WTF adz in a poker show?

looks like its gonna be hot

wat

lol that guys sucha dick but that video makes him look like a straight baller

Executive producer - Matt Marafioti

On October 28 2008 18:55 p-halt wrote: lol that guys sucha dick but that video makes him look like a straight baller

Oh, rainyday is kimseongchan? Whats with the new lp account lol

retarded

looks pretty ballin

lollllllllllllll

lol should be good

i think this was discussed a while ago and someone said he paid some dudes to make a reality show of him, the show looks he is paris hilton in male version

I was afraid to click play, expecting a high retardation factor, but I was still not prepared.

I think this is awesome move for poker.

On October 28 2008 19:44 AndrewSong wrote: I think this, combined with Phil Hellmuth's incredibly retarded behavior at WSOP this year, is going to make the general public think even less of professional poker players than it already did, if that was somehow possible

FYP

lolol awesome stuff, anyone knows when/how/where its coming out? and any other details?

I remember one time I messaged a friend and told him to check out this cool site called shipitholla.com. I thought it was a clever joke mocking everything about being a poker player. Their player profiles amplified every lame thing that you see typical poker players say. One player even claimed to be a Buddhist while misspelling Buddhism (not typo but a clear misspelling that showed that he had no idea).

My friend pointed out that it wasn't a clever joke but real.

A piece of me died that day.

rofl

this is hilarious

i think this is the pilot he was telling everyone he shot.. sad thing is, he prolly has a good chance of getting a network to pick it up with the way poker is right now.. i had dreams of doing a show with a buncha poker players and stuff, prolly still could, just dont have the cash or people that wanna do it.. main problem is everyone that is rich enough off poker just wants to live their life, not try and ball it up to the max every day, they wanna play more poker and win more money, thats why they are where they are...

oh and adz's show would fail massively because hes a total douche and no one would wanna watch him, and cuz he has no friends and jsut watching him would be boring.

On October 28 2008 19:23 Nazgul wrote: retarded

yeah but both of us will probably watch it

The KRANTZ+FWF+whitelime show is going to be so much better.

i see many, many young people aspiring to be ADZ. if this airs it will get a whole lot of people to glorify douce bag faggotry.

rofl. I never knew ADZ is this stupid.
So basically cause he makes a couple of millions a year now he thinks he is the best thing that happend on earth since canned beer?

This reminds me of small time drug dealers that when the first time they move a couple of kilos here and there they think no one can touch them anymore.

I personally find it also really sad that he thinks his life is of ANY intrest to %90 of people out there.

On October 28 2008 20:50 SakiSaki wrote: The KRANTZ+FWF+whitelime show is going to be so much better.

100%

this should be good for poker no matter how big a douche he is.

on a more serious comment:

This is exactly the reason that I feel REALLY embarrassed when people find out that I play poker.

At the time that the world of poker needs some ambassadors with some charisma and personality to show the world that not all the serious poker players are the traditional drunk, slobby, degenerate looser with a gold watch.

This is how this kid is trying to portrait himself as a poker player.

God, I love playing poker. But some people in this bussiness are just too embaressing that I can not find myself ever being able to coup with them being in the same bussiness.
No offense to people on this site btw.

How is this good for poker Wobbly? Do you really think this kind of stuff is good for poker? How low can you get to make an extra $1? And I belive this stuff does WAY bigger damge than good to poker

--- Nuked ---

adzizzle mah nizzle, good to see hes enjoying his money while he has it

How is this good for poker Wobbly? Do you really think this kind of stuff is good for poker? How low can you get to make an extra $1? And I belive this stuff does WAY bigger damge than good to poker

Well imo pretty good its when people watch him making millions and having fun and think "christ, what a retard, if that guy can make money online sure as hell can I". Tho it remains to be seen how bad he can embarrass poker players and if slight bit of extra action is worth it.

lolz someone fill me in on this adz character?

Well how about someone's family/friends watches this and then they find out you play poker and you feel so embaressed that you have to either quite your social life or stop playing poker?

Many people will be so discourage to start putting money into this game if general public opinion is that everyone who plays this game is an utter trash.

Seriously after watching this I feel so embaressed to say that I play poker. And I feel even more embaressed to say that I have some respect for some of the good poker players out there cause they seem to be intellectual people.

looks like an entourage... poker style.

On October 28 2008 22:58 Night2o1 wrote: lolz someone fill me in on this adz character?

somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he's one of biggest winners on pokerstars. he also happens to be full of himself. hence this show.

i personally like the song

its pretty cool

On October 28 2008 21:37 devon06atX wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2008 19:08 kantoiki wrote: Oh, rainyday is kimseongchan? Whats with the new lp account lol he's embarassed of his chinese origin, read his blog.

he is korean you idiot

On October 28 2008 23:42 roflcopter wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2008 22:58 Night2o1 wrote: lolz someone fill me in on this adz character? somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he's one of biggest winners on pokerstars. he also happens to be full of himself. hence this show.

nah hes a big winner but not in the top 10 i dont think, he used to grind ALOT at the highest stakes.. but not as much these days.... hes always been really strange, he says some amazingly douchey stuff like "i have 3 body guards and they each have 3 guns" and hes serious about it.. hes a winner but never really been considered a great or amazing player, just playd alot.

interesting, ty

Everyday of my life I ball.

Edit: God damnit I wasted a 200 post on mocking this retard.

putting feelings aside. is he a very poker player or just overrated by his mouth?

most people who mock him are pretty retarded imo.. he pretty much has the right to be arrogant coz he is like top .1% of players

On October 29 2008 01:24 wobbly_au wrote: most people who mock him are pretty retarded imo.. he pretty much has the right to be arrogant coz he is like top .1% of players

We're not mocking his poker playing ability we're mocking his personality. Cause it sucks.

