistic or i dunno, just check out on PTR

takechip and flipokeher

same guy, he just recently quit playing FTP for good, or so he told me ;p

so gross, but keep grinding man
pretty sure you are +ev playing nl100
maybe do what fayth says about switching sites. might help with confidence or something

this is the worst run bad i've ever seen in my life

i cant seem to find the site that'll make me win either ((
this graph is so sad coz id be happy getting this graph over 700k hands with all the rakeback i could potentially get lol im an idiot

i missclicked on poll to quit -.-
fuck no !
hand in there horaaaaa

hope you start running better. grats for not going insane. sickest graph ever

bump for the lulz!

this is what you guys can achieve in 1 year if you put your mind to it!

Nice find!

Unreal, this is so inspirational

so the answer is to not play with stars dealing

op you shouldn't give up imo

Imo his heater came at the right time at the right limits xD

epic bump

shit happens. Last year I was down 130k or so in ev in 1 month. like 40buyins or something

haha i remember this. still can't believe how much he improved in 1 year.. insane.

what happend after this longple? how did you improve soo fast? you obviously had an "aha moment'

On July 27 2011 23:37 rememp wrote: Unreal, this is so inspirational

On July 28 2011 00:40 k4ir0s wrote: haha i remember this. still can't believe how much he improved in 1 year.. insane. what happend after this longple? how did you improve soo fast? you obviously had an "aha moment'

j/k

on the speed on improvement, from personal experience i dont think longpie had an "aha" moment.

Most pros get good with in this time span, look at me and fayth, we both moved from 1cent 2 cent to 25/50 in a year, same with longpie. and im sure many many others, i think its more of a can or cant situation. Its a case of if your cut out for this game, u'll get good in a year, or you absolutely wont make it.

Sorry to be an ass and burst the bubble, for all the players who still try very hard and haven't made it after a year, go find something else to do. It doesn't mean your silly in the head it just means you dont have the natural skill set, be it patience, logic, ethic or heart.

On July 28 2011 01:42 wobbly_au wrote: on the speed on improvement, from personal experience i dont think longpie had an "aha" moment. Most pros get good with in this time span, look at me and fayth, we both moved from 1cent 2 cent to 25/50 in a year, same with longpie. and im sure many many others, i think its more of a can or cant situation. Its a case of if your cut out for this game, u'll get good in a year, or you absolutely wont make it. Sorry to be an ass and burst the bubble, for all the players who still try very hard and haven't made it after a year, go find something else to do. It doesn't mean your silly in the head it just means you dont have the natural skill set, be it patience, logic, ethic or heart.

so... should we give up?

if u havent made it after a year of actually trying, then give up and treat poker like a hobby.

what if i wanna be a 25nl -50nl pro?

On July 28 2011 01:59 DvoBoardRider wrote: what if i wanna be a 25nl -50nl pro?

stop being an OXYmoron

LOL

guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands

that is true... that is why i stopped trying a year ago... i am happy here at small stakes. still good money for me.

... stopped using hem/hud... posting hands at forums and just play the small stakes games cos i enjoy it.

On July 28 2011 02:07 Daut wrote: guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands

what have u done lately daut?

nice try at going after bb/100, why dont you try my bb/hour??

also unprovoked personal attacks from you daut, very classy.

just another thought, i doubt you could even get my winrate on stars playing 8 tables let alone 24, your just a tourney lucksack.

ooops



User was warned for this post.

Daut:"OOOO NO YOU DI'INT"

yes daut, yes i did.

p.s awaiting wraith of BANHAMMER

User was temp-banned for this post.

You can get 60% rb on most european sites, so rb should be like 25€/hour for 8tabling NL100.. Plus it must be really hard for you to start your sessions with confident attitude and not be like "whatever I will lose anyways". Imo you should just switch sites.

On July 28 2011 02:23 spage wrote: You can get 60% rb on most european sites, so rb should be like 25€/hour for 8tabling NL100.. Plus it must be really hard for you to start your sessions with confident attitude and not be like "whatever I will lose anyways". Imo you should just switch sites.

shut up. let daut and wobbly talk

User was temp-banned for this post.

