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deathstar   United States. Oct 24 2017 07:47. Posts 111


  On October 24 2017 02:25 wobbly_au wrote:
I say it is you say it isn't. (Infinite loop, but I'm okay with that)

Im talking about the nonsense with gender fluidity and how it is being taught in sexed classes. Im talking about Bill Nye representing science education to kids teaching it on netflix. Im talking about parents giving their child and teens hormone therapy. Im talking about the public promotion and normalizing of LGBT.



are you a troll?
"Im talking about parents giving their child and teens hormone therapy."
Have you ever talked to a transperson about what the wrong puberty is like? I'm transgender. It was torture. I had 100s of suicidal thoughts everyday during puberty with no awareness of a self. I wish I could go back in time and just tell my foster parents that I'm a girl that I need the correct hormones in my body. But it was an all boys home. All girl things were forbidden. Androgyny was forbidden. Homosexuality was forbidden. Even long hair was forbidden.
I left that school when my father got out of prison. He encouraged me to play poker and so I did. I was rank 1 on pokerstars in 2010 for mtt after playing for 3 months. But my feelings of nothingness, misery and suicidal depression continued all the way from age 12 to age 30 when I found out I have a self and that I'm female.
Now I'm playing poker again after a 7 year hiatus saving money to have surgery. I'm a redhead so laser hair removal doesn't work for me. I have to do electrolysis. having hairs removed from my face 1 at a time. Its about 50% as painful as a bee sting. I cry and pray to god for strength to get through 30 minutes of electrolysis. And there are some 10,000 hairs to remove. This is the result of being born with the wrong reproductive organs and not having hormone treatment during my teens.
A lot of untold misery and suffering in adulthood would of been avoided if I was just allowed to be myself as a child and a teen.
I can't wait to have my adam's apple shaved. I think I'll finally pass and be able to wear skirts in public without having to worry about being physically assaulted by men I don't even know. I hate wearing pants.
My hair has grown the longest its ever been. I want to grow it longer.

I think normalizing LGBT is healthy for society because it will reduce suicide/homicide rates.

 Last edit: 24/10/2017 08:09

wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 08:08. Posts 6540


  On October 24 2017 06:47 deathstar wrote:
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are you a troll?
"Im talking about parents giving their child and teens hormone therapy."
Have you ever talked to a transperson about what the wrong puberty is like? I'm transgender. It was torture. I had 100s of suicidal thoughts everyday during puberty with no awareness of a self. I wish I could go back in time and just tell my foster parents that I'm a girl that I need the correct hormones in my body. But it was an all boys home. All girl things were forbidden. Androgyny was forbidden. Homosexuality was forbidden. Even long hair was forbidden.
I left that school when my father got out of prison. He encouraged me to play poker and so I did. I was rank 1 on pokerstars in 2010 for mtt after playing for 3 months. But my feelings of nothingness, misery and suicidal depression continued all the way from age 12 to age 30 when I found out I have a self and that I'm female.
Now I'm playing poker again after a 7 year hiatus saving money to have surgery. I'm a redhead so laser hair removal doesn't work for me. I have to do electrolysis. having hairs removed from my face 1 at a time. Its about 50% as painful as a bee sting. I often cry and pray to god for strength to get through 30 minutes of electrolysis. And there are some 10,000 hairs to remove.
A lot of untold misery and suffering in adulthood would of been avoided if I was just allowed to be myself as a child and a teen but that was forbidden.
I can't wait to have my adam's apple shaved. I think I'll finally pass and be able to wear skirts in public without having to worry about being physically assaulted by men I don't even know. I hate wearing pants.
My hair has grown the longest its ever been.

I think normalizing LGBT is healthy for society because it will reduce suicide/homicide rates.


That’s a sad story, but no amount of surgery or therapy will turn you into a women. Life played a cruel trick on you, you got dealt.a shit hand I hope you overcome it. But I do not hope being trans is promoted or normalized nor do I wish kids to get hormone treatment or taught about transgender or other sexual orientations.

The Last Laugh. 

deathstar   United States. Oct 24 2017 08:10. Posts 111


  On October 24 2017 07:08 wobbly_au wrote:
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That’s a sad story, but no amount of surgery or therapy will turn you into a women. Life played a cruel trick on you, you got dealt.a shit hand I hope you overcome it. But I do not hope being trans is promoted or normalized nor do I wish kids to get hormone treatment or taught about transgender or other sexual orientations.



Because I lack a uterus?


wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 08:11. Posts 6540

Plus you got issues outside of sexual alignment, you are living with foster parents with a dad in prison. In a better family with better role models maybe you would have been a better man and not so confused.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 08:12. Posts 6540


  On October 24 2017 07:10 deathstar wrote:
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Because I lack a uterus?



Because of your DNA structure.

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deathstar   United States. Oct 24 2017 08:13. Posts 111


  On October 24 2017 07:11 wobbly_au wrote:
Plus you got issues outside of sexual alignment, you are living with foster parents with a dad in prison. In a better family with better role models maybe you would have been a better man and not so confused.



Ok you made me laugh.


wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 08:14. Posts 6540


  On October 24 2017 07:13 deathstar wrote:
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Ok you made me laugh.