I 100% agree with everything capaneo said.

This makes me cringe, I think whoever approved of this show should be fired and publicly humiliated.

lol that vid was quite low quality, and I don't think it will hurt poker. I guess cap must hate a lot of the people here at LP since I remember all the railing going on when bigger names talked about rhino this, rhino that, renting out huge rooms in vegas, etc. The whole point of having money is either making more money with it or blowing it on random stuff, what else are you going to do with $100k's sitting around, not like you have to worry about house/food/clothes. That crappy pilot fills the dreams of many people wanting a more extravagant life and will be lured into poker not pushed away. Yet after all that, I'm a hypocrite because I too hate when people find out I play poker because I feel like I am being lumped into the 'scums/douche-bags', weird.

Who gives a shit about what he does with his life, most of this site would think they are the shit if they made a million dollars. You guys didnt even see the show and assume its bad. how is it bad?? Just because he flash his wealth makes this a bad video... This video isnt bad but because of his reputation you guys already have a negative mindset. You guys craze for rekruls baller gangster stories but hate adz video cuz he is a douche. CAP he is ~20-26 of age? OBV he is going to party alot, ELKY probably balls harder than him. How is he a degernate yet making million? I don't know if this is a bad or good video cuz i never watched it yet.Pretty sure a high percent of ppl on LP would snap trade lives with adz. For the record i do think ADZ is a douche if stuff he said were true. Not everything douchebags does are bad imo.

On October 29 2008 04:11 Highcard wrote: lol that vid was quite low quality, and I don't think it will hurt poker. I guess cap must hate a lot of the people here at LP since I remember all the railing going on when bigger names talked about rhino this, rhino that, renting out huge rooms in vegas, etc. The whole point of having money is either making more money with it or blowing it on random stuff, what else are you going to do with $100k's sitting around, not like you have to worry about house/food/clothes. That crappy pilot fills the dreams of many people wanting a more extravagant life and will be lured into poker not pushed away. Yet after all that, I'm a hypocrite because I too hate when people find out I play poker because I feel like I am being lumped into the 'scums/douche-bags', weird.

I agree, I kind of think/hope that this will be rather good for poker instead of it being bad, don't get things wrong, he is a douchebag but there are a lot of stupid people in this world that mistake that douchebagery behaviour by ''being cool'' I mean, just look at how people like Paris Hilton, she is just retarded but still a lot of people adore and a lot of young girls will probably want to be like her and stuff...

you guys are just jealous

On October 29 2008 01:24 wobbly_au wrote: most people who mock him are pretty retarded imo.. he pretty much has the right to be arrogant coz he is like top .1% of players

elaborate please

adz has no boundaries, he is willing to thieve and back stab supposed friends for money

On October 29 2008 00:30 RS_II wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2008 21:37 devon06atX wrote:   On October 28 2008 19:08 kantoiki wrote: Oh, rainyday is kimseongchan? Whats with the new lp account lol he's embarassed of his chinese origin, read his blog. he is korean you idiot

u got lvled dawg

On October 29 2008 00:33 milkman wrote: "i have 3 body guards and they each have 3 guns" and hes serious about it.. hes a winner but never really been considered a great or amazing player, just playd alot.

this is some epic lolz

MORE PLZ

are u kidding me, the more douchery this is the better it is for poker. All those rich socal ex-wigger douchebags will start dumping millions into poker industry cos its so baller. There is no bad publicity as long as said bad publicity isnt used for passing gay anti-poker legislations.

i dont know who he is ! lol

mez tell us more! there has to be some stories to share?

and capaneo can it really be that bad? for example there are many reporters writing absolutely horrible shit, yet not many reporters care at all if their colleagues are a little retarded (let alone quit their jobs) and many young people still dream of becoming reporters. Same goes for any profession?

and also i think many people watching will just think "how cool" -_-

A++++ USER, SUPER FAST SHIPMENT, NO PROBLEMS. WILL PURCHASE ACTION FIGURES FROM THIS BUYER AGAIN.

On October 28 2008 23:41 EXCELED wrote: looks like an entourage... fag style.

i like the song in his video.

This guy is a straight fuckin baller...i cant beleive as poker players you are actually berating his lifestyle...not all of you are berating him but to the ones that are...Dont you play poker to become rich and be able to buy all the stuff he potentionally has?...im hype to see this shit cuz i think itl motivate me to play more and become better

On October 29 2008 07:13 n0rthf4ce wrote: A++++ USER, SUPER FAST SHIPMENT, NO PROBLEMS. WILL PURCHASE ACTION FIGURES FROM THIS BUYER AGAIN.

lollllllllllll

On October 29 2008 06:01 SfydjkLm wrote: are u kidding me, the more douchery this is the better it is for poker. All those rich socal ex-wigger douchebags will start dumping millions into poker industry cos its so baller. There is no bad publicity as long as said bad publicity isnt used for passing gay anti-poker legislations.

my opinion too. Get ready for lots of more fish online. yay!

On October 29 2008 05:20 teej1985 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2008 01:24 wobbly_au wrote: most people who mock him are pretty retarded imo.. he pretty much has the right to be arrogant coz he is like top .1% of players elaborate please

what lostaccount already said imo.

On October 29 2008 08:20 p-halt wrote: This guy is a straight fuckin baller...i cant beleive as poker players you are actually berating his lifestyle...not all of you are berating him but to the ones that are...Dont you play poker to become rich and be able to buy all the stuff he potentionally has?...im hype to see this shit cuz i think itl motivate me to play more and become better

Its not like that. Like, Paris for example, there is nothing wrong with her having sex, but exposing it to the whole world as if it makes her special, thats a different story. Just about everyone here except Rekrul are surprisingly low profile.

