Isildur1 vs Stinger!!!!!!!!!!!

Isildur is down $-2,178,634.45 according to pokertableratings

Stinger is crushing him so bad

http://www.highstakesdb.com/live-results.aspx

he is up 2.6 mil according to http://www.highstakesdb.com/live-results.aspx

jesus christ

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stinger up almost 3 mill ;0

fuck omaha...i want to see more people have the balls to take on isildur in holdem

Stinger has about 3.6 million on the tables

he is up 3.1 mil

wowow stinger crushing

stinger seems to lay quiet. probably studying his new opponents then BAM comes out of nowhere and crushes. he doesnt sit around and degen it up back and forth with monsters like ivey durrrr and antonious.

On December 08 2009 21:10 Stim_Abuser wrote: stinger seems to lay quiet. probably studying his new opponents then BAM comes out of nowhere and crushes. he doesnt sit around and degen it up back and forth with monsters like ivey durrrr and antonious.

lol stinger is the most degen of them all.

he is up 3.5 mil jesus

holy fuck I feel bad for isildur fo real

Yawn .... 3.8mill

stinger hit everytime he got it in w/ a draw while i was railing...impressive. Hopefully isil makes a hero comeback so that high stakes continues to be fun and doesn't go back to the zero action like it was for months before he came.

On December 08 2009 21:27 palak wrote: stinger hit everytime he got it in w/ a draw while i was railing...impressive. Hopefully isil makes a hero comeback so that high stakes continues to be fun and doesn't go back to the zero action like it was for months before he came.

yeah Stinger is just crushing him right now. It is true stinger has been getting in lite, not to say that isil doesnt lol. I saw two times where he binked the 4-6 outer to take down a huge pot. Stinger def wasnt getting it in good everytime. I guess ilil thinks he can win some back because he hasnt quit him yet, he just moves tables if they get too deep. I agree with everyone else he needs to just stay away from PLO and destroy people at NLH.

Isildur should stick to playing durrrr. It's the only person he seems to be able to reliably beat. Well jungleman too, but that's at 100/200.

Brian Hastings: getting very tired...
Dealer: Hand #16648979788 has been canceled
Brian Hastings: i feel bad quitting tho
Brian Hastings: would be be cool w/ playing someone else?
Isildur1: just f off
Isildur1: wåfä'qqqqqqqnhjwe4nm
Isildur1: dW
Isildur1: GFE4¨ÅN,K N,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,K3
Isildur1: Q
Isildur1: u know how lucky u are ?
Brian Hastings: yes i know
Isildur1: i can promise this is the worst
Brian Hastings: ill give you 30 more min if you want
Isildur1: luck anyone had
Brian Hastings: but im rly tired
Isildur1: k 30 mins more
Isildur1: take my last $$

Brian Hastings: i feel bad quitting tho
Brian Hastings: would be be cool w/ playing someone else?
Isildur1: just f off
Isildur1: wåfä'qqqqqqqnhjwe4nm
Isildur1: dW
Isildur1: GFE4¨ÅN,K N,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,KN,K3
Isildur1: Q
Isildur1: u know how lucky u are ?
Brian Hastings: yes i know
Isildur1: i can promise this is the worst
Brian Hastings: ill give you 30 more min if you want
Isildur1: luck anyone had
Brian Hastings: but im rly tired
Isildur1: k 30 mins more
Isildur1: take my last $$
Isildur1: i dont want it
Isildur1: ::S:S

nooooooooooooooooo

Not reloading to 100bb when up 4 million... is, uhm... maybe not in the best taste :/?

