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traxamillion   United States. Aug 13 2011 22:16. Posts 10468 | | |
I feel it in my gut and tbh i think its pretty obvious that jungleman was in some way helping WCGrider in these heads up matches. Jungle was probably just standing behind him telling him what to do |
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traxamillion   United States. Aug 13 2011 22:57. Posts 10468 | | |
also looks like it is confirmed that jungleman played Tyler Smith under the "girah" account and took him for 50k |
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D_Zoo   Canada. Aug 14 2011 00:48. Posts 4013 | | |
| On August 13 2011 19:56 nolan wrote:
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there are lots of examples of hu players that struggle in 6 and 9 handed games. there arent however any examples of struggling 9max players that suddenly switch to and murder HU without purely bumhunting. given that he was playing big stakes on ub HU against xblink i am willing to give him a little benefit of the doubt here, but man given all that has happened surrounding JM/DIH its easy to be skeptical that wobbly/locoo/pu and others were playing wcg rider |
this, and
i played a few 10/20 sessions with rider on FTP back then. i didnt think he was playing super sick or on some elite level but the sample wasnt huge and maybe i was running out who knows. its of course very possible that even if it was really him playing he had jungleman sitting there effectively coaching him/telling him what to do.
not going to really make crazy accusations cause well never know the truth either way, but its pretty likely and something you should expect. if youre going to play a reg heads up you should maybe do some research to find out who he lives with etc.. people are nice but i always assume the worst when its something regarding money.
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i mean if u play a reg HU who u think sucks and he is owning u well......I mean this shit happens all the time...I quit guys all the time who i just assume are either getting sweated by someone whom I wouldn't want to personally play or that I feel are playing way better then I think they are. Just the state of the games really. Same goes for coaching though when I'm sweating people so I can't really say anything. I've done many lessons when WCG has been playing at FR/SH and lets just say I wouldn't expect him to own locoo and wobbly. Obv Steve can power thru anyone |
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locoo   Peru. Aug 14 2011 00:55. Posts 4561 | | |
Just to clarify I played him a lot throughout 3-4 days at 10 20 and 25 50, I won from him the days before. The last day he asked for 6 tbl HU something that I never did before we always just 4 tbled at max, but because I thought he was really bad I agreed, he ended up winning some pots and I ended up tilting a shitload because of run bad + playing 6 tbls, I basically threw money at him the last hands as I literally had no idea sometimes wtf was happening at all the tables. I should've quit very early and was my fault for keep playing. Ended up losing 20 bi aka 40k in like an hour tops. I was real dizzy and confused after I sitout from all the tables.
Never played 6 hu tbls ever since
EDIT: nvm I just went through HEM and I think I didn't win from him before that last day, he won a bit but I still thought he was terrible, and again FWIW I see in my hands vs him that EV wise I should be actually up 7k instead of down 46k to him
EDIT2: apparently I suck at HEM, I should be down 37k to him instead of 46k, I guess he did own me, oh well. |
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devon06atX   Canada. Aug 14 2011 01:13. Posts 5458 | | |
After reading the first interview and listening to the second....
all i can say is, wow. holy fucking wow. jungleman is a lying motherfucker. haseeb is a master con-artist. and girah is just some lucky fuck who made some money off of haseeb's conning ways.
the ridiculousness of cates answers is mind-blowing. i used to big-time cheer for him to beat durrr/whoever. now i'm thinking there was probably that dirty scammer sitting at his side as well as who fucking knows who else.
fuck you jungleman. and dogishead/moloch/3KNOWNaccountnames/unknownaccountnames. and well, gl to your girah. you exposed the most online 'popular' player of the last while to be a big fucking shithead.
next? baal is secretly american? pooruser = mig? wobbly = mutated kangaroo?
seriously, of the three - girah i think is the most innoncent. someone worth over 1.6 million scamming for 40k? LOL. also, been proven there was no uncle scam.. obv. i wondered how many ppl thought of that bullshit.
so yep. those three are fuckers. obv. DIH is the ring-leader, makes me wonder if ashman had a cut of that bet? i always thought that bet was a bit...... intense, spectacular, unbelievable......... unbelievable.
yep. ashman and DIH split that bet I bet.
