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TheHuHu3   United States. Sep 26 2013 01:22. Posts 5544 | | |
| | On September 23 2013 15:13 Stim_Abuser wrote:
Rehashing the talk of how weak hanks death was.
Andrea's death was how a death of a character should be done. That shit was heart breaking and just absolutely brutal. |
ROFL, are you serious about Andrea? Apparently you are the only one who gave a shit about Andrea whilst everyone else thought she was cancerous AIDS. That shit was hilarious and so badly executed. Contrived dramatic score, cliche last words, and a fade-out of a gunshot. The best thing about Breaking Bad is that no one is safe. Shit just happens. The way last week's episode started with a dead Gomez on the ground, and Hank getting shot in the head after knowing there was no way out is just how Breaking Bad does things. Shit is dramatic just the way it is and the audience still cares for these characters without the need for cliched additions.
Take Dexter's series finale for example. The entire Debra-in-the-hospital scene was LOLWUT. Queue the dramatic music, Dexter docks his boat on the hospital's dock (WTF? HUH?), he takes Debra off life support, wheels her corpse out in his fucking brown henley and cargo pants, loads her up on his docked boat and rides out into the middle of nowhere and dumps her fucking body in the ocean. He boats off into the MS Paint hurricane in the horizon and becomes a lumberjack. That shit sucked. Bad. Fuck Dexter. |
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Daut   United States. Sep 26 2013 01:59. Posts 8955 | | |
| | On September 25 2013 22:27 thewh00sel wrote:
There's a reason Gus didn't have a family. I hope Walt activates his super brain to wipe the slate clean and becomes the new Gus again. I think he wants to reclaim his empire now that he has nothing left. Unfortunately the cancer resurfacing makes it more likely that he dies at the end. Oh well, hope over logic. (Which btw seems to be walts new outlook on life since his decisions have been the opposite of logical as of late.) |
the reason gus didnt have a family is because he was probably gay. they heavily implied he was in love with his first meth cook that was killed by the cartel in mexico: he put him through college and was deeply deeply hurt passed the point of caring for a friend when he was killed and his desire for revenge was great. he is constantly inviting men over for dinner and cooking for them. gail gives off some gay vibes as well who gus was close with. |
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KoeBawlt   Canada. Sep 27 2013 00:58. Posts 378 | | |
| | On September 26 2013 00:59 Daut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 22:27 thewh00sel wrote:
There's a reason Gus didn't have a family. I hope Walt activates his super brain to wipe the slate clean and becomes the new Gus again. I think he wants to reclaim his empire now that he has nothing left. Unfortunately the cancer resurfacing makes it more likely that he dies at the end. Oh well, hope over logic. (Which btw seems to be walts new outlook on life since his decisions have been the opposite of logical as of late.) |
the reason gus didnt have a family is because he was probably gay. they heavily implied he was in love with his first meth cook that was killed by the cartel in mexico: he put him through college and was deeply deeply hurt passed the point of caring for a friend when he was killed and his desire for revenge was great. he is constantly inviting men over for dinner and cooking for them. gail gives off some gay vibes as well who gus was close with.
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Gus has kids: he says "I love this dish but I never get to make it. The kids won't eat it." (S3E11 43:20). I don't know how they implied he was in love this with first cook. I had the impression that they were childhood friends, and Gus' shock from his murder makes sense given this and the surprise from the betrayal from the Cartel leader. Gus' attack on the Cartel makes sense as a strategic move given the tensions between them at that time. That it was revenge made it sweeter
-e- I just remembered that this episode where they dine together is right before half measures and full measures. Their dining together and Gus' remark "We work together, why not break bread together" is in stark contrast to the turn that their relationship takes over the next two episodes. As far as I know it is never explicitly shown that Gus invited another man back to his home for dinner. |
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Daut   United States. Sep 27 2013 01:52. Posts 8955 | | |
| | On September 26 2013 23:58 KoeBawlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2013 00:59 Daut wrote:
| | On September 25 2013 22:27 thewh00sel wrote:
There's a reason Gus didn't have a family. I hope Walt activates his super brain to wipe the slate clean and becomes the new Gus again. I think he wants to reclaim his empire now that he has nothing left. Unfortunately the cancer resurfacing makes it more likely that he dies at the end. Oh well, hope over logic. (Which btw seems to be walts new outlook on life since his decisions have been the opposite of logical as of late.) |
the reason gus didnt have a family is because he was probably gay. they heavily implied he was in love with his first meth cook that was killed by the cartel in mexico: he put him through college and was deeply deeply hurt passed the point of caring for a friend when he was killed and his desire for revenge was great. he is constantly inviting men over for dinner and cooking for them. gail gives off some gay vibes as well who gus was close with.
