qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 15 2012 06:29. Posts 14026
Yup, Its a 16 minute youtube about wanking and internet porn
Cliffs:
- Dopamine spikes like a bitch when rubbing one out
- Rewards circuit completely trashed by constant access to filth
- Brain thinks you're the ultimate alpha male banging everything that moves
- Loss of boners due to brain wanting to see midget fisting orgy instead of a normal irl girl.
- Cant even do control group studies because everyone is looking at porn online.
They say if you tell people about your goal, youre more likely to achieve it, so ill just let it be known that im going to break up with my hand and go for the neuro-chemical rebirth.
Heres hoping for more motivation, less anxiety and clearer skin.
In before no one else wanks just bang 10/10 hotties everyday.
Last edit: 30/05/2012 04:33
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Stroggoz New Zealand. May 15 2012 06:42. Posts 5296
interesting,,,
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
Did this for a week , makes u really active . but not rlly possible to maintain ;o
And u kinda think about havin sex with anything with boobs & legs .
Many bb-ers do it , after 7 days of no ejaculation . If u ejaculate on the 7th day you'll get an increase in testosteron.
bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 15 2012 07:49. Posts 8648
On May 15 2012 05:29 byrnesam wrote:
Cliffs:
- Dopamine spikes like a bitch when rubbing one out
- Rewards circuit completely trashed by constant access to filth
- Brain thinks you're the ultimate alpha male banging everything that moves
- Loss of boners due to brain wanting to see midget fisting orgy instead of a normal irl girl.
- Cant even do control group studies because everyone is looking at porn online.
dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium
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Silver_nz New Zealand. May 15 2012 08:28. Posts 5647
Bsams' hand: "baby...no, no! Is breaking up truly nesscary? can we still be friends...? " + Show Spoiler +
... friends with benefits maybe *handwink* "
Btw, I think this mean you give up the easy rewards right. So can still fap, just less frequently. And when you do, you have to use 'the power of imagination'
Good on ya man, fight the battle within.
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Silver_nz New Zealand. May 15 2012 08:56. Posts 5647
Known about this for a while and I've def been affected by it negatively. No issues now however. Anyone struggling with it can pm me
For anyone else interested here's some more vids about it: + Show Spoiler +
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
Last edit: 15/05/2012 10:33
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NotSorry United States. May 15 2012 11:08. Posts 2603
I can't do it, after 24hours of no sex and/or masturbation I get extremely aggressive and aggravated, by 3days my balls literally feel like they are going to burst, so fucking painful.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
On May 15 2012 10:08 NotSorry wrote:
I can't do it, after 24hours of no sex and/or masturbation I get extremely aggressive and aggravated, by 3days my balls literally feel like they are going to burst, so fucking painful.
U don't get blue balls from not jerking off severel days .
If u do it means u shouldn't watch porn / b around a woman ur sexually attracted too .
Blue balls is the sickest thing a girl can give you and insane pain T_T
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auffenpuffer Finland. May 15 2012 12:34. Posts 1429
I can't do it, after 24hours of no sex and/or masturbation I get extremely aggressive and aggravated, by 3days my balls literally feel like they are going to burst, so fucking painful.
The point is not that you should stop masturbating or having sex, the point is that you ought to stop watching internet porn.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 15 2012 13:12. Posts 8648
On May 15 2012 10:08 NotSorry wrote:
I can't do it, after 24hours of no sex and/or masturbation I get extremely aggressive and aggravated, by 3days my balls literally feel like they are going to burst, so fucking painful.
it might be a brain reaction to withdrawal rather than the response to not ejaculating.. who knows
On May 15 2012 10:08 NotSorry wrote:
I can't do it, after 24hours of no sex and/or masturbation I get extremely aggressive and aggravated, by 3days my balls literally feel like they are going to burst, so fucking painful.
it might be a brain reaction to withdrawal rather than the response to not ejaculating.. who knows
His testicles might know.
sorry for shitty english.
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milkman United States. May 15 2012 19:43. Posts 5719
yea this could be a problem... ive been jerkin it to grimm for the last 3 months..
Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally.
On May 16 2012 01:19 mnj wrote:
get outa here spets, you are like heroin to a junkie
LMFAO
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
Dont quite get it. Could someone explain to me what is this guy talking about ? All i got is that everytime you visit an online porn site your dopamine levels are going through the roof cause of the multiple videos you could watch with insane amounts of hot babes which gives us an unrealistic idea about ourselves making us believe we r the alpha male, which at some points leads to dissatisfaction and our dopamine levels go @ the bottom and loss of boner even from ze hot babes just cause they r not interesting anymore. And the only way of avoiding this is by not handshaking your buddy so frequently and def not in front of inet porns .... Is that it? Its the first TED video i dont quite understand damn. Also if all of this is true the famale population will be in a horrific trouble in a decade or two :D . Also isnt the dopamine what makes us concentrate and motivates us, but fapping so often is kind of like a drug since the drugs have the same effect - massive dopamine spikes until at some point you need hardcore amounts of the drug to sustain the levels of dopamine you think you require to function properly. So in fact fapping to online porn is actually a psychological disease ? If thats so ... damn
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palak United States. May 16 2012 12:37. Posts 4601
Fapping to online porn isnt a disease, but can lead to one. Same as doing heroin isnt a disease, but can lead to one.
dont tap the glass...im about ready to take a fucking hammer to the aquarium
On May 16 2012 01:54 capaneo wrote:
I know a bunch of dudes in a Madrasah in Pakistan that can serve as his control group. + Show Spoiler +
Insert a sentence with the smart use of the word "blow" here
UEUEUEUEUEUEUEEEE UUU UEEEEE
Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 18 2012 07:47. Posts 14026
hey wankers
day 4
no fap
no pron
dreamt twice about breaking the no fap and posting in this thread
dreamt once about sexing a friends asian waifu
then couldnt get back to sleep
no fap
no pron
dreamt twice about breaking the no fap and posting in this thread
dreamt once about sexing a friends asian waifu
then couldnt get back to sleep
th-thanks brain
in before
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 18 2012 08:26. Posts 14026
come at me bro, like a eunuch right now.
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Silver_nz New Zealand. May 18 2012 10:20. Posts 5647
i don't fully understand, we supposed to stop the porn, or stop the wanking, they can't have both, wtf thats just greedy
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n0rthf4ce United States. May 18 2012 12:38. Posts 8119
On May 18 2012 10:54 Stat.Quo wrote:
i don't fully understand, we supposed to stop the porn, or stop the wanking, they can't have both, wtf thats just greedy
On May 18 2012 10:54 Stat.Quo wrote:
i don't fully understand, we supposed to stop the porn, or stop the wanking, they can't have both, wtf thats just greedy
Well doesn't porn generally lead to a fap session? Never really watched a porn with out the intention of fapping......maybe they want you to wank with only using imagination.
i think that's the point though, pictures like these would have given a 12 year old me a raging, concrete hard boner. i literally have no response to this.
i have also made a conscious effort to not fap as well since watching the video, but wonder if i can truly last 4-5 months. i also question the validity of his statements as well.
checking facebook, drinking sodas, eating cheesecake all of these things also have pure dopamine responses without counter-balancing neurotransmitters like serotonin/oxytocin. it's going to be tough to revert and go through a chemical rebirth with so many activities in modern life constantly triggering dopamine.
on top of no fapping, i've also made a conscious effort to check fb/emails/lp once in the morning as well.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 18 2012 16:46. Posts 8648
This is one of the few TED videos that didn't convince me at all of what they found, the stadistics or their theories, seemed like a bunch of crap to be honest and plenty of shots in the dark.
bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte
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Svenman87 United States. May 18 2012 21:48. Posts 4636
On May 18 2012 20:45 locoo wrote:
This is one of the few TED videos that didn't convince me at all of what they found, the stadistics or their theories, seemed like a bunch of crap to be honest and plenty of shots in the dark.
Really? I actually think the science of it is very trivial.
If you fap all the time to different girls doing different stuff in different porn, then it's harder for you to get an erection!
DUUUUH!
In US everyone is happy as long as all the prices are rising. Unless its crude oil - Marc Faber
Oh... well I don't do it like that, I always wait for the erection to happen naturally before looking for something to enhance the experience. So, erection --> sex or erection --> sexystuff and NOT porn --> erection
Reading this makes me feel "normal" or unnormal i guess never liked unrealistic porn/if u can tell the girl dosnt like it, thats just fucked up imo.. Aka 95% of all none amateur porn.
basically only watch amateur and are very picky with what to watch. Sometimes watch just randomness nice bj's if i feel semilaazy cuz thats always hot if the girl is hot and sucks good ^^ unless guy is like fat and have some ugly as fuck penis
Fine to fap imo so long as you're not escalating (fapping more than normal for you, fapping more than once a day, watching dirtier and dirtier porn.) If you are escalating try to give yourself a reset by not fapping for a while and let your natural sensitivity come back. If you can get a 'no contact' boner on softcore or just your imagination you're probably still fine, if that's hard for you probably space your faps a bit further apart.