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devon06atX   Canada. Aug 14 2011 01:20. Posts 5458 | | |
for example: what did you think of this (event) after it happened?
dc: i dunno. i don't remember.
this happened so many fucking times.
YET
when something happens that involves a session on the screen (poker), the guy remembers it instantly. how many hands, what stakes, how he was playing.
but nope. he doesn't remember all the events that unfolded, even though his 'life-coach' was sitting literally in front of him on a chair.
fucking dickhead. 2+2 is going to eat him up. man, they probably could have convicted OJ lol |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 14 2011 01:22. Posts 6540 | | |
its a fucking sad day when you have to fucking google the guy you're playing headsup to know hes not staying with other poker players. Soooo fucking sad. |
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devon06atX   Canada. Aug 14 2011 01:28. Posts 5458 | | |
holy shit. "he played nitty... bending over..... then quit.... slightly sketchy" (might be a bit off on words, he's a mumbly guy)
quoted by daniel cates, playing under a multi-accounted name, purposely negative $100k (achieved by helping win their other con-artists competition.. new roomie!) and playing because of it's obv. public 'horrible playing status'.
haseeb did the tweets making the chip-dump look legit. haseeb is STILL scamming jungleman out of the money owed to ash. haseeb is a dirty fucker.
it's weird, because obv. all these guys are smart people - why do they take the WORST possible course of action when it comes to this whole scenario?
there's only one answer. they're hiding a whole lot more.
further into the rabbit-hole....
EDIT: I still think ash and dogishead did that prop-bet together and scammed DC. bash this theory all you want, but i think it's true.
scum is scum. 95% backed and hacked? lol, dream come true... if you know the hacker. a 'smart' guy like that wouldn't let someone watch teamviewer on their comp... or a trojan left undetected, would they? |
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D_Zoo   Canada. Aug 14 2011 01:39. Posts 4013 | | |
| On August 14 2011 00:22 wobbly_au wrote:
its a fucking sad day when you have to fucking google the guy you're playing headsup to know hes not staying with other poker players. Soooo fucking sad. |
agreed but its been like that for a little while, no?
Only the most egotistical of guys will play on their own these days (HU at high stakes) it seems....I learned that from living with a couple of the best haha...but sadly u gotta respect the few that do it all on their own |
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Daut   United States. Aug 14 2011 01:42. Posts 8955 | | |
| On August 14 2011 00:39 D_Zoo wrote:
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its a fucking sad day when you have to fucking google the guy you're playing headsup to know hes not staying with other poker players. Soooo fucking sad. |
agreed but its been like that for a little while, no?
Only the most egotistical of guys will play on their own these days (HU at high stakes) it seems....I learned that from living with a couple of the best haha...but sadly u gotta respect the few that do it all on their own
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9max and 6max players have been hearing for years how "hu is the only true form of poker cause theres no collusion possible"
yea well when we are 16 tabling we dont got time to consult master jungle for every decision we have |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 14 2011 01:45. Posts 6540 | | |
| On August 14 2011 00:39 D_Zoo wrote:
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On August 14 2011 00:22 wobbly_au wrote:
its a fucking sad day when you have to fucking google the guy you're playing headsup to know hes not staying with other poker players. Soooo fucking sad. |
agreed but its been like that for a little while, no?
Only the most egotistical of guys will play on their own these days (HU at high stakes) it seems....I learned that from living with a couple of the best haha...but sadly u gotta respect the few that do it all on their own
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Before this I have never fucking followed 2p2, and every single hand of HU i've played on my own never MAed and never let somebody play on mine. Fuck all the scums. Will also never play HU again. |
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D_Zoo   Canada. Aug 14 2011 01:48. Posts 4013 | | |
| On August 14 2011 00:45 wobbly_au wrote:
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On August 14 2011 00:39 D_Zoo wrote:
| On August 14 2011 00:22 wobbly_au wrote:
its a fucking sad day when you have to fucking google the guy you're playing headsup to know hes not staying with other poker players. Soooo fucking sad. |
agreed but its been like that for a little while, no?