On December 08 2009 21:54 TianYuan wrote: Not reloading to 100bb when up 4 million... is, uhm... maybe not in the best taste :/?

he is tired! =)

$500/$1000 PLO HU 2,234 $3,438,068 76.95 $219 $72 Dec 8th, 2009

((((((((((((((((

Fucking Omaha

omaha is a helluva drug.
at least isil is playing the 2x happy hour

On December 08 2009 21:56 Balzamon wrote: Show nested quote + On December 08 2009 21:54 TianYuan wrote: Not reloading to 100bb when up 4 million... is, uhm... maybe not in the best taste :/? he is tired! =)

It's such a funny thing to say to someone who has been playing HU for the past 12 hours :D

On December 08 2009 22:03 whamm! wrote: omaha is a helluva drug.

Soon there'll be rehab centers, NLHE will be labeled a gateway-drug(game).

I'm not addicted tho. I can quit whenever I want!!

isildur should stick to NLH he is so good there ...
or if he is going to play omaha he should stick to playing at 200/400 or 300/600 instead of 500/1k so he can at least not have -3 million sessions that cripple his bankroll

GO SAMWISE GAMGEE! KILL ISILDURRR!

Yo dawg, I heard you like poker, so I put hole cards in yo hole cards, so you can spew your whole fuckn roll.

On December 08 2009 22:10 luddite wrote: Yo dawg, I heard you like poker, so I put hole cards in yo hole cards, so you can spew your whole fuckn roll.

Hahaha

Must be nice... (graph by PoolSide on 2p2)

damn omaha is the work of the devil man. 2mil above ev

HOLY F'ING JESUS. And um, I think he had a lot of his own action because (from HSNL):

Stinger says: Everyone who took pieces of my 500/1k action this spring, Just so there's no confusion I am taking the standing pieces off the table, I don't remember if it was supposed to be for all 500/1k or just for vs Gus but anyway my situation has changed a lot in the past 6 months and I wish to end with the standing pieces because of that. Sorry I lost you a bit of $ and thanks for understanding, I'll try to get in touch with all of you individually too although I don't have everyone's email

MBN

looks like isildur is going to quit poker. oh wells.

On December 08 2009 22:26 Zalfor wrote: looks like isildur is going to quit poker. oh wells.

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

noooooooooooooooooooooooo

jesus Stinger is up 4.1 mil

omg gooooo stinger <3 - wonder if he has all his action...?

4.3

Jesussssssssss.

Isildur GGs.

Not even busto I think, but pretty close. Sick.

bye bye isildur~~

wonder if hes ego ever manages to climb back after this

open thread
no hands

sad face

Busting to Hastings was probably pretty bad tho if you like railing, doubt no one will see any of theese $4mill again

why are not Townsend / CTS / Patrick / Hastings etc playing vs each other ?

well thats that

From 2+2 NVG thread on isildur1

rofl

wow from wat i see in the high stakes DB Mr. hastings is up 4.1 million in the past 24 hrs... wat in the fuck...

On December 08 2009 22:10 luddite wrote: Yo dawg, I heard you like poker, so I put hole cards in yo hole cards, so you can spew your whole fuckn roll.

Very Nice!!!

On December 08 2009 22:57 YoMeR wrote: wow from wat i see in the high stakes DB Mr. hastings is up 4.1 million in the past 24 hrs... wat in the fuck...

Thats pretty sick : P

If it is Blom90 he is probably far from busto thou (obv FTP busto). He started at 25-50 at FTP, but he was playing much higher stakes than that on Ipoker / B2B and Betfair, no way he is busto...

this has been one of the greatest high stakes games i've seen in a very long time

besides the one time that rekrul broke H@LLINGOL

Ugh

Ziigmund sits down vs PA, Brian Townsend and CTS - but nobody wants to play him. Back to normal again

Cole South: no tx gl

On December 08 2009 22:46 Balzamon wrote: bye bye isildur~~ wonder if hes ego ever manages to climb back after this

Isn't this exactly the same thing that happened 1 week ago ?

Isildur has had uh quite the year

isildur is like what 5 or 6 mil below ev now in omaha. Also this is lame everyone is now just sitting out vs each other...no more high stakes action for a long ass time if isil doesnt reload. So damn gay

this makes me feel much better about dumping away my winnings from last night! hell, at least im still in the green a tad!!

