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Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 14 2022 23:08. Posts 8665
I’ve been recovering at home from covid for past couple weeks not doing too much, mainly bored. In the downtime I started getting some nostalgia feels of the poker golden days good times.

LP was started in Sept or Oct 2005 and I believe I probably checked this site daily from day 1 until 2013 or so when I quit poker. Those were some great times, I remember fondly and am super grateful for some of the good times I had with a lot of old LPers as we went on this adventure together. For the broodwar generation it was incredibly good fortune to be ~early 20s, right time & right place (here) when the ESPN/moneymaker/internet boom happened.

Going to just keyboard mash out some shout outs and memories, I think in roughly chronological order of when our paths crossed,

TwistedEcho (Jon), my starcraft bff (Clan VdP 4lyfe) who got me into poker with a $30 loan and told me in a 3 min MSN messenger convo how to beat SnGs and limit holdthem (all that was needed at the time). Later became a MTT herobluff+herocall monster that also liked to party more than almost all nerdy poker players. Biggest weakness in his otherwise beastly game was credit card roulette. Pictured below with Myth shortly after losing cc roulette in a LP dinner attended by quite a lot more people than in this photo, lol.




Tom (teej1985), my uni housemate. We dropped out to play poker together (actually Tom was 1st a few months ahead, and his mother blamed me for corrupting him, go figure?). My brother from another mother, we lived breathed sleeped the game together for the golden years, shared a house and battled common enemies in the stars 10/20 25/50 games. His poker career was nearly over before it began, taking degen big MTT shots with his roll. Down to last $5 in a $5 MTT and either won or came 2nd for a 4 figure score to get his start. Went on to crush very high stakes for very long. Beast

Rekrul – if you were a fan of broodwar and poker in this era there is no way Rekrul was not the top cat and you weren’t a fanboy. From TL.net grim reaper to being one of the forerunners of the bw->poker transition. If back in the day we were paper chasers just livin’ our life then it’s safe to say Rekrul paved the way for us cats to get paid pre-uigea (sorry I’ll try to stop this turning into shit). He may not have been so pleased about this, here’s an old chatlog:

Nonetheless it was a delight to witness some rekrul ownage personally beasting people on the Wynn $10/20 cash tables (some crazy games back then, people buying in $50k deep and running outrageous bluffs). Other memory highlights include railing Rekrul beast Vanessa Selbst for a bracelet in WSOP $10k hu with a bunch of LPers (including the lovable degen Raidan who beat me for a surprising amount at $100 a throw rock-paper-scissors while we were waiting for the action to start).

TOTMidiaN – my boy the best british starcraft player by a ludicrous margin. Proud to have ‘paid it forward’ what Echo did for me by loaning him some $ to get him started in poker. Another guy come to kill Dan’s EV. Lived the good life for a good nr of years in Korea and became fluent in Korean.

RiKD – good to see you still around here man. Good times in 2006 sharing Vegas rooms. I was a 21yo total life fish, I guess we all were. Bad sleep schedules, grinding online in the room, and getting up too late to go somewhere nice for dinner and settling on the default All American Bar and Grill in Rio for multiple nights in a row which was the only convenient thing open at midnight. Ugh! But funny. More good stories coming to mind I probably don’t want to share publically!

RainKhan – hilarious chap. I just cannot even think of a single good Khan story that it would be reasonable to publically repeat here.

MezmerizePlz (vvvvvvvQ) and his boy Alex – I can remember one great steak dinner we had in Dublin where we were abs pissing ourselves over one the aforementioned RainKhan stories that won’t be shared publically. Many more good times in Vegas on top.

Nazgul – super calm and smart persona in real life – though used to do 40 hour sessions to get unstuck, think he had one where he only stopped playing after coming back from some ungodly number of buyins down at 10/20stars; berated me for having a ‘spineless’ habit of quitting when I was losing and stopped playing well (or as “well” as anyone played in like 2008 – take this comment on a relative basis, this was pre-solver street poker we were playing here back in the day ????)

Daut – had many good chats (including about our favourite 3/6 stars player SOROS). Pleasure to watch his PCA win and owning Ike HU at the end with a high reliability live tell.

Mig – MTT beast, kept crushing me in sidebets. Good laughs had together in Vegas houses. Shortly after winning his bracelet, with his laid back ‘nothing special just another day in the office’ demeanor:


RaSZi – legend but basically on tilt all the time for one reason or another from what I remember of the times. Remember a particularly awkward incident when a bunch of us were housing together for Vegas in some ridiculous mansion, Lex was outside the house life tilting very hard trying to calm down with a cigarette, and Echo had the idea of lightening the mood by pranking Raszi with a water balloon to the face…… That one, it turns out, did not have the intended effect and actually went down very poorly… LOLOL

Myth – true gentleman and good guy. Introduced me to scotch, general jovial bonvivant. I am rofling myself currently at an amazing pic of him I have here at the end of a Vegas night out, that is probably again not for public sharing.

PoorUser – master of winning with ludicrous J high calldowns where it’s not even likely he beats bluffs at showdown but manages to pull it off somehow.

MiPwnYa – Ultimate bonvivant French. Moved to London near the tail-end of my poker career, we were living not too far off each other and had many great squash/badminton battles, dinners and drinks. Got some excellent life advice from my brother Quentin at the time which changed the course of my life subsequently.

locoo (small L, two Os) – winning at life in Lima, beautiful family, thanks for your hospitality when I was travelling in South America. Hope you stayed away from those crooked local live games (or found they weren’t crooked and crushed them!)

straate – had many a stars battle with this legend at the tables. Probably only LPer I’ve met for a dinner (that I wasn’t already friends with outside LP prior) after transitioning out of poker, on a business trip to SF few years back. Guy’s made his own good transition out of poker and was doing interesting stuff

longple – epic grinder, one of the guys that was becoming the new generation of beast just as I was quitting the game, had a great dinner with him in London and was very happy to see him having deserved success at the time for his hard work

Liquid`Meat (made TL & LP websites, guy was ridiculously Dutch and loves his beer)[/b],

Bigbobomobmombombobm, Bigred0000000000, Doomer, FrinkX, Nolan,

DustySwedeDude - guy was the most social/least nerdy I’ve ever seen an LPer at a live MTT table, was smashing the red wine at some semilarge euro main event donkament and being the table entertainer,

F4zi - flashiest LPer, knew how to enjoy his life,

Xervean - OG LP Degen taking high stakes shots for rolls back in the day. I understand through social media the man has cleaned up his act and crushes chess/responsible stakes poker now?

Cutssss – Insane Frenchie doing ridic stuff and crushing the games on weird euro sites.

And LPers I don’t think I ever met but who I chatted with online a lot or just enjoyed the posts of:
Baal (great guy, lots of life wisdom and lots of car wisdom)

Ggplz – actually ha we did meet but before poker, at WCG UK! Good guy

Arya – more well known as a TL.net mod (just not by me because I can’t remember his name or more well known ID anymore, just went by Arya on LP). Introduced me to GoT books in 2006 way before there was any murmur of a HBO show. Has a great story of taking a degen underrolled partypoker 10/20nl shot. Played 1 orbit. Limps utg with AA. Hsnl proto-crusher loloTRICKEDu isolate raises, Arya limp-reraises ALLIN FOR 100BB. Gets timebank-called by AK or something, wins $2k, sits out next hand, never plays a hand of 10/20 again. 10000bb/100 lifetime winrate lol.

Other names of posters I liked that come to mind- Loco, byrnesam, SakiSaki, Tomson, Rhaegar.

