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traxamillion   United States. Sep 17 2013 14:35. Posts 10468 | | |
Crazy how they go from making you hate Jesse to showing Todd enslave him and you get back on his side. The music does a lot to affect your emotions on this show.
I think Walt strapping up on his 52nd birthday in the flash forward is potentially his last move; saving Jesse.
What is the significance of the airplane crash and the one eyed teddy bear? Is that something I missed in the past or a scene from the future? I remember the pink bear itself but not really what it was all about.
What was the point of the flashback in the beginning of episode 14 (this one)? Was it just to show Walt and Jesse at that spot for the first time- some full circle symbollism thing or is there more to it than that |
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taco   Iceland. Sep 17 2013 15:15. Posts 1793 | | |
| | On September 16 2013 18:49 Baalim wrote:
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On September 16 2013 15:55 Daut wrote:
i didnt think skyler needed to be protected. aside from the tape he made and anything jesse said to hank/gomie/marie theres no evidence whatsoever about him cooking meth. and absolutely none linking skyler. not to mention he talks about things he doesnt need to talk about like hank being dead. no reason to confess to that. just seemed like it wasnt a necessary conversation to have, i didnt think she needed to be exonerated from anything |
what about laundring millions in the car-wash... Skyle was in deep shit and now Walt has given her all that she needs to claim innocence
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traxamillion   United States. Sep 17 2013 15:34. Posts 10468 | | |
Yea most of the money she didn't actually launder it was too much so she just started stuffing cash in a storage unit |
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TheHuHu3   United States. Sep 17 2013 16:26. Posts 5544 | | |
| | On September 17 2013 13:35 traxamillion wrote:
Crazy how they go from making you hate Jesse to showing Todd enslave him and you get back on his side. The music does a lot to affect your emotions on this show.
I think Walt strapping up on his 52nd birthday in the flash forward is potentially his last move; saving Jesse.
What is the significance of the airplane crash and the one eyed teddy bear? Is that something I missed in the past or a scene from the future? I remember the pink bear itself but not really what it was all about.
What was the point of the flashback in the beginning of episode 14 (this one)? Was it just to show Walt and Jesse at that spot for the first time- some full circle symbollism thing or is there more to it than that |
The point of the flashback this episode was to show how far Walt has come from being a regular dad to a master manipulator. You can see him practicing his lie to Skyler right before he calls her, and when he actually calls her the lie doesn't sound believable at all (at least, from our view point). |
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devon06atX   Canada. Sep 17 2013 17:17. Posts 5462 | | |
Daut is typically bang-on with his understanding of shows I think, I'm surprised he didn't see the obviousness of what Walt was trying to do with that phone call.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Sep 17 2013 17:48. Posts 4080 | | |
| | On September 17 2013 16:17 devon06atX wrote:
Daut is typically bang-on with his understanding of shows I think, I'm surprised he didn't see the obviousness of what Walt was trying to do with that phone call.
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Dunno if it's just me, but I feel like to truely enjoy a show sometimes you just need to let the show fool you and make you follow its twists and turns like its intended to so that you get the full entertainment effect. Rather, trying to break the show down to fully understand everything allows more room for disappointment in the end since you've made it so that the bar of standards is now set much higher to you as a viewer |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 17 2013 22:22. Posts 9634 | | |
I would get that if you had said it about almost any other series out there, but not Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad's fundamentals are based on the psychology of its characters, if you dont understand that part of the series its no more than a decent-avarage tv filler. Also if you dont try to fully understand stuff many of the shit that Walt does would be completely unlogical |
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Daut   United States. Sep 17 2013 22:52. Posts 8955 | | |
| | On September 17 2013 16:17 devon06atX wrote:
Daut is typically bang-on with his understanding of shows I think, I'm surprised he didn't see the obviousness of what Walt was trying to do with that phone call.
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it just felt like she had nothing to worry about. thought all the heat was on walt and didnt even consider her having any evidence against her. also didnt make sense why he would talk about hank. but i think hes just such a megalomaniac that he loves the idea of how powerful he is and wants to take credit for it and is only crying because it means he has to give up his family forever
in fact, his phone call may actually goes as far as possibly hurting skyler. walt talks about how she would say it was wrong and didnt agree with it but it showed that she clearly knew what he was doing the entire time. she could have pleaded ignorance otherwise and claimed she believed his blackjack story but she no longer has that option. although there is probably some law about not incriminating your spouse so maybe looking the other way is a viable option for her |
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Floofy   Canada. Sep 18 2013 00:31. Posts 8708 | | |
am i stupid if when i watched the show i didn't understand at all what that phone call was all about? i just thought Walt went crazy.
