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yeah fucking nog is like fedor if fedor did not exist. wtf is all this argument about? silva is great but he hasnt been in ANY great fights imo. he should try wandy and lets see, a real faggot dodging wandy by being in the same team sucking his dick

so how much does that laser beam cost?

On July 25 2008 18:33 KeanuReaver wrote: A. silva's lack of success in pride kind of annoys me. Yes he lost twice to two mediocre fighters but both cases were some of the slickest submissions you'll ever see. outside of that anderson silva's record is excellent despite being in the worst division in mma (he can't really help that though) and he's been extremely impressive in his wins. I can't condone kid hate. His record isn't anywhere near as impressive as many others but that isn't something he can help...he's beaten everyone he's faced except for one bs cut (and there are some pretty impressive wins there too) fighting AT LEAST two divisions above his natural weight class. I understand on any realistic success/competition ranking he's not going to find a spot but if you know his credentials and seen his fights it's hard to deny he isn't one of the greatest fighters ever. the guy is basically sean sherk if sean sherk was a better wrestler, had near K-1 calibur striking (with nuclear missles for hands), and would absolutely horrify people from top position instead of just wear them out and bleed on them (ps there's an unbeatable fighter hybrid, sean sherk + aids). with bj, i really think hansen has a great shot at beating him as hansen is just so good at neutralizing whatever his opponent does best. i also agree gomi on his A-game has a great shot too, as does mach on his A-game (which btw would be an absolutely unreal matchup). i don't think aoki will be able to do what he's done in the past to bj, i don't want to bring up aoki's bjj match vs garcia since he was so young (and he was facing garcia who's pretty much fedor in the grappling world) but a young and green bj penn won the 2nd most prestigious grappling event in the world...and comparing bj to jz or hansen is a little ridiculous. both jz and hansen are great grapplers but nowhere even remotely near bj's level.

fox and i were talking about how bj's bjj is the best in mma and you can notice it by how he finishes fights. A lot of the really slick bjj guys have the whole schmorgasbord of submissions in their fighting resume, ending fights with triangles, armbars, kimuras, leglocks. BJ doesnt do that. BJ establishes a dominant position and never takes an unnecessary chance, and goes for the extremely high probability submissions like RNC and arm triangle, or just finishing by strikes from mount position. seeing a fighter just dominate on the ground like that and ALWAYS end up in a mounted position then finish the fight is whats most impressive to me

On July 25 2008 13:26 Stim_Abuser wrote: fedor has never lost a single round in MMA excluding the cut thing which no one counts.

Pretty sure he lost at least one round vs Arona back in Rings. Although they didn't even have punches on the ground back then so Or maybe it was punches to the head on the ground.. was a while since I watched it.

On July 25 2008 11:40 Fox wrote: Show nested quote + On July 25 2008 11:02 Daut wrote:   On July 25 2008 05:32 TianYuan wrote:   On July 25 2008 00:23 Daut wrote: aoki would never ever ever ever beat bj penn in a billion trillion years. hansen/alvarez/jz/gomi have a chance with probably an A game gomi having the best shot. aoki is just totally outclassed vs bj. no way he would ever submit him, his striking is nonexistant and bj has insane takedown defense and better takedowns. this coming from possibly aoki's biggest mancrush. god <3 aoki such a hero, only a real man can attempt a kneebar, an ankle lock, a triangle, a gogo, an armbar and a RNC in a 2 round fight. You know what I was really surprised by tho? How easily Aoki got Uno to the ground. I thought Uno's takedown defence looked REALLY good vs Ishida, a little Penn like if you will But yeah, Uno - despite having a draw vs Penn - isn't the same thing as actually fighting Penn hehe.. Btw if you like Aoki you really should check out Masakazu Imanari. I think they train together, but I like his submission-entrances more (ie his crazy dives into leglocks :D). dont let fox see you wrote this he will go on a tirade about how imanari is the devil that guy should be banned from fighting.

Haha why?
I'm gonna guess it's something to do with the fact that he goes for heelhooks every single time and they have a very high risk to cause serious injury (which is obviously bad but he's still exciting as hell)?

no it's because he'S EVIL

On July 25 2008 18:33 KeanuReaver wrote: I can't condone kid hate.

Kid hate comes from his arrogance and inability to control himself in a fight imo.

i don't think aoki will be able to do what he's done in the past to bj, i don't want to bring up aoki's bjj match vs garcia since he was so young (and he was facing garcia who's pretty much fedor in the grappling world) but a young and green bj penn won the 2nd most prestigious grappling event in the world...

Its hardlly a proper comparasion, as BJJ and MMA jits are very very different.
And Aoki, in my opinion is the best MMA-jits in the whole sport. All other fighters use striking and wrestling to setup BJJ play, catch someone in a submission, etc, but Aoki, Aoki doesnt need anything else, he just uses BJJ all the way through, from start to finish, to neutralize whatever his opponent has for him.

and comparing bj to jz or hansen is a little ridiculous. both jz and hansen are great grapplers but nowhere even remotely near bj's level.

if thats aimed at me- i was comparing them striking wise first and foremost.

aoki is great, but bj is still above him.

there is a reason bj is considered the p4p best and it's not cuz he has a great chin or good hands. it's cuz his ground game is fedor level.