I almost don’t want to even press the post button at this point because I’m scared I’m forgetting people here. Pls don’t take it personally and kindly post your own stories of our shared good times if you see this!

Would always love to reconnect with old LP friends at some point in life, send me a PM if any of you guys are ever in London and want to get a dinner or drink. Am assuming many of you check this site from once every two years to never, so even if you’re reading this a few years down the line offer stands ????. Actually just reach out to reconnect anyway, would love to know what you guys are up to now etc. Let me know where in the world you are (incase I’m travelling there anytime soon like with work or something.. likely in US + Toronto few times a year now that travel is a thing again)

As for me I quit poker in 2013 and rejoined the zz traditional route. Got married, started a family (my daughter is 7 now), got a finance job looking at stocks.

Cheers!
Ket

























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RiKD    United States. Jun 15 2022 00:15. Posts 8442

Bravo. The good feelings of nostalgia are strong within me.

Arya is like the one guy I kind of forgot about. We were as thick as thieves playing .5/1 or 1/2. That 10/20 hand is so legendary. He decided to focus on I believe Law at a very good university and when I left facebook the relationship disappeared.

FYI there are talks about closing LP down. It's not the same LP it was back in '05 - '08. One reason not to close it down is because every now and again someone like you stops by and people get good feelings.


lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 01:22. Posts 5739

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 01:35. Posts 5739

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 01:40. Posts 5739

i still keep in touch with mipwnya ill send him this thread, get stronger ket and heal

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 01:48. Posts 5739

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Loco   Canada. Jun 15 2022 01:55. Posts 20963

I've also been hit with nostalgia from watching some old High Stakes Poker episodes recently. I also went to Vegas for the first time last year and played at a few different casinos after being inactive since 2010 and it was really fun. I think I would have enjoyed poker for longer if it was a possibility to play live games where I live.

The only relevant story I have to add is when I went to a strip club with Fayth and some other StarCraft players when we started being successful at poker, and he offered me several hundreds of dollars if I took some lap dances from a fat chick and I declined. He just kept raising the amount he'd give to me and I kept declining. I also played credit card roulette for the first time when we had a LP dinner at the PCA in 2009 and the finals were me against Fayth with RainKhan holding the cards and I chose and Fayth ended up losing and tilting for a second but he took it pretty well, it was a really expensive meal lol we were like 8 or 9 at the table.

You were always a really helpful and solid Ket, hope you're doing well.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 15/06/2022 01:57

lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 02:06. Posts 5739

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RiKD    United States. Jun 15 2022 02:18. Posts 8442

Always bring a RNG versus the RPS sharks.


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 15 2022 02:22. Posts 5290

"longple – epic grinder, one of the guys that was becoming the new generation of beast just as I was quitting the game, had a great dinner with him in London and was very happy to see him having deserved success at the time for his hard work."

I was longple's padawan. I seem like a third-generation LP'er in the context of this post. The force was strong with that guy. He taught me new things that I would later confirm to be optimal by the solver. I believe Longple was on his way to become one of the best NL players in the world, but he never made it to the nosebleeds for some reason. The swedes crushed at poker during this time...Wilhasha, and Isildur1 were both at the top. They were the last group of top players that made people believe that sheer intuition was capable of making you number 1.

Longple still made what is probably the most insane successful bluff i've ever seen, which worked. (against tuffshark). He called with a pocket pair twice then bluffed by repping quads or some shit. He posted it on LP and everyone thought Longple was a lunatic that got lucky, (except for me). Perhaps someone can find it in the HH section. Edit: I found it! https://www.liquidpoker.net/h/936362. Wow, hand seems actually very normal by today's standards. Crazy at the time though.

Out of that list, I've only met Byrnesam, who used to crash at my place a lot after we went drinking. Very funny guy. When Byrnesam is drunk, he often walks backwards, then fowards, then sideways. I had to direct him with nudges to make him walk up the hill to my place once. Lmao.

I have to apologize to Raszi. Byrnsesam once logged onto my LP account and insulted him a lot on this forum. I didn't want to do that as I barely knew who Raszi was.

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Silver_nz   New Zealand. Jun 15 2022 02:58. Posts 5647

I remember watching you play in the early days and making the incredibly funny joke to myself: "no set, no bet, Ket". At the time I though everyone should be a LAGtarded spew monkey.
I've got a stylish party house with multiple computers setup for LAN parties in Christchurch New Zealand if you are ever in the neighborhood!


Baalim   Mexico. Jun 15 2022 03:14. Posts 34246

I wish I could read and see these forbidden stories.

LOL @ throwing a water baloon at Raszi's face while he is raging.

Good stuff Ket, your timing and ability to quickly pivot in life was flawless, to start in poker, to switch to PLO and leave for a career in finance (I think you wanted the pursue law at the time).

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 03:56. Posts 5739

somethings money cant buy true friendship rikd you are a lucky guy my man

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ggplz   Sweden. Jun 15 2022 05:42. Posts 16784

Hey man,

Thanks for the shoutout, yeah I remember getting clapped at WCG on some weird island map vs you after you practised some frozenarbiter build LOL, that was a very interesting trip though and I'm glad I had the chance to meet u back then pre-poker / TL days. I do wish that we had met again since then, but I was never a giga high roller etc and mostly played online with some live in UK/abroad. I played for fun & freedom. However, I lost total interest in poker quite a while ago and very rarely I still play the odd hand or two for fun. I think of you as one of the most respectable and intelligent people I ever met and also appreciate you for keeping a proportionate fun loving approach to life. Congrats on your family and daughter also growing up fast! That's fantastic.

I'm doing something somewhat similar to yourself atm, although I'm not working for a major firm. Basically I'm a private investor focusing largely on stocks with hidden value and momentum. I have owned part of a few businesses which were amazingly undervalued only to see them get sold by the owners for a premium. Not a bad result, but not exactly what I wanted. Currently I'm mostly interested in materials, mining, chemical and holding companies. I like reading a lot and thinking about how they work.

Always happy to meet up with you sometime again in the future, I will definitely hit you up if I'm in London. And if u want to chat more or do a call sometime we can, I'm not on any social media atm except Discord (if that counts) but just DM me whatever method u use to chat nowadays.

Love the write up, will never forget all the legends mentioned. PS, I though Straate had passed away in Amsterdam or am I confusing him with another LPer?

BTW, I recently bought a product called a yubikey, basically it's a hardware 2 factor authenticator and you can also use it for one time passwords, NFCs, static passwords and a few other similar methods. It allows 2 methods per key. Great way to protect various logins and you can buy multiple keys and connect them to the same services as a backup incase you lose your main key. I love this method and think you would be interested in it if you're not already

Catch u again soon
<3

if poker is dangerous to them i would rank sports betting as a Kodiak grizzly bear who smells blood after you just threw a javelin into his cub - RaiNKhANLast edit: 15/06/2022 06:33

MiPwnYa    Brasil. Jun 15 2022 09:11. Posts 5230

What a sweet post <3 Also makes me feel incredibly old and nostalgic lol
Love you Kettle, will reach out next time I'm in London


Nuros   United Kingdom. Jun 15 2022 09:54. Posts 860

Hope it's just for nostalgias sake you wrote this Kettle! Hope you and the fam are good!


Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 15 2022 10:28. Posts 8665


  On June 14 2022 23:15 RiKD wrote:
Bravo. The good feelings of nostalgia are strong within me.

