Wardrobe help

Anything j crew or banana

On August 07 2012 01:18 patti wrote: Anything j crew or banana

i dont think you realize how retarded i am when it comes to this stuff. if i walk into j crew i will walk around for hours and find 1 thing i like and then get home and it will feel weird and ill probably never wear it. i need pictures of things

that last pair of black shorts works imo

- Don't wear those board shorts and basketball shorts, unless you're going swimming or playing basketball.
- The 3rd pair of shorts are nice, just get a few more pair of those of different colors and patterns, don't get stuck in that black pattern, which is usually the most comfortable for guys to wear.
- Revamp your entire wardrobe to where you can look at all your clothes and say "damn, I look good". This consists of adding clothes little by little over time, and having at least 4 different websites saved in your Bookmarks that you check out regularly and have those stores email you every time a new sale starts.
- Don't buy a lot of clothes at one time that are of a certain style, you'll get owned when the trends change, like the Ed Hardy crap you mentioned already.
- Don't have a "favorite" outfit, that's something that you should grow out of after you graduate from high school.
- Don't be afraid to try stuff on, don't buy something just because it looks good, because you're probably seeing it look good on someone else, and might not be right for you. Once you have a sizable wardrobe of at least 15 different tops (not t-shirts), you will be able to eyeball tops and pick and choose items pretty quick.
- When you are buying items online, bookmark all of the items you want to buy, then wait at least 2 days and look at them again, you will end up saving a lot of money on clothes you don't buy on impulse.
- Get accustom to the different seasons and when the clothes come in and out of your favorite stores, this will allow you to buy some nice product on discount and also prepare you to not spend so much money at a certain time so you can get the new Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter line that is coming out soon.
- My favorite store to shop at for jeans is Guess. They always have good online/in-store sales, bonus program if you sign up for a Guess-card, and always have good looking girls working at the stores. My favorite thing to shop for at Guess are the jeans and seasonal long sleeve non-collared shirts, the shirts with collars are usually over priced. The jeans are between $100 - $130.
- In USA, I get more dressy shirts from Express, since they always have good deals on them.
- I almost forgot to add the biggest point of them all, KNOW YOUR SHIRT SIZE!!! Men look so fucking ridiculous when they don't know their shirt size or something similar to their shirt size, since most guys don't pay to have their shirts altered/fitted for them. Once you start wearing fitted shirts, you'll notice how retarded guys look with a bunch of extra fabric on their arms and on their back puffed out as they walk. There's fitted shirts you can buy, which are decent once you know your size, but it's best to pay someone to alter them for you, it's so worth it.
- There's websites where you can buy inexpensive shirts that get mailed to you in your exact size, you just have to know all of your measurements.
- In the end, it all depends on how much money you're looking to spend on clothes. If you want to actually be fashionable, it will cost you. The steps/items I listed above is a great place for you to start, which can then lead you into more creative ideas that will cost you more money to put outfits together, and this doesn't even include the super expensive brands that are a whole other story.

These are just some ideas I thought of real quick, lemme know if you have any other questions.

Always remember this: "If you stay ready, you don't got to get ready." - Suga Free

why do anything if you have a girlfriend? you are already in. dont have to fuck about with this fashion bs

Pretty solid post by PuortoRican. Although I disagree on the favorite outfit, fuck that I still have that :D

If you're looking for alternative ways to dress while being able to treat the clothes as pajamas, it won't happen. I think best place to start would be with plain v-neck shirts with nice jeans, loafers, casual shoes or even sneakers for days you don't want to think. It'll be nice to have couple belts that can go with your shoes. I would recommend starting with v-neck shirts that is more fit around the neck. Looser ones can make you look too fat, skinny or bummed out. Ones that are loose on the neck only works if you're spending lot of time at the gym. You can find these at jcrew, saks fifth or basically any A list clothing store.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6PlBi_Umtrs...+T-shirt+www.tmart.in+Zac+Effron6.jpg

As for everyday wear - us guys only have t-shirt, polos, henley and long sleeved shirt(button up) that works for us. One of the not to do list is wearing short sleeved shirts. You don't do this period. If it's hot outside, you wear a shirt(button up) and roll the sleeves up.

You should buy some henleys too if you are looking for comfortable clothes to wear. V-neck shirts and henleys pretty much go with anything. You can throw in a blazer or a cardigan on top and u'll look fresh to head out at night. Even a nice hoodie works as well.

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http://www.uniqlo.com

anything there is cheap, super comfortable and fashionably updated with the times. no fucking brand names plastered all over the garments A+ fabric. made in japan but i think they have stores in the U.S.
you're welcome

Easiest thing to do is find someone among your non-internet friends, who is a lot into fashion. A lot of girls are, so it shouldnt be that difficult. Then just ask them for help, they will most likely help you eagerly, because they like to do this (fashion and going shopping, even if it is not for them).

Or if u really wanna do it yourself, dont ask internet guys like us, go through fashion bullshit magazines and stuff, dont read the crap just check the pictures and find several with outfits that you like, print it out, go to shops with similar wear, show the shop assistant the pictures and let them help you.

On August 07 2012 01:10 Daut wrote: i basically dress like a 15 year old

+1
no need to change

ask any of your friends who seem to care about clothing and look good to help you
they can go to clothing stores with you so you can actually see what clothes look well on you
better than depending on LP

On August 07 2012 02:48 whamm! wrote: http://www.uniqlo.com anything there is cheap, super comfortable and fashionably updated with the times. no fucking brand names plastered all over the garments A+ fabric. made in japan but i think they have stores in the U.S. you're welcome

They only have a shop in New York. Don't even think they opened the one in California. And they still don't have an online store. Believe me I love this brand.

