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"i can't use it"

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On July 27 2008 09:01 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On July 27 2008 03:04 SfydjkLm wrote:   On July 26 2008 21:46 KeanuReaver wrote: meh, i get the whole adaption thing the reason why nog beat werdum is because nog is a much more well rounded mma fighter. it happens all the time in mma too when two fighters with similar styles fight it's often their secondary skills that determine who wins and is a major reason why when two standup fighters or two ground fighters fight, it's often the inferior one that wins. nog is inferior to werdum on the ground, that's just how it is...but he's got much better standup and excellent judo so he's able to win. when mirko first fought silva, silva was the inferior striker, but wandy's ground skills and his ability to keep mirko defensive lead to a draw that should probably have been a win for wandy fast forward 4 years later, mirko is now more seasoned and able to nul wandy's secondary skills; result? wandy gets his shit pushed in. mirko didn't become a better striker, he was always better than wandy. he just got better at putting himself in position to use it. my point being, an inferior will beat a superior because he's able to take advantage of other aspects of the fight. nog's standup, wandy's ground, etc. etc. and that's the problem for aoki not only is bj the superior grappler (everything aoki can do, bj can as well. bj is far superior to aoki in holding position and...perhaps my biggest praise in an mma thread ever...bj's squeeze is almost on the same level as marcelo garcia's) but bj beats aoki in everything else as well. of course aoki could win, but there's very little room to rationalize a win for him. I really dont see how one can claim with certainty that Penn's submission game is better then Aoki's, and the position point you mentioned, well Aoki is deadly in any position really. I will reserve my final judgment and this argument for when this match finally comes to be. There can be little behind this other then speculation right now. Just remember ill be open for bets aoki is just flashier. its like saying one of the harlem globetrotters is a better basketball player than michael jordan. actually no its like saying one of the harlem globetrotters can cut through a defense better than lebron james.

I actually do BJJ and Judo mate, id like to think im capable of seeing the difference^_^

so do all of us

keanu is a blue or purple belt, mockturtle got his blue belt a couple months ago, fox has been training grappling/mma for a while, myself/naz/mig/pooruser have some bjj experience from this summer and ive started taking more classes now

but if you dont know, you talking with people who all have bjj experience and all of us adore aoki. hes def one of my favorite fighters and i have the highest respect for his grappling skills, and i think keanu/fox feel the same way. a lot of it is just opinion, and saying whether or not aoki or bj is better on the ground is pretty trivial. but in an mma match bj just has way more skills than shinya does and should win pretty easily. obv aoki has a chance to catch a sub but bj def has a huge huge edge