Last edit: 19/05/2012 09:12
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dogmeat Czech Republic. May 19 2012 09:16. Posts 6374
On May 19 2012 08:09 Fudyann wrote:
Fine to fap imo so long as you're not escalating (fapping more than normal for you, fapping more than once a day, watching dirtier and dirtier porn.) If you are escalating try to give yourself a reset by not fapping for a while and let your natural sensitivity come back. If you can get a 'no contact' boner on softcore or just your imagination you're probably still fine, if that's hard for you probably space your faps a bit further apart.
obv u dont know nothing about testosterone lvl increase u can achieve by fapping/having sex more
Obviously if you don't fap for a very long time your testosterone can come down but for most people spacing their faps 3-7 days apart is enough to give them back their sensitivity.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. May 19 2012 14:00. Posts 6374
i m talking about beating off 10 times a day and becoming superhero
anyway its only problem if u dont have regular sex coz ur body forgets the diffence, fapping 5times a day + having normal sex cant hurt
On May 19 2012 02:19 locoo wrote:
Oh... well I don't do it like that, I always wait for the erection to happen naturally before looking for something to enhance the experience. So, erection --> sex or erection --> sexystuff and NOT porn --> erection
this is interesting to me, i have to watch porn, and mentally prepare myself to get a boner now.
i still get one though if im trying to have sex with girls though
On May 19 2012 02:19 locoo wrote:
Oh... well I don't do it like that, I always wait for the erection to happen naturally before looking for something to enhance the experience. So, erection --> sex or erection --> sexystuff and NOT porn --> erection
this is interesting to me, i have to watch porn, and mentally prepare myself to get a boner now.
i still get one though if im trying to have sex with girls though
How often do you ejaculate?
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brambolius Netherlands. May 19 2012 15:57. Posts 1708
On May 19 2012 02:19 locoo wrote:
Oh... well I don't do it like that, I always wait for the erection to happen naturally before looking for something to enhance the experience. So, erection --> sex or erection --> sexystuff and NOT porn --> erection
this is interesting to me, i have to watch porn, and mentally prepare myself to get a boner now.
i still get one though if im trying to have sex with girls though
How often do you ejaculate?
once a day, it's sort of a routine for me now. wake up, fap, shower, get on with my day.
but i'm sort of split on this issue. the ted talk wasn't as scientific as i would have hoped, but considering what they are trying to analyze it is really difficult to get good, statistically relevant data.
i'm sort of wondering if it's not like when you are a child where you love fast food, fries, mcdonalds, sodas, icecream, etc and as you grow up, you kind of are desensitized to it and do old ppl stuff like eat broccoli, spinanch and worse, actually enjoy it.
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 20 2012 00:33. Posts 14026
yeh American adults are really eating broccoli and spinach instead of fast food.
"Men who watch a sexually explicit movie have an average increase of 35% in testosterone, peaking at 60-90 min after the end of the film, but no increase is seen in men who watch sexually neutral films. Men who watch sexually explicit films also report increased optimism and decreased exhaustion.[48] Based on previous research that has found a link between relaxation following sexual arousal and testosterone levels"
"An increase in T levels has also been found to occur in both men and women who have orgasms that are masturbation-induced"
if i remember well, in the TED video it says that you'r more likely to be exhausted and forever alone, if you constantly fap and watch porn...but T levels works contrary to that.
The evil is not masturbation itself but escalating your 'use'. If you find yourself desperately looking for ways to increase your dopamine level you are suffering from the disease explained in the video. If you masturbate frequently, then yes, your brain will adapt to the constant dopamine overload by giving you less pleasure of it, so as to encourage you to find women or otherwise do something useful with your life, but so long as that doesn't cause you into a vicious spiral of doom, you're fine.
im with you byrne, 84 days left till neurochemical rebirth, don't think i'll make it honestly
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hoylemj United States. May 20 2012 21:42. Posts 840
an idea that may be helpful:
a) Download an internet filter such as K9 Web Protection
b) Select to block pornography
c) Set the password to something random (maybe even for the registered email address as well)
This blocks everything including google search results and cuts out a lot of the instantaneous availability of porn.
On May 19 2012 03:28 longple wrote:
Reading this makes me feel "normal" or unnormal i guess never liked unrealistic porn/if u can tell the girl dosnt like it, thats just fucked up imo.. Aka 95% of all none amateur porn.
basically only watch amateur and are very picky with what to watch. Sometimes watch just randomness nice bj's if i feel semilaazy cuz thats always hot if the girl is hot and sucks good ^^ unless guy is like fat and have some ugly as fuck penis
I think thats the point, u already advanced to only getting off on real amateur porn and your picky with your porn also .
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EvilSky Czech Republic. May 21 2012 05:07. Posts 8915
Im in, I do feel I have a problem when I wont even admit to other guys some of the heinous/weird stuff Ive fapped to. But the way I understand it the porn is the problem, you can still jack off but without the constant stimulus that creates those insane 3 hour marathons :O
On May 21 2012 04:07 EvilSky wrote:
Im in, I do feel I have a problem when I wont even admit to other guys some of the heinous/weird stuff Ive fapped to. But the way I understand it the porn is the problem, you can still jack off but without the constant stimulus that creates those insane 3 hour marathons :O
wtf 3 hours of porn? thats is sick. how does that work? I mean, I just dont know how one can fap for 3 hours...
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 21 2012 06:01. Posts 14026
I dont think its a 3 hour continuous fap, but its pretty easy in my experience to spend many hours on porn / porn related shit
reverse image searching to find out who a chick is
trawling through billions and billions of videos
30 tabs on the go at once.
scrolling through endless pages of threads like Boob Discussion
End of day 7, my brain must be tilting hard coz last night my dreams were all about getting turned down by chicks.
I feel good though, cant say i feel any huge improvement yet - maybe it will come later.
My skin is slightly clearer.
I have more time to do stuff in my free time
Tissue consumption is down
Constant semi
I guess telling people your goals really works, i tried for the previous 2 weeks to do no fap and failed miserably on the first day and all consecutive days. I think once youre past the first few days you settle into it and youre more driven to not fap to keep the streak going.
The biggest difference I feel is that i have control over myself and im not furiously wanking on every whim like a randy chimp.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 21 2012 12:47. Posts 8648
On May 21 2012 05:01 byrnesam wrote:
I dont think its a 3 hour continuous fap, but its pretty easy in my experience to spend many hours on porn / porn related shit
so 3 hours doing some kinda of fap/porn related thing seems to be an obvious commom thing here?
I dont think I ever passed over 40 minutes ever, how long can you guys last while fucking a chick?
usually I come after like 20-25 minutes, but I guess you guys can fuck the chicks brains out
almost 6 days for me now, i also quit smoking 3 weeks ago. i figured what the fuck, while im at it...
but basically im on mega lifetilt
Chi Chi get the yeyo!
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 21 2012 14:37. Posts 8648
On May 21 2012 12:10 tutz wrote:
so 3 hours doing some kinda of fap/porn related thing seems to be an obvious commom thing here?
I dont think I ever passed over 40 minutes ever, how long can you guys last while fucking a chick?
usually I come after like 20-25 minutes, but I guess you guys can fuck the chicks brains out
it's very rare i fap that long, just saying it's happened
after some careful thought i think i don't want to go into more detail than that lol
bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 21 2012 15:41. Posts 8648
the funny thing is i don't even watch that much porn, probably <20% of my fapping is done to porn, and the porn i watch is fairly pedestrian, kind of similar to what longple was mentioning earlier.
edit - my birthday is wednesday so i'm thinking i might also try to abstain starting then
gl hf in the meantime -.-
Truck-Crash Life
Last edit: 21/05/2012 15:45
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YoMeR United States. May 21 2012 15:59. Posts 12435
So fapping to mass tabbed porno/scrolling/skipping/mass searching is bad.
just regular fapping to pictures of gf fine? ;(
i immediately cut out pornos after watching that OP vid but no fap too? fucking imba t.t
Although I do agree porno/fapping really effects me negatively when i feel horny after sex later in the day wtf.
Key thing to realize is that it's not about any one thing that you do but how you conduct the whole of your life.