Basic pointers:

- Fit is everything. You can pay $200 for a nice shirt, if it's too big (not just the size, but the general cut) it won't work. This is by far the most important thing in menswear.

- You don't have to be adventurous or be "in style", you have to feel good about yourself. Don't wear skinny jeans because GQ tells people to, don't wear Clark's Desert Boots because r/MFA (reddit) tells you to. Find a style you feel comfortable with, and stick with it. Having a "uniform" isn't a bad thing for guys if it looks good. You'll overtime change/improve your own style.

- On trousers. In the online men's style community everyone will only talk about raw denim. Raw denim is dark, unwashed denim that will age over time. I personally only wear raw denim. Another common option is chinos. The most important part is the fit. If it's bunching up at your feet, get it hemmed. If it's too loose around your calves, but another pair. You don't want it to be skin tight, but you do want it fitted. It isn't for "fashion", it just looks better. I freaking love denim, if you want to know some affordable brands/models, ask! I'm currently wearing a pair of Tellason Ladbroke Grove's

All those shorts you've posted look quite immature to me. If you see any sort of prints on it (letters or logos) you'll want to avoid them. If you want to start easy wearing nicer shorts, get a pair of plain navy shorts that end right above your knee (like this) . If you have thin legs, a slight taper (slim fit) would help. But the most important part is the length. If it's too long (like boardshorts) they'll make you look disproportionate and thus unflattering.

- Shoes. Leather shoes aren't for everyone. If you want to wear sneakers, I'd advice you to buy something easy and classic. I personally like white Vans Authentics (looks great under navy shorts without showing socks!). Converse Jack Purcell's and Superga's work too. Just look them up and see what you like. If you want to wear leather shoes, Clark's Desert Boots (preferably in beeswax) is the easiest to pull off and quite affordable. They look good under denim and chinos.. but not under shorts!

- Shirts. I only wear sportshirts. By that I mean "dress shirts" that aren't supposed to be under a suit. They are made with more casual looking fabrics. I always tuck my shirts in too. If you have the money to spend, my favorite sport shirts are by Gitman Vintage. They are made in the US, with great fits and fantastic fabrics. If you have less to spend. Brooks Brother's extra-slimfit sport shirts are great, and J. Crew is known for their cool sport shirts too. Some examples from J. Crew: 1, 2, 3.

Now, the absolute most important part about the shirt is again, the fit. A well fitting shirt isn't what you see in GQ where everything is skin tight (they pin it from behind anyway), but it also should never billow. There are a lot of guides online telling you how a shirt should fit, look it up, and try to get a feel for it. It, again, is the absolute most important part of your clothing.

Since you want pictures, you should check out some men's style blogs. What I want you to mainly look at is the fit. Some blogs:

Put This On: www.PutThisOn.com - more of a classical style (a lot of suits), but also other very valid information. Their webseries is really good too
Midwestyle: www.TheMidwestyle.com - I really like their personal styles, great fits and a good source of "real world" inspiration
The Styleblogger: www.TheStyleblogger.com - a bit too fashion-forward for my taste, dont always like his fits but there are some good ones

If you like like forums. www.Styleforum.net is my favorite. Note that you'll be getting an expensive taste after spending a couple of hours there...

If you are serious about looking awesome, send me a PM with a photo of yourself with your favorite and/or daily outfit, I'll probably be able to help you much better that way!

Some quality posts in here.

you don't have to be fashion expert to dress nice
wearing those basketball shorts and jiujitsu tshirts all the time is realy lame
I train bjj and beside manto shorts that I wear exclusievly when I roll... I hate any weardrobe that is bjj/mma/poker/gaming related
it's just terrible taste to wear it and you look like one of those "wannabe" egoistic tards that are trying realy hard to be part of something they are not
I saw some realy cool bjj tshirts that are somewhere descrete but even them I would avoid

simple advice... find some friends that are folowing the fashion
do some googling and just find what do you like and what should you wear

also in all of this big shops you have guys/girls that are working there and they will help you a lot if you are realy clueless
looks also what type of combinations they put on mannequin in stores and get some idea what's "in" and what's not
and yea you have try things first so you can now what fits you and what not.. so fuck internet for this things
even shoes sometimes look ugly when you hold them but when you wear them they are actualy nice on your feet

Since I won two buy-ins while writing my last reply, I'll just go ahead and post some more general advice :D

On combining colors (which isn't quite as important as fit!), if you don't have an eye for it (it's something you can develop, but some people just... can't), keep it easy. Navy navy navy. Navy looks good with other blues, red, white, brown, purple, tan, orange, pink... virtually everything. It's that easy. That's also why pair of dark raw denim always works.

I've touched on it before but generally, anything with words/logos look juvenile. That includes brand names and big logos. Really small logos (like the Polo Ralph Lauren horse) are acceptable, but I personally don't wear that either. If you want to look stylish in a t-shirt, get a slim fit solid v-neck t-shirt, or maybe (my fav.) a pocket t-shirt. Can't say it enough times, make sure it fits nice n slim.

As basic as it is, a well-fitted pocket t-shirt, navy shorts and white Vans Authentics (no show socks!) will already put you miles ahead of most guys.