On December 08 2009 21:15 n0rthf4ce wrote: Show nested quote + On December 08 2009 21:10 Stim_Abuser wrote: stinger seems to lay quiet. probably studying his new opponents then BAM comes out of nowhere and crushes. he doesnt sit around and degen it up back and forth with monsters like ivey durrrr and antonious. lol stinger is the most degen of them all.

dude you can't make a post like this and not follow it up with at least one token anecdote lol

isildur1 isn't even that bad at omaha. which is the strangest thing.

its just that his NLH game is so much better than everyone else's. including durrrr

On December 09 2009 02:11 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On December 08 2009 21:15 n0rthf4ce wrote:   On December 08 2009 21:10 Stim_Abuser wrote: stinger seems to lay quiet. probably studying his new opponents then BAM comes out of nowhere and crushes. he doesnt sit around and degen it up back and forth with monsters like ivey durrrr and antonious. lol stinger is the most degen of them all. dude you can't make a post like this and not follow it up with at least one token anecdote lol

my thoughts exactly

lol. we're sitting there having a cardrunners meeting and talking about business stuff. stinger gets bored so...he loads up a couple of 500/1k tables vs ziigmund just to "pass the time" and proceeds to win 300k. then later on we are having lunch and stinger is bored again so he again loads up a few 500/1k tables and loses like 400k. let me remind you that this was when 500/1k was still brand spanking new and the biggest pot ever played was something like 500k or something. stinger=sickest hero degen ever, but he is an amazing plo player so he deserves this win imo, although i hate to see him win it off isildur.

also one time i see him sitting w/ 1m vs ziigmund. ziigmund is tilting his balls off in chat, stinger goes "ill give you plo lessons if you gimme watersliding lessons". LOL! i congratulate him the next day--"grats on your 1m win". him: "what win? I lost it all back"

again, sickest degen ever.

omaha is unsustainable at those big games.. omaha is a big joke at 500/1k level. such sick variance for the % of bankrolls they play with imo :O

On December 09 2009 02:46 Night2o1 wrote: omaha is unsustainable at those big games.. omaha is a big joke at 500/1k level. such sick variance for the % of bankrolls they play with imo :O

agree. but he still a good player, even tho his edge is prob $5/hand or something LOL.

: ' (

if you are complaining about no hands just go to ptr to find the big ones

Wake up and see this. Damn!

Pretty brutal ev-graph.. ehh..

nice $/hr for stinger

jesus 2.5m above EV and getting set vs set, set vs top 2

LOL at running 7 figures above EV

The sickest thing is that its not the whole match graphed, Mr. LoL an admin on HSDB just said that he will post the graph tomorrow and that its beyond SICK.

Full Tilt generator killed Isildur lol but i`m sure he`ll come back

EDIT: Nvm, graphs too huge, break page :D

Go here:
http://www.highstakesdb.com/1355-brian-hastings-wins-4m-from-isildur1.aspx

Cliffs:
Down 3 million in EV vs Hastings
Up 2 million in EV vs Townsend

guess he wasnt that unlucky then

now i officially hate Brian Hastings

strange the graphs they link to have him up 1.5m in EV vs Townsend? +700k instead of -1.2k

this is sick...how can u run THAT much over ev...wow. I hate that he won all that money off isildur...hopefully isildur will be back...or else action will suck yet again...

God I hate Omaha.

he never had to lose anything if he just stuck to hold em. Above all, he certainly never had to play till he was bust - at least just take a hard hit and come back stronger later. I know it must be hard and i cant blame him for getting the "i dont care anymore" attitude, but that is what would truly have separated isildur for every other player (imo).

im quite sure the play till you bust attitude is one of the reasons he made it to 500/1000 in these two runs

It is kinda hilarious that all the pro's are avoiding Isildur at Texas Holdem Guess they arnt really pro's.

