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K40Cheddar   United States. Oct 21 2017 00:05. Posts 2202

4-5% seems way way too high

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Oct 21 2017 00:37. Posts 3093

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...ual_orientation#Modern_survey_results

seems to vary a lot, but naw, 4-5% does not seem too high. Seems like the number of people who identify as gay has increased quite drastically as society has become more accepting, though, which obviously makes sense. Modern studies seem to give higher than 4-5% for gay+bisexual in most accepting countries. I'm inclined to believe that there isn't actually that big a difference between countries in how many people actually are gay, that while there can be regional differences (cities having more than rural areas because gay people move to the more accepting urban areas), most countries overall should have about the same %. And then it'd seem like the numbers from the more accepting countries would be more likely to give the right number. And at least if you add gay+bisexual together, it seems like recent studies generally give at least 4-5%.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 00:52. Posts 6540

I don’t like groups of people that overwhine.

I also don’t like groups that get more than the rest of society, I think they are privledged.

I also think feminists are privileged.

Same views toward refugees or economic migrants from ME countries.

It doesn’t mean I hate or even dislike all females Muslims and lgbts. I just don’t like certain traits about them. Fuck me for being a conservative, racist, sexist, homophobe right?

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 00:58. Posts 6540

Gays shouldn’t be allowed to marry, gender pay gap is a myth, abortion is murder. Pizzagate is real.

Omfg wobbly is a nazi.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 00:59. Posts 6540

Stroggoz I think your views along with the vocal majority are disturbing. But that’s ok we are allowed to have different opinions I hope.

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 21 2017 01:01. Posts 9634



  On October 20 2017 22:46 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Not being mistreated lol? It's true that they have high suicide rates. That's a direct consequence of bullying.. Yes they are far more accepted than they were even a decade ago, but this is far from universal. Average high schooler in a liberal coastal city, sure, they accept gays. Average 50 year old in rural midwest, nope. I also don't think gay people are whining and being loud asking for needless attention on matters that don't mean shit, I feel you making that claim is basically you mistreating them.


Nope the LGBT has become the same shit as SJW movements, oversensitive people crying for attention. It's the same as right-wing feminism nowadays.

If you think there s any movement that will change the views of a 50yo + then you're mistaken. People that age won't change their views on anything, let alone sexual orientation.

I'm sick and tired of having homosexual stuff shoved in my face yet not being given the opportunity to say anything bad about it. I honestly couldn't care less what people prefer to do in their bedrooms and i don't care about who you wanna marry, however when you ask society to treat you as something special then I'm not gonna be fine with that.

Also, there's nobody "born like that" ... there have been plenty of genetic studies showing that nobody's born homosexual. Which means that its something abnormal, which means that there could be a solution. And my main issue is that people would instantly bash me for calling it "abnormal" or a "problem", considering its something unnatural. Now obviously the research funds distributed to such a cause which finds a solution would be nonexistent since the same SJW will bash on them.

People like to judge quickly and jump from one extreme to the other, as if it's illogical to treat it as a problem, accepting people who are homosexual as they are while finding a solution for future generations.

So yeah there's that

 Last edit: 21/10/2017 01:03

wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 01:08. Posts 6540


  On October 21 2017 00:01 Spitfiree wrote:

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Nope the LGBT has become the same shit as SJW movements, oversensitive people crying for attention. It's the same as right-wing feminism nowadays.

If you think there s any movement that will change the views of a 50yo + then you're mistaken. People that age won't change their views on anything, let alone sexual orientation.

I'm sick and tired of having homosexual stuff shoved in my face yet not being given the opportunity to say anything bad about it. I honestly couldn't care less what people prefer to do in their bedrooms and i don't care about who you wanna marry, however when you ask society to treat you as something special then I'm not gonna be fine with that.

Also, there's nobody "born like that" ... there have been plenty of genetic studies showing that nobody's born homosexual. Which means that its something abnormal, which means that there could be a solution. And my main issue is that people would instantly bash me for calling it "abnormal" or a "problem", considering its something unnatural. Now obviously the research funds distributed to such a cause which finds a solution would be nonexistent since the same SJW will bash on them.

People like to judge quickly and jump from one extreme to the other, as if it's illogical to treat it as a problem, accepting people who are homosexual as they are while finding a solution for future generations.

So yeah there's that


QFT

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Stroggoz   New Zealand. Oct 21 2017 01:17. Posts 5290


  On October 20 2017 23:52 wobbly_au wrote:
I don’t like groups of people that overwhine.

I also don’t like groups that get more than the rest of society, I think they are privledged.

I also think feminists are privileged.

Same views toward refugees or economic migrants from ME countries.

It doesn’t mean I hate or even dislike all females Muslims and lgbts. I just don’t like certain traits about them. Fuck me for being a conservative, racist, sexist, homophobe right?




but you used to make whine posts about running below ev all the time, imo you were overwhining since you still made a million. Also that makes you part of a group in society that has significant financial privileged over everyone else. Given your assumptions you should dislike yourself.

It's much harder to live life as a serious feminist (not a person who argues over twitter), than to do nothing. it is not a privilege, no one want's to give you any privileges for challenging injustices. If you take the time to contact some actual feminists they will probably take the time to explain in a rational and empirical way why you are wrong.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 21/10/2017 01:25

wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 01:32. Posts 6540


  On October 21 2017 00:17 Stroggoz wrote:
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but you used to make whine posts about running below ev all the time, imo you were overwhining since you still made a million. Also that makes you part of a group in society that has significant financial privileged over everyone else. Given your assumptions you should dislike yourself.