By the way, I barely wear shorts, I only wear them if it gets really really hot. I personally prefer light chinos in the summer days as I think they look more mature. Having that said, there is nothing wrong with shorts if that's what you prefer.

Hey, I don't know a lot about Fashion, but I did what I usually do when I ponder on things....


I start searching on the internet lol!!

There seem to be a pretty big sub reddit on Male Fashion Advice on reddit. Over 122k subscribers!!


How Clothes Should Fit: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionad...hrtv/shujins_comprehensive_fit_guide/


Matching Colors: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionad..._epicviking_teaches_you_how_to_match/


The Basic Wardrobe: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/mu2zu/the_basic_wardrobe_30/


Common Style Acronyms: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/srukc/acronyms/

find what fits your body type and height.
colors matching with skin tone is nice, but girls dont really care about that, only fags
+1 on not wearing ed hardy and any MMA being douchewear, along with any brand faggetry plastered in front
keep attire simple, clean and comfortable. and shop at gap, banana rep and uniqlo. very basic, reasonable but nice.

Maybe it's because I live in a hot area of Brazil, but I'd feel like a sir wearing any of the Outerwear stuff

As someone who use to dress like a 15 year old and forced myself to expand my wardrobe, I can tell you it's all about what you feel comfortable with. I would figure out a basic style, go to an outlet mall with your GF, and try everything on that fits those parameters. I now mostly wear gym clothes (nike/sports gear) with nice sneakers as my daily standard. When I get semi-dressed up, I just go with a nice pair of jeans (check out lucky brand), a polo tee link/and or something like it, and a nice pair of shoes. I also love Lacoste polos and wear them quite frequently. But like I said, it's all about what's comfortable for you and we can only give you ideas. You really need to go to an outlet mall and try everything on until you find what you really like. It took me a 7 hour trip to finally figure out what I liked to wear.

Whamm, last chapter I read in the Thinking Fast And Slow book juuuust said some shit about physical apperance, and that it really DOES matter, the only difference is that some people pretend it doesn't matter, or lie to themself. The brain will "like/dislike" someone because of their apperance, be it looks, clothing wether we want to or not, even if it's not distributed to our consciousness!!

So in a sense, you could say that we're all fags!!

On August 07 2012 02:09 AndrewSong wrote: If you're looking for alternative ways to dress while being able to treat the clothes as pajamas, it won't happen. I think best place to start would be with plain v-neck shirts with nice jeans, loafers, casual shoes or even sneakers for days you don't want to think. It'll be nice to have couple belts that can go with your shoes. I would recommend starting with v-neck shirts that is more fit around the neck. Looser ones can make you look too fat, skinny or bummed out. Ones that are loose on the neck only works if you're spending lot of time at the gym. You can find these at jcrew, saks fifth or basically any A list clothing store. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6PlBi_Umtrs...+T-shirt+www.tmart.in+Zac+Effron6.jpg As for everyday wear - us guys only have t-shirt, polos, henley and long sleeved shirt(button up) that works for us. One of the not to do list is wearing short sleeved shirts. You don't do this period. If it's hot outside, you wear a shirt(button up) and roll the sleeves up. You should buy some henleys too if you are looking for comfortable clothes to wear. V-neck shirts and henleys pretty much go with anything. You can throw in a blazer or a cardigan on top and u'll look fresh to head out at night. Even a nice hoodie works as well. http://www.details.com/blogs/daily-details/Daniel_Waldron_vertical_blog.jpg

have never heard of henleys before. see them in stores and its kinda my style. seems rugby type shirts do fit me best but id feel like im going from dressing like a 15 year old to dressing like a 19 year old college student.



i do wear a lot of plain v-neck shirts. i got them from H&M and they cost like 6 bucks lol

im also in between sizes there. the small ones "fit" well but nearly show my midriff which is super gay. and the larges are billowy which is also a no no.

guess i gotta get more muscular to grow into em

American guys giving fashion tips.
Brilliant.

On August 07 2012 01:37 PuertoRican wrote: - Don't wear those board shorts and basketball shorts, unless you're going swimming or playing basketball. - The 3rd pair of shorts are nice, just get a few more pair of those of different colors and patterns, don't get stuck in that black pattern, which is usually the most comfortable for guys to wear. - Revamp your entire wardrobe to where you can look at all your clothes and say "damn, I look good". This consists of adding clothes little by little over time, and having at least 4 different websites saved in your Bookmarks that you check out regularly and have those stores email you every time a new sale starts. - Don't buy a lot of clothes at one time that are of a certain style, you'll get owned when the trends change, like the Ed Hardy crap you mentioned already. - Don't have a "favorite" outfit, that's something that you should grow out of after you graduate from high school. - Don't be afraid to try stuff on, don't buy something just because it looks good, because you're probably seeing it look good on someone else, and might not be right for you. Once you have a sizable wardrobe of at least 15 different tops (not t-shirts), you will be able to eyeball tops and pick and choose items pretty quick. - When you are buying items online, bookmark all of the items you want to buy, then wait at least 2 days and look at them again, you will end up saving a lot of money on clothes you don't buy on impulse. - Get accustom to the different seasons and when the clothes come in and out of your favorite stores, this will allow you to buy some nice product on discount and also prepare you to not spend so much money at a certain time so you can get the new Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter line that is coming out soon. - My favorite store to shop at for jeans is Guess. They always have good online/in-store sales, bonus program if you sign up for a Guess-card, and always have good looking girls working at the stores. My favorite thing to shop for at Guess are the jeans and seasonal long sleeve non-collared shirts, the shirts with collars are usually over priced. The jeans are between $100 - $130. - In USA, I get more dressy shirts from Express, since they always have good deals on them. - I almost forgot to add the biggest point of them all, KNOW YOUR SHIRT SIZE!!! Men look so fucking ridiculous when they don't know their shirt size or something similar to their shirt size, since most guys don't pay to have their shirts altered/fitted for them. Once you start wearing fitted shirts, you'll notice how retarded guys look with a bunch of extra fabric on their arms and on their back puffed out as they walk. There's fitted shirts you can buy, which are decent once you know your size, but it's best to pay someone to alter them for you, it's so worth it. - There's websites where you can buy inexpensive shirts that get mailed to you in your exact size, you just have to know all of your measurements. - In the end, it all depends on how much money you're looking to spend on clothes. If you want to actually be fashionable, it will cost you. The steps/items I listed above is a great place for you to start, which can then lead you into more creative ideas that will cost you more money to put outfits together, and this doesn't even include the super expensive brands that are a whole other story. These are just some ideas I thought of real quick, lemme know if you have any other questions. Always remember this: "If you stay ready, you don't got to get ready." - Suga Free

