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And its not 'my technique' ...theres only one way to organize music ---> playlists.. Either you organize your stuff or you don't

From what you said in this thread you were more interested in having a 'loved' or 'elite' tracks playlist, so I don't see how telling me how many albums you have on your hard drive is any relevant, sounds like you're just dodging the point that I made there. You're still shuffling a lot of music, even though it's not randomly. And that's fine, like I said to each his own but don't dramatize and say we aren't smart and/or music lovers because we don't do it.

I'm not going to lie though and that is my opinion on it: an artist's works should be listened to as a whole. I think shuffling is a flawed and juvenile (for lack of a better word) way of listening to music. If the music is shallow and manufactured then who cares the tracks stand on their own (because they're at their base the same tracks), and there are also tracks in other genres of music like electronic that stand on their own and that don't necessarily fall under those judgments but in general an interesting artist's works is something personal and often has a concept or can/has to be seen as a journey through the mind of the person who created that work of art at the time, and by just listening to a few tracks from it is not taking the artist and therefore his music seriously no matter how much you like those tracks. That is obviously assuming that you have made an habit of listening to music this way more often than not and not just doing it sometimes. I'm using 'you' in a general way here, I'm not saying you personally do.

But going back on the playlist subject, if you're using playlists for your albums too, then It's quite pointless considering all good music software have a built in search function. Unless for some reason you cannot access the search feature for a given amount of time (lol what right?) I don't see why it would ever be useful to use a playlist system for albums. What tells you that after having listened to an album you will want to listen to the next one you put there initially? Unless you're basically working by listening to new albums constantly I see no reason to do so. I mean I could see how it makes sense for a person working for a review site for example, to help him organize the stuff that he *has* to listen to. But even then, assuming the person isn't reviewing only one type of music, it sounds like a pretty bad idea to me to force a certain order unless current mood is not something important/a variable in the process for the person listening to the music, which sounds ridiculous to me because it should be.

On February 04 2009 12:38 Louispgagne wrote: And its not 'my technique' ...theres only one way to organize music ---> playlists.. Either you organize your stuff or you don't

So I guess the question I should ask you is: why do you organize your music and why is it important?

OCD? Kinda looks like it. Or too much time on your hands?

iTunes (and I am sure other players) will organise all your songs into whatever way you want them to (ie style, artists, times played, etc..). So its not really about making playlists, its just making sure that your songs are all properly tagged with the correct genre information.

Anyway I am an ex-music student, and I appreciate all sorts of music. But as has been said before the attitude you are implying is that, we, are all insignificant music listeners because we dont have a 90k music library that is perfectly organised. I have about 8k songs, which are reasonably organised, but not perfectly. I am sure there are a few gems in there that you have not listened too, but if I were to list a few, what would be the point, as its not up to your standard of perfection, with your crazy playlists.

Alot of people here have given you some songs, which they feel are worthy, yet you dont seem to acknowledge any of their suggestions. I would say 99% of everyone else will not have these perfect playlists, and simply listing a few is the most easiest way to let you know.

I guess what I am trying to say, is stop being so stuck up and appreciate some of the suggestions.

I doubt he meant that we are all insignificant music listeners, but there was definitely a condescending tone there - no doubt about it.

And yeah, I personally use foobar which has a lot more features than iTunes and is highly customizable, and I can't see how using his supposedly superior playlists method would ever make a positive difference in my listening habits, and I am a true music maniac, which he seems to think is not possible unless we adhere to his method.

On February 03 2009 23:01 Louispgagne wrote: You guys are horrible seriously. Music, i must say, is one of life's finest pleasures. And now that we live in the information age and that we have access to pretty much everything out there, countless of gigs, its really an aberration that you guys aren't using playlists to their full extent. It's really lame to go ; Hi! my name is _ _ _ _ and i really like music and i'm really cool but i don't use playlists! GUYS; playlists are there to help you ORGANIZE your stuff and to make music listening more enjoyable. Damn..... ( yes this is a rant)

Ok so post some of some songs that you your self wrote as a music lover you want to create your own right?

Judging others just cuz they don't spend hours and hours organizing music files and saying they don't love music is absurd. I'd much rather play my guitar or do some sick jam session with neighbors than sit in my room and organize some goddamn music files.

I agree with what Loco said I believe most creative (not just commercial) artist create their albums based on concept. After a while I really don't mind picking my favorite songs or just be selective because after listening to anything a thousands time your ears seems to not like it as much. And yeah you should probably use something like pandora (not sure if this one is still working) or last.fm would save your ass some trouble.

On February 04 2009 00:31 Louispgagne wrote: Eminem - Lose yourself... lol..that was obvious

Forgot about that one hehe

You guys are completely missing the whole point. I don't wanna impose my so called 'method' of organizing music upon you. What i was asking was whether we could trade those playlists. Either you have playlists or you don't. My method is not superior. I may have more playlists than you and they might be better organized but who cares. I don't care how many playlists you have or how you label them. As long as you have one good one that we could trade, that's fine. I'm sure some dude out there created a playlist of say, his favorite metal. Even if his mp3 database is organized horribly or not organized at all, as long as he has that one good playlist of metal , i'd be happy to take it.