On July 26 2008 08:16 Fox wrote: aoki is great, but bj is still above him. there is a reason bj is considered the p4p best and it's not cuz he has a great chin or good hands. it's cuz his ground game is fedor level.

its cos UFC are very very good at promoting their top dogs.

reminds me of all the people thinking wandy would beat mirko
mirko might be the more accomplished kickboxer but this is EM EM AYY!
as i've said to fox when we discuss mma, i love how guys like bj show the difference between great and top class
aoki is a great grappler, bj is top class...if they fight, bj will display this.
and seriously "jits" is just a horrible term. don't ever use it. it's brazilian jiu jitsu or bjj, not "jits". i feel dirty even just typing it out.

On July 26 2008 09:29 KeanuReaver wrote: reminds me of all the people thinking wandy would beat mirko mirko might be the more accomplished kickboxer but this is EM EM AYY! as i've said to fox when we discuss mma, i love how guys like bj show the difference between great and top class aoki is a great grappler, bj is top class...if they fight, bj will display this. and seriously "jits" is just a horrible term. don't ever use it. it's brazilian jiu jitsu or bjj, not "jits". i feel dirty even just typing it out.

yes it is MMA, and the match was actually a draw.
And picking on words, thats just being a dick.

On July 26 2008 06:56 Fox wrote: no it's because he'S EVIL

What are you talking about..



I was trying to find his typical game-face but didn't find any good pics in google.

I should MS paint some horns.

On July 26 2008 10:09 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2008 09:29 KeanuReaver wrote: reminds me of all the people thinking wandy would beat mirko mirko might be the more accomplished kickboxer but this is EM EM AYY! as i've said to fox when we discuss mma, i love how guys like bj show the difference between great and top class aoki is a great grappler, bj is top class...if they fight, bj will display this. and seriously "jits" is just a horrible term. don't ever use it. it's brazilian jiu jitsu or bjj, not "jits". i feel dirty even just typing it out. yes it is MMA, and the match was actually a draw. And picking on words, thats just being a dick.

they fought twice you know...

and i kind of like calling it jits :O

On July 26 2008 15:07 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2008 10:09 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 26 2008 09:29 KeanuReaver wrote: reminds me of all the people thinking wandy would beat mirko mirko might be the more accomplished kickboxer but this is EM EM AYY! as i've said to fox when we discuss mma, i love how guys like bj show the difference between great and top class aoki is a great grappler, bj is top class...if they fight, bj will display this. and seriously "jits" is just a horrible term. don't ever use it. it's brazilian jiu jitsu or bjj, not "jits". i feel dirty even just typing it out. yes it is MMA, and the match was actually a draw. And picking on words, thats just being a dick. they fought twice you know... and i kind of like calling it jits :O

have you read the post i was quoting? By the time they fought the second time Mirko was already an accomplished mma fighter.

On July 26 2008 10:27 TianYuan wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2008 06:56 Fox wrote: no it's because he'S EVIL What are you talking about.. I was trying to find his typical game-face but didn't find any good pics in google. I should MS paint some horns.

i swear to god i will kill you. i'm having nightmares already.

anyone who thinks that aoki is better then bj on the ground is a bit off.

bj is the best overall ground fighter on the ground in mma. A guard that's top 3 and top position that's top 3.

aoki is top 5 for guard but he's not even top 10 for top position.

I'm not saying that aoki sucks, i'm a HUGE aoki fan... keanu/daut/me are HUGE aoki nuthuggers..

but this is bj we are talking about..

I should start Imanari-rolling you whenever you post. It will be the new Rickroll imo.
omg I should make this my stars avatar, ms paint some horns, and then spend my days stalking fox in the stars midstakes games.

On July 26 2008 16:01 Fox wrote: bj is the best overall ground fighter on the ground in mma. A guard that's top 3 and top position that's top 3.

well thats what im talking about. No doubt BJ is a top 5 lightweight fighter, but hes just so terribly overhyped. Really how can u possibly claim him to be the best ground fighter in MMA when Jacare is raping the MW grand prix?

On July 26 2008 15:14 SfydjkLm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2008 15:07 Daut wrote:   On July 26 2008 10:09 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 26 2008 09:29 KeanuReaver wrote: reminds me of all the people thinking wandy would beat mirko mirko might be the more accomplished kickboxer but this is EM EM AYY! as i've said to fox when we discuss mma, i love how guys like bj show the difference between great and top class aoki is a great grappler, bj is top class...if they fight, bj will display this. and seriously "jits" is just a horrible term. don't ever use it. it's brazilian jiu jitsu or bjj, not "jits". i feel dirty even just typing it out. yes it is MMA, and the match was actually a draw. And picking on words, thats just being a dick. they fought twice you know... and i kind of like calling it jits :O have you read the post i was quoting? By the time they fought the second time Mirko was already an accomplished mma fighter.

and bj isn't?

On July 26 2008 15:07 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On July 26 2008 10:09 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 26 2008 09:29 KeanuReaver wrote: reminds me of all the people thinking wandy would beat mirko mirko might be the more accomplished kickboxer but this is EM EM AYY! as i've said to fox when we discuss mma, i love how guys like bj show the difference between great and top class aoki is a great grappler, bj is top class...if they fight, bj will display this. and seriously "jits" is just a horrible term. don't ever use it. it's brazilian jiu jitsu or bjj, not "jits". i feel dirty even just typing it out. yes it is MMA, and the match was actually a draw. And picking on words, thats just being a dick. they fought twice you know... and i kind of like calling it jits :O

this hurts my soul