On October 29 2008 11:22 wobbly_au wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2008 05:20 teej1985 wrote:   On October 29 2008 01:24 wobbly_au wrote: most people who mock him are pretty retarded imo.. he pretty much has the right to be arrogant coz he is like top .1% of players elaborate please what lostaccount already said imo.

what teej means is that adz isnt as good as you happen to think he is. and unlike you or lostaccount teej is qualified to comment because teej>>>>adz

interesting, worth a watch i guess

wtf is wrong with u ppl hating him ? yeah he s a douche while playing in PS (not that i know him irl or anything) but doesnt rly mean anything ... how many of u actually know him IRL ?! Anyway whats wrong with u srsly this show d be just pure entertainment he never said he s >>>>> us coz he has more cash or anything if he did then he s just retarded but that doesnt mean the show wont be good enough to get UNtilted or relax while watching it ...

Also this will be very good for poker and PS mainly if it gets famous there will be huge amount of new fishes coming into poker

Either way this is +EV And also hating people on the internet doesnt really make u much better than them if u think about it.If a guy is dumb why bother tell him ? Let him be that way its more amusing anyway.Saying stuff like " what a douche he is " only makes me think u envy him ...

On October 29 2008 11:31 Spitfiree wrote: Saying stuff like " what a douche he is " only makes me think u envy him ...

And? I envy George Bush for being a president of the US.
Does it make him any less of a douche?

Elky and Rekrul need to start their own show asap

Its just a dumb idea thats all,even if he was a great guy who wants to watch that shit?

god wobbly u again and the stupid posts

On October 29 2008 11:44 TalentedTom wrote: Elky and Rekrul need to start their own show asap

tru that would prob be 100000x more sick and interesting. nobody can really comment without seeing the show but adz is total small fry nobody on the 'famous known poker players' stage and his lifestyle is really not that remarkable at all. also why the hell not berate a widely known douchebag with less regard for ethics and less respect for his peers than most highstakes players? not that im doing any berating but those that are have every right

On October 29 2008 11:26 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2008 11:22 wobbly_au wrote:   On October 29 2008 05:20 teej1985 wrote:   On October 29 2008 01:24 wobbly_au wrote: most people who mock him are pretty retarded imo.. he pretty much has the right to be arrogant coz he is like top .1% of players elaborate please what lostaccount already said imo. what teej means is that adz isnt as good as you happen to think he is. and unlike you or lostaccount teej is qualified to comment because teej>>>>adz

QUOTED FOR MOTHER FUCKING TRUTH. Tom is the illest. Wobbly you're an idiot.

So just because you make a couple of millions a year you have the right to be a complete slob? And I dont care how Elky lives his life either. He is not out there making videos of himself. If he did and he was trying to show off his "baller" life style I would call him a complete jackass too.

The sad part is that this guy is so blind by reality that he doesnt even understand there are tons of people out there younger than him and have achived 1000 times more than him and have 1000 times more money than him.

Just as an example: Mark Zuckerberg is the CEO of facebook. At 24 he has more money than probably everyone who plays poker will have have combined all together!
He might be a slob in real and I dont know that. But what I know is that he is not out there advertising his gold watch.


Britney Spears at 25 had more money than this guy will ever have in his life probably.
Or Paris Hilton has already way more money than this guy can ever imagine.
This doesn't mean that whatever they do is correct and justified. There are probably many actors and actresses out there that are pissed cause now EVERY one thinks whoever is an actress is a whore and drug addict.

What I care about is that I happen to belong the same group as this guy does(even though I dont play professionally). So trying to confirm the image of pokerplayers as complete aragont, slobs is what I care about.

And correct me if Im wrong but didnt he cheat out Mez out of 40k?

agree with capaneo except the Paris Hilton part since she s :
a) retarded
b) whore in real meaning
c) attention whore
d) the only thing she has achieved is fail to stop her private porn tape get all across the net
the only reason she has money is coz her daddy s got one of best worldwide hotels....

Paris Hilton did simple life show

Ket To clarify what im saying, i agree with the basing on adz personality for his ettiquette and morals but im just saying the video might generate some interest from non poker players. He might even show he volunteers or donate a percentage of his money to charity for all we know. To us he is a douche but to the average person they are going to go zomg balla balla. I don't see how this is bad for poker if we haven't watch it yet. After i watch the show than ill have an opinion about the video but judging the video being bad before watching is just arrogant.

Paris might be dumb, but the whole machine behind her is brilliant. Every one can make a sex tape, not that easy to get famous of it.

I actually think Paris is smart tho. Bitch, but smart.

let the guy celebrate. he earned it anyway. imo only mez can qualify hating this guy coz they actually have some bad history.
personally i couldnt care less what he does with his money, and i really shouldnt because i dont even know him

wtf is this? looks horrible

On October 29 2008 01:24 wobbly_au wrote: most people who mock him are pretty retarded imo.. he pretty much has the right to be arrogant coz he is like top .1% of players

oh my god if i ever hear someone defend ADZ again, i will stab them. He is the definition of a douche bag, and anyone who defends him doesn't know what hes talking about or is dumb

Anyone who thinks we hate ADZ because he has a TV show we think is bad has no idea what they are talking about.

