Girah - scammer - Page 15

yeah that rider response is thorough but kinda haseebish. lol i dont trust anyone who lived with those two

wcg looking suspect imo

On August 13 2011 04:26 wobbly_au wrote: ok i will, but this isnt far fetched at all. The guy cant beat 200NL then beats 5kNL then cant beat 200nl.. wtF??

Maybe it's completely possible that you just are relatively worse at HU than 6max or FR while with WCG its the other way around and he just doesnt realize he should switch to HU and stop wasting his efforts at 6max.

On August 13 2011 10:03 heppu wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2011 04:26 wobbly_au wrote: ok i will, but this isnt far fetched at all. The guy cant beat 200NL then beats 5kNL then cant beat 200nl.. wtF?? Maybe it's completely possible that you just are relatively worse at HU than 6max or FR while with WCG its the other way around and he just doesnt realize he should switch to HU and stop wasting his efforts at 6max.

lol....1 post, 1 ban?

On August 13 2011 10:03 heppu wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2011 04:26 wobbly_au wrote: ok i will, but this isnt far fetched at all. The guy cant beat 200NL then beats 5kNL then cant beat 200nl.. wtF?? Maybe it's completely possible that you just are relatively worse at HU than 6max or FR while with WCG its the other way around and he just doesnt realize he should switch to HU and stop wasting his efforts at 6max.

buddy if he were so good at HU why isnt he playing HU and winning??

god...

lol @ people saying its far fetched or giving the benefit of the doubt after all the shit thats gone down in the last week or so.

wobbly did you tilt hardcore in these sessions?

sounds to me like you were tilting exactly because he is breakeven midstakes fr player..

On August 13 2011 12:21 ChromaX wrote: wobbly did you tilt hardcore in these sessions? sounds to me like you were tilting exactly because he is breakeven midstakes fr player..

by that argument any breakeven reg can beat me in HU....

He obviously played really really well, and that caused me to tilt and yes him using an id that is associated with being bad may have also adversely affected my results.

playing all those guys hu and winning at much bigger stakes is pretty strange. given jungle was playing at those exact times makes it pretty unlikely it was him, but its possible it was DIH for sure. does anyone know rider/DIH history?

It doesn't necessarily have to be jungleman or DIH, but it really looks like some sicko hu specialist was playing on wcgrider's account.

On August 13 2011 13:37 Daut wrote: playing all those guys hu and winning at much bigger stakes is pretty strange. given jungle was playing at those exact times makes it pretty unlikely it was him, but its possible it was DIH for sure. does anyone know rider/DIH history?

he could just be on two laptops and while no one joined his game on his real id he prob decided to try wcgrider's id
the sess on jungleman id that loops seems very short if im reading correctly

lol that interview is pretty crazy, jungleman just straight up lies in part 1 and then in part 2 goes yeah i lied about a bunch of stuff

pretty crazy to me that he thought no one would see through those lies considering how much attention this is getting

On August 13 2011 11:46 D_Zoo wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2011 10:03 heppu wrote:   On August 13 2011 04:26 wobbly_au wrote: ok i will, but this isnt far fetched at all. The guy cant beat 200NL then beats 5kNL then cant beat 200nl.. wtF?? Maybe it's completely possible that you just are relatively worse at HU than 6max or FR while with WCG its the other way around and he just doesnt realize he should switch to HU and stop wasting his efforts at 6max. lol....1 post, 1 ban?

I hope I cant get just outright banned for just raising a valid point. There are many guys like nanonoko who a great 6max players but who get a lot of hu action since it's their weaker game.

On August 13 2011 14:47 heppu wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2011 11:46 D_Zoo wrote:   On August 13 2011 10:03 heppu wrote:   On August 13 2011 04:26 wobbly_au wrote: ok i will, but this isnt far fetched at all. The guy cant beat 200NL then beats 5kNL then cant beat 200nl.. wtF?? Maybe it's completely possible that you just are relatively worse at HU than 6max or FR while with WCG its the other way around and he just doesnt realize he should switch to HU and stop wasting his efforts at 6max. lol....1 post, 1 ban? I hope I cant get just outright banned for just raising a valid point. There are many guys like nanonoko who a great 6max players but who get a lot of hu action since it's their weaker game.