Pride never helps, it only hurts

On December 09 2009 18:12 MayZerG wrote: It is kinda hilarious that all the pro's are avoiding Isildur at Texas Holdem Guess they arnt really pro's.

Actually, it's a clear sign that they are pros who care about their earnings and non some dick-measuring contest. If you know that you are at a disadvantage against a certain player in a certain game, why would you willingly play that person in that game? Doubt any of them hate money. Now, I am not sure how many of them believe that isildur is better than they are in NLH, so can't really say who chooses to play him and why. The bottom line is that in poker, the only meaningful measure of success is money won. It makes no sense to knowingly put yourself in situations where you stand to lose it.

On December 09 2009 16:24 Nazgul wrote: im quite sure the play till you bust attitude is one of the reasons he made it to 500/1000 in these two runs

It's also the reason he's down 4M in one session.

On December 09 2009 21:23 phexac wrote: Show nested quote + On December 09 2009 16:24 Nazgul wrote: im quite sure the play till you bust attitude is one of the reasons he made it to 500/1000 in these two runs It's also the reason he's down 4M in one session.

On December 09 2009 21:20 RaSZi wrote: Show nested quote + On December 09 2009 18:12 MayZerG wrote: It is kinda hilarious that all the pro's are avoiding Isildur at Texas Holdem Guess they arnt really pro's. I guess that makes them pros....

what is isildur then?

A degen

a degen that just happens to also be fucking sick at holdem.

On December 10 2009 03:20 YoMeR wrote: a degen that just happens to also be fucking sick at holdem.

qft

A pro should be willing to play any competition, i would rather play against someone i consider much better than me, so i can adapt and improve my game, rather than avoid him and not improve at all. Which is what durrrr is doing and has the right mindset.

Though i respect everyones opinion is different .

On December 10 2009 08:59 MayZerG wrote: A pro should be willing to play any competition, i would rather play against someone i consider much better than me, so i can adapt and improve my game, rather than avoid him and not improve at all. Which is what durrrr is doing and has the right mindset. Though i respect everyones opinion is different .

That is retarded, so you think Durrr should play anybody in HORSE? no he wont cuz he is probably a big dog on it, thats why people dodge Isildur on NLHE, all the players who thought they didnt have an edge, simple as that.

kind of high variance to sit down to a perhaps superiour player at nosebleeds to "get better".

On December 10 2009 08:59 MayZerG wrote: A pro should be willing to play any competition, i would rather play against someone i consider much better than me, so i can adapt and improve my game, rather than avoid him and not improve at all. Which is what durrrr is doing and has the right mindset. Though i respect everyones opinion is different .

Pretty much what baal said. Professionals in the business of investing don't tend to invest in things they know will most likely cost them money. Poker players are investers too, so why should they be any different? Sure, if you think playing someone better will be EV+ in the long run since you can start winning more and at higher limits later, it's a valid argument. But since the variance is so high, and the edges so small, I doubt it would be ev+ for anyone of them (If they indeed though they were a dog against him in NLHE).

On December 10 2009 08:59 MayZerG wrote: A pro should be willing to play any competition

Is this like "chips" where you brits think a word means something other than what it actually does?

I'd like some biscuits

On December 10 2009 15:03 JonnyCosMo wrote: I'd like some biscuits

Get your biscuits one dollar! One dollar get your biscuits one dollar!

On December 10 2009 08:59 MayZerG wrote: A pro should be willing to play any competition, i would rather play against someone i consider much better than me, so i can adapt and improve my game, rather than avoid him and not improve at all. Which is what durrrr is doing and has the right mindset. Though i respect everyones opinion is different .

mayzerg vs isildur

not a bad interview

yay great 3v1

On December 11 2009 09:04 Nazgul wrote: yay great 3v1

ya that sucks

I hate it more the more I think about it..

I don't get why you hate it. Expand or stop hating. Obviously most people are not in a situation where they play 5+ people on their "shot taking"-stake. But if you were, and you had two friends who did as well, why on earth wouldn't you speak to your friends? I seriously don't get it at all.