i follow most of this advice already. when you say know your shirt size what do you mean exactly? im somewhere between M and L which blows. but yesterday i was walking around nordstrom rack and there were sizes with numbers and i got scared and walked away lol. is that what you meant?

On August 07 2012 04:44 Watkyn wrote: I'm a menswear enthusiast and also work part-time at a (high-end) menswear store as a "stylist" Basic pointers: - Fit is everything. You can pay $200 for a nice shirt, if it's too big (not just the size, but the general cut) it won't work. This is by far the most important thing in menswear. - You don't have to be adventurous or be "in style", you have to feel good about yourself. Don't wear skinny jeans because GQ tells people to, don't wear Clark's Desert Boots because r/MFA (reddit) tells you to. Find a style you feel comfortable with, and stick with it. Having a "uniform" isn't a bad thing for guys if it looks good. You'll overtime change/improve your own style. - On trousers. In the online men's style community everyone will only talk about raw denim. Raw denim is dark, unwashed denim that will age over time. I personally only wear raw denim. Another common option is chinos. The most important part is the fit. If it's bunching up at your feet, get it hemmed. If it's too loose around your calves, but another pair. You don't want it to be skin tight, but you do want it fitted. It isn't for "fashion", it just looks better. I freaking love denim, if you want to know some affordable brands/models, ask! I'm currently wearing a pair of Tellason Ladbroke Grove's All those shorts you've posted look quite immature to me. If you see any sort of prints on it (letters or logos) you'll want to avoid them. If you want to start easy wearing nicer shorts, get a pair of plain navy shorts that end right above your knee (like this) . If you have thin legs, a slight taper (slim fit) would help. But the most important part is the length. If it's too long (like boardshorts) they'll make you look disproportionate and thus unflattering. - Shoes. Leather shoes aren't for everyone. If you want to wear sneakers, I'd advice you to buy something easy and classic. I personally like white Vans Authentics (looks great under navy shorts without showing socks!). Converse Jack Purcell's and Superga's work too. Just look them up and see what you like. If you want to wear leather shoes, Clark's Desert Boots (preferably in beeswax) is the easiest to pull off and quite affordable. They look good under denim and chinos.. but not under shorts! - Shirts. I only wear sportshirts. By that I mean "dress shirts" that aren't supposed to be under a suit. They are made with more casual looking fabrics. I always tuck my shirts in too. If you have the money to spend, my favorite sport shirts are by Gitman Vintage. They are made in the US, with great fits and fantastic fabrics. If you have less to spend. Brooks Brother's extra-slimfit sport shirts are great, and J. Crew is known for their cool sport shirts too. Some examples from J. Crew: 1, 2, 3. Now, the absolute most important part about the shirt is again, the fit. A well fitting shirt isn't what you see in GQ where everything is skin tight (they pin it from behind anyway), but it also should never billow. There are a lot of guides online telling you how a shirt should fit, look it up, and try to get a feel for it. It, again, is the absolute most important part of your clothing. Since you want pictures, you should check out some men's style blogs. What I want you to mainly look at is the fit. Some blogs: Put This On: www.PutThisOn.com - more of a classical style (a lot of suits), but also other very valid information. Their webseries is really good too Midwestyle: www.TheMidwestyle.com - I really like their personal styles, great fits and a good source of "real world" inspiration The Styleblogger: www.TheStyleblogger.com - a bit too fashion-forward for my taste, dont always like his fits but there are some good ones If you like like forums. www.Styleforum.net is my favorite. Note that you'll be getting an expensive taste after spending a couple of hours there... If you are serious about looking awesome, send me a PM with a photo of yourself with your favorite and/or daily outfit, I'll probably be able to help you much better that way!

solid post. one comment on the j crew shirts: i think the plaid style for shirts is really fucking lame. invariably it either makes someone look like a skateboarder or a huge nerd wearing them. those shirts are not really plaid but are kinda plaid. the 3rd one is really cool though, the pencil lined shirt is much more my style

ill go through those blogs too

On August 07 2012 02:11 byrnesam wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://thefaggotstore.org/ http://boards.4chan.org/fa/

some of this advice is really good. some of the advice isnt my style at all though. the stuff that business casual guy is wearing is stuff i would never feel comfortable in. def gonna scroll through some of the other things on those pictures though