Arya is like the one guy I kind of forgot about. We were as thick as thieves playing .5/1 or 1/2. That 10/20 hand is so legendary. He decided to focus on I believe Law at a very good university and when I left facebook the relationship disappeared.

FYI there are talks about closing LP down. It's not the same LP it was back in '05 - '08. One reason not to close it down is because every now and again someone like you stops by and people get good feelings.


Ah nice good for him.. Ha thanks for kind words, where is this talk of LP closedown though? I guess all the more reason we find other ways to stay in touch.. I guess if it happens it just gets merged into TL.net somehow with a little poker section. Another super impressive thing to witness from sidelines has been how Naz/TL successfully rode the wave of eSports becoming mainstream. Always the man



  On June 15 2022 00:22 lostaccount wrote:
Cheers thanks ket for helping with transfer in vegas and charging me below market vigs


Welcome!! Don't remember this lol. Looks like you're about 40% of the posting volume keeping this site going nowadays lol, hope all well



  On June 15 2022 00:55 Loco wrote:
I've also been hit with nostalgia from watching some old High Stakes Poker episodes recently. I also went to Vegas for the first time last year and played at a few different casinos after being inactive since 2010 and it was really fun. I think I would have enjoyed poker for longer if it was a possibility to play live games where I live.

The only relevant story I have to add is when I went to a strip club with Fayth and some other StarCraft players when we started being successful at poker, and he offered me several hundreds of dollars if I took some lap dances from a fat chick and I declined. He just kept raising the amount he'd give to me and I kept declining. I also played credit card roulette for the first time when we had a LP dinner at the PCA in 2009 and the finals were me against Fayth with RainKhan holding the cards and I chose and Fayth ended up losing and tilting for a second but he took it pretty well, it was a really expensive meal lol we were like 8 or 9 at the table.

You were always a really helpful and solid Ket, hope you're doing well.


Yo really appreciate ur kind words and LOLOL at that story. Fayth def a guy I'm forgetting the first time around. Another guy I remember put in massive grind back in the day and came up pretty quickly when he put the work in. what you up to nowadays Loco?




  On June 15 2022 01:22 Stroggoz wrote:
"longple – epic grinder, one of the guys that was becoming the new generation of beast just as I was quitting the game, had a great dinner with him in London and was very happy to see him having deserved success at the time for his hard work."

I was longple's padawan. I seem like a third-generation LP'er in the context of this post. The force was strong with that guy. He taught me new things that I would later confirm to be optimal by the solver. I believe Longple was on his way to become one of the best NL players in the world, but he never made it to the nosebleeds for some reason. The swedes crushed at poker during this time...Wilhasha, and Isildur1 were both at the top. They were the last group of top players that made people believe that sheer intuition was capable of making you number 1.

Longple still made what is probably the most insane successful bluff i've ever seen, which worked. (against tuffshark). He called with a pocket pair twice then bluffed by repping quads or some shit. He posted it on LP and everyone thought Longple was a lunatic that got lucky, (except for me). Perhaps someone can find it in the HH section. Edit: I found it! https://www.liquidpoker.net/h/936362. Wow, hand seems actually very normal by today's standards. Crazy at the time though.

Out of that list, I've only met Byrnesam, who used to crash at my place a lot after we went drinking. Very funny guy. When Byrnesam is drunk, he often walks backwards, then fowards, then sideways. I had to direct him with nudges to make him walk up the hill to my place once. Lmao.

I have to apologize to Raszi. Byrnsesam once logged onto my LP account and insulted him a lot on this forum. I didn't want to do that as I barely knew who Raszi was.


LOL Byrnesam legend. Really enjoyed reading the Longple story, and that hand link is amazing especially the LPer chat in the comments. I guess that in a nutshell captures is the era of poker moving forward towards more solid theoretical play away from my day's ridiculous street poker (standard open size was 4x, 3b to 14-16bb with unreasonable frequencies, cb 20bb lol), and with hindsight longple was clearly in front of it.
Had an awesome couple 'old times sake' HU battles with longple long after I'd quit NLHE and was a plo player. Think I fared okay in the first one, must have ran good, but def got torn a new one in the second one.
Stroggoz - think I vaguely remember lurking the site years after I stopped posting and saw u were doing well in poker's solver era? Great to see. Have you posted your own poker story somewhere



  On June 15 2022 02:14 Baalim wrote:
I wish I could read and see these forbidden stories.

LOL @ throwing a water baloon at Raszi's face while he is raging.

Good stuff Ket, your timing and ability to quickly pivot in life was flawless, to start in poker, to switch to PLO and leave for a career in finance (I think you wanted the pursue law at the time).


Ha thanks mate. Not really sure what happened with the rate of decline in quality of games after I left and whether it was ahead or below my expectations at the time or not but any perceived good timing was probs mainly luck on my part. Right place right time in golden days, and then quit when I did because I didn't wanna leave it too late to get into something else.




  On June 15 2022 04:42 ggplz wrote:
Hey man,

Thanks for the shoutout, yeah I remember getting clapped at WCG on some weird island map vs you after you practised some frozenarbiter build LOL, that was a very interesting trip though and I'm glad I had the chance to meet u back then pre-poker / TL days. I do wish that we had met again since then, but I was never a giga high roller etc and mostly played online with some live in UK/abroad. I played for fun & freedom. However, I lost total interest in poker quite a while ago and very rarely I still play the odd hand or two for fun. I think of you as one of the most respectable and intelligent people I ever met and also appreciate you for keeping a proportionate fun loving approach to life. Congrats on your family and daughter also growing up fast! That's fantastic.

I'm doing something somewhat similar to yourself atm, although I'm not working for a major firm. Basically I'm a private investor focusing largely on stocks with hidden value and momentum. I have owned part of a few businesses which were amazingly undervalued only to see them get sold by the owners for a premium. Not a bad result, but not exactly what I wanted. Currently I'm mostly interested in materials, mining, chemical and holding companies. I like reading a lot and thinking about how they work.

Always happy to meet up with you sometime again in the future, I will definitely hit you up if I'm in London. And if u want to chat more or do a call sometime we can, I'm not on any social media atm except Discord (if that counts) but just DM me whatever method u use to chat nowadays.

Love the write up, will never forget all the legends mentioned. PS, I though Straate had passed away in Amsterdam or am I confusing him with another LPer?

BTW, I recently bought a product called a yubikey, basically it's a hardware 2 factor authenticator and you can also use it for one time passwords, NFCs, static passwords and a few other similar methods. It allows 2 methods per key. Great way to protect various logins and you can buy multiple keys and connect them to the same services as a backup incase you lose your main key. I love this method and think you would be interested in it if you're not already

Catch u again soon
<3


Ah great to hear from you. I'll pm you my mobile, perhaps good to keep in touch via whatsapp chat. Great to hear ur into the stocks etc.
LOL frozenarbiter build - I got him to teach me it personally in my WCG prep. I asked and he was initially hesitant to help because UK only sends one person, and he was more loyal as a closer friend to Midian at the time who's "competing" for the same slot. I told him "lol mate don't worry, I am not going to beat midian if I learn a build from you". He went to Jamie to ask permission to teach me the builds. Jamie said "lol sure" ofcourse.