On July 28 2011 02:12 wobbly_au wrote: Daut:"OOOO NO YOU DI'INT" yes daut, yes i did. p.s awaiting wraith of BANHAMMER

ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE


alternate ending
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well... that's that.

wobbly kinda planted seeds of doubt tho...

wobbly is what happens when chiren80 thinks hes nanonoko

On July 28 2011 02:32 Daut wrote: wobbly is what happens when chiren80 thinks hes nanonoko

but he's doing well right?

who cares. doing well doesnt negate someone elses doing well. people concerned with doing better than other people they have minimal contact with are just faggots

basically what PU said.

wobbly is a really good NL player, better than myself even. but when someone who is probably the ~150th best NL cash game player in the world thinks hes the 10th best and lets everyone know that its really irritating.

anyone can do well at this game with hard work and dedication. often there is something holding someone back (in my case its heart/drive), but if you work hard to overcome whatever shortcomings you may have you can have great success. you can probably have a lot of success without doing that, but to achieve your full potential you have to attack the thing you are weakest at. dont let wobbly troll get in your heads, this is a game worth putting effort into and just because your learning curve is more gradual than others doesnt mean your potential is lower

but i dont have the natural talent.

Wobbly you show that you have become an ass when you started earning money.People don't get less than this in my eyes.
Pooruser and Daut have always been mannered and helpful. This alone makes them 10 times the player you are imo.
I voted for you to be unbanned because I thought you could be able to add something to the LP community, I was so wrong.

i'm pretty sure wobbly is ok in person. this is the internet. it is easy to be an ass online.

edit: and my take on if one 'should give up' is no you shouldn't. if you really want to make it one should do everything he can.

in poker be it playing a ton, posting hands in the forum, analyzing your play in hem or getting coaching. these will improve your game. that is why i like seeing people getting coaching and trying to improve their game. it is inspiring to see other people really try to be good at the game.

some people don't improve overnight but that doesn't mean they have give up the dream.

keep trying, keep playing. even if it takes 10 years, we're not going anywhere are we? just take good care of that roll and everything will be fine.

On July 28 2011 01:57 wobbly_au wrote: if u havent made it after a year of actually trying, then give up and treat poker like a hobby.

Standard wobbly douchy brag.

On July 28 2011 02:07 Daut wrote: guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands

Sudden personal attack.

On July 28 2011 02:15 wobbly_au wrote: also unprovoked personal attacks from you daut, very classy. just another thought, i doubt you could even get my winrate on stars playing 8 tables let alone 24, your just a tourney lucksack.

Comeback with roughly equivalent venom.

On July 28 2011 02:29 PoorUser wrote: ASK AND YOU SHALL RECEIVE

Ban!

Not impressive from anyone imo.

lol look at OP and now look at HH

lol sick bump, i feel ashamed

just another whinepost

but as fayth commented in this blogpost when i made it

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#14

try switching site, might help ur mindset

sometimes even if ur super good it seems u can't win on a given network, don't know why... has to do with being pessimistic or i dunno, just check out on PTR takechip and flipokeher same guy, he just recently quit playing FTP for good, or so he told me ;p

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so i did switch site to various EU sites, and from there i just grew

but i think it mostly was because of coming out of the masstabling-collect-all-the-pokemon-VPP-at-stars-mindset that helped me improve and win more

On July 28 2011 02:07 Daut wrote: guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands

honestly sir. is this what you really think? what do you think your coach, taylor caby would say? same as the quote above?

i have lost respect for you.

edit: i can't believe the micro/small stakes players are not reacting to this. it's those players who mostly support this site. do you guys just take what he said in the ass?

he basically said stop playing cos you'll never make it.

oh wait. i'll prolly get banned. sorry daut. didn't mean it. you don't have to apologize.

On July 28 2011 05:26 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2011 02:07 Daut wrote: guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands honestly sir. is this what you really think? what do you think your coach, taylor caby would say? same as the quote above? i have lost respect for you. edit: i can't believe the micro/small stakes players are not reacting to this. it's those players who mostly support this site. do you guys just take what he said in the ass? he basically said stop playing cos you'll never make it. oh wait. i'll prolly get banned. sorry daut. didn't mean it. you don't have to apologize.

wat?

daut made fun of wobbly for thinking everyone should give up if u didnt get it?

or is it me who senses ghostsarcasm in serious comments?

On July 28 2011 05:26 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2011 02:07 Daut wrote: guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands honestly sir. is this what you really think? what do you think your coach, taylor caby would say? same as the quote above? i have lost respect for you. edit: i can't believe the micro/small stakes players are not reacting to this. it's those players who mostly support this site. do you guys just take what he said in the ass? he basically said stop playing cos you'll never make it. oh wait. i'll prolly get banned. sorry daut. didn't mean it. you don't have to apologize.

i was being sarcastic that youll never reach the level of the great, revered wobbly_au lol. read my post about 5 posts down from that for what i really think

oh ok... stupid me. you have lost and gained my respect in two posts. well done sir! :D

