i feel like flash is likely going to be about 40% vs soma. and 50/50 vs a larva final and 40% vs queen.
its definitely possible that flash could take it which is what im rooting for.
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PoorUser   United States. Oct 28 2020 02:35. Posts 7471
lol at however betting sites try to set the line on flash vs soma
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 28 2020 09:53. Posts 9634
On October 28 2020 01:35 PoorUser wrote:
lol at however betting sites try to set the line on flash vs soma
Any betting sites open to Europeans for BW? Thought Pinnacle would have it but they don't
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Daut   United States. Oct 29 2020 07:14. Posts 8955
b07, Flash -182 Soma +135
I disagree with it. These maps are strong for zerg, and also kind of strong against random (free expansions, easy to block ramps, semi island map, 2 player map). But that's a lot of vig too, and obviously Flash can pull some surprises out with P or Z and is a large favorite with T. IDK, I still think it's close to a flip but leaning Soma.
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captainhook   Canada. Oct 29 2020 09:33. Posts 466
On October 29 2020 06:14 Daut wrote:
b07, Flash -182 Soma +135
I disagree with it. These maps are strong for zerg, and also kind of strong against random (free expansions, easy to block ramps, semi island map, 2 player map). But that's a lot of vig too, and obviously Flash can pull some surprises out with P or Z and is a large favorite with T. IDK, I still think it's close to a flip but leaning Soma.
What do you think the exact wins - losses for Soma would be? There's a book that's laying +560 or so for Soma to win 4 - 3, 4 - 2.
If Soma wins this, I think Flash could win at least two games in the series... Dunno.
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captainhook   Canada. Oct 29 2020 09:35. Posts 466
Question for the zerg players: does the Benzene triple hatch build Flash did hold against an 11 pool? It actually seemed like he would get the sunken up quicker than expected, but obv loses immediately to 9 or earlier pool.
Agree though, underwhelming series overall. I had volume off, but wasn't sure Flash canceled his nexus before Soma lings took it down on Ringing Bloom. The game with drops was awesome, really nicely done dmatrix on the dropships and attack both 3rd and main. Seems like Soma was expecting a slow tank push on his natural and thought he would have ultra/crack/swarm in time to stop it, but wasn't expecting Flash's idea. Just love watching Flash play TvZ so much, he's so much more active than Light, at the cost of some efficiency, but it's more fun.
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Question for the zerg players: does the Benzene triple hatch build Flash did hold against an 11 pool? It actually seemed like he would get the sunken up quicker than expected, but obv loses immediately to 9 or earlier pool.
Agree though, underwhelming series overall. I had volume off, but wasn't sure Flash canceled his nexus before Soma lings took it down on Ringing Bloom. The game with drops was awesome, really nicely done dmatrix on the dropships and attack both 3rd and main. Seems like Soma was expecting a slow tank push on his natural and thought he would have ultra/crack/swarm in time to stop it, but wasn't expecting Flash's idea. Just love watching Flash play TvZ so much, he's so much more active than Light, at the cost of some efficiency, but it's more fun.
I've never done any build like Flash did so I'm not sure how the timings pan out, but I imagine especially on a map like Benzene with super large rush distances it would be fine vs 11 or 12 pool. He was probably edging his bets, figuring an advantage vs 12 hatch expansion or 11/12 pool builds which are somewhat common vs random and just praying no 9 pool.
Not a surprising result between Queen and Larva today. Queen is the best in the world at ZvZ, and the rock-paper-scissors elements were in Queen's favour today. Soma is 2nd best ZvZ in the world at the moment imo so the final will probably be closer than todays games unless one player gets a significant break in fortune in rock-paper-scissors
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 02 2020 17:19. Posts 9634
For some reason I cannot post a link of Queen vs Larva without the timer being at the last game even though I've removed all the parameters .... anyway game is up
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Daut   United States. Nov 02 2020 23:04. Posts 8955
Midian, is the edge in ZvZ smaller than other matchups? Just pulling numbers out of my ass, but I'd venture a guess that a 2500 Terran is just about 0% to beat a 2750 Protoss. Is that also true for ZvZ? It did seem like in the past Soulkey and Larva were constantly losing important ZvZ in tournaments to guys like Action and failing to win even though they were stronger ZvP and ZvT players, but I can't shake the RPS type feel of the matchup that makes it seem like more of a flip.
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captainhook   Canada. Nov 03 2020 05:36. Posts 466