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Gus has kids: he says "I love this dish but I never get to make it. The kids won't eat it." (S3E11 43:20). I don't know how they implied he was in love this with first cook. I had the impression that they were childhood friends, and Gus' shock from his murder makes sense given this and the surprise from the betrayal from the Cartel leader. Gus' attack on the Cartel makes sense as a strategic move given the tensions between them at that time. That it was revenge made it sweeter
-e- I just remembered that this episode where they dine together is right before half measures and full measures. Their dining together and Gus' remark "We work together, why not break bread together" is in stark contrast to the turn that their relationship takes over the next two episodes. As far as I know it is never explicitly shown that Gus invited another man back to his home for dinner. |
from the breaking bad wiki:
| | Some viewers - including Esposito himself - have interpreted the deep relationship between Gus and Max to be possibly homosexual.[1] Series creator Vince Gilligan has chosen to leave the relationship ambiguous, but has said that if you were to infer this about their relationship, you "wouldn't be wrong." |
even the actor who played gus fring thought it was implied. i think that was the vibe he tried to give off during that scene. i remember thinking at the time it was weird we never see him with a woman, he cooks for men and then the reaction he had to his friends death in juxtaposition to his demeanor in the rest of the series came off as feelings for a person stronger than even a family member.
| | Just going into what motivated Gus, did you think the relationship with Max [whom we saw in a flashback to Gus' youth] was just a friendship or something more? When you were approaching that particular episode, which was so poignant and so powerful, did you ever think about what the nature of that relationship with Max was?
I sure did. I think I went beyond just the surface of the idea that is thrown out, that they could be lovers. That certainly is a possibility. I wanted to cultivate the caring nature of a man who was coming up with someone who was a dear, dear, beloved friend, and that to me deepens it over anything that could be sexual. It was a deeper relationship. I loved the fact that it's never really pointed to one way or the other, that the audience has to make up their own mind. To me, that is much more important to have and that's why if it were just a lover, I don't think that the hate would be as deep, or the revenge would be so poignant.
I think that in a deeper sense, it was a friendship, relationship, possibly lover relationship that some people may not understand. That is why it resounds so powerfully when he is taken away. The cruelty that had been inflicted on Gus - we had to see it and I think in those moments, that's when you really start to go, "Wow, why do I like this guy, why am I rooting for this guy?" Well, because he is a real human being. |
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julep   Australia. Sep 27 2013 02:31. Posts 1274 | | |
daut, i love how into the show you are |
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Daut   United States. Sep 27 2013 03:06. Posts 8955 | | |
| | On September 27 2013 01:31 julep wrote:
daut, i love how into the show you are |
well last month i was real bored and rewatched all 5 seasons in about 15 days. so im a lot fresher on everything and more obsessed at the moment than anyone |
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PplusAD   Germany. Sep 27 2013 05:00. Posts 7182 | | |
Damn i am so excited for the last episode... cant remember being this excited for anything on TV for a long time.
Last time probably was when i was a young teenager and BVB fan during the 1997 finals of Championsleague vs Juventus Turin.
I feel my body physically reacting with adrenaline when i just think about how awesome the last episode will be |
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k4ir0s   Canada. Sep 29 2013 19:56. Posts 3483 | | |
sucks having to wait for the torrent
first world problems ;( |
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f1shcake   United States. Sep 29 2013 20:30. Posts 287 | | |
trying to find a good live stream. Anyone? |
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Loco   Canada. Sep 29 2013 21:32. Posts 21022 | | |
Anybody else is a bit bothered that they included the flashforward with the ricin and the house? I don't like the way it made us feel so comfortable about Walt not getting caught in the last few eps. I see no reason to have put it in. I'm thinking primarily about when he rang the DEA in the previous ep; there was no suspense at all because we knew something would change his mind. |
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TheHuHu3   United States. Sep 29 2013 22:27. Posts 5544 | | |
| | On September 29 2013 20:32 Loco wrote:
Anybody else is a bit bothered that they included the flashforward with the ricin and the house? I don't like the way it made us feel so comfortable about Walt not getting caught in the last few eps. I see no reason to have put it in. I'm thinking primarily about when he rang the DEA in the previous ep; there was no suspense at all because we knew something would change his mind. |
SPOILERS BELOW.
Hell no. This episode just wrapped everything in a box and it was fucking great. Everything just made sense to me. One scene in particular where I thought it was lazy writing but was proven wrong was the hitman scene at those two rich bitch's house. I was thinking, "Why don't the hitmen just kill all three of them and take the $9M because they can surely see that stack of money....?" I was pleasantly surprised and relieved it was Badger and skinny meth guy and laughed at the two laser pointers.
There were no loose ends, ambiguity, or cheap cop outs to this finale. The meth dealers are dead, Lydia is dead, his family will get all the money, no more blue meth to be manufactured... Just perfect. I felt Walt had to die in this finale for this series to live up to its caliber and the show delivered. The two best parts was when Jesse got to fucking kill Todd and Walt shooting Jack in the head mid-sentence, ROFL. Just so glorious and well-deserved. |
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whamm!   Albania. Sep 29 2013 23:02. Posts 11625 | | |
damn i read that aff;lkdsfksafj;kaksd |
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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Sep 30 2013 00:44. Posts 1687 | | |
| | On September 29 2013 22:02 whamm! wrote:
damn i read that aff;lkdsfksafj;kaksd |
LOL IT SAYS SPOILERS BELOW!
Awesome episode awesome ending 11/10 |
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