We hate ADZ, NOT The show we could care less about the show. ADZ is a douchebag and needs bodygaurds not from people robbing him but from other poker players beating his ass down. Get ur facts straight

BTW, i dont know if this is 100% true but i heard he paid for the show himself lol

On October 29 2008 13:23 capaneo wrote: The sad part is that this guy is so blind by reality that he doesnt even understand there are tons of people out there younger than him and have achived 1000 times more than him and have 1000 times more money than him.

dont agree with this at all

sure hes a total fag for showing off but he obviously had to develop a sick skill set to get where he is today. not just dumb luck etc and obv in the top 0.1% of the population in terms of income

and i dont get the hating. this would be entertainaing so why not just enjoy the show. the people who u guys say will think badly of poker after watching it are the same ones who will not even bother watching it in the first place. but lots of aspiring poker player wannabes will and that would be awesome for poker.

i dont think it will take off as a show tho. doubt any network will pick it up

shit capaneo ur post was so good until you used paris hilton as an example of a successful young person...

DooMeR so basically what ur saying is " im the only truth and anyone with other opinion is retarded" i think ur not far behind from ADZ then ....

anywayz the mp3 cut in the trailer or wever this is is just fucking insane

On October 29 2008 14:32 Spitfiree wrote: DooMeR so basically what ur saying is " im the only truth and anyone with other opinion is retarded" i think ur not far behind from ADZ then .... anywayz the mp3 cut in the trailer or wever this is is just fucking insane

Well put it this way, the people that know him or have dealt with him in some way, all consider him the scum of the earth. And most of the other people in this thread defending him, have no basis for an opinion, and are fanboys because they have seen him play 25/50 and assume hes one of the best in the world.

finally we got a white boy though besides eminem showing off money, cars, clothes, and hoes...were competing with the black gangstas is all i really care about and obv why this movie is hott =)



But for real though would you guys think this movie was hot if it was say....ELKY?

please, PLEASE don't compare a super hero like Elky to used toilet paper like ADZ.

elky isnt a retard who would go buy a new watch and car and friends just cuz theres a camera on him.. he bought a house, like a smart person..

adz paid the camera crew to follow him around, he bought a watch, a used aston martin or lambo or something all in one weekend so they would have some material.. he spent like over 150K and ended up with a 27 sec you tube clip..

On October 29 2008 15:52 p-halt wrote: finally we got a white boy though besides eminem showing off money, cars, clothes, and hoes...were competing with the black gangstas is all i really care about and obv why this movie is hott =) But for real though would you guys think this movie was hot if it was say....ELKY?

elky wouldn't make a retarded video like that. he'd show up as a hero.

i really hope you guys don't get involved with a guy like ADZ ever in your life. otherwise best of luck trying to pick up the pieces afterwards.

oh andd for poker as all the rich suburbian white boys with too much of their parents monies and too much free time could think "man if this kid is that rich off poker then maybe i could do it" this show could be very very sick goo

queue in them trying to "ball" like adz and going bustooo

more possible ez monies = awesome.

god most of you guys are so stupid it's scary

regardless what you think of ADZ with regards to his personal side, if I was in his position I would probably take at least a similar move with regard to his business side. I know very little about this show or anything to do with it because I don't give a shit about what some random fucktards do but from the brief glance I've had at things it seems like this is probably going to prove to be a worthwhile investment of time and money on ADZ's behalf. For example, if he invests like $400k into this show and gets $400k net profit then it's up to him to consider if it was worth having X number of people consider him a retard for it, etc. etc. etc.

Yes Elky is the resident 'hero' and as far as I can tell dominates ADZ to the ends of the earth when it comes to manner, but playing poker isn't a fucking tea party with all your fluffy fucking stuffed animals attending. It's a business where people like ADZ and Elky alike can make a lot of money, and in their particular cases each breaching the rules of poker on at least one occasion and doing generally anything within the rules to maximise profit.

DooMeR, I'm sure if his bodyguards ever took a break you'd be right in there to break ADZ's neck or if not you, someone else, 'cause I'm sureeee he's done something to warrant such physical harm as far as you're concerned.. rofl. With all the fucking beef that's been started in the online-poker community for the past 5 years, there have been like no fights followed up on in real life.

This looks like it's gonna be pretty cool. I'll definitely watch it.

Only reality show I ever liked was anna nicole and I didn't like her as a person

On October 29 2008 17:25 sOah wrote: DooMeR, I'm sure if his bodyguards ever took a break you'd be right in there to break ADZ's neck or if not you, someone else, 'cause I'm sureeee he's done something to warrant such physical harm as far as you're concerned.. rofl. With all the fucking beef that's been started in the online-poker community for the past 5 years, there have been like no fights followed up on in real life.

LOL u dont think hes done anything to warrent the hate? :

opinions are cool when they have a basis. They aren't when there is no basis for them. facts of life k?

EDIT: btw this sounds sort of sarcastic so cliffnotes are actually that, yes he has done things to warrent physical harm, not to me but to others. And I probably wouldn't jump him myself but if i was walking down an alley and he happened to be getting mugged and beaten, i'd find a chair and obs.

fist fiiiight! ADZ vs DooMeR! place your bets...

Are there any "humble" poker ballers? Players who own nosebleed stakes but don't flaunt that shit?

i heard doomer has mad ninja skills

whatd he do paciffically besides steal 40k from mez?

didn't mezmerizeplz make some thread on 2+2 involving adz colluding?