Frozenarbiter - definitely another guy I forgot to mention initially. Had the pleasure to meet him when I spent a summer in Seoul. There's a story from that night out which _absolutely_ can't be repeated publically for his sake



  On June 15 2022 01:58 Silver_nz wrote:
I remember watching you play in the early days and making the incredibly funny joke to myself: "no set, no bet, Ket". At the time I though everyone should be a LAGtarded spew monkey.
I've got a stylish party house with multiple computers setup for LAN parties in Christchurch New Zealand if you are ever in the neighborhood!


hahah good one... man I thought I spewed plenty https://www.liquidpoker.net/h/222210



  On June 15 2022 08:11 MiPwnYa wrote:
What a sweet post <3 Also makes me feel incredibly old and nostalgic lol
Love you Kettle, will reach out next time I'm in London


<3 Where are you nowadays??



  On June 15 2022 08:54 Nuros wrote:
Hope it's just for nostalgias sake you wrote this Kettle! Hope you and the fam are good!


Wtf, Tom!! I 100% forgot you or Luke were ever on LP (VdP4lyfe!!!!). Did totally have you and Luke in mind when making this post but left a bunch of people out that weren't regular LPers because wrong audience etc. Amazing surprise to see u pop up here, what you up to nowadays mate?? Still keep in touch with Luke? Haha I'm not dying or something don't worry.


ToT)MidiaN(    United Kingdom. Jun 15 2022 12:09. Posts 5070


  On June 15 2022 04:42 ggplz wrote:
Hey man,

Thanks for the shoutout, yeah I remember getting clapped at WCG on some weird island map vs you after you practised some frozenarbiter build LOL, that was a very interesting trip though and I'm glad I had the chance to meet u back then pre-poker / TL days. I do wish that we had met again since then, but I was never a giga high roller etc and mostly played online with some live in UK/abroad. I played for fun & freedom. However, I lost total interest in poker quite a while ago and very rarely I still play the odd hand or two for fun. I think of you as one of the most respectable and intelligent people I ever met and also appreciate you for keeping a proportionate fun loving approach to life. Congrats on your family and daughter also growing up fast! That's fantastic.

I'm doing something somewhat similar to yourself atm, although I'm not working for a major firm. Basically I'm a private investor focusing largely on stocks with hidden value and momentum. I have owned part of a few businesses which were amazingly undervalued only to see them get sold by the owners for a premium. Not a bad result, but not exactly what I wanted. Currently I'm mostly interested in materials, mining, chemical and holding companies. I like reading a lot and thinking about how they work.

Always happy to meet up with you sometime again in the future, I will definitely hit you up if I'm in London. And if u want to chat more or do a call sometime we can, I'm not on any social media atm except Discord (if that counts) but just DM me whatever method u use to chat nowadays.

Love the write up, will never forget all the legends mentioned. PS, I though Straate had passed away in Amsterdam or am I confusing him with another LPer?

BTW, I recently bought a product called a yubikey, basically it's a hardware 2 factor authenticator and you can also use it for one time passwords, NFCs, static passwords and a few other similar methods. It allows 2 methods per key. Great way to protect various logins and you can buy multiple keys and connect them to the same services as a backup incase you lose your main key. I love this method and think you would be interested in it if you're not already

Catch u again soon
<3



The guy who passed away you're thinking of I believe to be ToT)Psier(. Johannes Strassmann I think his real name was. Good to see some old UK BW guys still kicking around here

One day good. One day bad. And some days, even hope 

Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 15 2022 12:16. Posts 8665

^ yeah exactly, forgot to mention. Sad story, but not straate who as far as I know is still very much doing fine!


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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 12:57. Posts 5739

i have remember everyone who has help me in life, and u did a small part lol

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lostaccount   Canada. Jun 15 2022 13:03. Posts 5739

my life is prefect lol couldnt be happier at this moment could always be better every second though

i am only missing my soulmates but divine timing so ill be waiting haha.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 15 2022 15:04. Posts 5290


  On June 15 2022 09:28 Ket wrote:
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LOL Byrnesam legend. Really enjoyed reading the Longple story, and that hand link is amazing especially the LPer chat in the comments. I guess that in a nutshell captures is the era of poker moving forward towards more solid theoretical play away from my day's ridiculous street poker (standard open size was 4x, 3b to 14-16bb with unreasonable frequencies, cb 20bb lol), and with hindsight longple was clearly in front of it.
Had an awesome couple 'old times sake' HU battles with longple long after I'd quit NLHE and was a plo player. Think I fared okay in the first one, must have ran good, but def got torn a new one in the second one.
Stroggoz - think I vaguely remember lurking the site years after I stopped posting and saw u were doing well in poker's solver era? Great to see. Have you posted your own poker story somewhere



Yeah, Longple was very creative.

I miss those days, because it was before the time of memorization. I benefitted a lot from solvers, but in my opinion they dumbed down poker to some extent. There is far less creativity and there has been very little innovation and discovery in poker in the last two years. The improvements people make now are very marginal tweaks to their strategy. That's one of the reasons I quit. Another reason being that it is too hard to make a living off it anymore.

I havn't posted my poker story anywhere, so I may as well now that i've quit. My poker story is an unusual one. I came back to poker around 2018-2019 after a long break and managed to do very well thanks to a little known website called globalpoker.com. Funnily enough, I wouldn't have heard of globalpoker if not for neillyAA posting about it on this forum. So no matter what people think of neillyAA, I like to think of him as the guy who unknowingly started a chain of events that lead me to making a sick comeback in poker.

Very few people knew about the site, but it was incredibly soft at the time and only open to Americans and Canadians. The regs played like they were stuck in pre black friday era and culturally they were stuck in that time era. The amount of trash talk was amusing. I have a "globalpoker scrapbook" folder on my desktop. I got myself a canadian ID so I could withdraw. Eventually the site banned me and took my account balance (which was 5 figures at the time of the banning). I ran up a $300 bankroll into playing 10/20 in about 40 days, using aggressive bankroll management and proceeded to play 10/20 on that site for the next year. During this time, linuslove was battling at 10/20 on stars. His playstyle seemed innovative so I basically studied all of the hands I had got on him. After that i got into sims. Then I branched out and played on pokerstars and the chinese apps. Although the chinese app games were dying by the time I got to them. After global, I spent another year on stars and made it to 10/20. But the games at 10/20 were extremely tough. I'm not shitting you when I say that regs like katya_18, and 0human0 were possibly the weakest players in some of those 10/20 games.

My bankroll was too small to ever take shots at 25/50 on stars, and there was no hope i'd ever reach that level because the action was less every month. At the time of quitting it really seemed like my improvements were starting to feel very marginal. I didn't see a future for myself in poker and so I quit and decided to go pursue an education in math. I have now decided not to get a phd and am thinking of becoming some sort of coder.

And yea, that hand. The main reason I linked it is because of the reaction to it. It shows that Longple was very far ahead of his time. Nowdays every 1/2 reg would understand what Longple was doing there, and most would say "it's standard at some nonzero frequency". But back then it was a 200IQ giga leet play that mere mortals couldn't comprehend. And that was normal for the hands Longple posted here, haha.

Here's another very ancient hand from way back, from me. https://www.liquidpoker.net/h/937378

But Longple in the comments was the sole person arguing in favour of blockbets. Blockbets became very rare over time, becoming known as only a play that donks make. But they came back into popularity once people saw that solvers love blockbets. This isn't a spot where solvers blockbet, but it would have been a nice exploitative play to make.

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Nuros   United Kingdom. Jun 15 2022 16:11. Posts 860

Ah good you had me worried for a sec Glad you're doing well, good to see mida here too I never posted here as much as you guys but still check in everynow and then Yeah I'm good, still play a little poker tho not much, mainly playing around with crypto now. Luke's also good, living in asia playing in soft live games


Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 15 2022 19:23. Posts 8665


  On June 15 2022 14:04 Stroggoz wrote:
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Yeah, Longple was very creative.