On August 07 2012 05:44 morph1 wrote: you don't have to be fashion expert to dress nice wearing those basketball shorts and jiujitsu tshirts all the time is realy lame I train bjj and beside manto shorts that I wear exclusievly when I roll... I hate any weardrobe that is bjj/mma/poker/gaming related it's just terrible taste to wear it and you look like one of those "wannabe" egoistic tards that are trying realy hard to be part of something they are not I saw some realy cool bjj tshirts that are somewhere descrete but even them I would avoid simple advice... find some friends that are folowing the fashion do some googling and just find what do you like and what should you wear also in all of this big shops you have guys/girls that are working there and they will help you a lot if you are realy clueless looks also what type of combinations they put on mannequin in stores and get some idea what's "in" and what's not and yea you have try things first so you can now what fits you and what not.. so fuck internet for this things even shoes sometimes look ugly when you hold them but when you wear them they are actualy nice on your feet

i always hated guys who wear tapout shirts, affliction shirts, MMA shirts etc. the gracie ones im wearing feel a bit more subtle and ok, but youre right, wearing them out in public is still retarded.

On August 07 2012 07:09 Mariuslol wrote: Hey, I don't know a lot about Fashion, but I did what I usually do when I ponder on things.... I start searching on the internet lol!! There seem to be a pretty big sub reddit on Male Fashion Advice on reddit. Over 122k subscribers!! How Clothes Should Fit: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionad...hrtv/shujins_comprehensive_fit_guide/ Matching Colors: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionad..._epicviking_teaches_you_how_to_match/ The Basic Wardrobe: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/mu2zu/the_basic_wardrobe_30/ Common Style Acronyms: http://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/srukc/acronyms/

that color one is definitely gonna help me. going with dark grey/navy/white seems like a good basic palette.

but im kinda an in betweener on his list. i have dark hair, my eyes are sometimes brown sometimes green (change) and olive skin so sometimes im white-ish but i can get darker

it seems a lot of you guys are talking about fit and thats one of the biggest problems im having. i just fall in between sizes so frequently. i cant seem to find shirts that are just long enough and just snug enough on me. almost all of them are either too short or too billowy. and whenever i do find a shirt thats perfect it has some huge stupid emblem or design on it like the express lion.

the problem doesnt just happen with shirts its with pants too. my waist is a 33. they usually have 32 or 34 which are either too tight or falling off me.


if i wasnt so mentally challenged when it came to this stuff i would start a clothing line for the in between man where guys like me that arent medium or large and arent 32 or 34 can find shit that fits us

use lp.net clothes shop
other than that order a decent personal designer buiseness suit for major style switch

you can't go wrong with jeans(pants) + button shirt and a tshirt underneath. let the first button opened and pull the sleeves if you think you look better that way.
it's casual and confortable.
edit: and don't put the shirt inside the pants.
edit2: first or the first 2 buttons opened

just my 2 cents. I hope you understand what I meant, cause I couldn't find any image on google to show you an example and my english sucks lol

On August 07 2012 11:52 Daut wrote: it seems a lot of you guys are talking about fit and thats one of the biggest problems im having. i just fall in between sizes so frequently. i cant seem to find shirts that are just long enough and just snug enough on me. almost all of them are either too short or too billowy. and whenever i do find a shirt thats perfect it has some huge stupid emblem or design on it like the express lion. the problem doesnt just happen with shirts its with pants too. my waist is a 33. they usually have 32 or 34 which are either too tight or falling off me. if i wasnt so mentally challenged when it came to this stuff i would start a clothing line for the in between man where guys like me that arent medium or large and arent 32 or 34 can find shit that fits us

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Levi's is affordable. Their 511 fit would work for you I think. They call it skinny, but it's not, especially not with your build. You can find them everywhere, also in size 33. The 514 is the slightly less slim version if that's what you prefer.

No one is "between medium or large". Every brand is cut differently. In some brands I'm an XS, most S and occasionally an M. Your build is just very hard. J. Crew makes shirts for tall sizes. have you tried those yet? If you've found a shirt you really like but isn't slim enough, you can always bring it to the tailor.

When you're in a store, ask a sales rep what brand they have might fit your build. They know the stuff they sell and might can help you with that. Don't trust them on their style advice tho, they are there to sell stuff.

There are places online where you can get custom shirts for a very reasonable price. Measure your best fitting shirt, make the adjustments you need, send the measurements to them and they'll make it for you. It'll probably take 2 or 3 times before it's perfect, but it's a very good option. You can get the exact same custom, well-fitting shirt whenever you want. www.ModernTailor.com is probably the biggest one. I've used them a couple of times.

As for the "know your size" thing, you need to know all of the different angle sizes for your upper body, like arm lengh, shoulder, neck, chest, and waist width. I'd recommend Googling tailors/alterations in your area, you get good quality work from the Asian ladies who have businesses out of their home cuz they are basically the same people making your shirt in the first place. Once you write down your shirt dimensions, you can either order tailored shirts online or have them tailored at a local shop. Know whether or not you want to tuck in your shirt or leave it hanging out, I leave mine hanging out for non-business type shirts, which means you need to have your shirt length written down cuz you want it like 2-3 inches below your belt, enough where it wont show your back when you bend over and not too long cuz it looks sloppy.

