I had to look it up. I am still not fully aware of the extent of this ridiculousness. Any movement towards the definitions above and what Baal was mentioning in his posts on feminism is not cool. Leave Hugh Mungus alone for God's sake. He's Hugh Mungus. I am glad I never see this stuff in the real world. I have a lot of friends who define themselves as feminist and I never hear the absurdities I am starting to hear online. I consider myself a feminist and someone that will stand up for social justice but would rather myself be characterized by my beliefs than wrap up a large portion of my identity as a feminist. That is just never going to happen. I can take it or leave it and if feminist these days is the crazy lefty nutsos I'll leave it.
Everybody talks about global warming, yet nobody talks about the cause, overpopulation.
We dont have the resources nor the time to transition to clean energy and the impact would be insignificant, the world cannot sustain our exponential growth it is absolutely crazy how obvious this is, we double the population every 70 years, and we are over 7 billion humans in this world, our ingenuity and technology have made it so that we can barely sustain our even growing number but if we cannot keep this exponential race up, and we probably cant mankind will brought to its knees
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waga United Kingdom. Oct 31 2016 23:33. Posts 2375
that's why I fuck my girls in the ass ...
to save the planet.
Not to be a debbie downer but I feel like in a few decades humanity will have to do something about the overpopulation and I doubt its gonna be pretty.
On October 31 2016 23:18 Spitfiree wrote:
Not to be a debbie downer but I feel like in a few decades humanity will have to do something about the overpopulation and I doubt its gonna be pretty.
inb4 free "shuttles" to Mars
I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson
On October 31 2016 23:18 Spitfiree wrote:
Not to be a debbie downer but I feel like in a few decades humanity will have to do something about the overpopulation and I doubt its gonna be pretty.
The only way that sounds reasonable is to condition aid to the third world on the condition to put harsh population control measures like China did, but will that work? I have no idea if a country like India have a level of control to do such a thing
Christians love to procreate. It is part of "God's" plan. Even if it leads to the end of the world at least that's when Jesus makes a great comeback and saves everyone.
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The most populated country in the world is made mostly of atheists. I know people don't know that since some bureaucrat decided to fill in useless statistics but still... China's population mostly does not believe or does not care about God. Then you have India most of which is Hindu. Then you have Indonesia which is biggest muslim country in the world, those being the top3 most populated and are about 40-42% of the worlds pop. I honestly can't think of many christian countries that have a positive population growth, I'm guessing Mexico/Brazil/USA, but Europe consists of mostly negative growth
Its far from religion, its the lack of purpose and education and basic human rights and so on.
On November 01 2016 09:16 Spitfiree wrote:
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The most populated country in the world is made mostly of atheists. I know people don't know that since some bureaucrat decided to fill in useless statistics but still... China's population mostly does not believe or does not care about God. Then you have India most of which is Hindu. Then you have Indonesia which is biggest muslim country in the world, those being the top3 most populated and are about 40-42% of the worlds pop. I honestly can't think of many christian countries that have a positive population growth, I'm guessing Mexico/Brazil/USA, but Europe consists of mostly negative growth
Its far from religion, its the lack of purpose and education and basic human rights and so on.
Everybody talks about global warming, yet nobody talks about the cause, overpopulation.
We dont have the resources nor the time to transition to clean energy and the impact would be insignificant, the world cannot sustain our exponential growth it is absolutely crazy how obvious this is, we double the population every 70 years, and we are over 7 billion humans in this world, our ingenuity and technology have made it so that we can barely sustain our even growing number but if we cannot keep this exponential race up, and we probably cant mankind will brought to its knees
Yeah but it's the BBC, of course they won't want to go into details about the truth, since it challenges our most basic of human rights, no matter how insane it is. We can't prevent people from breeding in a "free society". Essentially, people need to be rewarded into doing the right thing otherwise most people won't, and we can't rely on a few super wealthy or genius figures to save humanity. It's just like with the health care crisis: instead of having people being informed and taking responsibility for their health, people rely on a broken medical system where the incentives are going in the wrong direction. The deficit just gets bigger and bigger while people wait for outside forces to solve problems that their own lifestyle and environment caused 90% of the time.
There isn't one good reason to imagine we can get out of this trouble. We've known enough about these issues for so long and have done nothing meaningful. On a personal note, even the "environmentalist" hippies I know are now having kids. I truly am convinced that it will take nothing less than a catastrophe. I've lost all hope for humanity and I'm beyond weeping for it - I just hope that there won't get to be too many catastrophes before the final one. Not everyone deserves the pain that's coming.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
The nutritional establishment wasn’t greatly discomfited by the absence of definitive proof, but by 1993 it found that it couldn’t evade another criticism: while a low-fat diet had been recommended to women, it had never been tested on them (a fact that is astonishing only if you are not a nutrition scientist). The National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute decided to go all in, commissioning the largest controlled trial of diets ever undertaken. As well as addressing the other half of the population, the Women’s Health Initiative was expected to obliterate any lingering doubts about the ill-effects of fat.
It did nothing of the sort. At the end of the trial, it was found that women on the low-fat diet were no less likely than the control group to contract cancer or heart disease. This caused much consternation. The study’s principal researcher, unwilling to accept the implications of his own findings, remarked: “We are scratching our heads over some of these results.” A consensus quickly formed that the study – meticulously planned, lavishly funded, overseen by impressively credentialed researchers – must have been so flawed as to be meaningless. The field moved on, or rather did not.