About the artist's work, me saying that 75% of my data was made up of full albums was just to demonstrate that i do care about the artist's entire work. That doesn't mean i don't use playlists for individual tracks. But yes, playlists are almost exclusively for individual songs even though they work for full albums as well.

And Loco, you use foobar as well so presumably you know just how powerful that program is. That being said, i find it hard to believe that you don't see the potential in m3u playlist trading. And guys, please stop telling me about last.fm and pandora. I'm already using those and they're really nice, but no, these are not even remotely as good as straight up playlist trading.

If i could boost your self-esteem a little bit, i posted the same topic at teamliquid and quickly found out that these chobos aren't using playlists either


I guess i'll be posting at sites like hydrogenaudio instead

On February 04 2009 23:06 Louispgagne wrote: I don't wanna impose my so called 'method' of organizing music upon you. What i was asking was whether we could trade those playlists. Either you have playlists or you don't. My method is not superior.

Really?

On February 03 2009 23:01 Louispgagne wrote: You guys are horrible seriously. Music, i must say, is one of life's finest pleasures. And now that we live in the information age and that we have access to pretty much everything out there, countless of gigs, its really an aberration that you guys aren't using playlists to their full extent. It's really lame to go ; Hi! my name is _ _ _ _ and i really like music and i'm really cool but i don't use playlists!

On February 04 2009 23:06 Louispgagne wrote: I may have more playlists than you and they might be better organized but who cares.

That was my point exactly, thanks.

Yes I know how powerful foobar is. So powerful that I don't need to use playlists. I consider myself a 'serious' music listener though so I use sites like rateyourmusic and last.fm to be in contact with people who have similar interests as mine to recommend me good music, good albums - not individual songs. I know that they will recommend me good stuff because I see what they listen to, so I don't need to go around on random forums to ask for playlist files from total strangers who don't share my tastes in music nor my listening methods.

You also haven't shown much modesty in this thread, calling yourself an obsessive maniac etc and boasting about your music library. You might have 90K songs and a well organized library but how's it relevant? To be honest in those 90K tracks I feel very confident that you wouldn't have anything of interest for me. So it's not like your some kind of music Guru because of those things.

where is the jazz genre (or jazzrock, fusion).

i like your idea and i am interested in your classical playlist.

no play list is complete without the blues or at least Jazz comon ;(

On February 05 2009 14:23 YoMeR wrote: no play list is complete without Jazz or at least the blues comon ;(

Loco, it's impossible to argue with you because you distort the conversation so much.

My thesis is that m3u playlist trading is a superior method of discovering good music when it's done properly.

Your response to that is a strong; NO it's not a good way. You back up your argument by saying that my idea would be inefficient because of ;

1.my supposed boasting of a having a large and well organized music database
2.the importance of listening to full albums
3.the existence of sites such as last.fm and ratemymusic.com
4.the scarcity of people using playlists

Number 1 is garbage. 2 is offtopic. 3 might be an alternative but i've explained that it wouldn't be as good.
4. You're right, but there must be some people out there that have taken the time to build at least one good playlist. It's not like the masses are my target audience here.


@SpasticInk from Sweden; man...Jazz is horrible lol...pretty much the only genre that i hate.

and yeah, i can send you my classical stuff..by email or something. Just use foobar and Soulseek and you'll be a happy man.

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I don't see how I'm distorting the conversation. I've only given my opinion on my method personally, and asked you what made your method better than mine or anyone's. To which you have never responded. Did I ever clearly state that mine was better or the best? No. The only thing that I did is mention how serious artists would like their listeners to listen to the music they put out and why. You said, on the other hand -- and I put it in bold when I quoted you -- that you didn't think your method was superior, yet here you are claiming that m3u playlist trading is a superior method of discovering good music like you did initially. So which is it and why did you deny it after we called you out on it?

My response is not a strong 'no'. I initially said I didn't get it, you didn't give me details you simply said that it wasn't hard to get. I went into details about my method and asked you what made yours better than mine, and how implementing into mine would make the listening experience any better, once again for some reason you haven't answered me and decided to decorticate everything that I said and disregard it. Am I really the one distorting things here? It doesn't seem so to me and two people agreed with me and another person said that you were also not very humble and respectful towards us as music listeners.

Jazz is horrible? Wow. I think I know exactly what Classical you listen to judging by that statement :/

I've got over 40gigs of underground hip-hop, but you listed 'rap' so what kind of 'rap' do you listen to?

On February 05 2009 16:00 Louispgagne wrote: My thesis is that m3u playlist trading is a superior method of discovering good music when it's done properly.

What kind of discussion is this wtf LOL?