Omg, got sick idea!!

Go lift some weights in the gym, and wear the stuff that's more on the smaller side, rather than large!!

Not only will you look more dashing (bulging out eveywhere), no more "in between" problems!!

so much great advice in this thread, watkyn knows his shit, and i would just like to stress what he's saying, cuz this is really the shit when it comes to clothes which too many men just overlook:

On August 07 2012 04:44 Watkyn wrote: - Fit is everything. You can pay $200 for a nice shirt, if it's too big (not just the size, but the general cut) it won't work. This is by far the most important thing in menswear.

either hit the gym pretty hard and put on some muscle around chest/arms or get everything tailored tbh. otherwise u are always gunna have the same issue with fit.

though if your 34inch waist shorts are too loose. get them taken in to a 33 by a tailor.

im not pro at this but i do alright, i have a very very simplistic approach.
1 or 2 pairs of casual boots / dress shoes ( on the casual side ) i snag up about 6 pairs of currently stylish jeans, right now obv boot cut is way out, but something that fits well. And then down to H&M and express and pick up about 10-15 nice dress shirts, and im pretty set. I try and do this enough that i replace everything once a year to stay up to date.

I get totally boned when it comes to wearing shorts tho, i have no idea what to do.

If you can afford it...bespoke everything

when it comes to shorts what kinda footwear do you guys recommend? sneakers and shorts look fucking retarded. flip flops and shorts are ok but its a bit unbalanced if the shorts are nice. and nice shoes with socks seem eh with shorts too. just something like penny loafers and go sockless or what?

I forgot to mention that since you're changing your entire wardrobe, you must also change your hairstyle too. Since you currently dress like a 15 year old, I'm sure your hairstyle is around that age as well.

I'd recommend finding the closest Korean hair salon in your area. Korean hair stylists keep up with the trends and are able to create things on the fly for you, as well as cutting your hair any way you want it, like if you brought in a picture they could sculpt it for you.

If you're paying under $30 for your haircut, you're probably not getting a very stylish cut.

If you're a stylish person, getting your hair cut at a barber or SuperCuts location is usually forbidden. There's some Vietnamese salons that do okay, but they usually aren't as "hip" to the latest trends and usually go off of memory for their hairstyles, which is why I like Korean salons much better.

Use Google to find Korean salons near you, then use Yelp to see what they're rated.

this thread blew up.


-i bought these jockey sweat pants, they are by far the best sweat pants i ever bought in like over 5 years. I think they are 65% polyster all black and so comfortable.
- i see those checkered shorts with two pattern colors, they are sooo ugly, i much prefer a clean denin shorts knee high, not those loose gangster ones you see with a picture on the back pocket, thats just cheese.
- recently into sleeveless shirts, casually wearing white dress shirts but folding half sleeve, i have a LA kings hat with a snake skin i think its sick but would love a matching belt someday.
- i've also been having un urge to get tatted but i dont know how that applies to the tread.

On August 07 2012 19:14 PuertoRican wrote: I forgot to mention that since you're changing your entire wardrobe, you must also change your hairstyle too. Since you currently dress like a 15 year old, I'm sure your hairstyle is around that age as well. I'd recommend finding the closest Korean hair salon in your area. Korean hair stylists keep up with the trends and are able to create things on the fly for you, as well as cutting your hair any way you want it, like if you brought in a picture they could sculpt it for you. If you're paying under $30 for your haircut, you're probably not getting a very stylish cut. If you're a stylish person, getting your hair cut at a barber or SuperCuts location is usually forbidden. There's some Vietnamese salons that do okay, but they usually aren't as "hip" to the latest trends and usually go off of memory for their hairstyles, which is why I like Korean salons much better. Use Google to find Korean salons near you, then use Yelp to see what they're rated.

i buzz my hair twice a month. not changing it

On August 07 2012 18:01 Daut wrote: when it comes to shorts what kinda footwear do you guys recommend? sneakers and shorts look fucking retarded. flip flops and shorts are ok but its a bit unbalanced if the shorts are nice. and nice shoes with socks seem eh with shorts too. just something like penny loafers and go sockless or what?

I think some sneakers (Vans Authentics, Jack Purcell's) without socks look alright under shorts. Flip flops look retarded anywhere off the beach.

On a small budget: Bass Buckingham
A little more: Herrington Suede Bucks
Baller: Alden for J. Crew suede bucks

I prefer bucks over penny loafers, but if you like them, buy one by these guys.

Also, don't actually go sockless, that's nasty. Buy no-show socks aka loafer socks.

although i think 5 would look retarded with shorts

I like Vans Authentics, and i think they look awesome with some leather laces






and heres something to aim for

nice, i learned a lot from this thread. I've pretty much been wearing the same clothes since highschool + handmedowns.