On July 28 2011 05:12 longple wrote: lol sick bump, i feel ashamed just another whinepost but as fayth commented in this blogpost when i made it -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fayth [This user is a quality poster] Canada. Jun 01 2010 17:37. Posts 9016 #14 try switching site, might help ur mindset sometimes even if ur super good it seems u can't win on a given network, don't know why... has to do with being pessimistic or i dunno, just check out on PTR takechip and flipokeher same guy, he just recently quit playing FTP for good, or so he told me ;p ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so i did switch site to various EU sites, and from there i just grew but i think it mostly was because of coming out of the masstabling-collect-all-the-pokemon-VPP-at-stars-mindset that helped me improve and win more

I had this realisation in 2008 lol (switching sites). I was playing on Stars/UB and winning very marginally at nl200 and nl400, then I got a 45% rakeback account on an iPoker skin and bam, won a buttload and got up to 2kNL in 6 months. Nowadays I suck though .

On July 28 2011 05:58 Twisted wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2011 05:12 longple wrote: lol sick bump, i feel ashamed just another whinepost but as fayth commented in this blogpost when i made it -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fayth [This user is a quality poster] Canada. Jun 01 2010 17:37. Posts 9016 #14 try switching site, might help ur mindset sometimes even if ur super good it seems u can't win on a given network, don't know why... has to do with being pessimistic or i dunno, just check out on PTR takechip and flipokeher same guy, he just recently quit playing FTP for good, or so he told me ;p ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- so i did switch site to various EU sites, and from there i just grew but i think it mostly was because of coming out of the masstabling-collect-all-the-pokemon-VPP-at-stars-mindset that helped me improve and win more I had this realisation in 2008 lol (switching sites). I was playing on Stars/UB and winning very marginally at nl200 and nl400, then I got a 45% rakeback account on an iPoker skin and bam, won a buttload and got up to 2kNL in 6 months. Nowadays I suck though .

ya i remember u posted a comment telling me that aswell

ty for that! those comments really made me switch things up

i would'nt quit if i were swedish no matter what, seems you eventually rape poker at some point in your brain development

Boo.. and I just started playing on PokerStars =D

lesson of this thread. SWITCH SITES!

did you hear that whamm???

yeah im at ongame but software is too crappy, prob have to move to c2p then to another site.

wait for bwin/party player merge.

ipoker is good, 45-50% rakeback and rly poor players.. I think you'd crush that site..

On July 28 2011 09:29 leos147 wrote: ipoker is good, 45-50% rakeback and rly poor players.. I think you'd crush that site..

afaik ipoker is considered toughest site atm

On July 28 2011 02:07 Daut wrote: guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands

-_-;;

On July 28 2011 09:41 maryn wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2011 09:29 leos147 wrote: ipoker is good, 45-50% rakeback and rly poor players.. I think you'd crush that site.. afaik ipoker is considered toughest site atm

why? what stakes?

On July 28 2011 09:41 maryn wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2011 09:29 leos147 wrote: ipoker is good, 45-50% rakeback and rly poor players.. I think you'd crush that site.. afaik ipoker is considered toughest site atm

bs

On July 28 2011 09:55 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2011 02:07 Daut wrote: guys no amount of work and dedication will overcome your lack of natural talent. just face it, youll never be 2.3bb/100 winners over 3.5 million hands -_-;;

learn to read Oo

fukn stars is the craziest, toughest shit. ftp close 2nd

Very good bump Daut,

And thanks to you and PU to be yourself, im sur you help alot of people around

and for those of you who think i was being a dick, its only because wobbly is a mega troll asshole to a lot of people on this site. im quite sure if i 24 tabled 2/4-10/20 on stars i wouldnt achieve a 2bb/100 winrate. wobbly is a very very good player and if youve seen some of his hands he comes off as someone who makes good reads and is very confident in his skills (such as checking behind boats and losing to higher boats). but being a mega douche who is full of himself and boasts about his winnings constantly makes him pretty irritable.


im moving to vancouver in 3 weeks, how would you guys rank the following sites in terms of toughness of games at 1/2-3/6 nl and plo?

stars, party, ipoker, merge

are there any others i can play on?

i read 2p2 ftp/ipoker regs thread alot and basically every ftp reg says ipoker nl100-200 is harder and way more aggro

wow just saw this post for the first time, great route you took sir Great Job!

I think there's a serious lack of discipline on the vast majority of people, like they will troll the internet for 5-6 hours and play only 2-3 hours a day (while browsing the internet even, or chatting on skype/msn) and then whine about running bad, not being able to win or improving, etc.