Then after reading this thread i rewatched the phone call and it all made sense. |
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whamm!   Albania. Sep 18 2013 00:38. Posts 11625 | | |
this shit's too intense i turn the volume off each time there's a scene i cant bear to watch lol(ive done this over some past seasons as well)
brilliant show. i never do this with any horror movie and ive watched tons |
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Daut   United States. Sep 18 2013 00:45. Posts 8955 | | |
| | On September 17 2013 23:38 whamm! wrote:
this shit's too intense i turn the volume off each time there's a scene i cant bear to watch lol(ive done this over some past seasons as well)
brilliant show. i never do this with any horror movie and ive watched tons |
i would do this too, but i dont even know what im rooting for to happen at this point. i just want awesome shit to go down and since season 5b has started i dont have a preference anymore so im no longer nervous each episode |
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devon06atX   Canada. Sep 18 2013 00:57. Posts 5462 | | |
First and foremost - Walt cherishes his family. He tried to give up all of his money (and likely subsequently go to prison) to save Hank. The guy who is trying to put him away.
He obviously knew the fbi/whatever were listening in. The tone of his voice alone belayed the fact he was speaking 'differently'. When has he ever talked like that? The pained look on his face and the fact he was trying to muffle his sorrow while trying to make the call makes the whole thing pretty obvious he was doing it as a guise.
Even in the house, immediately after getting knifed he was trying to 'keep the unit together' if you know what I mean.
Skyler was fucked since her sister knew about her involvement, as did junior, and there's no way she could talk her way out of it to the DEA. Knowing of crime(s) but not participating doesn't exempt you from prosecution. Walt made it sound on the phone as if he bullied and intimidated her into submission with regard to his schemes. That would exempt her.
What I'm wondering now is why the house is run-down as shit, and wtf does he go back to the house for the ricin capsule? Even if the house and carwash were seized, they would be sold.. wouldn't they? Not left to rot? Pure speculation here.
Someone mentioned it already, don't remember who, but maybe he is going back to fight the nazi's. But how would he know or think Jesse is still alive?
Man, that was one dark twisted episode. Loved it. Have been hating Jesse for a while, his incessant whining and shit was really annoying, but man. That was rough.
Am totally watching this show start to finish in a couple years. Did it with the wire, and it was pretty damn awesome. Only 23098343098 more months until game of thrones is back up. |
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Raidan   United States. Sep 18 2013 06:41. Posts 344 | | |
| | On September 17 2013 23:57 devon06atX wrote:
First and foremost - Walt cherishes his family. He tried to give up all of his money (and likely subsequently go to prison) to save Hank. The guy who is trying to put him away.
He obviously knew the fbi/whatever were listening in. The tone of his voice alone belayed the fact he was speaking 'differently'. When has he ever talked like that? The pained look on his face and the fact he was trying to muffle his sorrow while trying to make the call makes the whole thing pretty obvious he was doing it as a guise.
Even in the house, immediately after getting knifed he was trying to 'keep the unit together' if you know what I mean.
Skyler was fucked since her sister knew about her involvement, as did junior, and there's no way she could talk her way out of it to the DEA. Knowing of crime(s) but not participating doesn't exempt you from prosecution. Walt made it sound on the phone as if he bullied and intimidated her into submission with regard to his schemes. That would exempt her.
What I'm wondering now is why the house is run-down as shit, and wtf does he go back to the house for the ricin capsule? Even if the house and carwash were seized, they would be sold.. wouldn't they? Not left to rot? Pure speculation here.
Someone mentioned it already, don't remember who, but maybe he is going back to fight the nazi's. But how would he know or think Jesse is still alive?
Man, that was one dark twisted episode. Loved it. Have been hating Jesse for a while, his incessant whining and shit was really annoying, but man. That was rough.
Am totally watching this show start to finish in a couple years. Did it with the wire, and it was pretty damn awesome. Only 23098343098 more months until game of thrones is back up. |
blue meth will probably start appearing once again, so walt will know jesse is still alive and cooking for them. |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Sep 18 2013 09:29. Posts 9634 | | |
i predict a mexican shootout between jessie and walt in the last ep
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locoo   Peru. Sep 18 2013 16:03. Posts 4566 | | |
| | On September 17 2013 23:57 devon06atX wrote:
Someone mentioned it already, don't remember who, but maybe he is going back to fight the nazi's. But how would he know or think Jesse is still alive?
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List of people who have crossed Walter White. Definetly revenge on the nazis.

He doesn't care about Jesse at this point, and I believe he would kill Jesse himself if he had the chance. |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Sep 18 2013 21:10. Posts 4742 | | |
Things have been looking more and more bright, before Blizzard just kept getting more and more shit, most movies and series shit as well, but got, breaking bad, hearthstone, so much + + + lately.
And the D3 changes looks really promising as well xD |
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Jelle   Belgium. Sep 19 2013 09:53. Posts 3476 | | |
| | On September 17 2013 23:31 Floofy wrote:
am i stupid if when i watched the show i didn't understand at all what that phone call was all about? i just thought Walt went crazy.
Then after reading this thread i rewatched the phone call and it all made sense. |
+1 everything went over my head too until i read the thread |
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Daut   United States. Sep 23 2013 02:00. Posts 8955 | | |
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