On August 08 2012 05:11 byrnesam wrote: and heres something to aim for

Since when is showing your nipples something to aim for? That can't be comfortable. Well fitting =/= tight fitting.

reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice - - - and if you then want to "mack on the ladies" in your new attire... reddit.com/r/seduction (so much +EV here)

On August 07 2012 20:30 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2012 19:14 PuertoRican wrote: I forgot to mention that since you're changing your entire wardrobe, you must also change your hairstyle too. Since you currently dress like a 15 year old, I'm sure your hairstyle is around that age as well. I'd recommend finding the closest Korean hair salon in your area. Korean hair stylists keep up with the trends and are able to create things on the fly for you, as well as cutting your hair any way you want it, like if you brought in a picture they could sculpt it for you. If you're paying under $30 for your haircut, you're probably not getting a very stylish cut. If you're a stylish person, getting your hair cut at a barber or SuperCuts location is usually forbidden. There's some Vietnamese salons that do okay, but they usually aren't as "hip" to the latest trends and usually go off of memory for their hairstyles, which is why I like Korean salons much better. Use Google to find Korean salons near you, then use Yelp to see what they're rated. i buzz my hair twice a month. not changing it

I have a fade, there is a huge difference between buzzing your own hair and getting a fade. If you like your hair cut short/buzzed go to a black/persian barber don't trust white ppl or asians to give you a fade. There is this guy in Vancouver that cuts Ice Cubes, Kanye basically any black rapper that shows up in Vancouver, he charges $25 and takes like 1 Hr giving me a fade. Basically he's a sick perfectionist and its kind of annoying to sit there for like an hour getting a hair cut. The other guy I go to takes about 30 min and only charges $15( I tip him like 5 dollars every time so really its $20) Along with cutting your hair they should line up your hair line, and you can also get them to line up/clean up any facial hair it will make a huge difference in your appearance

wut i'm wearingz rite now, bottom 2 top:

bruno magli loafers
black nike dri-fit socks
black boxerbriefs
navy blue wool dress slacks
white button down, crisp, good cotton (indian i think, collar open ofc widda sleeves rolled up)
black zip up, cotton, sleeves rolled up to juss below the elbow

if u don't like slacks in department stores go to a men's shop, middlish market and get slacks and gettem hemmed. i like a long drape, a very long drape, but that's juss me. theyre like 80 bux per. nothing for a hojillionaire baller gambl0r u spend more then that on sushi rite?

On August 08 2012 05:11 byrnesam wrote: although i think 5 would look retarded with shorts I like Vans Authentics, and i think they look awesome with some leather laces

i like #1/#2 and the vans. will def check those out and find some real short socks.

On August 08 2012 10:12 FarmMylife wrote: Show nested quote + On August 07 2012 20:30 Daut wrote:   On August 07 2012 19:14 PuertoRican wrote: I forgot to mention that since you're changing your entire wardrobe, you must also change your hairstyle too. Since you currently dress like a 15 year old, I'm sure your hairstyle is around that age as well. I'd recommend finding the closest Korean hair salon in your area. Korean hair stylists keep up with the trends and are able to create things on the fly for you, as well as cutting your hair any way you want it, like if you brought in a picture they could sculpt it for you. If you're paying under $30 for your haircut, you're probably not getting a very stylish cut. If you're a stylish person, getting your hair cut at a barber or SuperCuts location is usually forbidden. There's some Vietnamese salons that do okay, but they usually aren't as "hip" to the latest trends and usually go off of memory for their hairstyles, which is why I like Korean salons much better. Use Google to find Korean salons near you, then use Yelp to see what they're rated. i buzz my hair twice a month. not changing it I have a fade, there is a huge difference between buzzing your own hair and getting a fade. If you like your hair cut short/buzzed go to a black/persian barber don't trust white ppl or asians to give you a fade. There is this guy in Vancouver that cuts Ice Cubes, Kanye basically any black rapper that shows up in Vancouver, he charges $25 and takes like 1 Hr giving me a fade. Basically he's a sick perfectionist and its kind of annoying to sit there for like an hour getting a hair cut. The other guy I go to takes about 30 min and only charges $15( I tip him like 5 dollars every time so really its $20) Along with cutting your hair they should line up your hair line, and you can also get them to line up/clean up any facial hair it will make a huge difference in your appearance

i just go to a little mexican place down the street, say "numero uno todo bzzzzzzzzzzz" and get it buzzed cheap. takes 5 minutes, i dont have to worry about messing up and looks how i want it. dont think a fade is for me

I really liked byrnesams posts in this thread but that guys shirt is pretty terrible imo. I hate shortsleeve shirts ;X

its actaully wrist length, he just folds it. if you dont have a perfect body then it just looks bad

I bet Daut is still wearing that same hair style from when he won the carribean poker event years ago, or something very similar.

On August 08 2012 14:05 PuertoRican wrote: I bet Daut is still wearing that same hair style from when he won the carribean poker event years ago, or something very similar.

why you so obsessed with haircuts?

i used to fade the sides up to the top and get the top a number 3 back then. was much longer. i just do a number 1 all over now and keep it really short. not changing my hair i like it this way and dont like longer hair

On August 07 2012 18:01 Daut wrote: when it comes to shorts what kinda footwear do you guys recommend? sneakers and shorts look fucking retarded. flip flops and shorts are ok but its a bit unbalanced if the shorts are nice. and nice shoes with socks seem eh with shorts too. just something like penny loafers and go sockless or what?

I like deck shoes or overtly unconstructed canvas shoes with that look. basically something that will never draw attention to your feet and let the shirt be the star of your outfit.

On August 08 2012 19:21 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2012 14:05 PuertoRican wrote: I bet Daut is still wearing that same hair style from when he won the carribean poker event years ago, or something very similar. why you so obsessed with haircuts? i used to fade the sides up to the top and get the top a number 3 back then. was much longer. i just do a number 1 all over now and keep it really short. not changing my hair i like it this way and dont like longer hair

You're the one who made a thread asking people how to improve your wardrobe. You cant just improve your wardrobe and not improve your hairstyle. Hair, clothes, and shoes are all part of "the look", as well as having confidence to go along with it.