There are, but there arent many if at all of those that crush in HS HU yet cant beat 200nl FR.

On August 13 2011 14:53 EvilSky wrote: Show nested quote + On August 13 2011 14:47 heppu wrote:   On August 13 2011 11:46 D_Zoo wrote:   On August 13 2011 10:03 heppu wrote:   On August 13 2011 04:26 wobbly_au wrote: ok i will, but this isnt far fetched at all. The guy cant beat 200NL then beats 5kNL then cant beat 200nl.. wtF?? Maybe it's completely possible that you just are relatively worse at HU than 6max or FR while with WCG its the other way around and he just doesnt realize he should switch to HU and stop wasting his efforts at 6max. lol....1 post, 1 ban? I hope I cant get just outright banned for just raising a valid point. There are many guys like nanonoko who a great 6max players but who get a lot of hu action since it's their weaker game. There are, but there arent many if at all of those that crush in HS HU yet cant beat 200nl FR.

On stars i remember Rossa85 who crushed hu but had problems at 6max.

there are lots of examples of hu players that struggle in 6 and 9 handed games. there arent however any examples of struggling 9max players that suddenly switch to and murder HU without purely bumhunting. given that he was playing big stakes on ub HU against xblink i am willing to give him a little benefit of the doubt here, but man given all that has happened surrounding JM/DIH its easy to be skeptical that wobbly/locoo/pu and others were playing wcg rider

On August 13 2011 17:33 Daut wrote: there are lots of examples of hu players that struggle in 6 and 9 handed games. there arent however any examples of struggling 9max players that suddenly switch to and murder HU without purely bumhunting. given that he was playing big stakes on ub HU against xblink i am willing to give him a little benefit of the doubt here, but man given all that has happened surrounding JM/DIH its easy to be skeptical that wobbly/locoo/pu and others were playing wcg rider

QFT. I am obviously not 100% certain but the way it panned out at the time is just way too convenient.

You have to understand it wasnt like a 1 day variance thing, he played me day in day out for 7 days and took 20 buyins, previous to this I've played with him on ring games and the guy is just a flat out dud.

play FR 200nl and lose
do 25nl propbet and lose
switch to 5knl hu and destroy for a couple hundred thousand dollars
buy a house with money instead of continually crushing
move back to 200nl and lose

seems legit noh?

On August 13 2011 17:33 Daut wrote: there are lots of examples of hu players that struggle in 6 and 9 handed games. there arent however any examples of struggling 9max players that suddenly switch to and murder HU without purely bumhunting. given that he was playing big stakes on ub HU against xblink i am willing to give him a little benefit of the doubt here, but man given all that has happened surrounding JM/DIH its easy to be skeptical that wobbly/locoo/pu and others were playing wcg rider

this, and

i played a few 10/20 sessions with rider on FTP back then. i didnt think he was playing super sick or on some elite level but the sample wasnt huge and maybe i was running out who knows. its of course very possible that even if it was really him playing he had jungleman sitting there effectively coaching him/telling him what to do.

not going to really make crazy accusations cause well never know the truth either way, but its pretty likely and something you should expect. if youre going to play a reg heads up you should maybe do some research to find out who he lives with etc.. people are nice but i always assume the worst when its something regarding money.

it may be just me, but everything he provided as 'evidence' seems pretty worthless. his graphs and story just don't really clear up any doubt, and the fact that JM was playing at the same time as him almost makes me feel like it does more harm than good. i read this as him admitting that JM was sitting next to him grinding, or sweating while waiting for someone to give him action.

not really trying to make any conclusion that he's guilty, just making it clear that him posting a bunch of pictures and stories isn't going to remove any doubt from the situation