On October 29 2008 17:25 sOah wrote: god most of you guys are so stupid it's scary regardless what you think of ADZ with regards to his personal side, if I was in his position I would probably take at least a similar move with regard to his business side. I know very little about this show or anything to do with it because I don't give a shit about what some random fucktards do but from the brief glance I've had at things it seems like this is probably going to prove to be a worthwhile investment of time and money on ADZ's behalf. For example, if he invests like $400k into this show and gets $400k net profit then it's up to him to consider if it was worth having X number of people consider him a retard for it, etc. etc. etc. Yes Elky is the resident 'hero' and as far as I can tell dominates ADZ to the ends of the earth when it comes to manner, but playing poker isn't a fucking tea party with all your fluffy fucking stuffed animals attending. It's a business where people like ADZ and Elky alike can make a lot of money, and in their particular cases each breaching the rules of poker on at least one occasion and doing generally anything within the rules to maximise profit. DooMeR, I'm sure if his bodyguards ever took a break you'd be right in there to break ADZ's neck or if not you, someone else, 'cause I'm sureeee he's done something to warrant such physical harm as far as you're concerned.. rofl. With all the fucking beef that's been started in the online-poker community for the past 5 years, there have been like no fights followed up on in real life.

if im in a diff country or for some reason knew i wouldnt get in much legal trouble, i would ez bitch slap adz.. maybe not punch him, but at the very least a nice humiliating bitch slap.. but if he payd back a friend of mine the money he owes.. then i got nuthin against him.. still dont like him... but wouldnt wanna harm him.

lol i knew i shouldn't have looked

On October 29 2008 17:25 sOah wrote: god most of you guys are so stupid it's scary regardless what you think of ADZ with regards to his personal side, if I was in his position I would probably take at least a similar move with regard to his business side. I know very little about this show or anything to do with it because I don't give a shit about what some random fucktards do but from the brief glance I've had at things it seems like this is probably going to prove to be a worthwhile investment of time and money on ADZ's behalf. For example, if he invests like $400k into this show and gets $400k net profit then it's up to him to consider if it was worth having X number of people consider him a retard for it, etc. etc. etc. Yes Elky is the resident 'hero' and as far as I can tell dominates ADZ to the ends of the earth when it comes to manner, but playing poker isn't a fucking tea party with all your fluffy fucking stuffed animals attending. It's a business where people like ADZ and Elky alike can make a lot of money, and in their particular cases each breaching the rules of poker on at least one occasion and doing generally anything within the rules to maximise profit. DooMeR, I'm sure if his bodyguards ever took a break you'd be right in there to break ADZ's neck or if not you, someone else, 'cause I'm sureeee he's done something to warrant such physical harm as far as you're concerned.. rofl. With all the fucking beef that's been started in the online-poker community for the past 5 years, there have been like no fights followed up on in real life.

So if I get it right you mean Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are two of your biggest heros? They saw place for making some real money and they jumped in and made lots of money and they dont give a damn about what people think.
A question for you:
Would you lead your life like Paris Hilton if you could? To make money?
You do anything just to make money cause thats the "smart" thing to do? Is that right?

On October 29 2008 21:10 capaneo wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2008 17:25 sOah wrote: god most of you guys are so stupid it's scary regardless what you think of ADZ with regards to his personal side, if I was in his position I would probably take at least a similar move with regard to his business side. I know very little about this show or anything to do with it because I don't give a shit about what some random fucktards do but from the brief glance I've had at things it seems like this is probably going to prove to be a worthwhile investment of time and money on ADZ's behalf. For example, if he invests like $400k into this show and gets $400k net profit then it's up to him to consider if it was worth having X number of people consider him a retard for it, etc. etc. etc. Yes Elky is the resident 'hero' and as far as I can tell dominates ADZ to the ends of the earth when it comes to manner, but playing poker isn't a fucking tea party with all your fluffy fucking stuffed animals attending. It's a business where people like ADZ and Elky alike can make a lot of money, and in their particular cases each breaching the rules of poker on at least one occasion and doing generally anything within the rules to maximise profit. DooMeR, I'm sure if his bodyguards ever took a break you'd be right in there to break ADZ's neck or if not you, someone else, 'cause I'm sureeee he's done something to warrant such physical harm as far as you're concerned.. rofl. With all the fucking beef that's been started in the online-poker community for the past 5 years, there have been like no fights followed up on in real life. So if I get it right you mean Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are two of your biggest heros? They saw place for making some real money and they jumped in and made lots of money and they dont give a damn about what people think. A question for you: Would you lead your life like Paris Hilton if you could? To make money? You do anything just to make money cause thats the "smart" thing to do? Is that right?

if I was in his position I would probably take at least a similar move with regard to his business side

I'm not in his position.. but yea your questions all seem to draw context from an invisible paragraph or something, also Paris Hilton and Britney for example are far from my biggest heroes. I hope they made their own choices and didn't have others make it for them and then there's not much else for me to so on that matter. Maybe one of my key underlying points wasn't really very clear at all - I feel that people should make their own decisions and have that be the deciding factor; do they wanna do something that they can do and wouldn't directly negatively affect others? if yes then fucking go for it, etc.

On October 29 2008 09:51 Yugless wrote: you only crawl out of the woodwork when you have something extra stupid to say don't you?

On October 29 2008 17:25 sOah wrote: . With all the fucking beef that's been started in the online-poker community for the past 5 years, there have been like no fights followed up on in real life.

this is so true it's gay.the internets is a safe place still. lol

I love to see trash TV, so bring it on

i lol'd watching this

i actually agree with Soah, i mean he has the tact of a fucking sandpaper and goes overboard in a silly way often but he is smart and has interesting opinions, however i think you are way off here man.

Life is not all about EV+ movements, life is much much more than that, and that is why ADZ is fucking scum, regardless of how much money he makes or not.