If you want to improve your outer appearance, you need to upgrade your haircut just like you're doing with your clothes. It's like seeing a girl wearing a nice dress and she didn't comb her hair.

If you buy new clothes and say to yourself "damn, I look good from head to toe", then go for it, I'm just letting you know how other people will see your outer appearance.

Also, this is all to upgrade your style, so don't feel like I'm hating on you.

who cares man, just keep rollin' like you always have

Haircut is completely fine imo.. Some people look better with really short hair.

And to people saying that shoes isn't important to the outfit etc and that the shirt draws all the attention. It's not really true.

http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/

^Ton of nice shoes here, nice brogues/loafers is mandatory for the pub/dinner/citywalks/casino and w/e you're dressing up for. It's so easy for men especially for people who doesn't have to bother about styling the hair etc. Just get well suited pants/shirts and a pair or two of nice shining shoes and you're set :D

if your girlfriend has a friend that really loves shopping and fashion and would be sincerely psyched up to help you out that is probably your best bet.

women don't really know shit about men's fashion but at the same time know everything about men's fashion (at least their taste and if they have a good eye and are honest will be spot on w/ fit/color).

asking guys about fashion is even worse b/c guys just show you what they would want to wear.

it sounds like you personally going shopping and looking around and trying shit on is like pulling teeth so you are at a disadvantage there too.

asking salesmen in the store is a crapshoot too b/c many are not good and/or are just trying to sell you anything in the store w/ complete disregard for actual good insight.

sorry i don't have much more insight than: "you are probably fighting an uphill battle until YOU sincerely want to figure shit out."

If you do. There are manuals you can read that unlike poker actually can give you some good guidelines and hacks that are pretty universal. A lot of it will just be trying shit on and finding out what works. Fit, Color, and Comfort are typically all related to each other.

For your description of build I'd try some non-regular cuts (more slim, athletic whatever "x" brand calls it) in a L in polos as well as some regular cuts in some of the slimmer fitting european designers. Fit in the shoulders is always the most important.

Shorts: Shorts imo are completely subjective and based on however the fuck you wanna roll. Again, probably just comes down to trying a bunch on and finding the ones that are it and buying those in different colors.

Shoes: Shoes are same. There are rules like never wear running shoes and shit like that. Probably not a bad rule. I don't know. I'm kinda sick of writing at this point and this post probably got kinda long.

"The goal of dressing is to not look ridiculous"

Interpret that however you want and go from there. Good Luck. Have Fun.

On August 08 2012 07:09 Stroggoz wrote: nice, i learned a lot from this thread. I've pretty much been wearing the same clothes since highschool + handmedowns.

+1

On August 08 2012 08:17 Watkyn wrote: Show nested quote + On August 08 2012 05:11 byrnesam wrote: and heres something to aim for Since when is showing your nipples something to aim for? That can't be comfortable. Well fitting =/= tight fitting.

On August 08 2012 13:58 hording wrote: I really liked byrnesams posts in this thread but that guys shirt is pretty terrible imo. I hate shortsleeve shirts ;X

For the shoes : just go in any skate shop, you'll find some vans and other brands (DC SHOES, etc)
ull find stuff like that





w/e, looks kind of clean , young but not too young, very comfortable

usually not too much expensive too

ull find alot of short like that last one you posted too

lol wtf



those shoes are fucking hideous and are guaranteed to make you look like a 14 year old.

yeah vans are ok but those arent but they are the same
lawl

You say you have difficulty finding clothes that fit you just right because you have awkward body geometry or whatever. This isnt true, you just probably arent shopping at the right places that have enough variety in clothing to fit you. Shop at Express or American Eagle and just look at some of the mannequins or pictures on the all until you see something you like, then pick that. Dont go for the one that is wearing 15 different things and looks like a GQ poster or movie star, since nobody actually really dresses like that. Go for the more subtle look, or pick a few things from it and dress it down.

And try to avoid shorts as much as possible. Most men dont wear them. If you absolutely must (and we're talking because it's so hot you cant stand pants) then settle for some khaki/golfer type shorts, that still look professional. As mentioned earlier, basketball/skater/board shorts simply make you look like those stereotypes, which isnt usually appealing.

On August 12 2012 10:42 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote: yeah vans are ok but those arent but they are the same lawl

they arent even remotely the same, the Vans are an example of something clean and simple that an adult man can get away with wearing. There are numerous other casual canvas shoes from other brands which are nicer than those Vans, but its a good example of the style.



Now look at the shoes you posted.

obnoxious giant logo on the side
bright orange colour-way on the top one
the grey is looks chunkier than a pair of Frankensteins boots

Did you even read is original post? He doesnt want to dress like a 15 year old anymore. The fact that those horrible checkered shorts can be found right next to the DCs in the same shop is a clue that you might be pointing him in the wrong direction.

Maybe you should suggest he complement this ensemble with an Affliction t-shirt.

those are all vans...ugly isnt it? oh..ok... do you think the one oy just posted is representativ of what vans do? its not

now, the first short and second he posted , he shouldnt wear taht...but the last one is perfect and you can find shit tons of those in the type of shop i mentionned -.-

here if you like it more byrne -.-


or that one-.-