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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Aug 14 2011 20:32. Posts 6374 | | |
| On August 14 2011 19:17 Balzamon wrote:
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On August 14 2011 18:17 Baal wrote:
There isnt the slightest doubt in my mind it wasnt wcgrider after this shit and self admitted multi qccount for dih and jm you would have to be an idiot to think otherwise.
Dan maybe they dont get their just punishment but we still have to expose them to at least discredit them, and obviously this is big for JM his credibility is 0 and most of his fan base are gone, i mean does any of u are still his fans? Fuck no, fuck jungle and i hope he never sees his millions from ftp again |
afaik he bought back the $6mill he had on ftp for 0.85 from durrrr/galfond
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traxamillion   United States. Aug 14 2011 22:32. Posts 10468 | | |
I wonder how often Jungleman and Urnotindangr would play on each others accounts |
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whamm!   Albania. Aug 14 2011 23:30. Posts 11625 | | |
that wcg rider thing though kinda stinks. all thsoe graphs and other shit just proves jungleman did play on his account lol
wtf improve so much then buy a house with your winnings then move down to 200nl to lose - bullshit
i bet the moment he moved in to his house he started losing again eh |
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nolan   Ireland. Aug 15 2011 00:50. Posts 6205 | | |
| On August 14 2011 18:38 palak wrote:
can someone just actually take up wcgrider's offer of playing battleship style for 10k hands at 25/50? would be awesome to see |
i was thinking he probably made this offer so he can then demand that loco or wobble have to fly to USA to do it, since its pretty likely neither of them would do it. |
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traxamillion   United States. Aug 15 2011 01:00. Posts 10468 | | |
| On August 14 2011 23:50 nolan wrote:
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On August 14 2011 18:38 palak wrote:
can someone just actually take up wcgrider's offer of playing battleship style for 10k hands at 25/50? would be awesome to see |
i was thinking he probably made this offer so he can then demand that loco or wobble have to fly to USA to do it, since its pretty likely neither of them would do it.
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girah style offers (offering to do isildurr and durr challenges knowing it isn't going to be accepted) |
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whamm!   Albania. Aug 15 2011 01:26. Posts 11625 | | |
kinda tough to hurl accusations against an old timer at 2p2 so i dont expect any developments(also impossibly tough to prove). I do think JM, DIH, whomever they lived with during that time got away with a shitton of shady activities(im sure a lot we wont get to know) without consequences, losing their cred is like the best they can ask for imo. |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 15 2011 02:10. Posts 6540 | | |
i'd obv play him hu if there is 0 chance to get scammmedd |
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daysare   Poland. Aug 15 2011 03:38. Posts 670 | | |
well actually even if you met irl to play some internet poker, you wont see his screen. that allows scam to occur as some kind of jungleman might be ghosting and typing some pieces of advise to him. well thats probably a lot more difficult to carry out, but if he's desperate to buy a new house or something.. |
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daysare   Poland. Aug 15 2011 03:41. Posts 670 | | |
what I meant is that scammers are scammers their techniques probably evolve in time, so the best thing to do is just not to play against them imo |
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devon06atX   Canada. Aug 15 2011 04:21. Posts 5458 | | |
| On August 15 2011 00:00 traxamillion wrote:
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On August 14 2011 23:50 nolan wrote:
| On August 14 2011 18:38 palak wrote:
can someone just actually take up wcgrider's offer of playing battleship style for 10k hands at 25/50? would be awesome to see |
i was thinking he probably made this offer so he can then demand that loco or wobble have to fly to USA to do it, since its pretty likely neither of them would do it.
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I disagree completely. I believe cates/DIH combined believe they have a significant edge over durrrr. As is the case from the challenge. This is hypothetical, but c'mon....
Seriously, I think people would be naive now to think it was jungleman himself playing durrrr*. So, yes, I believe it was the scamming shithead haseeb (DIH) writing that, hoping for an acceptance from durrrr, so the two 'real' players could play him.
I'm surprised to see dwan supporting jungleman in a round-about sorta way. Like I said earlier, maybe the other HS players just hide their tracks a bit better.......
Anyways. Yeah, DIH is known to be great at heads-up. So is jungleman. I'm wondering if junglemans epic rise had a lot to do w/ 2 great poker-minds working together. I don't put anything past that haseeb cocksucker. Surprised the NVG community hasn't pounced on the ashman challenge more. Cocksucker has a tendancy to write extremo-long well written posts when he's up to no good....
Either cates is literally as fucking socially retarded as we think to the point of implicating himself w/ more 'minor' stuff, or he has a LOT more to hide. I tend to think intelligent people can analyze situations semi-decently, regardless of their awkwardness. As stated earlier, he claims he doesn't remember what was 'going on' with regard to serious situations, but he remembers exact amounts of dollars/stakes/dates when he did play. I'm surprised Noah didn't jump on that.
From the very start, there's been a common theme. Admit a tiny bit to hide a whole lot more.
edit: *and by jungleman himself playing durrrr, I mean, no outside help/advice/analyzing/whatever |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 15 2011 04:57. Posts 8648 | | |
| On August 15 2011 03:21 devon06atX wrote:
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On August 15 2011 00:00 traxamillion wrote:
| On August 14 2011 23:50 nolan wrote:
| On August 14 2011 18:38 palak wrote:
can someone just actually take up wcgrider's offer of playing battleship style for 10k hands at 25/50? would be awesome to see |
i was thinking he probably made this offer so he can then demand that loco or wobble have to fly to USA to do it, since its pretty likely neither of them would do it.