On October 29 2008 13:23 capaneo wrote: So just because you make a couple of millions a year you have the right to be a complete slob? And I dont care how Elky lives his life either. He is not out there making videos of himself. If he did and he was trying to show off his "baller" life style I would call him a complete jackass too. The sad part is that this guy is so blind by reality that he doesnt even understand there are tons of people out there younger than him and have achived 1000 times more than him and have 1000 times more money than him. Just as an example: Mark Zuckerberg is the CEO of facebook. At 24 he has more money than probably everyone who plays poker will have have combined all together! He might be a slob in real and I dont know that. But what I know is that he is not out there advertising his gold watch. Britney Spears at 25 had more money than this guy will ever have in his life probably. Or Paris Hilton has already way more money than this guy can ever imagine. This doesn't mean that whatever they do is correct and justified. There are probably many actors and actresses out there that are pissed cause now EVERY one thinks whoever is an actress is a whore and drug addict. What I care about is that I happen to belong the same group as this guy does(even though I dont play professionally). So trying to confirm the image of pokerplayers as complete aragont, slobs is what I care about. And correct me if Im wrong but didnt he cheat out Mez out of 40k?

lol if u didn't care u wouldn't be hating this hard on a internet forum. what is wrong with you. Its funny how ur comparing him to 0.000001% of the world when he is 0.00001%. Give him a break. C'mon Facebook CEO? LOL.

I'm looking forward for the show and i hope it becomes a hit. Hopefully it can boom up poker even more.

i remember at pca one year there was an giant piece of paper next to the door on the poker room that said 'ADZ is a douchbag' and people just kept walking by and signing it until it got taken down

On October 30 2008 00:39 AndrewSong wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2008 13:23 capaneo wrote: So just because you make a couple of millions a year you have the right to be a complete slob? And I dont care how Elky lives his life either. He is not out there making videos of himself. If he did and he was trying to show off his "baller" life style I would call him a complete jackass too. The sad part is that this guy is so blind by reality that he doesnt even understand there are tons of people out there younger than him and have achived 1000 times more than him and have 1000 times more money than him. Just as an example: Mark Zuckerberg is the CEO of facebook. At 24 he has more money than probably everyone who plays poker will have have combined all together! He might be a slob in real and I dont know that. But what I know is that he is not out there advertising his gold watch. Britney Spears at 25 had more money than this guy will ever have in his life probably. Or Paris Hilton has already way more money than this guy can ever imagine. This doesn't mean that whatever they do is correct and justified. There are probably many actors and actresses out there that are pissed cause now EVERY one thinks whoever is an actress is a whore and drug addict. What I care about is that I happen to belong the same group as this guy does(even though I dont play professionally). So trying to confirm the image of pokerplayers as complete aragont, slobs is what I care about. And correct me if Im wrong but didnt he cheat out Mez out of 40k? lol if u didn't care u wouldn't be hating this hard on a internet forum. what is wrong with you. Its funny how ur comparing him to 0.000001% of the world when he is 0.00001%. Give him a break. C'mon Facebook CEO? LOL. I'm looking forward for the show and i hope it becomes a hit. Hopefully it can boom up poker even more.

On October 29 2008 13:23 capaneo wrote: What I care about is that.....

Are you REALLY that retarded? I mean really??

CAN--------------------YOU----------------------READ??

PS:

lol if u didn't care u wouldn't be hating this hard on a internet forum. what is wrong with you. Its funny how ur comparing him to 0.000001% of the world when he is 0.00001%. Give him a break. C'mon Facebook CEO? LOL.

Whats your point here??
Do you even try to make a point when you open your mouth?
Let me ask it like this... Have you ever tried to make a point about anything in an intelectual conversation in your life?
Because, honestly, from your post I see a person who never made a point in his life. Otherwise you wouldnt write something like that.
Try to think before you talk. Its not really that hard.

On October 29 2008 22:13 Yugless wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2008 09:51 Yugless wrote: you only crawl out of the woodwork when you have something extra stupid to say don't you?

I manage to supress the urges to on average once a week

yea I am just really stupid, it's so sick.. that's why I have a lot of haters on an internet poker forum! I'm so unhappy

I dunno I didn't really mean life was all about +EV moments, you can't really apply EV to most of life anyways because rationality is totally subjective

capaneo what does 'intelectual' mean? Also, what is a 'genious'?

On October 30 2008 04:37 teej1985 wrote: capaneo what does 'intelectual' mean? Also, what is a 'genious'?

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/525855

check this out, adz is a sweet actor. "bitch GO FUCK YOURSELF"

ROFL

On October 30 2008 00:02 Baal wrote: i actually agree with Soah, i mean he has the tact of a fucking sandpaper and goes overboard in a silly way often but he is smart and has interesting opinions, however i think you are way off here man. Life is not all about EV+ movements, life is much much more than that, and that is why ADZ is fucking scum, regardless of how much money he makes or not.

wow well said

cap ur pretty dumb IMO....


soah pretty spot on here.

Capaneo, although you are a poker player just like ADZ, how does HIS persona affect you personally? He gives poker a "bad" image? Alright, cool, but you shouldn't be affected by it. You can only control yourself, and yourself only. Why waste energy getting angry at some douchebag like ADZ?

On October 30 2008 07:57 TheHuHu3 wrote: Capaneo, although you are a poker player just like ADZ, how does HIS persona affect you personally? He gives poker a "bad" image? Alright, cool, but you shouldn't be affected by it. You can only control yourself, and yourself only. Why waste energy getting angry at some douchebag like ADZ?

Indeed
Noone can judge what other people do with their lives.Its up to themselves. ADZ could be an asshole, douchebag etc. but let me ask u something.Why the fuck would i care?And why the fuck would other people here that have nothing to do with him care?He spent 150k over 27s video on youtube so what?He can do it why not do it then didnt see how that video could hurt anyone huh.What i mean is certain people here might have personal issues with him for example i didnt know that he stole 40k from Mez or smtng but all in all thats his problem.I m not saying that he s allowed to do wever he wants coz he got cash like steal & etc just coz he got cash but thats why people thought of laws, lawyers and etc.When he s stolen 40k - good sue his ass get 400k back instead.So my main point is writing posts about how bad of a guy he is over the internet will not change anything and thats a fact noone can argue with.

its always a little disheartening that every douchebag move is justified by making money in the poker world

What i mean is certain people here might have personal issues with him for example i didnt know that he stole 40k from Mez or smtng but all in all thats his problem.

this is where the poker communities fail. its not mez' problem its everyones problem. if people can scam whoever with the only result 1 person disliking them it would be an easy world. until there exists a feeling of sticking up for others in cases like this people will continue to do whatever it takes to make an extra buck.

is it just me or is adz a little short ?