It's not that I don't 'get' it. It's somewhat understandable. Friends discussing hands. It happens.

But I'd be lying if I said it doesn't feel like injustice that isildur has to take on 3 brilliant minds by himself.

Kind of gay how those kids just stroke each other in the 3v1 attempt. I just fucking hate those kids for selling out.

On December 11 2009 18:55 Nazgul wrote: It's not that I don't 'get' it. It's somewhat understandable. Friends discussing hands. It happens. But I'd be lying if I said it doesn't feel like injustice that isildur has to take on 3 brilliant minds by himself.

I'm sure Isildur has HS friends too. It's just we don't know who they are because he isn't outted.

That was an okay interview but wow was that chick doing it terrible

Funny to hear him talk about how he was fresh and isildur has been playing for hours, I remember reading years ago some stories form Doyle about how he used to try to time his sleep to come in when other guys had been in a game for a day or so

Lol good questions in the interview, but holy crap that chick can't read or something. I think she stuttered or misread every question lol

heres a better interview
http://mediocrepokerradio.com/podcasts/

Getting home drunk and opening ftp for some high stakes railing action is fucking shit now. I'm so depressed.

isildur stay away from fucking PLO god damn it! If i was his friend i would take the laptop and throw it out the god damn window and say "STAY AWAY FROM PLO!!"

On December 12 2009 17:58 Oly wrote: Getting home drunk and opening ftp for some high stakes railing action is fucking shit now. I'm so depressed.

Yeah, same. Without the getting home drunk part.

std variance imo ^^ everyone stop jumping to conclusions hes only been around for so long... but yea he needs to stop playing marathon sessions and get a life

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/...-because-hastings-co-cheating-660411/

looks like hasting fuk himself a bit with those 3v1 comments now the backlash

That TOS rule is retardedly worded and outlawing hand discussion among friends clearly was not its intention. What they did is not cheating, just bad sportsmanship. Isildur1 let his degen nature get the best of him and they took advantage.

I don't think it outlaws hand discussion, it outlaws sharing your hand database with others

Wondering if this whole rail thread turn any of us into cheaters by that definition if we sit vs islidur1 now?

no we did not play him and share our private data, we submitted publicly available data to any observer

The second I read hastings original interview I instantly felt sick for Isi realizing they teamed up hardcore and now after espn and 2+2 thread this thing is super ridiculous. I guess I should have expected it but either way, I'm glad I dont support CR by having a subscription

what do you guys think of sites allowing you to change your screen name everything month or something similar.

I think that is very good, because it is so easy to get away with new/multiple account names and smurfing. At least then you know what's up.

I think it should have been done a long time ago at all sites but something tells me it won't happen at PS anytime soon

Obviously hand discussion is fine.

But i think the way he talks about how aba spent a whole load of time drawing up ranges in certain spots and them all discussing it is pretty sick.

still, i doubt anything will happen - but i kinda hope it does just coz i wanna see some shit go down.

baleeted

On December 18 2009 03:39 byrnesam wrote: Obviously hand discussion is fine. But i think the way he talks about how aba spent a whole load of time drawing up ranges in certain spots and them all discussing it is pretty sick. still, i doubt anything will happen - but i kinda hope it does just coz i wanna see some shit go down.

wow they went into serious detail then, yeesh

seems really against the spirit of the game to go into that cooperative depth

I lost respect for BT when they found out he had multiple accounts on FTP. The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. Online is another story. Another reason i prefer live over online. If i ever had the bankroll to play HSP i would NEVER do it online b/c who knows what the fuck they are up to. I view that as cheating if 3 guys are analysing my hands. There is a rule in live poker. It's called one person to a hand. In some casinos if another player even looks at your cards your hand is automatically mucked, but online is a different story. As i've said before though Isildur didn't have to risk all that money. He just took 5-6 million off Dwan why risk all of it? At least enjoy it. After he lost 3 million he should have taken a break from poker. Sometimes in order to go forward you have to take a couple steps back. Playing long sessions has a more tendancy for someone to go on tilt. w/e what do i know i just play 1-2 hold em.