For me and I'm sure 99% of the other hardcore winning grinders it's been nothing but commitment at least on the first couple years, playing basically 24/7 and devoting most of our daily thoughts into the game and improving.

But this doesn't mean that if after 1 year you fail that you don't have what it takes, it's possible but it might also be possible that you are thinking this is way easier than it actually is (unless u luckbox one or two tournaments that is, then it's a walk in the park).

What I'm trying to say is that i'm pretty sure myself, wobbly, and a lot of other grinders dedicated in that couple years what many will never dedicate to poker their whole lives. I mean I even sometimes declined going out with friends/gf because it was friday/saturday night, the juicest time to play. Now it would never occur to me to not go out even if there's a massive fish but I already did my sacrifice.

Btw glad that you made it longple!, and good luck to everyone, there's still plenty of money to be made from poker whether it's NLHE cash games, tournaments, OMAHA or STUD/whatever, don't miss the chance!

On July 28 2011 13:22 maryn wrote: i read on 2p2 ftp/ipoker regs thread alot and basically every ftp reg says ipoker nl100-200 is harder and way more aggro

from what I remember NL200 on stars is pretty tough as well, NL100 on contrast is/was incredibly soft, actually I did play on ipoker a bit those limits not too long ago, I thought basically the same as on stars, NL100 easy, NL200 not so easy

im new on ipoker but nl400 ipoker looks softer than nl400 on 888 ~~

On July 28 2011 13:38 locoo wrote:and good luck to everyone, there's still plenty of money to be made from poker whether it's NLHE cash games, tournaments, OMAHA or STUD/whatever, don't miss the chance!

That, my friends, is a shark talking

lol

yo totally off topic,

locoo, your english is really really good man.

have you been taking classes? i feel like it wasn't quite as solid in the past but maybe im thinking of someone else.

to original poster. i think its about time u give up. its pretty clear to me that you dont have what it takes. obviously the things people said in this thread are nice to hear and inspiring but.. u just wont make it man. Good luck in life though hope something else works out for you.

On July 28 2011 17:31 DooMeR wrote: to original poster. i think its about time u give up. its pretty clear to me that you dont have what it takes. obviously the things people said in this thread are nice to hear and inspiring but.. u just wont make it man. Good luck in life though hope something else works out for you.

this.

yep. voted

Poll: Should longple give up?
(Vote): yes obviously its not working out

On July 28 2011 16:04 nolan wrote: yo totally off topic, locoo, your english is really really good man. have you been taking classes? i feel like it wasn't quite as solid in the past but maybe im thinking of someone else.

Thanks, maybe you are confusing me with bongky?, maybe not

omg to have the partypoker days back would be l33t ;-)

ain't happening man, sorry

On July 28 2011 13:07 Daut wrote: and for those of you who think i was being a dick, its only because wobbly is a mega troll asshole to a lot of people on this site. im quite sure if i 24 tabled 2/4-10/20 on stars i wouldnt achieve a 2bb/100 winrate. wobbly is a very very good player and if youve seen some of his hands he comes off as someone who makes good reads and is very confident in his skills (such as checking behind boats and losing to higher boats). but being a mega douche who is full of himself and boasts about his winnings constantly makes him pretty irritable. im moving to vancouver in 3 weeks, how would you guys rank the following sites in terms of toughness of games at 1/2-3/6 nl and plo? stars, party, ipoker, merge are there any others i can play on?

1/2 fr on stars, the games a prettyy soft. I've been table selecting quite abit lately and i'd say that theres usually atleast one ~100bb fish at each of my ~15 tables at peak times. + theres alot of bad regs.. dunno about the other sites

On July 28 2011 13:07 Daut wrote: and for those of you who think i was being a dick, its only because wobbly is a mega troll asshole to a lot of people on this site. im quite sure if i 24 tabled 2/4-10/20 on stars i wouldnt achieve a 2bb/100 winrate. wobbly is a very very good player and if youve seen some of his hands he comes off as someone who makes good reads and is very confident in his skills (such as checking behind boats and losing to higher boats). but being a mega douche who is full of himself and boasts about his winnings constantly makes him pretty irritable. im moving to vancouver in 3 weeks, how would you guys rank the following sites in terms of toughness of games at 1/2-3/6 nl and plo? stars, party, ipoker, merge are there any others i can play on?

dont play 2/4 on stars, its plagued with 25/50 regs who pretend to be 2/4 regs

1/2 is pretty soft tho

lol wobbly

also stars is by far the toughest site for NL, I dont know about plo but probably that too -.-