I miss those days, because it was before the time of memorization. I benefitted a lot from solvers, but in my opinion they dumbed down poker to some extent. There is far less creativity and there has been very little innovation and discovery in poker in the last two years. The improvements people make now are very marginal tweaks to their strategy. That's one of the reasons I quit. Another reason being that it is too hard to make a living off it anymore.

I havn't posted my poker story anywhere, so I may as well now that i've quit. My poker story is an unusual one. I came back to poker around 2018-2019 after a long break and managed to do very well thanks to a little known website called globalpoker.com. Funnily enough, I wouldn't have heard of globalpoker if not for neillyAA posting about it on this forum. So no matter what people think of neillyAA, I like to think of him as the guy who unknowingly started a chain of events that lead me to making a sick comeback in poker.

Very few people knew about the site, but it was incredibly soft at the time and only open to Americans and Canadians. The regs played like they were stuck in pre black friday era and culturally they were stuck in that time era. The amount of trash talk was amusing. I have a "globalpoker scrapbook" folder on my desktop. I got myself a canadian ID so I could withdraw. Eventually the site banned me and took my account balance (which was 5 figures at the time of the banning). I ran up a $300 bankroll into playing 10/20 in about 40 days, using aggressive bankroll management and proceeded to play 10/20 on that site for the next year. During this time, linuslove was battling at 10/20 on stars. His playstyle seemed innovative so I basically studied all of the hands I had got on him. After that i got into sims. Then I branched out and played on pokerstars and the chinese apps. Although the chinese app games were dying by the time I got to them. After global, I spent another year on stars and made it to 10/20. But the games at 10/20 were extremely tough. I'm not shitting you when I say that regs like katya_18, and 0human0 were possibly the weakest players in some of those 10/20 games.

My bankroll was too small to ever take shots at 25/50 on stars, and there was no hope i'd ever reach that level because the action was less every month. At the time of quitting it really seemed like my improvements were starting to feel very marginal. I didn't see a future for myself in poker and so I quit and decided to go pursue an education in math. I have now decided not to get a phd and am thinking of becoming some sort of coder.

And yea, that hand. The main reason I linked it is because of the reaction to it. It shows that Longple was very far ahead of his time. Nowdays every 1/2 reg would understand what Longple was doing there, and most would say "it's standard at some nonzero frequency". But back then it was a 200IQ giga leet play that mere mortals couldn't comprehend. And that was normal for the hands Longple posted here, haha.

Here's another very ancient hand from way back, from me. https://www.liquidpoker.net/h/937378

But Longple in the comments was the sole person arguing in favour of blockbets. Blockbets became very rare over time, becoming known as only a play that donks make. But they came back into popularity once people saw that solvers love blockbets. This isn't a spot where solvers blockbet, but it would have been a nice exploitative play to make.



really interesting post, thanks for sharing. What did you do in your long break? guess it didn't stick if you came back, well done for still getting $ out of NLHE so late in the day, that sounds impressive / ouch on the ban . Also well done for pivoting back out.
More longple beasting, love it. guy was from the future. sure glad i did not play him hu any more than i did back then.

I checked that 2p2 thread you referenced about RTA, looks abs savage and def makes me think online poker (nlhe at least) is likely completely unviable now. so you can just open files from a big nested folders presolved database and know what to do in any spot? Funnily remember thinking when I quit something like "I suppose if this doesn't work out, in the abs worst case at least I can come back and grind some more poker down the line" - yeah maybe not so much anymore lol (luckily transition seems to have worked ok enough).

re: katya/human, the first name must be after my time as never heard it.. human I def remember as good solid reg from 25/50 games back in the day, though I guess being out of the loop so long it's more impressive/noteworthy to me the guy is still even playing today at all since I'm assuming that isn't the case for most of the player pool I was familiar with. I recall my first realisation of "oh the times, they are changing" while out of the loop was talking to a non-LP friend that played highstakes in, I wanna say ~2015, who said something to the effect of "you remember takechip? (crusher from my time) - yeah he's the big fish now, nl games run around him"

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Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 15 2022 19:25. Posts 8665


  On June 15 2022 15:11 Nuros wrote:
Ah good you had me worried for a sec Glad you're doing well, good to see mida here too I never posted here as much as you guys but still check in everynow and then Yeah I'm good, still play a little poker tho not much, mainly playing around with crypto now. Luke's also good, living in asia playing in soft live games


Aha figures on the not posting much, yeah you did poker surprisingly low key "getting it quietly" compared to how you were tearing up fools in GBR-1


Loco   Canada. Jun 15 2022 19:48. Posts 20963

Yeah Fayth was a sick grinder, probably still is. He's the one guy I've known to be basically addicted to owning people at something he's good at. He couldn't really see himself doing something else in life. Having a family didn't change that for him. But if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have had the motivation or confidence to do what I did back then.

As for me I stopped grinding anything for a few years and started living - exploring things I had neglected in life as a grinder. Studied things I was interested in, became involved in different groups. But more recently I started grinding something again - this time weightlifting. I enjoy the grind with something physical. It's familiar and yet novel. For work I got a job working on Google Stadia from home and it's very chill.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 16 2022 04:06. Posts 5290

Fayth still crushes poker. I think he transitioned to MTT's because the money is better. He binked a live MTT a year or two ago. But yeah he could still do well in the toughest NL cash games. I've seen his 2020 z500 winrate :D, it was strong. I would say he was at least as good at me as NL cash at the time that I quit.

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 16 2022 04:10. Posts 5290

Ket you might be surprised to learn that Lemon finally moved up from nl10 and is a midstakes grinder now (last i saw).

There are a few other LP'ers that still play for a living.

Also I don't remember linking you an RTA thread, is that the one that shows me getting cheated in it? RTA has not really taken over yet, but it's going to happen sooner or later. A lot of people vastly overate cheating software as "killing poker". I think it maybe contributed about 0.1%. The other 99.9% is the predatory "overfishing" of regulars and the fact that NL has been solved asymptotically by the regs. The top regs basically are competitive with the top bots, (Pluribus beat Linus by 2bb/100, which means reg only games are pretty hard to justify when factoring in rake).

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iop   Sweden. Jun 16 2022 10:43. Posts 4951

Milkman lol i didnt spend half a thousand on a phone so i could play it cool and be all stealth 

DooMeR   United States. Jun 16 2022 11:03. Posts 8544

Am still alive also. HELLO KET @_@. Also am on the grind still playing the 2/5 -10/20 online but on WSOP.com which isn't as tough as stars

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

DooMeR   United States. Jun 16 2022 11:05. Posts 8544


  On June 16 2022 03:10 Stroggoz wrote:
Ket you might be surprised to learn that Lemon finally moved up from nl10 and is a midstakes grinder now (last i saw).

There are a few other LP'ers that still play for a living.

Also I don't remember linking you an RTA thread, is that the one that shows me getting cheated in it? RTA has not really taken over yet, but it's going to happen sooner or later. A lot of people vastly overate cheating software as "killing poker". I think it maybe contributed about 0.1%. The other 99.9% is the predatory "overfishing" of regulars and the fact that NL has been solved asymptotically by the regs. The top regs basically are competitive with the top bots, (Pluribus beat Linus by 2bb/100, which means reg only games are pretty hard to justify when factoring in rake).



