TenBagger United States. Jul 25 2008 12:54. Posts 2018
On July 25 2008 11:15 Daut wrote:
its definitely possible that fedor isnt the best overall p4p fighter. it could be the case that bj, gsp and anderson are all better than him and hes 4th best. it could be the case the heavyweight division is much weaker than all the others and hes probably something like the 3rd best fighter in any other division. but its definitely the most likely case that fedor is one of if not the best overall fighter in the history of the sport.
well put daut. this statement IMO shows the difference between daut and bigbb in this argument. bigbb is being stubborn with blinders on, and refuses to consider other points. daut, although he believes fedor is the best p4p at least considers other opinions and is engaging in a logical discussion.
On July 25 2008 11:15 Daut wrote:
its definitely possible that fedor isnt the best overall p4p fighter. it could be the case that bj, gsp and anderson are all better than him and hes 4th best. it could be the case the heavyweight division is much weaker than all the others and hes probably something like the 3rd best fighter in any other division. but its definitely the most likely case that fedor is one of if not the best overall fighter in the history of the sport.
well put daut. this statement IMO shows the difference between daut and bigbb in this argument. bigbb is being stubborn with blinders on, and refuses to consider other points. daut, although he believes fedor is the best p4p at least considers other opinions and is engaging in a logical discussion.
I think you need to re-read the entire thread. It starts with me making a statement, getting massively ad hominem flamed, defending my point, using logical analogies, admitting that I could be wrong and only time will tell, then a guy writing a post/novel arguing about lasers and Babe Ruth. But yeah, when Daut simply restates his position, he's brilliantly made an undefeatable argument.
On July 25 2008 11:15 Daut wrote:
its definitely possible that fedor isnt the best overall p4p fighter. it could be the case that bj, gsp and anderson are all better than him and hes 4th best. it could be the case the heavyweight division is much weaker than all the others and hes probably something like the 3rd best fighter in any other division. but its definitely the most likely case that fedor is one of if not the best overall fighter in the history of the sport.
well put daut. this statement IMO shows the difference between daut and bigbb in this argument. bigbb is being stubborn with blinders on, and refuses to consider other points. daut, although he believes fedor is the best p4p at least considers other opinions and is engaging in a logical discussion.
I think you need to re-read the entire thread. It starts with me talking nonsense, getting told i was wrong, defending my made up fairy tale, using irrelevant illogical absurdities, admitting that I could be wrong and only time will tell
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
On July 25 2008 11:15 Daut wrote:
its definitely possible that fedor isnt the best overall p4p fighter. it could be the case that bj, gsp and anderson are all better than him and hes 4th best. it could be the case the heavyweight division is much weaker than all the others and hes probably something like the 3rd best fighter in any other division. but its definitely the most likely case that fedor is one of if not the best overall fighter in the history of the sport.
well put daut. this statement IMO shows the difference between daut and bigbb in this argument. bigbb is being stubborn with blinders on, and refuses to consider other points. daut, although he believes fedor is the best p4p at least considers other opinions and is engaging in a logical discussion.
I think you need to re-read the entire thread. It starts with me talking nonsense, getting told i was wrong, defending my made up fairy tale, using irrelevant illogical absurdities, admitting that I could be wrong and only time will tell
On July 25 2008 13:04 Fox wrote:
bigbb3 i'd like you to respond to my post plz. I haven't been insulting have i?
No you haven't, sorry I missed your post; it got lost in all the people who I shouldn't be responding to. I'll PM you and we can go from there because the rest of the people in this thread aren't the type I'm interested in talking to. Others: done with this thread, PM if you care to actually discuss and think you have the class to do so without resorting to ad hominems.
they see me trollin, they hatin
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Stim_Abuser United States. Jul 25 2008 14:26. Posts 7499
fedor has never lost a single round in MMA excluding the cut thing which no one counts.
Hey Im slinging mad volume and fat stackin benjies I dont got time for spellin n shit - skinny pete
oh gawd
is this becoming another internet drama thread?
I was just going to skim through and see if someone hooked me up with a site/server/something to get me up to speed w/ MMA and it looks like this thread is also turning gay so someone plz PM me a good solid site to watch these matches or get updates from?
thx
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action.
no offense to anyone I just don't wanna sift through pages of bs I'm to cool for school and totally above you - your an idiot etcetc to see if someone replied
and if that's not whats goin on srry
I didn't read the details
The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action.