On October 30 2008 04:37 teej1985 wrote: capaneo what does 'intelectual' mean? Also, what is a 'genious'?

Thats a really tough question to answer. But what it is for me might not be right for you.
I know whats ADZ think of the answer to this question.
You can look up people around you or in the history and try to make up your mind.

This guy is a VERY VERY intelectual man. He is a genious by probably ALL standards.
Just listen to him talk for 10min and you know what I mean.


Here is the full video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7136440703094429927

Now I rather people think of Feynman when I introduce myself to them. Apperently Wobbely wants people to think of ADZ when he introduce himself!
If you rather ADZ over Feynman. Thats OK. But I believe that Im speaking for majority when I say I prefer Feynman to some slob.

On October 30 2008 07:57 TheHuHu3 wrote: Capaneo, although you are a poker player just like ADZ, how does HIS persona affect you personally? He gives poker a "bad" image? Alright, cool, but you shouldn't be affected by it. You can only control yourself, and yourself only. Why waste energy getting angry at some douchebag like ADZ?

Well basically it will affect mylife since the image of a poker player will affect my life in some ways as well. Even though its VERY VERY far from how I act. But if you tell people that you are play poker and they see this show thats how immidiatly they view you.

On October 30 2008 12:57 whamm! wrote: is it just me or is adz a little short ?

god wobby, you are disgusting

"Well basically it will affect mylife since the image of a poker player will affect my life in some ways as well. Even though its VERY VERY far from how I act. But if you tell people that you are play poker and they see this show thats how immidiatly they view you."


You dont want people to think of you as having alot of money and being in the top 1% of people making x amount of money per year?

i started showing this video to whomever asks me why i play poker.

On October 30 2008 15:43 p-halt wrote: "Well basically it will affect mylife since the image of a poker player will affect my life in some ways as well. Even though its VERY VERY far from how I act. But if you tell people that you are play poker and they see this show thats how immidiatly they view you." You dont want people to think of you as having alot of money and being in the top 1% of people making x amount of money per year?

i personally dont want people to think of me as being full of myself, and think that i'm the hottest shit there.

On October 30 2008 13:06 capaneo wrote: Well basically it will affect mylife since the image of a poker player will affect my life in some ways as well. Even though its VERY VERY far from how I act. But if you tell people that you are play poker and they see this show thats how immidiatly they view you.

How will it affect you? Why not just continue what you are doing and not let petty crap like this get to you?

Here's an example : A video of a cop using excessive force on a criminal is shown through the net and it's obvious the cop is a douchebag.

This shouldn't deter the GOOD cops from doing their job that they have been doing for their whole life. This one bad cop doesn't affect them whatsoever even though they are all part of law enforcement. If some citizens view all cops as assholes, that's THEIR problem, not the cops.

So again, why are you getting mad at this?

you must be pretty far removed from reality if you think that doesnt affect the other cops in their daily work

On October 30 2008 12:57 whamm! wrote: is it just me or is adz a little short ?

he'd play basketball but he isnt tall

On October 30 2008 17:50 Bluffed1331 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2008 12:57 whamm! wrote: is it just me or is adz a little short ? he'd play basketball but he isnt tall

I lawl'd

On October 30 2008 17:35 Nazgul wrote: you must be pretty far removed from reality if you think that doesnt affect the other cops in their daily work

Whose problem is it if citizens view cops as assholes?

People care way too much about others' opinions! One should only care about the opionions of those who are around him. F.x., i don't care about what other ppl think about me unless they are my friends, family members and so on. And if i don't agree with their opinion, i don't care about it cause i know it is a wrong opinion. So, in the end you don't get tilted by shit comments at all and are happy. Why would u care what John from the neighbourhood thinks about you if u don't like him or have no real relationship w/ him. Just do what ya want and don't bother what stpid thoughts some stpid ppl have about you. You know it is not true and that is it.
This guy is pretty lame imo. kinda pointless show off. Like "see my ass! I just shaved it, u seee? i love my shaved ass, damn it is so cool, do you see it? u like it don't you, i know you do, it is just so perfect! u gotta adore it!" talking abstractly. I don't rly think that it will have any major influence on ppl's opinions. However, poker is not the same as the cop job cause it is like stg ppl don't know at all, lots of prejudices and almost all of them are 100% wrong. My mother still thinks i am playing roullete and that i am playing with ex-prisoners and drug-addicts, drug bosses at the casinos. Same with the mother of a friend (ex-prisoners suspected lol). Ppl are just set to live in a standard way, calmly and so on and everything out of that box is=dangerous/bad. The end. Z-z-z.

On October 30 2008 18:01 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2008 17:35 Nazgul wrote: you must be pretty far removed from reality if you think that doesnt affect the other cops in their daily work Whose problem is it if citizens view cops as assholes?

The cops of course because it affects them on the job.

Icelandic reality for example is getting such that cops get harassed relentlessly in hopes of them using excessive force that then goes on the internet in .2 seconds and everything explodes.
As a result, no one has any respect for cops and they "get a lot of shit".


note: cops in iceland don't have guns, so harassing them is actually possible without getting shot.


on note with the thread:
Adz is obv. a douche, but I think the theory of a show such as this is great, albeit it won't get made and even if it would, it won't get big.
There are a looooot of people that'd watch said show, want to aspire alike, fail, and flood the poker economy with easy money.
That's a good thing.