Atleast on WSOP.com i dont see much if any actual RTA possible users. Everyone is still making tons of mistakes and there's arguably more incentive on WSOP than other sites to use it since its even softer games. So i am not personally super worried about it yet.

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 16 2022 23:11. Posts 8665


  On June 15 2022 18:48 Loco wrote:
Yeah Fayth was a sick grinder, probably still is. He's the one guy I've known to be basically addicted to owning people at something he's good at. He couldn't really see himself doing something else in life. Having a family didn't change that for him. But if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have had the motivation or confidence to do what I did back then.

As for me I stopped grinding anything for a few years and started living - exploring things I had neglected in life as a grinder. Studied things I was interested in, became involved in different groups. But more recently I started grinding something again - this time weightlifting. I enjoy the grind with something physical. It's familiar and yet novel. For work I got a job working on Google Stadia from home and it's very chill.


nice, sounds like a much happier life with conscious choice on how you want to live it than living on autopilot fulltime grinding poker or something else you're not enjoying


Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 16 2022 23:13. Posts 8665


  On June 16 2022 09:43 iop wrote:





  On June 16 2022 10:03 DooMeR wrote:
Am still alive also. HELLO KET @_@. Also am on the grind still playing the 2/5 -10/20 online but on WSOP.com which isn't as tough as stars


yoyo.. true grinder forlyfe :D


Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 16 2022 23:19. Posts 8665


  On June 16 2022 03:10 Stroggoz wrote:
Ket you might be surprised to learn that Lemon finally moved up from nl10 and is a midstakes grinder now (last i saw).

There are a few other LP'ers that still play for a living.

Also I don't remember linking you an RTA thread, is that the one that shows me getting cheated in it? RTA has not really taken over yet, but it's going to happen sooner or later. A lot of people vastly overate cheating software as "killing poker". I think it maybe contributed about 0.1%. The other 99.9% is the predatory "overfishing" of regulars and the fact that NL has been solved asymptotically by the regs. The top regs basically are competitive with the top bots, (Pluribus beat Linus by 2bb/100, which means reg only games are pretty hard to justify when factoring in rake).


ah don't remember how I stumbled across it then, clicking around here and there.. involved screenshots+chatlogs of some german kids where the guy doing it had a computer with nested folders next to his poker comp where he can apparently just look up what to do in every nlhe spot while playing. some hand involving calling down J7 mid 2pair on a 4flush board vs your 3barrels and talking in chat about being surprised the solution wants them to do that 100%

i spose if top players are really playing within 2bb/100 of solutions then its functionally equivalent to playing with bots. assuming there are still bunch of softer spots otherwise it sounds difficult to justify playing even if its a 0 rake game to me. At least on the blue chip sites - doesn't sound like doomer is running into these problems


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 17 2022 19:43. Posts 5290

NeillyAA probably has easier time beating games on PA.stars than Linuslove does on EU stars. Never thought i'd ever say such a sentence, but there it is.

When I played on globalpoker and stars at the same time, 200nl on stars was a bit tougher than 2000nl on global. I think American regs started to catch up a lot though in the last 2 years. I'm suprised there arn't more russians making there way onto american sites, i thought they would have flooded the place by now. When i was on global I was part of an unofficial bot investigation team. We took down a russian bot ring that was making $30-40k a month there.

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DooMeR   United States. Jun 17 2022 22:32. Posts 8544

Yea you're right about American regs being extremely weak and only just recently starting to work hard to improve. My pool has gotten much tougher in the past year compared to a year before. There have been a bunch of good players coming over to my pool also. Famously btnclicker is now terrorizing us HU players now rofl. Him and a few other sickos have been battling lately. Generally speaking though I think you're a little pessimistic. There are people still making great money even on stars. It just takes a ton of work

I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance, by running away from the scene of an accident. 

Oddeye   Canada. Jun 18 2022 00:50. Posts 5095

Overall the game have gotten weaker during the pandemics. Games are def beatable on some sites at NL100/200, not sure about pokerstars. Table selection is key as always. Some good players supervising a bunch of bots must be insanely profitable tho. 30-40k a month doesn't surprise me by the slightest I'd think you could do even more.

Is linuslove still considered the best cash game player atm?

Also it's great to see Fayth still plays poker, I thought he was doing a business course or opening some business.


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Jun 18 2022 03:52. Posts 5290


  On June 17 2022 23:50 Oddeye wrote:
Overall the game have gotten weaker during the pandemics. Games are def beatable on some sites at NL100/200, not sure about pokerstars. Table selection is key as always. Some good players supervising a bunch of bots must be insanely profitable tho. 30-40k a month doesn't surprise me by the slightest I'd think you could do even more.

Is linuslove still considered the best cash game player atm?

Also it's great to see Fayth still plays poker, I thought he was doing a business course or opening some business.



There are a lot of players that are about as good as linus and have been for some time now. I was just throwing that name out there because people actually know who he is. Most of the Russian high-stakes 6max regs are still quite exploitable, but there are a lot of extremely solid players from Europe that are at or near linus's level. When linus first became known as the best nl6max player he had quite a few leaks in his game. He didn't even have good preflop and was making weird all in jams on the flop because he didn't understand how to use piosolver properly. He has since fixed those and is a much better player than he was 3 years ago. He also found the time to become a top PLO reg and MTT's. So maybe Linus is the best nl reg still, but it's too hard to tell and there cannot be big enough sample sizes to prove anything anymore. Berri sweet is like linus in reverse, he is now a very good nl player.

On stars the games clearly aren't weaker since before the pandemic?? What site are you playing on? There was an initial influx of easy money but it has largely evaporated a while ago.

To give some actual numbers: z500 barely runs on stars now. Before the pandemic, player pool was around 50-80 during peak times. Look at the length of each monthly highstakes thread on twoplustwo and the volume recorded on stars. It's decreased quite a bit since jan 2020.

Like I said, the highest winrate at z500 in post solver era was ishter11 with 6bb/100 (and declining quite a lot at the time he quit). He was probably the best 6max reg at z500. Mine was around 3bb/100 over 400k hands and 6bb/100 at z200. But it seems like z200 is the new z500 now.

You get maybe 4 5/10 games running during peak hours, 2 of them will be 5 handed reg only, and 2 might revolve around a semi-fish/fish. That's your average night on pokerstars.

The issue with 5/10 and 10/20 games is that everyone takes a very long time for each decision, so your hourly isn't going to be that high.
. That's actually another thing that culturally sets American regs apart from Eu ones. The global games were insanely soft when I played there. I was one of like two-three that even bothered studying with sims. But near the end before i got banned, i'd say more than half the regs were studying with sims and they were improving rapidly. I actually coached about 5 mid-stakes regs on global, and know the regs there quite well. The games are probably still quite soft though.

Bots can't make that kind of money there anymore heh. The problem is that if they tried to make that kind of money, the players would catch them.

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@Doomer: Yeah if Buttonclickr is on American sites then gl haha. The Finnish hu regs are dominating that whole format. I'm not being pessimistic about stars. I guess it's subjective what people see as "good money", but the fact of the matter is, z500 doesn't even run.


One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beings 

locoo   Peru. Jun 20 2022 04:27. Posts 4561

Hey Ket! so much nostalgia here as well from time to time. It is so great to hear from you, I am glad to know that you formed a family and have moved on from poker succesfully. You said so when you came to SA and definetly seemed that you were over poker. It's great that you have a job looking at stocks, I am doing something of the sort as well, I guess I would call myself a swing trader in stocks. Been doing this full time ever since covid and I still enjoy it. Went in with the same obsessiveness I did with poker back in the day so I will definetly hit you up with a DM if you don't mind.