It’s the truth. Tell me about your mum, where is she? Did she die or did she abandon you? Why was your dad locked up? These seem like contributing factors to your illness.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 08:21. Posts 6540

If you would rather goto PMs since this is very personal for you I won’t mind but I am curious to hear from a trans person.

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deathstar   United States. Oct 24 2017 08:30. Posts 111


  On October 24 2017 07:12 wobbly_au wrote:
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Because of your DNA structure.



DNA determines sex, sex can be changed surgically.
Whats your problem with acceptance of LGBT people?
Its important that gender be explored for kids. There's a 1/200 chance the kid is transgender. Gender exploration increases self awareness.
I wish I had gender exploration and hormone treatment. You wish I didn't have hormone treatment?


wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 08:47. Posts 6540


  On October 24 2017 07:30 deathstar wrote:
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DNA determines sex, sex can be changed surgically.
Whats your problem with acceptance of LGBT people?
Its important that gender be explored for kids. There's a 1/200 chance the kid is transgender. Gender exploration increases self awareness.
I wish I had gender exploration and hormone treatment. You wish I didn't have hormone treatment?



I'll keep the personal details in the PM thread between you and I out of respect for privacy.

On the issue of kids and hormone treatment, I do wish kids not to be taught about gender alignment as kids mature sexually at different paces and studies are inconclusive on how much nature and nurture affect a person sexuality. I dont know this 0.5% figure but i'll take your word for it. It seems low enough that the issue should be explored on their own just like hetero kids explore sexuality on their own.

They will find issues finding peers to talk about their desires, but I think most people dont find it neccessisary to talk to their friends about their erections or attractions to the opposite sex.

It is up to your family not public schooling (Tax dollars) to teach you about sex and gender and reproduction or lack thereof. Just because I dont want LGBT agendas to be normalized doesnt mean I can't respect individual gay, lesbian or trans people. I already respect you for going through what you did and coming out of it a successful person. That doesnt mean I support all the views you hold though.

The Last Laugh. 

wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 08:56. Posts 6540



Didnt know this Ben Shapiro before but I was just youtubing out of curiousity and this guy sums up exactly my thoughts on the subject. He even mentions are study from Anderson UCLA regarding the fact that even if society normalizes transgenders it doesnt reduce the 40% suicide rate.

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 09:10. Posts 6540

After some 2x on youtube, I've realised this Ben Shapiro guy's views are very close to my own. The only difference is that I am not religious..



What is everyone's opinion on Ben's views?

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deathstar   United States. Oct 24 2017 09:16. Posts 111


wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 09:24. Posts 6540

Poor boy...

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Loco   Canada. Oct 24 2017 09:43. Posts 20963

Ben Shapiro, really? What next, Philippe Rushton mirrors your own thoughts on issues of race?

You are a really good example of someone who has dedicated an inordinate amount of time striving for money and personal status at the expense of knowledge and compassion, wobbly. I think you were dealt a worse hand than deathstar in some important respects, and it was really shitty of you to treat her how you did.

I agree with Stroggoz on everything and don't have anything more to add here.

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccountLast edit: 24/10/2017 10:14

wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 09:46. Posts 6540


  On October 24 2017 08:43 Loco wrote:
Ben Shapiro, really? What next, Philippe Rushton mirrors your own thoughts on issues of race?

You are a really good example of someone who has dedicated an inordinate amount of time striving for money and personal status at the expense of knowledge and compassion, wobbly. I think you were dealt a worse hand than deathstar in some important respects, and it was really shitty of you to treat them how you did.



I was dealt a pretty shit hand, but but by any measure it was still a lot easier than deathstar. Whats wrong with Ben Shapiro's views? Or Mine? Or do you only have arrogant personal attacks?

You are a good example of an ignorant asshole. (This can go forever) So please debate the views and points or stfu.

brb. Youtubing Philippe Rushton! Stop getting butt hurt and discuss things Loco.

The Last Laugh.Last edit: 24/10/2017 09:49

Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Oct 24 2017 09:51. Posts 9634

Don't see how there would be any harm coming from a simple sexual education course which handles all sensitive topics as well tbh. I think you're mistaking education with propaganda here wobbly.


wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 09:53. Posts 6540

Philippe Rushton seems to think different races have different traits and IQs. Whats wrong with that? This is biological truth, stop letting feefees from letting science and discussion progress.

I dont have time to watch alot of his content but from a quick skim it seems like he is a professor of evolution, it is his job to study this shit.. As a decent poker player you should know numbers and science doesnt lie, doesnt matter how oppressed or underpowered 27o is, it will always be a shit hand in holdem NL.

Each race has their own unique traits, advantages and disadvantages what is exactly wrong with that? Isn't a bit racist to imply that IQ is the ultimate measure on how good a race is?

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wobbly_au   Australia. Oct 24 2017 09:54. Posts 6540


  On October 24 2017 08:51 Spitfiree wrote:
Don't see how there would be any harm coming from a simple sexual education course which handles all sensitive topics as well tbh. I think you're mistaking education with propaganda here wobbly.



nah, please leave the teaching of penises, vaginas, reproduction and the mentally ill to me the father.

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deathstar   United States. Oct 24 2017 09:58. Posts 111


  On October 24 2017 08:24 wobbly_au wrote:
Poor boy...



Why would you address her incorrectly?
That's a girl. Gender identity is independent of natal sex. You should address her as her.
Having a penis doesn't mean boy.


 
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