If, in order to stop fapping, you browse LP or do some other random unproductive shit to 'take your mind off it', you've missed the point.
You need to put your brain's motivational systems to work to do actual productive shit. Replacing fapping with other unproductive shit is not going to reset your brain. You're still after cheap dopamine rush.
Replacing fapping with, say, exercise would be a great idea. Or you only fap after having completed some step in your life ambitions. That puts your brain's reward systems to good use. Train your brain to be productive in order to get pleasure, when most of us are training our brains to get the most pleasure when we sit around and waste time.
I haven't been able to get a full on erection since giving up porn.
Appetite however seems to have improved dramatically. I used to hate food/waste time eating; it felt like a chore. Lately I somewhat look forward/enjoy food.
Haven't read about this before, but haven't faped in 2 weeks, and I used to do it daily. My gym capacity is trough the roof, I feel like I'm on steroids. On the other hand, I feel like my sex drive completely died =/. I'm not horny at all if I'm not around hot chicks (which I guess is the actual normal thing?). Also been taking vit D pills.
qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 24 2012 06:04. Posts 14026
day 10, still on cruise control. pretty much once you're past day 3 its a cake walk. I believe there is some 'flatline' period which i may well be in, when you lose all desire temporarily.
Ive actually been running every morning before work this week. Im not sure no fap had anything to do with this, maybe it did. I guess i know i can sit around on the internet like usual and not revert to rubbing one out like ive done pretty much daily for over half my life, then i can probably drag my ass out of bed and go out for a jog. Its the first time since a long time i actually get out of bed earlier than 10 minutes before i have to leave for work.
Ive been doing various "self improvement" things lately:
- no fap/porn
- upgrading my wardrobe from maiden shirts to manly shit.
- losing weight, currently down 10kg since late last year.
- stopped drinking caffeine.
- dont drink as much beer, limited it to weekends and will cut it back to 1 day per week.
Hopefully if i continue with these things i will look like this when i eat a pizza:
instead of this:
On my list of things to do:
- dress better at work
- whiten my teeth
- broaden my irl social network
- obtain new asian waifu
niceblogbro.
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dogmeat Czech Republic. May 24 2012 06:44. Posts 6374
reporting in, had sex 5 times and fapped 6 times yesterday, feels good
my gym capacity is trough the roof, feelin like im on steroids
my skin is gettin cleanr yadayada
srsl this thread is ridiculous
ban baal
Last edit: 24/05/2012 07:27
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 24 2012 07:24. Posts 14026
i maybe missed something but byrne how long do u wanna keep on doing this and why is it good? are you gonna make a routine out of this like 1 fap/ 2 weeks
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dogmeat Czech Republic. May 24 2012 08:19. Posts 6374
hes obv donating sperm
ban baal
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 24 2012 08:36. Posts 14026
I think you're meant to do it for 90 days for total reset, so ill go for that to begin with, and i should probably stop watching porn all together.
the cliffs in OP are why its good/healthy.
you guys are brave
no fap is probably achievable but no fap+no sex is just bananas
I can see how its good tho, I used to have a life mostly organized around sexual pleasure and how to get it and that definitely wasnt healthy :/
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 24 2012 10:14. Posts 8648
If you have gf/fiancee/wife I recomend some sites blocker sofware (for example ProCon Latte Content Filter - free, easy to use). Tell gf/wife to set password on porn sites, and hold this password. Works for me since few months(with some "vacations". All porn sites are blocked. Dotalicious page (I am/was also addicted to dota - seems like most of you are also) also. And I have torrentz.com blocked, to not be able to download porn via torrents.
Watch for some site blockers, in some of them you type to block xxx site and you can't open your gmail account or just google starting page since it has some connections to porn sites (everything has to certain extent some connection with porn).
And, yes, if you don't fap 3times/day you have more energy and time.
"A happier prostate? Some urologists believe they see a relationship between infrequency of ejaculation and cancer of the prostate. The causal argument goes like this: To produce seminal fluid, the prostate and the seminal vesicles take such substances from the blood as zinc, citric acid and potassium, and then concentrate them up to 600 times. Any carcinogens present in the blood likewise would be concentrated. Rather than have concentrated carcinogens hanging around causing trouble, it's better to evict them. A study published by the British Journal of Urology International asserts that men in their 20s can reduce, by a third, their chance of getting prostate cancer by ejaculating more than five times a week. "
if you don't jerk off enough in your 20's you have 30% higher chance of prostate cancer. Going 90 days without it, then trying to find a girl...........
Just don't be a retard and you will be fine
I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time
I get your point highcard, nevertheless is a habit that it was become impossible for me to break.
Currently not dating anyone, so i guess could get my one time
Twitter: @rubbago
Last edit: 24/05/2012 21:15
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Svenman87 United States. May 25 2012 03:06. Posts 4636
Well trolling aside - I guess I'm joining the good fight
T______T
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 25 2012 03:25. Posts 14026
On May 24 2012 17:06 Highcard wrote:
if you don't jerk off enough in your 20's you have 30% higher chance of prostate cancer. Going 90 days without it, then trying to find a girl...........
averaging 2 tugs a day, ive wanked about 4745 times since i turned 20.
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Svenman87 United States. May 25 2012 03:28. Posts 4636
20 minutes in and this cam whooore i know irl text me and told me she is live. da fuck man! going to do something I never do; turn off my computer and lie in bed. T_T
edit - and my cell phone, since its a smart phone and can also go on the internets - Jesus man i don't think I know what I've undertaken.
Last edit: 25/05/2012 03:28
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. May 25 2012 03:32. Posts 15163
Ok guys, starting now I SHALL GO 24 HOURS WITHOUT FAPPING OR CHECKING OUT INTERNET BOOBIES!
Nevermind, I failed, I need to start small
now I SHALL GO 12 HOURS WITHOUT FAPPING OR CHECKING OUT INTERNET BOOBIES!
93% Sure!
Last edit: 25/05/2012 08:33
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LemOn[5thF] Czech Republic. May 25 2012 03:33. Posts 15163
Also, I won't go to this thread because you guys will post boobies in here right away if I know you well.
93% Sure!
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 25 2012 08:17. Posts 14026
On May 25 2012 02:32 LemOn[5thF] wrote:
Ok guys, starting now I SHALL GO 24 HOURS WITHOUT FAPPING OR CHECKING OUT INTERNET BOOBIES!
Nevermind, I failed, I need to start small
now I SHALL GO 12 HOURS WITHOUT FAPPING OR CHECKING OUT INTERNET BOOBIES!
lol GoTuNk badbeated, im laughing but also feelin scared thinking the day it happens to me :S
day 3 is getting over, ive tried to be very bussy and its working, not so much of a problem till now. Even tho i had the weirdest boner while in the middle of the session, and by weirdest i mean hardest. Thank god i was in the college library, so no room to get a fap
Hold plz!
Twitter: @rubbago
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 26 2012 02:49. Posts 14026
On May 25 2012 20:30 GoTuNk wrote:
I don't know the word in english, but ejaculated sleeping, so gross. Took 2 weeks -.-
fwiw on yourbrainonporn it says this doesnt count as a relapse.
1. - Seeking out hyperstimulating material
- You are clicking from website to website or picture to picture trying to find something that turns you on
- You are downloading multiple videos and fast-forwarding to find the 'perfect shot' that really turns you on
- Etc
- Etc
2. - Changes in the brain leading to reduced sensitivity for normal stimuli
3. - Feeling down and stressed since you get less pleasure now or can't get it up
4. - Repeat step 1.
The key harmful masturbation loop is:
1. You masturbate sooner than normal for you.
2. It doesn't feel as good.
3. You get even more desperate for the masturbation high.
4. Repeat step 1.
And the key behavior change you need to make is in step 3: that's your chance to break the pattern. DO NOT respond to that by entering a loop, instead respond to that by resetting yourself and let your brain return to normal sensitivity, by avoiding hyperstimulating material or stimulation entirely.
You can avoid getting into the loop into the first place by trying not to escalate your use. Don't masturbate more than normal for you, don't look for porn with the perfect shot, but get off with a large component of your own imagination (even if you use some porn to help). Hyperstimulation always feels better in the short run, and your brain always catches up by reducing your sensitivity, making 'normal life' miserable.
hey guys,
I also took the challenge, too bad i made it for 4 days only
My symptoms are different than your tho ( i don't have blue balls or any pain) - First 2 days are ez, but starting from 3rd day these thoughts come, they're overwhelming, i only could think of fapping/porn, i couldn't concentrate on ANYTHING ELSE.