On December 20 2009 01:51 GfOrcebOnd wrote: I lost respect for BT when they found out he had multiple accounts on FTP. The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. Online is another story. Another reason i prefer live over online. If i ever had the bankroll to play HSP i would NEVER do it online b/c who knows what the fuck they are up to. I view that as cheating if 3 guys are analysing my hands. There is a rule in live poker. It's called one person to a hand. In some casinos if another player even looks at your cards your hand is automatically mucked, but online is a different story. As i've said before though Isildur didn't have to risk all that money. He just took 5-6 million off Dwan why risk all of it? At least enjoy it. After he lost 3 million he should have taken a break from poker. Sometimes in order to go forward you have to take a couple steps back. Playing long sessions has a more tendancy for someone to go on tilt. w/e what do i know i just play 1-2 hold em.

LOLOL

On December 20 2009 01:51 GfOrcebOnd wrote: I lost respect for BT when they found out he had multiple accounts on FTP. The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. Online is another story. Another reason i prefer live over online. If i ever had the bankroll to play HSP i would NEVER do it online b/c who knows what the fuck they are up to. I view that as cheating if 3 guys are analysing my hands. There is a rule in live poker. It's called one person to a hand. In some casinos if another player even looks at your cards your hand is automatically mucked, but online is a different story. As i've said before though Isildur didn't have to risk all that money. He just took 5-6 million off Dwan why risk all of it? At least enjoy it. After he lost 3 million he should have taken a break from poker. Sometimes in order to go forward you have to take a couple steps back. Playing long sessions has a more tendancy for someone to go on tilt. w/e what do i know i just play 1-2 hold em.

rofl

On December 20 2009 01:51 GfOrcebOnd wrote: I lost respect for BT when they found out he had multiple accounts on FTP. The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. Online is another story. Another reason i prefer live over online. If i ever had the bankroll to play HSP i would NEVER do it online b/c who knows what the fuck they are up to. I view that as cheating if 3 guys are analysing my hands. There is a rule in live poker. It's called one person to a hand. In some casinos if another player even looks at your cards your hand is automatically mucked, but online is a different story. As i've said before though Isildur didn't have to risk all that money. He just took 5-6 million off Dwan why risk all of it? At least enjoy it. After he lost 3 million he should have taken a break from poker. Sometimes in order to go forward you have to take a couple steps back. Playing long sessions has a more tendancy for someone to go on tilt. w/e what do i know i just play 1-2 hold em.

this is certainly an entertaining wall of text

whoooooa

clueless guy is clueless

green star imo

On December 20 2009 01:51 GfOrcebOnd wrote: I lost respect for BT when they found out he had multiple accounts on FTP. The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. Online is another story. Another reason i prefer live over online. If i ever had the bankroll to play HSP i would NEVER do it online b/c who knows what the fuck they are up to. I view that as cheating if 3 guys are analysing my hands. There is a rule in live poker. It's called one person to a hand. In some casinos if another player even looks at your cards your hand is automatically mucked, but online is a different story. As i've said before though Isildur didn't have to risk all that money. He just took 5-6 million off Dwan why risk all of it? At least enjoy it. After he lost 3 million he should have taken a break from poker. Sometimes in order to go forward you have to take a couple steps back. Playing long sessions has a more tendancy for someone to go on tilt. w/e what do i know i just play 1-2 hold em.

Serious question. What sort of incentive would you need to (re)deposit online?

What is your guys problem?

The only thing that i said that was out of line was this

The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker.

But everytime i see him play live poker he loses. Instead of laughing like retards why don't we get into a serious discussion about why i'm the clueless the guy who is a retard on crack. I'm up for a debate.