The general effect this might have on the view people has of poker players might be bad, but then again...the image people HAS of poker players IS bad.
that is, "Baller with a grill in yo teeth" vs. "a lucky gambling addict due to go broke".
both are quite bad imo.
That's a bad thing.

imo the good point by far outweighs the bad.
Cap. you tell people your profession, they judge you, then you get to know them and they learn that you are neither a "baller with a grill in yo teeth" nor a "lucky gambling addict due to go broke".
So in my opinion peoples image on you're lifestyle/profession really shouldn't have a deep impact on you in any way, as said view is obviously built on misinformation, or at best, little information, that should be easily corrected, and un-needed to correct against those that matter to you...

Nazgul is spot on though about the community feeling - ADZ being a douche, should excactly affect everyone, just so people wont get away with scamming and douchebagging other people.

On October 30 2008 18:01 TheHuHu3 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2008 17:35 Nazgul wrote: you must be pretty far removed from reality if you think that doesnt affect the other cops in their daily work Whose problem is it if citizens view cops as assholes?

yea and you have huge groups of people hating on cops. that could ultimately endanger them in the most severe cases and make their lives harder at the very least.

hell when i see a cop i insta think "shit act normal so i don't get a ticket for breathing"

although i feel a lot of the hate towards cops is pretty fucking justified. even with my own personal experiences.

and i'd be fucking life tilted if i'm not already if i ever got associated with a guy like ADZ

The whole point that Im trying to make is the same as what Naz is saying.

This IS bad for poker in general. And one guy is pushing the envelope portrating all poker players as slobs AGAIN.

IMO everyone who doesnt think playing poker and making money means you live your life like a slob should be at least mad at this.

Its like the black comunity in US. People like Dr. King and many others started to change the standard portrait of a black man. Trying to show the world that not all black men are gangsters and not all of the black girls are whores. Promoting that black people should goto school and get educated. Some black people also wear a suite and give out speeches about freedom.
Now we have this new black generation who IS painting all the blacks as gangsters and all the girls as bitches and trying to say that we shoot each other!! This is REALLY REALLY messed up. And this is what ADZ is doing here.

something like this

On October 30 2008 21:25 capaneo wrote: The whole point that Im trying to make is the same as what Naz is saying. This IS bad for poker in general. And one guy is pushing the envelope portrating all poker players as slobs AGAIN. IMO everyone who doesnt think playing poker and making money means you live your life like a slob should be at least mad at this. Its like the black comunity in US. People like Dr. King and many others started to change the standard portrait of a black man. Trying to show the world that not all black men are gangsters and not all of the black girls are whores. Promoting that black people should goto school and get educated. Some black people also wear a suite and give out speeches about freedom. Now we have this new black generation who IS painting all the blacks as gangsters and all the girls as bitches and trying to say that we shoot each other!! This is REALLY REALLY messed up. And this is what ADZ is doing here. something like this

I dont %100 agree with what Cosby is saying btw. But he is trying to make the same point. Some people are just going way off. Thinking that whatever you do to make money is a smart thing and therefore is the right thing.

I dont know maynard is trying to say but posting that pic. I dont know Maynard at all but he doesnt struck me as someone very intellectual. Do you care to explain what you mean Maynard or you just trying to look cool by posting random stuff on internet forum??

On October 30 2008 22:31 capaneo wrote: I dont %100 agree with what Cosby is saying btw. But he is trying to make the same point. Some people are just going way off. Thinking that whatever you do to make money is a smart thing and therefore is the right thing. I dont know maynard is trying to say but posting that pic. I dont know Maynard at all but he doesnt struck me as someone very intellectual. Do you care to explain what you mean Maynard or you just trying to look cool by posting random stuff on internet forum??

Your analogy sickens me far more than anything ADZ/Baller related could ever do. You're a fucking poker player for christs sake. You play fucking cards for money. Don't you dare even make some retarded analogy about black disenfranchisement and their lack of role models to the image poker players portray.

IMO everyone who doesnt think playing poker and making money means you live your life like a slob should be at least mad at this.

Never thought of this that way, mainly because i never judge people coz of the community they belong to race/etcetc.The main images of white people black people etc.etc. is one of the most retarded stuff the human has thought of and they are totally out of line.Every person counts for himself and is diffferent from any other.So what i mean is I know there are people that when u start speaking about someone black and they r like " OMG this nigger he s prolly a gangster he kills ppl etc etc. " without actually knowing the guy but those people are plainly retarded.So now indeed what i mean is One person shouldnt be able to change the view over a whole community ( they view us as degens already anyway and look at the Esfandiari and Laak show they dont set a good example either )

On October 30 2008 23:16 Maynard! wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2008 22:31 capaneo wrote: I dont %100 agree with what Cosby is saying btw. But he is trying to make the same point. Some people are just going way off. Thinking that whatever you do to make money is a smart thing and therefore is the right thing. I dont know maynard is trying to say but posting that pic. I dont know Maynard at all but he doesnt struck me as someone very intellectual. Do you care to explain what you mean Maynard or you just trying to look cool by posting random stuff on internet forum?? Your analogy sickens me far more than anything ADZ/Baller related could ever do. You're a fucking poker player for christs sake. You play fucking cards for money. Don't you dare even make some retarded analogy about black disenfranchisement and their lack of role models to the image poker players portray.

You should have kept your mouth shut. The way you speak without addressing any point is just very childish. Do a little growing up and then come back if you want to address something.

BTW: Learn how to talk properly. Its kind of important in a conversation.

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