I couldn't study, i couldn't work, i was irritated and started being aggressive towards other people because of it. I don't think I would EVER last more than a week with no fap even if someone offered me like a $1mill for this. And on the 4th day when i couldn't resist fapping , i did it like 5 times in that 1 day...
btw. i think it's appropriate thread: can any1 tell me who she is? does she do porn? i don't know how to find anything about her given the info i have.. and i know you guys are experts in this area I put the vid in spoiler, cuz it's a softcore porn (boobies and solo fapping later on, but to identify her you don't even need to watch it, because first 1min is like only face) + Show Spoiler +
hooray day 6
i felt some strong urges a few times; i've noticed them especially when i'm trying to sleep, anyone else get that?
nthm0nkey @ stars
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Svenman87 United States. May 26 2012 17:33. Posts 4636
Day 2 going well xD
Although I'm with my girlfriend for the weekend so whenever I'm with her I don't have any need for porn - soooooo the real test will begin Monday when she is gone.
On May 21 2012 12:10 tutz wrote:
so 3 hours doing some kinda of fap/porn related thing seems to be an obvious commom thing here?
I dont think I ever passed over 40 minutes ever, how long can you guys last while fucking a chick?
usually I come after like 20-25 minutes, but I guess you guys can fuck the chicks brains out
Watched porn since internet, first time I had sex we stopped since she started to get sore after 1 hour 10 or more lol, but my mind was elsewhere, since I got rejected trying to go different hole, and other fun positions I thought were normal.
This looks really awesome, does it count if you just fap once or twice a week without internet? Or is it no fapping whatsoever allowed?
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 26 2012 19:38. Posts 14026
On May 26 2012 07:32 HiyAfOu wrote:
hey guys,
I also took the challenge, too bad i made it for 4 days only
My symptoms are different than your tho ( i don't have blue balls or any pain) - First 2 days are ez, but starting from 3rd day these thoughts come, they're overwhelming, i only could think of fapping/porn, i couldn't concentrate on ANYTHING ELSE.
I couldn't study, i couldn't work, i was irritated and started being aggressive towards other people because of it. I don't think I would EVER last more than a week with no fap even if someone offered me like a $1mill for this. And on the 4th day when i couldn't resist fapping , i did it like 5 times in that 1 day...
It doesnt stay like that for the duration, the first few days all you can think about is how much you wanna bust one out and you just walk around wanting to fuck everything within a 3 mile radius, it settles down quickly after that.
On May 26 2012 16:20 ParadoxPLZ wrote:
hooray day 6
i felt some strong urges a few times; i've noticed them especially when i'm trying to sleep, anyone else get that?
Yeh, im trying to get out of bed asap when i wake up otherwise i just sit there thinking about boning.
On May 21 2012 12:10 tutz wrote:
so 3 hours doing some kinda of fap/porn related thing seems to be an obvious commom thing here?
I dont think I ever passed over 40 minutes ever, how long can you guys last while fucking a chick?
usually I come after like 20-25 minutes, but I guess you guys can fuck the chicks brains out
Watched porn since internet, first time I had sex we stopped since she started to get sore after 1 hour 10 or more lol, but my mind was elsewhere, since I got rejected trying to go different hole, and other fun positions I thought were normal.
This looks really awesome, does it count if you just fap once or twice a week without internet? Or is it no fapping whatsoever allowed?
Some people continue to fap, breaking the cycle of browsing porn and escalating to more extreme porn is the worst cycle. People still fap with their imagination. I think its down to personal preference though.
Im just gonna give it the full reset, for maximum results.
day 4 is over im doing pretty well actually, whenever i had a bad session i felt angry (kind of tilt problem) and the only way that i could calm myself was with porn, today had a really bad day and the 'urge' was almost gone. (and the inverse effect when having a good session, so it was a daily cycle)
Based on what I've read at yourbrainonporn.com, optimally you shouldn't fap at all because it teaches your brain to expect more, and so people experience stronger cravings a couple days or so after fap. If you must fap though focus on the sensation and avoid using imagination since it will activate some vulnerable brain pathways such as giving you more of that porn dopamine, and you'll be giving yourself a harder time in your quest for a brain reboot. Keep in mind though that eventually, when you're healthy (months afterwards), normal sexual fantasies about other people are okay and actually encouraged in some cases.
But yeah, fapping seems to delay the reboot a bit, so if you can figure out a way to not fap at all then it'll probably be easier and faster for you in the long-run. Also, optimally, and this is gonna sound extreme but it's entirely possible, you should avoid having an orgasm if you do have sex, keeping in mind that there are things you can do with your partner that are actually encouraged and beneficial for you, such as trying to enjoy and so teach your brain about the stuff during sex that we're naturally hard-wired to enjoy--kissing touching smelling etc, and you can even arrange an agreement with your partner if you want where you can get your partner off and abstain yourself. It's not the end of the world if you orgasm with your partner while your on your "brain reboot" but there are some downsides to it such as delaying your progress, and increasing your risk of stronger cravings, that you might wanna read up about.
Anyways there's a ton more stuff at yourbrainonporn.com which provides a better explanation of all this.
End of day 6 I'm realizing how useful it is to have stuff to occupy your time with. I experience growing temptation if I'm ever left idle, as the saying goes. Once the temptation sets in it takes a bit of effort to shake it off. I read something useful though on feedtherightwolf.org. basically addicts of all kind experience similar things when their in a state of craving, and one of the common things addicts unconsciously gravitate too is short and fast breathing. A useful technique it recommends and which I've also found helpful whenever I'm in this state of craving is consciously going slow and deep breath, a lot like meditation teaches you. Slow deep breathing is useful when it comes to managing a lot of emotions, since our emotions seem to be intricately tied with our physiology, and I've found the advice works here for resisting porn cravings too.
Oh ok, ty Byrne, and I really like the last part of ^ text.
I'm a devil with the short breaths thingy, really "good" at it, trying to plug leak.
I put up a ss of nature n shit, I bet that helps a lot, a lot of green in the picture, that's good I think.
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EvilSky Czech Republic. May 27 2012 14:54. Posts 8915
In the last few days Ive found myself attracted to a 50 year old woman, checked out a couple 14/15 year olds on the street and today I saw a woman walking a dog and proceeded to think she must be fucking it and how... HELP
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 27 2012 15:19. Posts 8648
lololol
Truck-Crash Life
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Stroggoz New Zealand. May 27 2012 16:20. Posts 5296
On May 27 2012 13:54 EvilSky wrote:
In the last few days Ive found myself attracted to a 50 year old woman, checked out a couple 14/15 year olds on the street and today I saw a woman walking a dog and proceeded to think she must be fucking it and how... HELP
:o thats normal for me except for the dog thing, and i fap at least twice a day.
One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings
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jeffv8x_-_16 Belgium. May 27 2012 17:15. Posts 2835
On May 27 2012 14:19 bigredhoss wrote:
lololol
how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom
Where is the government conspiracy theorist with his ridiculous threads ... forgot his nick. Anyways this must be a government project making all of the males population's subconscious violent turning us into agressive mofos. Dont succumb to it! Dont trust me ?
In the last few days Ive found myself attracted to a 50 year old woman, checked out a couple 14/15 year olds on the street and today I saw a woman walking a dog and proceeded to think she must be fucking it and how... HELP
On May 27 2012 13:54 EvilSky wrote:
In the last few days Ive found myself attracted to a 50 year old woman, checked out a couple 14/15 year olds on the street and today I saw a woman walking a dog and proceeded to think she must be fucking it and how... HELP
man you have to let nature take it's course
this is an educational video that I should probably cross post on the "prisoners dilemma" thread, as a comment on whether morality is a human construct =P
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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EvilSky Czech Republic. May 28 2012 07:30. Posts 8915
Im a week in and Im a bit worried that it might have some negative physical effects besides the dementia I seem to be developing :O
But overall I think this week has been quite productive so Im gonna keep at it.
On May 28 2012 02:03 Spitfiree wrote:
Where is the government conspiracy theorist with his ridiculous threads ... forgot his nick. Anyways this must be a government project making all of the males population's subconscious violent turning us into agressive mofos. Dont succumb to it! Dont trust me ?
In the last few days Ive found myself attracted to a 50 year old woman, checked out a couple 14/15 year olds on the street and today I saw a woman walking a dog and proceeded to think she must be fucking it and how... HELP
//enough
P.S. in before the "No-fapping terorrist group "
LOL
and epic thread :D
if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhAN
Do not push the river, it will flow by itself. - Polish proverb
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Forrest Gump Argentina. May 28 2012 11:09. Posts 1217
half year ago I read about how taoist ppl used a masturbation technique to have an orgasm without ejaculation to save proteins and minerals. I learnt how to do it with fapping, but it seems extremely difficult with normal sex.
ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play?
If you're talking about retrograde ejaculation (contract PC muscle to send semen into the bladder instead of out the penis), that is super unhealthy and you don't save anything, you just piss it out instead.
It may be possible to learn how to orgasm without ejaculating if you can contract your pelvic muscles at 8-13Hz consciously, but definitely not by stupid shit like kegel exercises.
no fap, no sex with gf is the real test! i have a gf but we live like 200 km away from each other so sometimes we dont see each other for a week or so, if i dont fap for a day or two i cant sleep thinking about having sex with her..
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Bigbobm United States. May 28 2012 13:02. Posts 5511
started 15th as well
most of the day is fine, but my dreams are starting to terrify me.
Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket
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Forrest Gump Argentina. May 28 2012 13:10. Posts 1217
You know you did it well if you dont get exhausted, your balls are still full and you can get an erection again faster (and your pee its ok). Females will feel offended if you dont ejaculate, though
On May 28 2012 10:18 Fudyann wrote:
If you're talking about retrograde ejaculation (contract PC muscle to send semen into the bladder instead of out the penis), that is super unhealthy and you don't save anything, you just piss it out instead.
It may be possible to learn how to orgasm without ejaculating if you can contract your pelvic muscles at 8-13Hz consciously, but definitely not by stupid shit like kegel exercises.
ADZ124: why do people put pictures of their child in stars.. its like please help feed my child im a fish i cant play?
ive stopped looking at porn for about 10 days now. didnt fap first week, now have started to using only mental images. also i always had this thing where id use the friction in my pants to get hard before fapping and have moved away from that. i either take my pants off beforehand and sit there like a weirdo naked in my room with a flaccid weiner to start or wait for one to just happen naturally and run with it. there was a few day period where i felt a complete loss of sexual desire but its back now and i get way more boners naturally than i used to i think
i think fapping is good for you, but porn is not. if i do use any material it will probably be pictures of girls in bikinis and shit. change my reward system up
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 28 2012 13:25. Posts 8648
On May 28 2012 07:21 rubbago wrote:
to byrnesam
name- starting day
rubbago- may 23
byrnesam - may 15?
rolon may 16
bigredhoss may 23
paradoxPLZ may 19
FullBRing ??
tomson 18
GoTunNk ??
HiyAfOu -- ended after 4 days
Svenman87 may 25
EvilSky --??
um you can remove my name t.t i haven't looked at porn if that means anything though
name- starting day
rubbago- may 23
byrnesam - may 15?
rolon may 16
bigredhoss may 23
paradoxPLZ may 19
FullBRing ??
tomson 18
GoTunNk ??
HiyAfOu -- ended after 4 days
Svenman87 may 25
EvilSky --??
name- starting day
rubbago- may 23
byrnesam - may 15?
rolon may 16
bigredhoss may 23
paradoxPLZ may 19
FullBRing ??
tomson 18
GoTunNk ??
HiyAfOu -- ended after 4 days
Svenman87 may 25
EvilSky --??
um you can remove my name t.t i haven't looked at porn if that means anything though
On May 28 2012 10:28 xicotaSLB wrote:
no fap, no sex with gf is the real test! i have a gf but we live like 200 km away from each other so sometimes we dont see each other for a week or so, if i dont fap for a day or two i cant sleep thinking about having sex with her..
Get a bf instead, then it'll probably be much easier, unless you swing that way too. (Not that there's anything wrong with swinging that way, I know quite a few lp'ers who I suspect swing that way :-)
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 28 2012 16:40. Posts 8648
name- starting day
rubbago- may 23
byrnesam - may 15?
rolon may 16
bigredhoss may 23
paradoxPLZ may 19
FullBRing ??
tomson 18
GoTunNk ??
HiyAfOu -- ended after 4 days
Svenman87 may 25
EvilSky --??
um you can remove my name t.t i haven't looked at porn if that means anything though
how many days did you last?
like 4 and a half i think
Truck-Crash Life
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rANDY United Kingdom. May 28 2012 16:55. Posts 2223
name- starting day
rubbago- may 23
byrnesam - may 15?
rolon may 16
bigredhoss may 23
paradoxPLZ may 19
FullBRing ??
tomson 18
GoTunNk ??
HiyAfOu -- ended after 4 days
Svenman87 may 25
EvilSky --??
um you can remove my name t.t i haven't looked at porn if that means anything though
how many days did you last?
like 4 and a half i think
now that's a big wank
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 28 2012 17:02. Posts 8648
name- starting day
rubbago- may 23
byrnesam - may 15?
rolon may 16
bigredhoss may 23
paradoxPLZ may 19
FullBRing ??
tomson 18
GoTunNk ??
HiyAfOu -- ended after 4 days
Svenman87 may 25
EvilSky --??
um you can remove my name t.t i haven't looked at porn if that means anything though
may 26 game start! (dont list me in op or any other lists tho plz lol)
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 29 2012 08:11. Posts 14026
On May 28 2012 12:02 Bigbobm wrote:
started 15th as well
most of the day is fine, but my dreams are starting to terrify me.
+1
dreamt I was in some hotel or something, made out with the super hot receptionist, thought everything was going great, it was all a set-up, armed guys storm the room and grab me and some other people and hold us down, i scream for help then one of them hits me in the face with a sledge hammer.
last night i actually dreamt i was having a wank infront of my laptop, then i stopped coz im committed to no-fap even in my dreams lol, better luck next time brain.
last night i actually dreamt i was having a wank infront of my laptop, then i stopped coz im committed to no-fap even in my dreams lol, better luck next time brain.
ROLF
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casinocasino Canada. May 29 2012 11:00. Posts 3343
anyone know the effects of fap on your blood pressure/heart?
Casinopasino, this is what comes up if you google it!!
I copy paste:
You have heard wrong and right. First for the penis to erect your heart has to beat faster(arousal stage) to pump in the blood in chambers of the penis. Of course it is a very short process. During masturbation the erection has to be kept till discharge, the activity will keep the heart in very active mode. Once the discharge takes place a healthy heart comes back to normal in couple of minutes.In other words the BP has no direct relationship except that after one is satisfied his state of mind relaxes reducing the BP. Provided one is not guilty about masturbation if so there may be negative affect.
I discovered nofap earlier this year and gave it a shot, lasted one week. There were some pretty interesting changes but I am not sure if I can handle being that alpha after all these years.
Will give it another shot though.
+-
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Svenman87 United States. May 30 2012 00:36. Posts 4636
Still going strong but Tue real test started yesterday, first day on my own at night since the gf is back home. Def want to look at some tits right about now, posting here instead... T_T fml
Starting yesterday my mind wants to play tricky, when im trying to sleep i start planning what to do the next days, but yesterday my mind wanted to go to the most sweet memories and i was like 'oh yeah when i was dating that girl....' luckily i realized it was a trick becasuse the only thing i was getting was a bonner,, then restart thinking aobut anything else.
till now is harder the no fap deal than want to search for porn
day 7 btw
Fuck sign me up there is definately some truth to it. I went 2-3 months twice before (during summers out of town working with like no personal space) I found it really easy but the reason is their was no internet access. I definately felt the best of my life then although thier were other factors like mass drugs and alcohol (probably also due to no internet)
I noticed last 6 months porn just doesint do much for me and ive also been pretty depressed and my poker work ethic has dropped like 80%
On May 30 2012 01:33 Target-x17 wrote:
Also interesting fact though If I turned into a porn adict it was definately after not having porn for 3 months watch out for da rebound.
After reset your brain returns to normal sensitivity, hyperstimulating material feels super good (for a while) which makes it addictive.
But indulging in that will just numb your brain again, so you'll need another reset.
The best thing to do is to just find a pattern you're comfortable with and stay at that level.
For example, watch only quality, vanilla, female-friendly porn, do not fast forward for a 'perfect shot' that turns you on a lot, just let it run.
Don't scroll through videos until one that that turns you on a lot. Just use it as inspiration for your own imagination.
Set a masturbation schedule that's healthy, between 1-7 times per week. Do not deviate.
Your brain will adapt to that level of stimulation so it feels normal, and when you're supposed to be hyperstimulated, ie hot girl in your bed, your body will work as designed.
As people have mentioned and as mentioned in the video, there is a crossover effect to other things than sex, so for example if you constantly use hyperstimulating porn you may also not be able to be motivated by good career opportunities etc, because your brain by then only responds to hyperstimulating opportunities.