Why did he have to open his mouth. What does he gain from telling the reporter he shared hands, i mean learn to keep your mouth shut.

On December 23 2009 00:17 GfOrcebOnd wrote: What is your guys problem? The only thing that i said that was out of line was this Show nested quote + The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. But everytime i see him play live poker he loses. Instead of laughing like retards why don't we get into a serious discussion about why i'm the clueless the guy who is a retard on crack. I'm up for a debate.

I'd explain why you're wrong but you'll just reply with some random hand that one of them played on TV or you read about that you thought was played bad, which obv. means they could never be winners at live.

On December 23 2009 00:17 GfOrcebOnd wrote: What is your guys problem? The only thing that i said that was out of line was this Show nested quote + The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. But everytime i see him play live poker he loses. Instead of laughing like retards why don't we get into a serious discussion about why i'm the clueless the guy who is a retard on crack. I'm up for a debate.

ok ill be the nice guy for a change and a good advice is to take what i say blindly because trust me, i (we) know way more than you about this game, so here it goes.

Online poker is like 10 times harder than live poker, Live is full of ridiculous fish while online has way more regulars and is much much tougher, Brian Townsend is one of the best NLHE and PLO players in the world and he would crush any live donk you might idiolize like Negranu, Phil Hellmuth or whatever random TV donk with the exeption of maybe Phil Ivey and nobody else.

So when you say Townsend or Hastings wont beat live poker, we all laugh.

The only thing that is possibly morally bad about the situation is that Isildur1 didn't know they had shared hand histories. OTOH it would be silly for them to warn him before the sessions.

dammit baal whenever someone like this shows up please say you're right live players are better then online players and they usually crush the online players online.

ffs.

Man when these guys rematch some day it's going to be NUTS. I can't even imagine the suspense and excitement.

Just proves that omaha is the devils game

Mr. Baal Townsend knows best

On December 30 2009 15:41 RaSZi wrote: Baal you are not exactly the best informed person about live poker though. There are some pretty sick players that play exclusively live. Not saying Townsend couldn't win, but live poker is a bit more evolved than the WPT DVD's you ordered. Not trying to single you out or anything, but there is no way you can have an accurate opinion about live poker lol.

I can see this being true to a degree, but the overall higher average skill of players at a given limit online vs live is definitely not up for debate. I'm sure there are a number of world class players playing live-only though.

yeah my post was more for people like GFORCEBOND and also just for me to stroke off for my own pleasure

live players are used to playing 20 to 30buyins deep.
online its usually 1 to 5bi deep
id say its a very different game and good live vs good online players are just about equal, online we shit our panties when we get over 200bbs deep oop, live they still play very well with marginal holdings. i dont see the difference how live players are so bad except for the fact that theyre just a) recreational players b) there are just too many of em out there c) they have many ways of getting info and reads thus sometimes make ridic plays

For me playing very well oop deep vs someone decent has a lot to do with not doing it very much.

On December 31 2009 23:19 whamm! wrote: live players are used to playing 20 to 30buyins deep. online its usually 1 to 5bi deep id say its a very different game and good live vs good online players are just about equal, online we shit our panties when we get over 200bbs deep oop, live they still play very well with marginal holdings. i dont see the difference how live players are so bad except for the fact that theyre just a) recreational players b) there are just too many of em out there c) they have many ways of getting info and reads thus sometimes make ridic plays

wat

On January 02 2010 12:43 Night2o1 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2009 23:19 whamm! wrote: live players are used to playing 20 to 30buyins deep. online its usually 1 to 5bi deep id say its a very different game and good live vs good online players are just about equal, online we shit our panties when we get over 200bbs deep oop, live they still play very well with marginal holdings. i dont see the difference how live players are so bad except for the fact that theyre just a) recreational players b) there are just too many of em out there c) they have many ways of getting info and reads thus sometimes make ridic plays wat

On December 30 2009 15:41 RaSZi wrote: Baal you are not exactly the best informed person about live poker though. There are some pretty sick players that play exclusively live. Not saying Townsend couldn't win, but live poker is a bit more evolved than the WPT DVD's you ordered. Not trying to single you out or anything, but there is no way you can have an accurate opinion about live poker lol.

and the reason you can only win live is because its crowded of these only live monsters right.

god it tilts me that baal is a mod here

i think its awesome, personally.