On July 25 2008 12:12 Daut wrote:
nope, just stating some facts. being objective
You aren't worth the ban. And none of you who insult me because you've got nothing else to say aren't worth my time.
awwww the poor wittle baby getting angry. so sorry to insult you little master sensitive
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
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NotSorry United States. Jul 25 2008 16:37. Posts 2603
On July 25 2008 01:04 Daut wrote:
if fedor didnt cut or if it wasnt possible to stop the fight cause of a cut i think the true odds would be higher (like 85% win for fedor) but you never know in mma, random shit happens all the time
so how much we betting?
Well the fight is still along ways off so I'll contact you closer to the date, I'm kind of poor so probably only like 1-2k
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.
Haha i read the entire thread as well, and although i know it's about MMA - Mixed Martial Arts, i don't understand much of it either. I know Fedor is one awesome fighter, seen some vids of him before, but who did he beat? Noone mentioned this as far as i know, and are there any vids of the match?
Personally, i do follow K1 but not MMA, it's not that i don't like it, just that i don't know it that well. Alright, i must add that i don't like the ground fights that much, they're just a lot less spectacular, and locks or submissions or whatever you call em are skillful but not as awesome to watch as knockouts...
I did a search for Fedor vs Randy and found this awesome vid:
On July 25 2008 00:23 Daut wrote:
aoki would never ever ever ever beat bj penn in a billion trillion years.
hansen/alvarez/jz/gomi have a chance with probably an A game gomi having the best shot. aoki is just totally outclassed vs bj. no way he would ever submit him, his striking is nonexistant and bj has insane takedown defense and better takedowns.
this coming from possibly aoki's biggest mancrush. god <3 aoki such a hero, only a real man can attempt a kneebar, an ankle lock, a triangle, a gogo, an armbar and a RNC in a 2 round fight.
if this match ever came to fruition holla at me for a bet^^
Aoki by decision is what i believe in, its gonna go the same way Calvancates match went, and if Calvan couldnt knock Aoki out Penn wont either. And ye i believe Hansen loss was a fluke, perhaps caused by fatigue of two matches in a row.
On July 25 2008 16:18 aseq wrote:
Haha i read the entire thread as well, and although i know it's about MMA - Mixed Martial Arts, i don't understand much of it either. I know Fedor is one awesome fighter, seen some vids of him before, but who did he beat? Noone mentioned this as far as i know, and are there any vids of the match?
Personally, i do follow K1 but not MMA, it's not that i don't like it, just that i don't know it that well. Alright, i must add that i don't like the ground fights that much, they're just a lot less spectacular, and locks or submissions or whatever you call em are skillful but not as awesome to watch as knockouts...
I did a search for Fedor vs Randy and found this awesome vid:
fedor has beaten a lot of top HWs
his GNP is a better highlight real then chuck lidell's imo.
On July 25 2008 06:09 bigbb33 wrote:
Oh and Fedor wrecking Nogeira bumps him up, had forgotten that.
Why would anyone argue witha guy who forgot that Fedor has beaten Nog?
EPIC LULZ.
*wink wink*
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KeanuReaver United States. Jul 25 2008 19:33. Posts 2022
A. silva's lack of success in pride kind of annoys me. Yes he lost twice to two mediocre fighters but both cases were some of the slickest submissions you'll ever see. outside of that anderson silva's record is excellent despite being in the worst division in mma (he can't really help that though) and he's been extremely impressive in his wins.
I can't condone kid hate. His record isn't anywhere near as impressive as many others but that isn't something he can help...he's beaten everyone he's faced except for one bs cut (and there are some pretty impressive wins there too) fighting AT LEAST two divisions above his natural weight class. I understand on any realistic success/competition ranking he's not going to find a spot but if you know his credentials and seen his fights it's hard to deny he isn't one of the greatest fighters ever. the guy is basically sean sherk if sean sherk was a better wrestler, had near K-1 calibur striking (with nuclear missles for hands), and would absolutely horrify people from top position instead of just wear them out and bleed on them (ps there's an unbeatable fighter hybrid, sean sherk + aids).
with bj, i really think hansen has a great shot at beating him as hansen is just so good at neutralizing whatever his opponent does best. i also agree gomi on his A-game has a great shot too, as does mach on his A-game (which btw would be an absolutely unreal matchup). i don't think aoki will be able to do what he's done in the past to bj, i don't want to bring up aoki's bjj match vs garcia since he was so young (and he was facing garcia who's pretty much fedor in the grappling world) but a young and green bj penn won the 2nd most prestigious grappling event in the world...and comparing bj to jz or hansen is a little ridiculous. both jz and hansen are great grapplers but nowhere even remotely near bj's level.
and the endurance required for MMA, which has actions like punching and kicking bone and muscle with 1000-2500 PSI. - Taco
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