Breaking bad s5 - Page 19

Rehashing the talk of how weak hanks death was.

Andrea's death was how a death of a character should be done. That shit was heart breaking and just absolutely brutal.

On September 23 2013 14:40 Spitfiree wrote: Nah nazis went into greed mode that will definetly be punished, If they had just ran with the 80milly that would make sense

That's not really the Nazi's, that's todd.

The Nazi's are kind of cool aside from being Nazi's. Gave Walt some of his money, let Walt live. It's Todd who's being brutal/crazy.

On September 23 2013 15:13 Stim_Abuser wrote: Rehashing the talk of how weak hanks death was. Andrea's death was how a death of a character should be done. That shit was heart breaking and just absolutely brutal.

Am I the only one who laughed out loud at her death? Specifically because it was so brutal, for some reason it had the reverse effect.

On September 23 2013 15:07 dogmeat wrote: worst episode ever

if by worst you mean darkest and most bleak then yes. but awesome nonetheless

On September 23 2013 15:19 Loco wrote: Show nested quote + On September 23 2013 15:13 Stim_Abuser wrote: Rehashing the talk of how weak hanks death was. Andrea's death was how a death of a character should be done. That shit was heart breaking and just absolutely brutal. Am I the only one who laughed out loud at her death? Specifically because it was so brutal, for some reason it had the reverse effect.

Defense mechanism to stop you from curling into a ball and crying.

I made this face when it happened

On September 23 2013 15:07 dogmeat wrote: worst episode ever

From : Czech Republic.

No blue, U mad?

I dont really get Andrea's death into the plot by the way....Like okay Jesse tried to escape and they punished him by killing Andrea, but they also lost their edge on him. There is nothing they can do to make him cook for them now. The kid is left an orphan and will get picked up by the government agency and be fairly well protected and he was the only one left that Jesse cares about. And Jesse doesnt really care if he lives or dies at this point, all they did is force him into thinking of a way to destroy them even if it would include suicide... So yeah... shooting her in the leg with a mask on or like stabbing her or some shit like that would make sense, killing her was just meaningless. This was probably the only death in the series that actually upset me a lot too.

Umm, the only reason Jesse went into this downward spiral (second downward spiral) was when he found out Brock was poisoned by Walt. So yeah, he definitely gives a shit and they still have enormous leverage over him. Everything just ties together so fucking well in this show and everything makes sense.

Now, any idea who Walt is going to go after in the finale? Jack or the Grey Matter people?

On September 23 2013 20:12 TheHuHu3 wrote: Umm, the only reason Jesse went into this downward spiral (second downward spiral) was when he found out Brock was poisoned by Walt. So yeah, he definitely gives a shit and they still have enormous leverage over him. Everything just ties together so fucking well in this show and everything makes sense. Now, any idea who Walt is going to go after in the finale? Jack or the Grey Matter people?

Jack obv, for killing Hank and taking his money, but i was also thinking that he may do something against Grey Matter, but that would be too much or rushed for just 1 episode.

The grey matter guys were just to show that not only has all the work Walt put in been meaningless but he's actively destroyed his life accomplishments beforehand. Combined with Breakfast refusing any help from him it means the entirety of Walts life has been making ~70 million dollars for a bunch of nazi gang members. There is just no way that combines to mean anything other than he goes off and kills said nazi's to me. Maaaybe he loses to said nazi's.

On September 23 2013 23:00 TheLink wrote: The grey matter guys were just to show that not only has all the work Walt put in been meaningless but he's actively destroyed his life accomplishments beforehand. Combined with Breakfast refusing any help from him it means the entirety of Walts life has been making ~70 million dollars for a bunch of nazi gang members. There is just no way that combines to mean anything other than he goes off and kills said nazi's to me. Maaaybe he loses to said nazi's.

this. every single aspect of his life and everyone he cared about's life has gotten significantly worse due to walt breaking bad. jesse may have been in prison on his own, but instead hes in captivity with a group of people who will kill him the moment hes no longer needed. the only people jesse cared about are dead because of walt. (jane and andrea) hank is dead, his son hates him, his daughter is fatherless, his wife is facing criminal charges, hes on the run from the police and his cancer is even worse than before. its ruined his entire life.

now all he has motivating him is to get revenge on a group of people that have actually helped him more than hurt him. sure jack and the nazis stole 70 million from walt, but consider it this way: they let him keep 10 million when they didnt have to. they kept walt out of prison not once but twice: once when hitting the 10 guys in prison simultaneously and the 2nd by saving him from hank and gomie. they let him and his family walk away unharmed, they destroyed evidence of the tape that hank filmed of jesse. really these guys are awful human beings who did tons of bad but to walt they have actually been helpful.

its pretty obvious in the last episode almost every "bad" character gets got. lydia, todd, jack+crew and walt are all going down. the only question is whether walt dies of cancer after reconciling with jesse or walt dies by jesse's hand. also possible that jesse shoots walt and reconciles with him in his dying moments and forgives him for what hes done.