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Svenman87 United States. May 30 2012 03:07. Posts 4636
Keep having nightmares, generally don't remember my dreams, rarely lucid dream. Start off as a lucid dream that turned into a nightmare gah
FullBRing Philippines. May 30 2012 06:21. Posts 581
Im in since may 22. Not so hard till there. I have a Gf though, its not that hard, but i used to fap the next days she left so its a small improvement !
Dont really see any change so far !
Gl
Didn't watch porn for 3 weeks now and it feels great, because I have to use my imagination to get a boner. Going back in time and thinking about the girls I dated/layed in the Last couple years feels great and I think I'm more
active and motivated since I don't watch porn anymore.
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. May 30 2012 07:25. Posts 14026
Removed the list coz it will take too much effort to keep track of what everyone is doing and as someone posted, it was a little bit gay.
People can just update their progress and whatever good/bad points of no fap theyre experiencing.
on day 16 now, apart from the wierd dreams, im feeling really good, probably better than ive ever felt in a long time.
> getting up every morning before work and running
> more social
> feeling happier
Employee of the month; boss said that my effort and focus at work was way better. Definitely think no-fap helped with that and feeling less lethargic and apathetic in general.
Havent really had any strong urges to stop the run, make a conscious effort to not sit at my desk with my hand down my pants even though its the most efficient way for heating your non-mouse hand.
On May 30 2012 06:14 SolarM wrote:
Didn't watch porn for 3 weeks now and it feels great, because I have to use my imagination to get a boner. Going back in time and thinking about the girls I dated/layed in the Last couple years feels great and I think I'm more
active and motivated since I don't watch porn anymore.
Be careful with this. Your description sounds just like watching a new kind of porn. Once the newness wears off, it will feel 'normal' instead of great, and you may feel an urge to look for something that feels 'great'.
"As political and economic freedom diminishes, sexual freedom tends correspondingly to increase. And the dictator will do well to encourage that freedom...it will help to reconcile his subjects to the servitude which is their fate." - Aldous Huxley
Think about it. Seriously.
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Bigbobm United States. May 30 2012 20:58. Posts 5511
couldn't find the specific clip anywhere else, so skip to 1:05 for lazy people
hope its not true
On May 30 2012 06:25 byrnesam wrote:
Removed the list coz it will take too much effort to keep track of what everyone is doing and as someone posted, it was a little bit gay.
People can just update their progress and whatever good/bad points of no fap theyre experiencing.
on day 16 now, apart from the wierd dreams, im feeling really good, probably better than ive ever felt in a long time.
> getting up every morning before work and running
> more social
> feeling happier
Employee of the month; boss said that my effort and focus at work was way better. Definitely think no-fap helped with that and feeling less lethargic and apathetic in general.
Havent really had any strong urges to stop the run, make a conscious effort to not sit at my desk with my hand down my pants even though its the most efficient way for heating your non-mouse hand.
This is the most mid blowing post. ever.
NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future.
On May 30 2012 06:25 byrnesam wrote:
Removed the list coz it will take too much effort to keep track of what everyone is doing and as someone posted, it was a little bit gay.
People can just update their progress and whatever good/bad points of no fap theyre experiencing.
on day 16 now, apart from the wierd dreams, im feeling really good, probably better than ive ever felt in a long time.
> getting up every morning before work and running
> more social
> feeling happier
Employee of the month; boss said that my effort and focus at work was way better. Definitely think no-fap helped with that and feeling less lethargic and apathetic in general.
Havent really had any strong urges to stop the run, make a conscious effort to not sit at my desk with my hand down my pants even though its the most efficient way for heating your non-mouse hand.
i've actually been watching porn and fapping whilst multitabling poker quite a few times. always worried pokerstars might take screenshots but after a while i don't give a shit. maybe time to do some changes in my life.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. May 31 2012 18:29. Posts 8648
starting 11th day.
Wow i feel so proud of myself, could been years since i last more than 4 days without porn/fap
Twitter: @rubbago
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jun 02 2012 05:44. Posts 14026
coming to the end of week 3
had the most bat shit crazy dream last night, there were like 50 people praying and i wrapped a chain round their necks then pulled it tight and choked them all to death, then some guy came in wielding a crystal sword, i got it off him and killed him, then brad pitt walked in reading a passage from a book and i chopped his neck, but it only went half way in and brad just kept reading like he was ready to die.
Then i was at home, and some kid came into the bathroom and i executed him, and i had to stab him like 4 times coz he kept squirming and moving around, then i was eating dinner with my family and they were talking about the future and i was thinking "ill be in jail then for all these murders"
Been wondering that myself, no gf, but can i do boring faps, no porn or other stimulation, just a quick fap for fun? And maybe only think of boring stuff, missionary, i and out, done kinda thing??
On June 02 2012 16:01 Mariuslol wrote:
Been wondering that myself, no gf, but can i do boring faps, no porn or other stimulation, just a quick fap for fun? And maybe only think of boring stuff, missionary, i and out, done kinda thing??
Whatever you decide on, that will become normal for you and your brain will acclimatize.
If you watch porn that REALLY turns you on, at first it will feel really good. If you keep doing that,
then your brain will reduce its sensitivity, so it will feel at best normal. Then when there is a hot girl
in your bed, she may not compare favorably to the level of stimulation your brain is used to, so you
might not even be able to get it up. This is already dysfunctional.
Even worse, there may be a crossover effect into other areas of your life. If your brain becomes used
to a high level of stimulation and has reduced your sensitivity, not just for porn but in general, you
may not be able to enjoy the things you used to enjoy as much, like hanging out with your friends.
You may not be able to respond well to career opportunities since the amount of work for the reward
is not at the same level as the amount of work your brain is used to do to get pleasure.
At the ultimate level of dysfunctional behavior is the guy who does nothing but sit in his room all day
looking desperately for new porn that really turns him on and faps as much as possible, cancelling
appointments with friends because he feels like fapping, etc. This mechanism works not just for sex
but also for gaming addiction and a lot of other 'natural addictions'. And the way out?
Reset yourself by doing a less than normal amount of stimulation, let your brain regain its sensitivity,
and then avoid all hyperstimulating material from then on. So, imagine you've never watched porn in
your life. Fapping without porn would feel good, it wouldn't be boring.
To answer your question: is it OK to do 'boring faps' if I want to reset, you need to answer two questions:
A. What do you want to be a normal level of fapping for you?
B. Is this a lower level of stimulation than your ideal normal level would be?
Edit: added line breaks; automatic wrapping broke because of pictures
Thanks for long post, I'm not quite sure to an answer. But I do know I'm pretty fucked up, I've been watching porn since the first boob was put on the internet lol.
Tried bragging to my dad, I haven't fapped in a few weeks, he just looked at me with this weird look, then changed the subject. Hard to share these days lol.
"At the ultimate level of dysfunctional behavior is the guy who does nothing but sit in his room all day
looking desperately for new porn that really turns him on and faps as much as possible, cancelling
appointments with friends because he feels like fapping, etc. This mechanism works not just for sex
but also for gaming addiction and a lot of other 'natural addictions'. And the way out?"
Gosh, that's description of my older brother. He's 30yrs old, still living with me and parents, dropped his master studies, working in a job that mom got for him, sitting all day long in front of computer (works also in IT), fat as hell ( at least started working out a bit lately). With no life goals, just living from day to day. Ofcourse I hadn't ever seen him fapping, but the sympthoms fits perfectly for this kind of "disease".
On June 03 2012 06:39 Mariuslol wrote:
Tried bragging to my dad, I haven't fapped in a few weeks, he just looked at me with this weird look, then changed the subject. Hard to share these days lol.
lol..
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jun 03 2012 08:52. Posts 14026
coming up to 3 weeks
definitely out of the flatline period now, today has probably been the worst day since the initial few, then again weekends are always more difficult because there are less things to distract you. I probably should have gone running.
Last night i had the sickest dream i was on a boat full of pirates and we were hunting treasure, Orlando Bloom was the captain. It was awesome
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Svenman87 United States. Jun 03 2012 17:20. Posts 4636
Close call today...
Can't believe I'm 10 days in... Seems like it was pretty easy to get from day 3 to 10... But I figure there will be just random ass days that come up.
On June 03 2012 07:52 byrnesam wrote:
Last night i had the sickest dream i was on a boat full of pirates and we were hunting treasure, Orlando Bloom was the captain. It was awesome
lol
Twitter: @rubbago
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jun 06 2012 06:14. Posts 14026
fuck, basically the worst day today since the first few days.
hang in there man, if you cave in you will initiate a fapstorm from everyone that has joined the thread's cause..