It's much harder to live life as a serious feminist (not a person who argues over twitter), than to do nothing. it is not a privilege, no one want's to give you any privileges for challenging injustices. If you take the time to contact some actual feminists they will probably take the time to explain in a rational and empirical way why you are wrong.


Nothing against real feminists, but they are definitely not representative of feminism today. I worked hard for every damn dollar I dont think you understand what "privilege is" you should google it.

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Syntax   United States. Oct 21 2017 01:37. Posts 4415

agree with wobbles 100%

edit: surprised at how many SJW leftist in lp

wut wut wutLast edit: 21/10/2017 01:39

PoorUser    United States. Oct 21 2017 02:18. Posts 7471


  On October 21 2017 00:01 Spitfiree wrote:

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Also, there's nobody "born like that" ... there have been plenty of genetic studies showing that nobody's born homosexual. Which means that its something abnormal, which means that there could be a solution. And my main issue is that people would instantly bash me for calling it "abnormal" or a "problem", considering its something unnatural. Now obviously the research funds distributed to such a cause which finds a solution would be nonexistent since the same SJW will bash on them.

im curious what studies you are reading. it was my understanding that most of the recent literature favors a biological/genetic component in sexuality

i should also point out that the word abnormal, at least in psychology (since you are eschewing biological causes), tends to only be applied to behavior that is considered maladaptive. it feels to me like you are using "abnormal" to mean "different", and if thats so - i dont think arguing that point of view as something that needs to be fixed will get very far. if you meant "abnormal" to mean maladaptive, then i suppose you mean it only in the sense that it's maladaptive mostly because society isnt all that onboard with it yet (i didnt think you meant it this way since you talked about not caring what people do in their own bedroom which means it wouldnt be a problem socially for you which means it wouldnt need fixing). i think a look back at history makes this argument not go very far either.

i guess you could argue homosexuality being maladaptive for different reasons but i dont really see it.

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Liquid`Drone   Norway. Oct 21 2017 02:36. Posts 3093

Spitfire, how are homosexuals asking to be treated as something special? They're asking to be treated as if they are normal.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 03:15. Posts 6540


  On October 21 2017 01:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Spitfire, how are homosexuals asking to be treated as something special? They're asking to be treated as if they are normal.



For one the recent bill that passed in California that decriminalized spreading HIV
Asking public funding to spread same sex marriage
Using public money to PROMOTE same sex.

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deathstar   United States. Oct 21 2017 04:12. Posts 111


  On October 20 2017 19:24 wobbly_au wrote:
They whine a lot, cost a lot for the state due to mental issues and high suicide rates. They are destructive to the family unit and they can’t reproduce.

Definitely a minus to be lgbt as oppose to straight.



My half sister is a lesbian and she had in vitro fertilization. She reproduced and started a family.
How exactly is she destructive to the family unit?


wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 04:59. Posts 6540


  On October 21 2017 03:12 deathstar wrote:
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My half sister is a lesbian and she had in vitro fertilization. She reproduced and started a family.
How exactly is she destructive to the family unit?


Nothing personal but my view is that a traditional unit with a father and a mother is better than having two mothers or two fathers. When both parents arent genetically connected to their offspring there are negative consequences.

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deathstar   United States. Oct 21 2017 06:59. Posts 111


  On October 21 2017 03:59 wobbly_au wrote:
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Nothing personal but my view is that a traditional unit with a father and a mother is better than having two mothers or two fathers. When both parents arent genetically connected to their offspring there are negative consequences.



Adoption is a really good thing. I don't know why you would say that it has negative consequences.
I know of father mother families, that are abusive, physically, verbally, towards their children. Mothers who are overbearing, controlling, shaming, not allowing a child self expression. Is common place in the tradition family unit.
A two mother or two father family would be less likely to be abusive imo, more accepting of their children for who they are instead of trying to clay model their children into success robots for sake of family pride and vanity.
Gender abuse is common place among traditional family units. While not so much for same sex family units.


Trav94   Canada. Oct 21 2017 07:26. Posts 1785


  On October 21 2017 01:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Spitfire, how are homosexuals asking to be treated as something special? They're asking to be treated as if they are normal.



Do you live 30 years in the past? In what world are gays not treated as normal? In fact, worst case scenario gays get treated as normal. Average gays are treated much better than your average straight person. Society just fucking panders to any minority group that screams about how oppressed they are these days.


wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 07:37. Posts 6540


  On October 21 2017 05:59 deathstar wrote:
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Adoption is a really good thing. I don't know why you would say that it has negative consequences.
I know of father mother families, that are abusive, physically, verbally, towards their children. Mothers who are overbearing, controlling, shaming, not allowing a child self expression. Is common place in the tradition family unit.
A two mother or two father family would be less likely to be abusive imo, more accepting of their children for who they are instead of trying to clay model their children into success robots for sake of family pride and vanity.
Gender abuse is common place among traditional family units. While not so much for same sex family units.



Statistics don’t agree with you.

I just want to clarify that adoption isnt always bad, just saying its not AS GOOD or worse than not adopting when LGBT groups do it.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 07:40. Posts 6540


  On October 21 2017 06:26 Trav94 wrote:
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Do you live 30 years in the past? In what world are gays not treated as normal? In fact, worst case scenario gays get treated as normal. Average gays are treated much better than your average straight person. Society just fucking panders to any minority group that screams about how oppressed they are these days.


The gays in first world countries that are always screaming, "people are throwing gays off the buildings" gets me THE MOST.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 21 2017 07:43. Posts 6540

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kids-of-...dy-finds-but-draws-fire-from-experts/

But hush we can't talk about it, they are being oppressed.

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