On July 29 2011 01:04 Stroggoz wrote: Show nested quote + On July 28 2011 13:07 Daut wrote: and for those of you who think i was being a dick, its only because wobbly is a mega troll asshole to a lot of people on this site. im quite sure if i 24 tabled 2/4-10/20 on stars i wouldnt achieve a 2bb/100 winrate. wobbly is a very very good player and if youve seen some of his hands he comes off as someone who makes good reads and is very confident in his skills (such as checking behind boats and losing to higher boats). but being a mega douche who is full of himself and boasts about his winnings constantly makes him pretty irritable. im moving to vancouver in 3 weeks, how would you guys rank the following sites in terms of toughness of games at 1/2-3/6 nl and plo? stars, party, ipoker, merge are there any others i can play on? dont play 2/4 on stars, its plagued with 25/50 regs who pretend to be 2/4 regs 1/2 is pretty soft tho

thats quite an exageration, what 25/50 moves down to 400nl? makes no sense

On July 29 2011 04:42 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2011 01:04 Stroggoz wrote:   On July 28 2011 13:07 Daut wrote: and for those of you who think i was being a dick, its only because wobbly is a mega troll asshole to a lot of people on this site. im quite sure if i 24 tabled 2/4-10/20 on stars i wouldnt achieve a 2bb/100 winrate. wobbly is a very very good player and if youve seen some of his hands he comes off as someone who makes good reads and is very confident in his skills (such as checking behind boats and losing to higher boats). but being a mega douche who is full of himself and boasts about his winnings constantly makes him pretty irritable. im moving to vancouver in 3 weeks, how would you guys rank the following sites in terms of toughness of games at 1/2-3/6 nl and plo? stars, party, ipoker, merge are there any others i can play on? dont play 2/4 on stars, its plagued with 25/50 regs who pretend to be 2/4 regs 1/2 is pretty soft tho thats quite an exageration, what 25/50 moves down to 400nl? makes no sense

hmm maybe our definition of reg differs, but i consider a reg to be someone that beats the limit.

it makes sense to drop down if there are no higher games running at the time and your a 20 tabler. Can still make good profit playing 4 tables of 5/10, 6 of 3/6 and the rest of 2/4

yesterday i was sitting at a 2/4 table with 2 25/50 regs and a former 100/200 reg (wobbly, andrewboccia and mr zahmat). I didn't spot the fish

On July 28 2011 13:38 locoo wrote: Btw glad that you made it longple!, and good luck to everyone, there's still plenty of money to be made from poker whether it's NLHE cash games, tournaments, OMAHA or STUD/whatever, don't miss the chance!

so there is hope

As far as iPoker goes, I used to play there a lot. Nowadays whenever I open the client, I see like 6 tables on NL400/NL600 SH without any fish. On better hours there are probably more tables but I doubt that there's gonna be a lot of fish on the website.

Figures when every reg out there can get 50-65% rakeback on iPoker, it should be the toughest network. Networks like Boss, Merge, Entraction are probably softest. I don't think Stars is all that tough nowadays compared to more European oriented websites.

well I'm glad I could be of help haha

i dont think it matters where you play, I just hate fast tables - being rushed for 6s per 'descion = fk you im not playing at your site. The moment stars introduced fast tables, i never played a hand of poker there again. From my experience - most sites are 90% the same in terms of level of competetion

On July 29 2011 12:33 TalentedTom wrote: i dont think it matters where you play, I just hate fast tables - being rushed for 6s per 'descion = fk you im not playing at your site. The moment stars introduced fast tables, i never played a hand of poker there again. From my experience - most sites are 90% the same in terms of level of competetion

You do know they have normal tables too, right? I don't play the fast tables either, I filtered them out

On July 29 2011 04:42 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 29 2011 01:04 Stroggoz wrote:   On July 28 2011 13:07 Daut wrote: and for those of you who think i was being a dick, its only because wobbly is a mega troll asshole to a lot of people on this site. im quite sure if i 24 tabled 2/4-10/20 on stars i wouldnt achieve a 2bb/100 winrate. wobbly is a very very good player and if youve seen some of his hands he comes off as someone who makes good reads and is very confident in his skills (such as checking behind boats and losing to higher boats). but being a mega douche who is full of himself and boasts about his winnings constantly makes him pretty irritable. im moving to vancouver in 3 weeks, how would you guys rank the following sites in terms of toughness of games at 1/2-3/6 nl and plo? stars, party, ipoker, merge are there any others i can play on? dont play 2/4 on stars, its plagued with 25/50 regs who pretend to be 2/4 regs 1/2 is pretty soft tho thats quite an exageration, what 25/50 moves down to 400nl? makes no sense

Stroggoz had Mr Zahmat in his HH recently at 2/4. I was shocked :O