PUT DOWN THE GUN AND STEP INTO THE SHOWAR
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jun 06 2012 08:55. Posts 14026
back to day 1.
Everything was great up till week 3, then my brain just went crazy. Last few days have been torture.
This is all speculation, but could how 'hard' it seems be in your head?
I can imagine that, if a part of you craves the reward that fapping would bring, it keeps trying to convince the other parts of you that you should fap, and one of the ways it might do that is by convincing you that after 3 weeks it's really super hard and you're going to cave anyway so might as well. A part of you already expects that after 3 weeks it becomes hard. That feeling might be fake. I don't know of any biological reason why it should get harder over time. Biologically, you can basically last as long as your brain has enough sugar for self control (your brain burns energy for self control), which would mean regular exercise and a healthy diet is all it takes.
Most people fail soon because challengeaccepted.jpg is strong in the beginning but a challenge without any clear deadline loses fun factor after a while so the craving easily overpowers it.
That said, it's probably healthy to fap two to three times a week. You can really only have big self control with an equally big motivation to have it, and the reason not to fap at all isn't strong enough imo. And if you really don't fap at all for an extended period of time you still need some other release for both your semen (nocturnal emissions) and your sexuality ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sublimation_%28psychology%29 )
During the time I didn't fap for a few years I had 'wet dreams' every month which frankly weren't fun at all. I hate waking up with sticky shit on my bed.
The video correctly warns against brain changes from hyperstimulation, so learn to recognize yourself if you are doing that and then you have a good motivation to back off for a while.
15th day, everything is well. Just the last couple day i was so bored that my body was telling me it was time to kill the time fapping. Ended up watching a movie and still strong.
Just lets keep busy and ez game~
Twitter: @rubbago
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asdf2000 United States. Jun 06 2012 21:18. Posts 7690
i may have posted this already but i was at basic training and not fapping for 8.5 weeks was super easy
Grindin so hard, Im smashin pussies left and right.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Jun 06 2012 22:16. Posts 8648
On June 06 2012 20:18 asdf2000 wrote:
i may have posted this already but i was at basic training and not fapping for 8.5 weeks was super easy
tell me, is it lonely up there on your high horse?
Truck-Crash Life
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hoylemj United States. Jun 07 2012 15:33. Posts 840
probably best to wean it gradually (set a schedule, etc, lol) instead of going cold turkey
On June 07 2012 14:33 hoylemj wrote:
probably best to wean it gradually (set a schedule, etc, lol) instead of going cold turkey
this might be true, but for most things it's not, so i have my doubts.
In most situations I know about where you are tying to pick-up a healthy habit or let go of one that isn't healthy (or long-term behavior change in general) you will have a higher chance of success if you build up to your end goal gradually instead of jumping right up to it. Of course it would be a bit different from one person to the next.
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jun 12 2012 02:35. Posts 14026
Im back on the no-fap wagon.
Going to go for a full month.
Currently on day 2
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brambolius Netherlands. Jun 12 2012 12:11. Posts 1708
When not fapping feels like an accomplishment, you have a serious problem lol.
28 days now.. the anxiety is gone, no more want to uck every female around . I'll try to hold as much as i can, but i wont get obsessed with the 90 days
anyone still in the reset challenge?
Twitter: @rubbago
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collegesucks United States. Jun 19 2012 02:26. Posts 5780
i fap to my gf's facebook
jelly?
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RaiNKhAN United States. Jun 19 2012 02:54. Posts 4080
On June 19 2012 01:26 collegesucks wrote:
khan faps to my gf's facebook
jelly?
fyp
The biggest Rockets, Sixers, and Grizzlies fan you will ever meet!
On June 12 2012 11:11 brambolius wrote:
When not fapping feels like an accomplishment, you have a serious problem lol.
#2
Dont know why all you guys are so eager to not fap
you all have ED or what ?
I mean as long as your boner works ... why even think about that stuff.
I personally agree that fapping to all that uber hardcore stuff will harm your happiness (like after a while u wont even get a boner anymore when a super hot girl is fucked in the ass while licking another girls pussy ... thats when i realized i need to quit that hardcore shit)
but nothing wrong to fapping 1-2 times a week to a hot women masturbating video or a nice picture
U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)
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Bigbobm United States. Jun 19 2012 10:15. Posts 5511
Still going. Hasn't been very easy tho. Almost caved when I was having a really bad day then it dawned on me that I was using it to cheer myself up. Didn't want that to turn into a habit
Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket
I love Alizée since the early WoW days, when I learned about this video, because she does the night elf female dance at some point. Also, the lyrics are retardedly dumb.
Trying to reset my mind is difficult!
I think the trick is just to be to busy and to tired to fap. I find that I go like 4-5 days a lot of the time with out fap just to busy with life and then I realize that its been like a week and I am like huh I should fap
Haunted United States. Jul 03 2012 03:10. Posts 86
ill get in on this. i just split with a girlfriend of 6 months (she wanted to have sex 3 and 4 times a day)-
i figure itll make things interesting and honestly i kind of want to get out of sex and dating for a while. 5 years of constant dating, its time to be single and selfish for a little while lol.
I literally just fapped for like 4 hours straight cause I was so fucked up with no sleep and hungover and my ex gf crashed in my bed last night and she only let me kiss her a little and cop a feel or two. I am so fucking out of it right now I feel like I am high as fuck and my boss actually asked me if I was hotboxing my shitty van earlier at work when I went to get files (I dont smoke, though it was kinda rude of her) cause it took me like 3 hours cause I was doing a shitty job and the people who put the files there last time fucked up all the boxes in storage. So now is a good time to go no fap for as long as I can and see if I can't get me some pussy. On a side not, I found this really beautiful girl on POF who is into SC2. I feel like I hit the lotto. Any suggestions on what we should do when I call her to ask her out? PS- her profile also said she was christian or looking for christian, how do I avoid this and/or how do get around the fact that she might possibly be crazy because who the fuck take that crap seriously?
Oh yea, I drank some of this red dawn energy drink stuff. I think its like legal acid/cocaine. Made my stomache hurt and I puked in the hallway at storage lol. And I felt social anxiety all day from the comedown too. Anyone know anything about this shit?
Someone give me a quick run-down of the pros of not fapping. All I've seen is tales of who's lasted so long, and why, and wahh, why I broke. Etc. I'm not about to read 13 pages to hear why not jerking off and depriving yourself of a basic pleasure can possibly be a good thing. Or is LP a breeding-ground for future monks?
On July 06 2012 00:17 SpoR wrote:
I literally just fapped for like 4 hours straight cause I was so fucked up with no sleep and hungover and my ex gf crashed in my bed last night and she only let me kiss her a little and cop a feel or two.
Why do women do this? I do not get it. If a guy is decently horny it takes like zero effort to get him off with a handjob. Sure it's not real sex and not exactly what you want but it takes the edge off the frustration.
so your ex gf got into your bed, u kissed, and then...... did nothing?
why the fuck did she come over to you then anyway?
also u better avoid serious christian girls
1. they are crazy and unfun
2. they wont have sex with you unless you try sick hard or u get married
(there are exceptions tho)
On July 06 2012 00:17 SpoR wrote:
I literally just fapped for like 4 hours straight cause I was so fucked up with no sleep and hungover and my ex gf crashed in my bed last night and she only let me kiss her a little and cop a feel or two.
Why do women do this? I do not get it. If a guy is decently horny it takes like zero effort to get him off with a handjob. Sure it's not real sex and not exactly what you want but it takes the edge off the frustration.
Mental games.
Odds are exactly 50%: it either happens or not
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jul 08 2012 06:20. Posts 14026
day 5 or something i think. I think i started last wednesday.
boner city
On July 06 2012 00:17 SpoR wrote:
I literally just fapped for like 4 hours straight cause I was so fucked up with no sleep and hungover and my ex gf crashed in my bed last night and she only let me kiss her a little and cop a feel or two.
Why do women do this? I do not get it. If a guy is decently horny it takes like zero effort to get him off with a handjob. Sure it's not real sex and not exactly what you want but it takes the edge off the frustration.
Mental games.
Is it seriously just games? Why does any guy tolerate that bullshit then?
On July 06 2012 00:17 SpoR wrote:
I literally just fapped for like 4 hours straight cause I was so fucked up with no sleep and hungover and my ex gf crashed in my bed last night and she only let me kiss her a little and cop a feel or two.
Why do women do this? I do not get it. If a guy is decently horny it takes like zero effort to get him off with a handjob. Sure it's not real sex and not exactly what you want but it takes the edge off the frustration.
Mental games.
Is it seriously just games? Why does any guy tolerate that bullshit then?