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girah style offers (offering to do isildurr and durr challenges knowing it isn't going to be accepted) |
I disagree completely. I believe cates/DIH combined believe they have a significant edge over durrrr. As is the case from the challenge. This is hypothetical, but c'mon....
Seriously, I think people would be naive now to think it was jungleman himself playing durrrr*. So, yes, I believe it was the scamming shithead haseeb (DIH) writing that, hoping for an acceptance from durrrr, so the two 'real' players could play him.
I'm surprised to see dwan supporting jungleman in a round-about sorta way. Like I said earlier, maybe the other HS players just hide their tracks a bit better.......
Anyways. Yeah, DIH is known to be great at heads-up. So is jungleman. I'm wondering if junglemans epic rise had a lot to do w/ 2 great poker-minds working together. I don't put anything past that haseeb cocksucker. Surprised the NVG community hasn't pounced on the ashman challenge more. Cocksucker has a tendancy to write extremo-long well written posts when he's up to no good.... |
i've never played high stakes headsup, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't work like that. assuming jungleman is a better HU player than DIH, it would be more profitable for him to play all of the HU by himself than to switch between him and DIH or both playing at the same time.
there's all kinds of possibilities for people account-sharing and ghosting and whatever in this mess, but i think there's probably close to zero chance DIH was playing durrrr for any part of the challenge. |
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devon06atX   Canada. Aug 15 2011 13:13. Posts 5458 | | |
not saying dih was literally playing (clicking the buttons), but i think it's more than likely he had 'help' playing durrr. same way there was essentially 3 people playing isildur when he got spanked for millions.. except i'm guessing dih was literally in the room while they were playing |
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qwerty67890   New Zealand. Aug 15 2011 15:11. Posts 14026 | | |
It would be very unlikely that there was some sort of collusion going on in the Durrrr challenge imo. I think Jungleman has played Durrrr enough in the past to know his edge and keep his edge. Remember that when Jungleman took up the challenge he was really on top of his game and Durrrr had been absent from the online world/HU for a long period of time. It would be suspicious if Jungle had gone from a bum-hunter to challenger, but the dude was killing everyone. If he was going to fully scam/cheat he would have done it long before he was crushing everyone at the nosebleeds.
The problem with the Team CR thing wasnt that they discussed how to beat Isildur, its that they worked out how to beat him by purchasing databases containing 1000's of Isildurs HH's.
You can see where Jungleman would arrive at the conclusions he stated in his audio interview. If you put youself in his shoes and you watch people like Brian Townsend, Zee Justin and many others multi-account and have virtually no consequences for their actions, why wouldnt he think its a grey area or that the financial gains are worth more than the verbal lambasting?
No line was drawn in the sand with the Isildur thing went down and the whole episode was downplayed to protect the FTP Reds pros, so what you get next is a total shit storm where youve got one of the best HU players in the world playing on a -$100k account. |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 15 2011 15:37. Posts 6540 | | |
good post brynesam but it still doesnt excuse what dan did. whats wrong is still wrong and i feel he should return everyone he multi'ed against the money he won. |
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traxamillion   United States. Aug 15 2011 17:10. Posts 10468 | | |
jungleman is some kind of hu god apparently doubt DIH helps him much with poker. Rather jungle paid DIH 100k to be his life coach for 1 year |
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Aug 15 2011 17:23. Posts 7499 | | |
lol at paying DIH to be your life coach.
He is an epic weird nerd. You're super fucked if you think DIH is a good model for how to be socially. |
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Aug 15 2011 18:01. Posts 5882 | | |
| On August 15 2011 16:23 Stim_Abuser wrote:
lol at paying someone to be your life coach. |
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I had a child a year and a half ago and I didn't pay someone to coach me on how to be a dad. That's fucking retarded, and embarrasing.
$100,000 for a 1 year life coach, lol be more social retarded and nerdy please. |
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Nothing wrong with getting coached, I was listening to a Olivier Busquet interview and he said he hired the same coach/agent that deals with celebrities, artists, and athletes. now hes doing some TV hosting for the WSOP.
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Aug 15 2011 19:26. Posts 7499 | | |
| On August 15 2011 17:01 sTrAtO wrote:
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lol at paying someone to be your life coach. |
fyp
I had a child a year and a half ago and I didn't pay someone to coach me on how to be a dad. That's fucking retarded, and embarrasing.
$100,000 for a 1 year life coach, lol be more social retarded and nerdy please.
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There is nothing wrong with trying to improve on an area you're weak on. Sure it's super nerdy but it's commendable to try and improve. Some people are just naturally awkward and unsocial. It can be attributed to a lot of stuff like genes, environment growing up, childhood trauma. Nothing wrong with getting life coached at all.
Getting life coached by this guy is fucking hilarious. No way DiH picks up any girl over a 6 without spending/showing a lot of money.
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VanillaDutch   United States. Aug 15 2011 19:51. Posts 90 | | |
| On August 15 2011 14:37 wobbly_au wrote:
good post brynesam but it still doesnt excuse what dan did. whats wrong is still wrong and i feel he should return everyone he multi'ed against the money he won. |
posts like this are why it doesn't surprise me wcg crushed you.
never knew so many high stakes player don't understand expected value, though i guess that explains the extreme bumhunting people do. |
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