Also I remember we had a good time here, even though I dragged you into my second son's babyshower lmao, I just didn't want to fail you because you were here for just a few days, sorry! Wish we had more time to go out at night but was too difficult with my super pregnat wife, would love to make it up to you if you ever come back around.

Also love reading what you all guys have been doing all this time, lots of legends and great guys here, way too many to mention really, especially since most of us shared not only poker interest but a lot also starcraft/video games love, made friends and had experiences for a lifetime on this amazing ride.


bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

Nazgul    Netherlands. Jun 20 2022 14:56. Posts 7080

Great read. Miss you and miss those times!

You almost twin-caracked his AK - JonnyCosmo 

RaSZi   Netherlands. Jun 20 2022 15:15. Posts 1

Great trip down memory lane Ket! I really enjoyed battling you. Fearless player with a great attitude.

It's kind of funny how poker nostalgie can also feel a bit sad. I don't know if any of us realized the spot we were in. What you said about me also very much strikes home haha. I took such bad care of myself, really put my mind and body through some fucked up pressure and stress. Definitely feel like I was on life-tilt a lot. I regret a lot of interactions / experiences / situations, but I learned a lot from it. I completed my redemption arc and I'm a very happy, content person now.

I hope you are well and doing good. Best of luck with COVID recovery.

twitch.tv/lexveldhuis 

Santafairy   Korea (South). Jun 20 2022 15:33. Posts 2224


  On June 20 2022 14:15 RaSZi wrote:
Great trip down memory lane Ket! I really enjoyed battling you. Fearless player with a great attitude.

It's kind of funny how poker nostalgie can also feel a bit sad. I don't know if any of us realized the spot we were in. What you said about me also very much strikes home haha. I took such bad care of myself, really put my mind and body through some fucked up pressure and stress. Definitely feel like I was on life-tilt a lot. I regret a lot of interactions / experiences / situations, but I learned a lot from it. I completed my redemption arc and I'm a very happy, content person now.

I hope you are well and doing good. Best of luck with COVID recovery.


<3

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Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 20 2022 23:52. Posts 8665


  On June 20 2022 03:27 locoo wrote:
Hey Ket! so much nostalgia here as well from time to time. It is so great to hear from you, I am glad to know that you formed a family and have moved on from poker succesfully. You said so when you came to SA and definetly seemed that you were over poker. It's great that you have a job looking at stocks, I am doing something of the sort as well, I guess I would call myself a swing trader in stocks. Been doing this full time ever since covid and I still enjoy it. Went in with the same obsessiveness I did with poker back in the day so I will definetly hit you up with a DM if you don't mind.

Also I remember we had a good time here, even though I dragged you into my second son's babyshower lmao, I just didn't want to fail you because you were here for just a few days, sorry! Wish we had more time to go out at night but was too difficult with my super pregnat wife, would love to make it up to you if you ever come back around.

Also love reading what you all guys have been doing all this time, lots of legends and great guys here, way too many to mention really, especially since most of us shared not only poker interest but a lot also starcraft/video games love, made friends and had experiences for a lifetime on this amazing ride.




Aha nice, good to hear from you and for sure love reading these updates yours included




  On June 20 2022 13:56 Nazgul wrote:
Great read. Miss you and miss those times!


Thanks mate, aha glad to see my blog has drawn out a post from the LP big man. Hope all well




  On June 20 2022 14:15 RaSZi wrote:
Great trip down memory lane Ket! I really enjoyed battling you. Fearless player with a great attitude.

It's kind of funny how poker nostalgie can also feel a bit sad. I don't know if any of us realized the spot we were in. What you said about me also very much strikes home haha. I took such bad care of myself, really put my mind and body through some fucked up pressure and stress. Definitely feel like I was on life-tilt a lot. I regret a lot of interactions / experiences / situations, but I learned a lot from it. I completed my redemption arc and I'm a very happy, content person now.

I hope you are well and doing good. Best of luck with COVID recovery.


Thanks Lex! V glad to hear your positive update. Wasn't aware at the time it was as bad as you describe when reflecting on it above but love the 'ending'.. well not really ending as we all still have plenty of life ahead of us


Loco   Canada. Jun 21 2022 08:41. Posts 20963

What's your investment strategy at the current time Ket? Curious to know since you work in finance. If you don't mind sharing of course, it would be nice to know. I feel quite uncertain about how to approach things now.

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Xervean   United States. Jun 21 2022 15:23. Posts 682


  On June 14 2022 22:08 Ket wrote:

Xervean - OG LP Degen taking high stakes shots for rolls back in the day. I understand through social media the man has cleaned up his act and crushes chess/responsible stakes poker now?




Great post and awesome read! Ket was my poker therapist for many many years! I would have gone busto much more often if not for him. lmao! I got the poker nostalgia last year as well but I went crazy and put in 400k hands. I'm crushing 200nl for 8.5bb/100 after getting coaching and trying to break through into 500nl. I'm able to drop down stakes and keep playing mid session now if need be. Complete turn around from the old days when I would play 25/50 for rollz to get even! LOL

It was awesome finally meeting you and Yomer in Vegas in 2012! Glad to hear its going well in finance! I went the software engineer route. Congrats on the family!!

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KeyleK_uk   United Kingdom. Jun 24 2022 10:16. Posts 1687

Shout-out to VdP!! <3 Kettle

poker is soooo much easier when you flop sets 

Ket    United Kingdom. Jun 25 2022 23:59. Posts 8665


  On June 21 2022 07:41 Loco wrote:
What's your investment strategy at the current time Ket? Curious to know since you work in finance. If you don't mind sharing of course, it would be nice to know. I feel quite uncertain about how to approach things now.


yo sorry I don't really have any kind of good answer for you - work wise I'm doing 100% bottom up fundamental stuff, meeting individual companies' mgmt teams, doing diligence on niche stuff and find hidden misvalued gems the market is ignoring or mispricing due to some kind of controversy. no big "here's where I think markets or rates or whatever else are going" herocalls from me. Personal account wise I'm just trying to own some individual names I like, diversify across different macro scenarios and leave a decent amt of dry powder to be able to "buy when blood runs in the streets" with if things get really horrendous.



  On June 21 2022 14:23 Xervean wrote:
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Great post and awesome read! Ket was my poker therapist for many many years! I would have gone busto much more often if not for him. lmao! I got the poker nostalgia last year as well but I went crazy and put in 400k hands. I'm crushing 200nl for 8.5bb/100 after getting coaching and trying to break through into 500nl. I'm able to drop down stakes and keep playing mid session now if need be. Complete turn around from the old days when I would play 25/50 for rollz to get even! LOL

It was awesome finally meeting you and Yomer in Vegas in 2012! Glad to hear its going well in finance! I went the software engineer route. Congrats on the family!!

lol amazing, never thought I'd see the day



  On June 24 2022 09:16 KeyleK_uk wrote:
Shout-out to VdP!! <3 Kettle


<3<3
ridiculous how you guys weren't in OP, were at top of mind when I was making the post and looking back on all the good memories with sc/poker people but for whatever reason I didn't connect you with being LP regular posters even though you obviously were, I guess because we already went way back before LP even started

my Keylek story I'd have shared in OP was when I was making a couple Cardrunners videos in ~2008 was deciding i need some hu 5/10 multitable action vs a reg for a video, failing to get anyone in the lobbies to play me at the time (not a problem I'd expect to have today lol) so asking you if you fancied a battle for a CR video. Ended up making a "how not to play unless you want to get raped by keylek" video.