In 2008, researchers from Oxford University undertook a Europe-wide study of the causes of heart disease. Its data shows an inverse correlation between saturated fat and heart disease, across the continent. France, the country with the highest intake of saturated fat, has the lowest rate of heart disease; Ukraine, the country with the lowest intake of saturated fat, has the highest. When the British obesity researcher Zoë Harcombe performed an analysis of the data on cholesterol levels for 192 countries around the world, she found that lower cholesterol correlated with higher rates of death from heart disease.
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Liquid`Drone Norway. Nov 01 2016 19:06. Posts 3093
the problem with pointing to overpopulation as the cause of climate problems is that the only solutions that keeps us from reaching 10-11 billion (and at that point, it will probably stabilize) are a) killing people b) immediate imposition of world wide actual government 'birth control'. Neither is really plausible.
It's like, I totally get the argument and I'm not doubting its validity in the slightest, but to me, pointing to overpopulation rather than consumerism out of whack is kinda like, conceding that the world is gonna get increasingly more fucked up until a giant catastrophe happens. Addressing consumer habits (and obviously the meat industry is huge in this) at least gives some hope of a better future, and even if that might be futile, it's even more futile if it's perceived as futile. Kinda like the whole, it's largely better for people to think they have free will than to realize they don't, it's better for humanity if we pretend that we have the ability to get together and change stuff positively. It's not like this is a binary question of either climate change happens or it doesn't.
On November 01 2016 18:06 Liquid`Drone wrote:
the problem with pointing to overpopulation as the cause of climate problems is that the only solutions that keeps us from reaching 10-11 billion (and at that point, it will probably stabilize) are a) killing people b) immediate imposition of world wide actual government 'birth control'. Neither is really plausible.
It's like, I totally get the argument and I'm not doubting its validity in the slightest, but to me, pointing to overpopulation rather than consumerism out of whack is kinda like, conceding that the world is gonna get increasingly more fucked up until a giant catastrophe happens. Addressing consumer habits (and obviously the meat industry is huge in this) at least gives some hope of a better future, and even if that might be futile, it's even more futile if it's perceived as futile. Kinda like the whole, it's largely better for people to think they have free will than to realize they don't, it's better for humanity if we pretend that we have the ability to get together and change stuff positively. It's not like this is a binary question of either climate change happens or it doesn't.
There isn't just those two options though. There is at least one more, which is the one I stated a couple posts above yours: having government incentives to not have kids (or have only 1 kid) instead of the opposite (I'm sure Baal could also explain a way to do this under anarchy). People could be paid to have themselves sterilized, like Project Prevention does. Of course, this doesn't deal with the fact that it's people in third world countries that are procreating the most, but they also don't have a fraction of our ecological footprint...
Yes, we could imagine that it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy if everyone just gave up, but that's not realistic at all. Optimism is hard-wired into people and deeply entrenched into our culture as well, so there is no worry to be had there. It's the things people are optimistic about that should worry us. Very few people actually have a good heart and want to be of service to others and those few are rarely ever in a position of great power and influence. And when they are, they are vastly outnumbered and overpowered. It's easier to destroy things than it is to build and maintain them. The intractable problems we are facing would require humanity to come together in a way that is currently unimaginable considering what we know of history and human nature. I don't think selling this illusion matters at all: wherever there are problems, there will be people trying to fix them. It's the meaning of life for the intelligent/compassionate people.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On November 01 2016 09:16 Spitfiree wrote:
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The most populated country in the world is made mostly of atheists. I know people don't know that since some bureaucrat decided to fill in useless statistics but still... China's population mostly does not believe or does not care about God. Then you have India most of which is Hindu. Then you have Indonesia which is biggest muslim country in the world, those being the top3 most populated and are about 40-42% of the worlds pop. I honestly can't think of many christian countries that have a positive population growth, I'm guessing Mexico/Brazil/USA, but Europe consists of mostly negative growth
Its far from religion, its the lack of purpose and education and basic human rights and so on.
lol ALL of america is christian and has a very positive population growth, and we are way more than all the europeans combined
Everybody talks about global warming, yet nobody talks about the cause, overpopulation.
We dont have the resources nor the time to transition to clean energy and the impact would be insignificant, the world cannot sustain our exponential growth it is absolutely crazy how obvious this is, we double the population every 70 years, and we are over 7 billion humans in this world, our ingenuity and technology have made it so that we can barely sustain our even growing number but if we cannot keep this exponential race up, and we probably cant mankind will brought to its knees
Yeah but it's the BBC, of course they won't want to go into details about the truth, since it challenges our most basic of human rights, no matter how insane it is. We can't prevent people from breeding in a "free society". Essentially, people need to be rewarded into doing the right thing otherwise most people won't, and we can't rely on a few super wealthy or genius figures to save humanity. It's just like with the health care crisis: instead of having people being informed and taking responsibility for their health, people rely on a broken medical system where the incentives are going in the wrong direction. The deficit just gets bigger and bigger while people wait for outside forces to solve problems that their own lifestyle and environment caused 90% of the time.
There isn't one good reason to imagine we can get out of this trouble. We've known enough about these issues for so long and have done nothing meaningful. On a personal note, even the "environmentalist" hippies I know are now having kids. I truly am convinced that it will take nothing less than a catastrophe. I've lost all hope for humanity and I'm beyond weeping for it - I just hope that there won't get to be too many catastrophes before the final one. Not everyone deserves the pain that's coming.
The problem is government by nature is near sighted as it is formed by well... mortals.
The government has no incentive to reduce population, on the contrary more population means more taxation etc, so unless population is actually a huge strain and out of control then they have to impose insane measures like China did, and China is one of the few totalitarian governments that can pull that off, I dont see that happening in India ever.
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