Some guys are too nice and some chicks are devious. Bad combo
Poker is fun.
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jul 09 2012 03:17. Posts 14026
On July 08 2012 11:26 Ztvorek wrote:
It's easier to suck it up than to find another GF
this
+ when youre in bed with a girl and horny you arent going to be able to think logically.
On July 06 2012 03:38 dnagardi wrote:
so your ex gf got into your bed, u kissed, and then...... did nothing?
why the fuck did she come over to you then anyway?
also u better avoid serious christian girls
1. they are crazy and unfun
2. they wont have sex with you unless you try sick hard or u get married
(there are exceptions tho)
She has sort of been on the fence a while, I can sense/read it or whatever. The typical guys she dates are probably abusive/addicted greaser idiot alpha male types, which probably stems from her strict and/or unavailable father. She chases the guys who are sort of aloof about relationships and sabotages the ones that aren't creating drama or chaos in her life like she is used to. She probably needs some therapy (most people do and don't even realize it, myself included). She sabotaged our relationship we had, which I was ok with because she seemed like she needed to date more people before she can settle into a relationship based on her past that I know of. But she has sort of been ambivalent and calling me in times of need cause I'm probably the most stable person she knows, I'm sort of a rock (poker pun intended) even when I was unemployed and carless.
So yea, we met up on the 4th at a bar and danced and drank, almost rode the bull ride together etc. Then we went around down town together with friends etc. Around 3 she asked if her and her friend could crash over and I said ok, I was still sorta drunk or on that red dawn crap and shouldn't have been driving but my house wasn't that far and it was late where not many people were out. We grubbed in the kitchen and then we got upstairs (her friend slept in the other empty room) and she stripped out of her pants and sorta got pushing her hips into me with my arm going around her (spooning basically). Then I grabbed her neck/face and just started kissing her and she was into it but I think this other douche was still in her mind and she has this mantra that she has never cheated on anyone and wants to keep it. Even though they are technically not together and I made a huge blog about this topic on TL if it's considered cheating if two people are exclusive blah blah CLICKY. So that was probably why when I started to mount her she said 'we can't' or 'i cant'. Which btw, does anyone know the subtle difference in saying either of those? I'm sure there is one. Like one would refer to her being on her rag, not having a condom, and the other having a bf or something you know?
And yes about the mental games. I'm sure she went home and tried to use this on the other guy like 'oh i sorta kissed some guy' to see how he would react and shit. Women cheat to sabotage or create something in shitty relationships, men cheat because we just like to fuck things.
PS- yea I know she has issues, and mine are that I always go for the stupid and/or crazy girls. Probably because my family is chaotic and my mom is crazy and stupid. But since I am a man, I go for the easiest route when it comes to sex/relationship. We are like lions in the brush just waiting to pounce on that wounded gazelle cause it's easier pray. While on the other hand, women will run like the wind from injured males.
PPS- my friend called me at work on friday and impromptu invited me to go to vegas last weekend and I knew she was probably ready to go for the real thing sometime this weekend. So I called her and texted her to see if she wanted to hang out again but got no response so I left. 1 hour into the drive she asks me out and then tells me I suck cause I cant come. So I got a date with her tonight and I think im golden. Wish me luck
Funny story at the RIO at the end of the WSOP on Saturday night involving poker dealers and drunken poker chicks were I probably coulda got laid if it werent 5am and I was leaving if anyone wants to hear it.
ZERG!
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qwerty67890 New Zealand. Jul 10 2012 06:38. Posts 14026
back up to 1 week, the toughest part is over, been cool coz ive been way busy with loads of shit that i havent even noticed the week has gone by.
Dump that bitch and move on, she'll crawl back to you and you'll probably get some ... If she wants to be treated badly then you should comply, I've learned being kind to fucked up women never pays.
On July 01 2012 08:31 Presti wrote:
im in I would like to stay at least whole July good luck to us I guess
failed couple of times since 1st July
fapped 2days ago and the next day came to the gym and felt social anxiety didnt like that feeling at all, horrible
on the other hand i saw a couple gyming and I bet they fuck everyday cuz the guy had totally zero life in himself
On July 10 2012 06:02 Achoo wrote:
Dump that bitch and move on, she'll crawl back to you and you'll probably get some ... If she wants to be treated badly then you should comply, I've learned being kind to fucked up women never pays.
yea but isnt there a point when u broke up then u have to be nice again or something?
ZERG!
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plasmaPanzy United States. Jul 11 2012 10:41. Posts 1
This thread made me far more cognizant of my masturbation habits and online porn, and now I am jerking it like 2x as much.
On July 11 2012 09:41 plasmaPanzy wrote:
This thread made me far more cognizant of my masturbation habits and online porn, and now I am jerking it like 2x as much.
On July 10 2012 06:02 Achoo wrote:
Dump that bitch and move on, she'll crawl back to you and you'll probably get some ... If she wants to be treated badly then you should comply, I've learned being kind to fucked up women never pays.
yea but isnt there a point when u broke up then u have to be nice again or something?
if u broke up because she's an unstable person than why do you feel obligated to help her? unless she's some sorta close friend/family (unlikely) i see no reason to use the effort/time to help her...and if she's super hot it's even more of a reason to treat her like shit as it'll get you in her pants more often than just pure niceness ;D
unless of course she deals with her shit and becomes a well rounded person capable of sustaining healthy relationships with men.
or u can decide to be "that" guy and help someone out of the kindness of your heart...but then that's exactly what it is..charity and if you aren't a charitable person than leave that up to someone else.
i betcha anything that she woulda tried to fuck u if u had a gf tho
eZ Life.
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Aug 09 2012 13:33. Posts 3093
I tried this, but now i'm fapping like when I was 15. 10x a week, plus I can't sleep if I don't fap. Some times I have to fap twice so I can sleep.
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waga United Kingdom. Aug 09 2012 21:35. Posts 2375
On August 09 2012 20:29 GoTuNk wrote:
I tried this, but now i'm fapping like when I was 15. 10x a week, plus I can't sleep if I don't fap. Some times I have to fap twice so I can sleep.
lol fap twice to be able to sleep is seriously fucked up.
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bigredhoss Cook Islands. Aug 09 2012 21:42. Posts 8648
'to fap or not fap by SimplePickup'
-all-u
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vVjcRSeQsr0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
yeah it feels more productive and i feel more capable
i don't think its the abstaining itself that makes me feel that way but it certainly provides practical advantages that would allow for that, such as more time. also, when your in the process of achieving something difficult i think it gives you a better mindset in general.
i also feel more confident and i have noticed i have less anxiety - personally, i'm convinced this is because of abstaining, but who knows for sure. is everything just a placebo? i doubt it
but don't take my word for it, listen to what chris rock has to say (2:53:00)
#t=10411s
Man, when you stop jerking it to gain some sense of acomplishment or extra drive in life you really should consider raising the bar of your goals a little bit
tldl; chris rock went 40 days without porn (didn't mention not fapping) and said it was pretty amazing because he read a book in that time period ("I finished a book in the time period, that you know, an adult who knows how to read would finish a book" rather than 6 months to finish a book
Well I didn't go 2 days without fapping since I was 15 It's a new experience. Even when I had a gf :D
And I'd do a porn sesh like 1-2x per day every day on average last couple years, the time spent adds up.
Defo higher desire to meet women, even bought new clothes for the first time in like a year not counting stars FPP stuff :D
When I start raging I just go to the gym, been going like every day, it's defo harder to fall asleep now when I don't get my usual fap sesh before bed and didn;t go to the gym during the day.
I go out a lot more too, meet new people, kinda leads to more drinking but gym balances that out
I once went 40 days without fapping. My balls went back into my body. I literally like lost my balls they sucked up into my body. And it ended with me uncontrollably fapping on the bed, no porn, no imagination and me saying out loud, "I just want to be happy". "I just want to be happy" over and over again and the semen flew from my cock to my face. facial..
What is the crime for apostasy?!
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Fujikura United States. Aug 03 2014 16:38. Posts 1795
This is real and it def works. I have gone 60+ days after being super addicted to internet porn. Also, used to be into pickup a fair amount, and can vouch with 100% certainty that it definitely makes a noticeable difference when you don't fap before going out.
and insane pain T_T
Sweden. May 18 2012 08:16. Posts 4472
never liked unrealistic porn/if u can tell the girl dosnt like it, thats just fucked up imo.. Aka 95% of all none amateur porn. 
. All porn sites are blocked. Dotalicious page (I am/was also addicted to dota - seems like most of you are also) also. And I have torrentz.com blocked, to not be able to download porn via torrents.