Daut thats an interesting take on the nazis and true. Had walt not mentioned his money (and maybe also hinging on if hank didn't call marie or if skylar had "called marie's bluff" because walt wasn't actually in custody) the Nazi's would not have jacked him and I think things would be much more copasetic because what would walt actually have to be mad about? Once walt cooled down and realized that Hank had to be killed just as much if not more than everyone they had killed before for the same reasons he would not be able to logically hold that against them. He would either be off with his family or at least have his legacy buried and ready to somehow someday pass on.

As is however Walt got gaffled for 70 million and i suppose for Walt that is enough. He may have also truly wanted to trade himself for Hank but that was impossible given Hank and Gomie saw the Nazis. Walt might give himself up but the Nazis wont. Just because the Nazis had to kill Hank to save themselves doesn't mean Walt will forgive them the murder because it was a logical act. All he has left is to seek vengeance for the things he has lost and the Nazis stealing those money barrels and killing hank is the best place to direct that so he has quickly forgotten the good they have done him.

Lumberjack Walt incoming

you heard it here first.

i kind of think that the things that everyone expects to happen (like killing the gray matter people) wont happen because there will be a twist/cleaverness to the story

On September 25 2013 08:23 julep wrote: i kind of think that the things that everyone expects to happen (like killing the gray matter people) wont happen because there will be a twist/cleaverness to the story

one of the reasons i dont expect that to happen is time constraints. in the last episode he has to make contact with his family, fight jack's people, exonerate his wife again, standoff with jesse and die. i really dont think theres time for more than a few moments worth of time spent on gray matter. maybe he releases a video saying his connection to them and all his important contributions which would really fuck them publicly, but cant picture more than that. also dont think he kills them just for disassociating themselves from him

On September 25 2013 08:23 julep wrote: i kind of think that the things that everyone expects to happen (like killing the gray matter people) wont happen because there will be a twist/cleaverness to the story

I think the vast majority of people don't think walt is going to kill the gray matter people. I personally think that idea is ridiculous. I'd be very surprised if you ever heard of those former co-partners again.

If you had have said that he's not going to kill the nazis due to a twist, than you might have something. But no, I definitely think he is. Who knows, this show is nuts.

All gray matter had to do with this is spark Walt to quit being a pussy and go out with a BIG bang. They hurt his ego on TV, and hes going to show them. Not by killing them, but showing them he isn't done yet. He's much more concerned with killing Jack anyway.

Personally i think jack and todd have been awesome to Walt.

* cleans up his mess with mikes guys
* doesnt go after him for being a future threat to their new meth biz
* walt knows a lot about what theyve done already and could rat
* they come running when walt asks for backup
* they realize walts bro in law is a head dea fucking agent and he didnt tell
* walt has a shitton of money and if they just kill him right there its for the best
* leave a barrel just coz hes been a cool guy to his nephew?!?

Fuck walt. Im rooting for jack to survive this. Nazi gonna nazi wtf u gonna expect dealing with them

There's a reason Gus didn't have a family. I hope Walt activates his super brain to wipe the slate clean and becomes the new Gus again. I think he wants to reclaim his empire now that he has nothing left. Unfortunately the cancer resurfacing makes it more likely that he dies at the end. Oh well, hope over logic. (Which btw seems to be walts new outlook on life since his decisions have been the opposite of logical as of late.)

Reclaim his empire, become the new Gus? Gus was the main sponsor of the police and noone had a slight clue he is the largest drug importer in the state, had a legit buisiness on top of it, perfect logistics. While Walt is all over the news as a teacher gone methdruglord. Normally Walt's only option is to hide or go to some other country, however that would leave his family destroyed and he obv wont do that.
Tbh Jesse is in his current state because of his own stupidity. Yeah Walt manipulated him some but overall he managed to make a dumb choice after a dumb choice. Before the beginning of this season I was pretty sure he d end up overdosing or shooting himself in the head, guess not.
I wonder if the ricin is a main thing to be used in last ep, I kind of dont see how he can use it, unless on himself. I ll go with a real longshot but Id say he s doing some possible suicide revenge mission on the nazis where best case scenario police shows up, he poisons himself so they are forced to put him in a hospital leaving him a slight chance of escape afterwards.