On January 05 2010 21:06 nolan wrote: i think its awesome, personally.

yep, i rofl daily

On December 23 2009 05:37 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On December 23 2009 00:17 GfOrcebOnd wrote: What is your guys problem? The only thing that i said that was out of line was this   The fact of the matter is guys like BT and BH will never win in the longrun in live poker. But everytime i see him play live poker he loses. Instead of laughing like retards why don't we get into a serious discussion about why i'm the clueless the guy who is a retard on crack. I'm up for a debate. ok ill be the nice guy for a change and a good advice is to take what i say blindly because trust me, i (we) know way more than you about this game, so here it goes. Online poker is like 10 times harder than live poker, Live is full of ridiculous fish while online has way more regulars and is much much tougher, Brian Townsend is one of the best NLHE and PLO players in the world and he would crush any live donk you might idiolize like Negranu, Phil Hellmuth or whatever random TV donk with the exeption of maybe Phil Ivey and nobody else. So when you say Townsend or Hastings wont beat live poker, we all laugh.

LOL. So you think that grinding online is 10x harder then live??? Get a clue. Only games that u can safely call soft is 5/10NL and below and I GURANTEE you, i'll make much more mass tabling low as .5/1NL online.

It tilts me when a online player who has no clue talk about how ez live games are when they haven't even grinded a month of high stakes game in their life. Grinding online poker is like playing video game at home. Live poker is another monster. Besides, every established poker room is stacked with online winners in the highstakes line up. Sure, u might've got lucky while playing once or twice on peak time and loled at the table full of fish but that's because not many players who play for living like to sit miserably infront of the felt on holidays.

It's been a long time since moneymaker took down the wsop. The days of highstakes games filled with clueless whales is over. Commerce 20/40NL games is not the official heaven for printing money anymore. Games at vegas suck. Bellagio is the only place that runs 25/50 regularly and I heard games aren't that good. Notorious Ed T's loft games at NYC became once a month thing. last time I played, half the table was half stacking and no1 bothered to reload. Borgata's 25/50 rarely runs longer then 10hours. So where are those live monkeys ur talking about? Do i gotta take 20hr flight weekly to macau?

There's ALOTTTT more new fish dropping online then live.

Ask Sicks Macks anything about finance/investing.

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On January 09 2010 08:09 DvoBoardRider wrote: Ask Sicks Macks anything about finance/investing. http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-foru...Ask_me_anything_about_finance_...html

???????? the fuck

On December 23 2009 05:37 Baal wrote: [QUOTE] ok ill be the nice guy for a change and a good advice is to take what i say blindly because trust me, i (we) know way more than you about this game, so here it goes. Online poker is like 10 times harder than live poker, Live is full of ridiculous fish while online has way more regulars and is much much tougher, Brian Townsend is one of the best NLHE and PLO players in the world and he would crush any live donk you might idiolize like Negranu, Phil Hellmuth or whatever random TV donk with the exeption of maybe Phil Ivey and nobody else. So when you say Townsend or Hastings wont beat live poker, we all laugh.

Ok, i take back what i said about Townsend. I surrender.

And i agree that playing online is 10 times tougher if not 20 times harder than playing live. That's why i prefer to play live over online b/c it's easier to win money. You guys are good. I'll be honest i can't play online. I tried it. Grinded playing 5-10 cent then moved up to 10-25 cent. Was up over 60 buyins in a 2-3 month period then lost 3/4 of it in like two weeks and was like wtf. It's a fucking bitch.