Loco   Canada. Jun 28 2022 06:14. Posts 20963

thanks Ket, that's pretty much what I expected from you but it's helpful to know

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

MezmerizePLZ    United States. Jul 24 2022 09:01. Posts 2598


Hi Ket,

Love the pics & nostalgia. Very fond memories of you & TJBentham. Legends. Happy to see that you've progressed successfully in life with family & working in finance which is an unofficial passion of mine and a great place for any smart ex-poker player to be in. I imagine its a perfect fit for you.

I agree with RaSZi, it was such a fun time, money flowed, many of us didn't think about the future or the magnitude of the opportunity we stumbled upon. I wish I had a little more years & wisdom under my belt during the early years... I look back on the poker friendships and experiences fondly, and its a great post to jar my memory, so thank you for that. I'm not in touch with too many LPers these days, just a few. It's interesting to wonder where everyone is at, I always viewed poker as being a kind of stepping stone before I continued on the normal life path of school / work, but damn its hard to quit. I'm still here grinding. Poker seems to have that effect.. even people who successfully transition out of poker tend to find their way back at one point or another, even if its just for a bit of fun


PuertoRican   United States. Jul 30 2022 10:22. Posts 13030

Good luck in the future, buddy.

On August 1, I'll return from my 1.5 month European vacation. I guess I'll write a blog about it to provide some content to LP.

Rekrul is a newb 

PuertoRican   United States. Jul 30 2022 10:37. Posts 13030


  On June 15 2022 18:48 Loco wrote:
Yeah Fayth was a sick grinder, probably still is. He's the one guy I've known to be basically addicted to owning people at something he's good at. He couldn't really see himself doing something else in life. Having a family didn't change that for him. But if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have had the motivation or confidence to do what I did back then.

As for me I stopped grinding anything for a few years and started living - exploring things I had neglected in life as a grinder. Studied things I was interested in, became involved in different groups. But more recently I started grinding something again - this time weightlifting. I enjoy the grind with something physical. It's familiar and yet novel. For work I got a job working on Google Stadia from home and it's very chill.


Does Fayth still breakdance? iirc, he was the small guy who attended WCG and was breakdancing at a certain point.

Rekrul is a newb 

Luna_Bluffgood   Germany. Aug 01 2022 22:01. Posts 1220

Insane list. Feeling very nostalgic rn.

Weird how LP sticks with one even though I only met a handful of guys fromhere in RL.


Bigbobm   United States. Aug 26 2022 04:16. Posts 5511

Just now stumbling upon this post. Very fond memories of making you uncomfortable. Sometimes, while waiting at stop lights, I’ll throw my car into park and crank the emergency break up, and giggle. I don’t know if you still do that, but part of me really hopes you do.

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

TimDawg    United States. Aug 31 2022 03:26. Posts 10197

Haven't been on LP in forever and just randomly decided to check it out while doing work stuff, eating pizza and drinking beer at a bar. I too share the nostalgia that so many other old legends from this forum have. I will also forever cherish many of those memories shared with you all. I was a dumb, young, and immature kid from Tennessee and was able to learn so much from so many of you sharing houses in Vegas or traveling to tournaments abroad.

As a funny side note I will share a quick story that involves some posters in this thread and Ket that will hopefully make some of you laugh:

I was 18 years old coming off of luckboxing the Sunday Million and playing in my first live tournament ever: The PCA main. The night before the tournament I got a chance to meet a lot of LPer's for the first time (BigBob, Mez, Alex, Nolan come to mind). Pokerstars threw an incredible party with free booze and food. As most dumb immature 18 year olds would do, I overly indulged. I completely blacked out and was told later on that I was on a mission to find IMSAKIDD (a notorious MSNL ratholer) and kill him. I woke up with no recollection of what happened and with every single piece of furniture in my hotel room stacked upon my bed. Bigbob and Alex and maneuvered all while I was passed out.

Fast forward to tournament time and I was able to shrug off my hangover as only an 18 year old kid can do. I'll never forget playing with Gavin Smith (RIP) and being nervous and rattled as shit. He could tell I was new to live poker and kept making fun of my &quot;internet bets&quot;. I had sold I think 50% of my action and Ket had a piece. He had gotten word that I was a stupid drunk mess the night before and came down pretty hard on me on LP. He was totally in the right and I was in the wrong of course. I feel like I learned a pretty valuable lesson after the fact in doing what is right, being professional, honorable, and having solid integrity. Later down the road we shared so many awesome experiences in Las Vegas and got along great. I feel very fortunate to have met you Ket and so many others from LP.

I miss all of you deeply and hope everyone is crushing life in their own unique way. And I'm certain all of you are

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Bigbobm   United States. Sep 01 2022 04:04. Posts 5511

Oh Tim, I had completely forgotten about doing that. Those were some damn good times.

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

lostaccount   Canada. Sep 08 2022 00:16. Posts 5739

The lurkers come out for kets blog lol

-_-;;Last edit: 08/09/2022 00:16

vurna   . Oct 27 2022 19:16. Posts 124

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hansen   Sweden. Oct 31 2022 22:07. Posts 1964

yo


PuertoRican   United States. Nov 02 2022 01:51. Posts 13030


  On September 07 2022 23:16 lostaccount wrote:
The lurkers come out for kets blog lol


Facts.

I'm still waiting for Rekrul to come out of hiding.

Rekrul is a newb 

MezmerizePLZ    United States. Nov 09 2022 05:38. Posts 2598


  On August 31 2022 02:26 TimDawg wrote:
Haven't been on LP in forever and just randomly decided to check it out while doing work stuff, eating pizza and drinking beer at a bar. I too share the nostalgia that so many other old legends from this forum have. I will also forever cherish many of those memories shared with you all. I was a dumb, young, and immature kid from Tennessee and was able to learn so much from so many of you sharing houses in Vegas or traveling to tournaments abroad.

As a funny side note I will share a quick story that involves some posters in this thread and Ket that will hopefully make some of you laugh:

I was 18 years old coming off of luckboxing the Sunday Million and playing in my first live tournament ever: The PCA main. The night before the tournament I got a chance to meet a lot of LPer's for the first time (BigBob, Mez, Alex, Nolan come to mind). Pokerstars threw an incredible party with free booze and food. As most dumb immature 18 year olds would do, I overly indulged. I completely blacked out and was told later on that I was on a mission to find IMSAKIDD (a notorious MSNL ratholer) and kill him. I woke up with no recollection of what happened and with every single piece of furniture in my hotel room stacked upon my bed. Bigbob and Alex and maneuvered all while I was passed out.

Fast forward to tournament time and I was able to shrug off my hangover as only an 18 year old kid can do. I'll never forget playing with Gavin Smith (RIP) and being nervous and rattled as shit. He could tell I was new to live poker and kept making fun of my "internet bets". I had sold I think 50% of my action and Ket had a piece. He had gotten word that I was a stupid drunk mess the night before and came down pretty hard on me on LP. He was totally in the right and I was in the wrong of course. I feel like I learned a pretty valuable lesson after the fact in doing what is right, being professional, honorable, and having solid integrity. Later down the road we shared so many awesome experiences in Las Vegas and got along great. I feel very fortunate to have met you Ket and so many others from LP.

I miss all of you deeply and hope everyone is crushing life in their own unique way. And I'm certain all of you are



LOL
I seem to remember Bob pissing on a bible at one point


 



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