Only the most egotistical of guys will play on their own these days (HU at high stakes) it seems....I learned that from living with a couple of the best haha...but sadly u gotta respect the few that do it all on their own
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Before this I have never fucking followed 2p2, and every single hand of HU i've played on my own never MAed and never let somebody play on mine. Fuck all the scums. Will also never play HU again. |
yeah I always thought u were clean cuz ur one of th more egotistical guys....again that's a good thing when it comes to non-cheating. |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 14 2011 01:48. Posts 6540 | | |
| On August 14 2011 00:42 Daut wrote:
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On August 14 2011 00:39 D_Zoo wrote:
| On August 14 2011 00:22 wobbly_au wrote:
its a fucking sad day when you have to fucking google the guy you're playing headsup to know hes not staying with other poker players. Soooo fucking sad. |
agreed but its been like that for a little while, no?
Only the most egotistical of guys will play on their own these days (HU at high stakes) it seems....I learned that from living with a couple of the best haha...but sadly u gotta respect the few that do it all on their own
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9max and 6max players have been hearing for years how "hu is the only true form of poker cause theres no collusion possible"
yea well when we are 16 tabling we dont got time to consult master jungle for every decision we have |
word.
FWIW I dont think i've woken up more angry than this in a fucking decade. Feel so cheated and at the same time feel so digusted at the way jungleman thinks, maybe thats what it takes to be an elite poker mind. If so I dont want any of it, the guy is a fucking sped liar. |
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D_Zoo   Canada. Aug 14 2011 01:48. Posts 4013 | | |
i've quit so many matches, cuz i play on so many small shady sites, where i just assumed i was getting fucked haha...im like sick paranoid of this shit and really, I think everyone should be esp with all teh crap going on in the last little while
best part is seeing these guys who are so good at poker fail so hard at life cuz they are still so socially retarded.....like seriously the things said in these interviews are just liek really????and can I apply to be their publicist? |
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 14 2011 01:52. Posts 6540 | | |
| On August 14 2011 00:48 D_Zoo wrote:
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On August 14 2011 00:45 wobbly_au wrote:
| On August 14 2011 00:39 D_Zoo wrote:
| On August 14 2011 00:22 wobbly_au wrote:
its a fucking sad day when you have to fucking google the guy you're playing headsup to know hes not staying with other poker players. Soooo fucking sad. |
agreed but its been like that for a little while, no?
Only the most egotistical of guys will play on their own these days (HU at high stakes) it seems....I learned that from living with a couple of the best haha...but sadly u gotta respect the few that do it all on their own
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Before this I have never fucking followed 2p2, and every single hand of HU i've played on my own never MAed and never let somebody play on mine. Fuck all the scums. Will also never play HU again. |
yeah I always thought u were clean cuz ur one of th more egotistical guys....again that's a good thing when it comes to non-cheating |
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traxamillion   United States. Aug 14 2011 02:00. Posts 10468 | | |
wobbly your rich pay someone to kill the fucker
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 14 2011 02:45. Posts 8648 | | |
lol listening to jungleman interview now, this is hilarious. he pauses and says "hm....let me think (pause pause pause)" for the most straightforward questions, it's like he's balancing his timing tells. |
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 14 2011 02:54. Posts 4742 | | |
I think, if you payed someone to film it, and you could make guest apperance on Cardunners or Leggo, and you'd have someone film a bad ass mother fucking kicking the shit out of first Jose. Then you make a "part two", and you hunt down the other two.
Maybe add in a little multi tabling tricks and a short session afterwards? Pretty sure I'd be the most watched training video ever.
ps, give Wobbly a kangaroo avatar
pps, im still looking for that Jungleman first interview!! |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Aug 14 2011 03:08. Posts 8648 | | |
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devon06atX   Canada. Aug 14 2011 03:30. Posts 5458 | | |
| On August 14 2011 01:00 traxamillion wrote:
wobbly your rich pay someone to kill the fucker |
no wonder DIH wanted this shit to stay quiet. he's the biggest scamming motherfucker of em all.
i dunno bout kill (altho ppl have been killed for much MUCH less), but the asshole deserves some work with a pair of pliers and a small hammer imo
fucking guy. still can't believe the newest 'star' is such a shady cocksucker. truly makes me wonder if the other top pro's partook in similar actions, or if they just hid it better.
and man, noah seems like one investigative guy, props to him. he's quick, thats for sure.
Sayid? where are you at a time like now. |
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