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On October 21 2016 01:38 lebowski wrote: yeah, now try to get banned yourself so you'll fulfill your martyrdom vs all the hypocrites. You're such a cliche. You don't know (or care for) what evidence really means, enjoy your intellectual dishonesty along with your bitterness. And since you have to start personal attacks to confirm that you're only comfortable chatting from the bottom of the pyramid I Iinked above, I'll speak in a similar manner. Why would I be invested in such a "religion" you moron. I don't give a fuck if Asians are the average smartest or dumbest race or whatever. I'm ready to accept the world as it is.

Nice.


Im also puzzled why is he trying so hard to get people to acknowledge races? I think in his tiny brain this world is only composed of super left SJW who will deny the existence of genders or race and his ignorant alt-right buddies.

So you think there are genetic differences between blacks, caucaisians, asians, latinos etc, all right fine, so? are you purposing some kind of eugenics or where are you going with this?

On October 21 2016 04:54 Mortensen8 wrote: You think I would talk about communists and atheists being christians if I was still a christcuck. I've explained to your culty vegan ass multiple times that switching to veganism does nothing for the environment or health you are latching on to some lame movement to fulfill your life. MODERN AGRICULTURE IS THE REAL CULPRIT and fuck you too. Racism your scaremongering words dont work on me hippie. Racial differences backed by scientific research. The new religion of multiculturalism is built on a lie and all of you morally superior humanoids are going to wake up and smell the coffee once the gravy train runs out. I ACCEPT THE BAN! baal you are a christcuck at heart even though you deny it. Loco I hope you get vitamin b12 deficiency and lebowski you are a rare breed a cuck-slav.

I have no doubt that's all valid in the alternative reality you live in, but it all falls down with even just the slightest bit of scrutiny. Lol at the irony of calling me 'culty' when you are truly the epitome of Hoffer's True Believer.

It's hilarious that you're still hung up on B12. I know I just said I wouldn't bring up nutrition but this is too ironic to pass up. You blame modern practices for everything and yet you still haven't realized that B12 deficiency is a modern phenomenon that is entirely caused by modern sanitization practices since B12 is created by bacteria. Low B12 is rampant across all age groups in US adults, about 40% percent of people are low. Are 40% of Americans vegan? I think not. Here's my vitamin B12 result from my last blood test. You'll have to find something else because it's actually too high by one point.

one of my fav shows, this happened to popup on my youtube feed, this one's for rikd!

Aint nobody got time fo that ill refer you to the autiste


http://www.academia.edu/3802123/Commu...se_and_Failed_Prophecy_of_an_Ideology

I am an anarchist, so to me, you are a "normalfag" who hides under the states skirt because you cannot live in freedom, many of the reasons you dislike liberals.

You have no power here, your recycled religious pseudo-right vitriol has no targets in this thread, most of us dont align with the left and follow its dogma, this isnt Gawker, so your trolling attempts fall in deaf ears, they are just spectated as the pathetic transparent ideas of a dull mind that imported its ideas from a very common dogma, and as usual you wont even engage in intelligent discussion, you are not looking to improve your ideas or pursue any kind of truth, that would require some actual intellectual effort and as most people that is too much to ask from you.

On October 25 2016 02:10 Mortensen8 wrote:

Ah Stefan Molyneux, he introduced me to anarchy and I listed to him for a long time, it has been a great disillusion to see him fall into what seems like almost madness, his anarchy talks turned into parenting ones when he got a child, then he went on about misogynist ramblings (and that is coming from a strong anti-feminist so I dont use that term lightly), then he went as far as to say that you should keep away from ANYONE who isnt an anarchist, because they support violence against you and now he is a strong Trump supporter that has reduced his debating skills to "not an argument".

I guess now I know how catholics feel when they realize that Mother Theresa was a fucking psychopath.

Molyneux is an uneducated idiot, followed by uneducated idiots.

On October 25 2016 14:36 uiCk wrote: Molyneux is an uneducated idiot, followed by uneducated idiots.

It's not an argument

On October 25 2016 21:36 uiCk wrote: It's not an argument

Well said Baal.

This thread definitely gets polluted at times.

To perhaps get some actual discussion started again.

What do people have against feminism?

feminism

the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

On October 26 2016 08:50 RiKD wrote: To perhaps get some actual discussion started again. What do people have against feminism? feminism the advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

Because that is not really feminism at all, at least not modern 3rd wave feminism, it is absolutely dishonest to say "feminist means equality so if you are not a feminist you are a bigot", they always do that bullshit.

3rd wave feminsts (ill just call it feminism for simplicity from now on), does not seek equal rights and does not look for both gender problems, in fact they boycott anything that speaks about mens right and brand it as misoginy, for example in Spain there were adds raising awareness about domestic violence, some posters had women beaten down, some men being beat down by women, well feminist went absolutely apeshit about portraying a male as a victim.

Feminists claim there is a wage gap, that has been demonstrated false over and over, yet that doesnt stop Obama for pandering to these idiots by saying the gap exists, which is just the average money women earn vs average money men ear, regardless of occupation... so yeah turns out we make different life choices and women tend to go into lower paid jobs, obviously the humanities pay much lower than STEM fields, and actually women under 30 outearn men in the same field.

Justin Trudeau said a few weeks ago "Poverty is sexist" portraying women as unequal victims despise the fact men are more likely to fall in poverty and make up about 80% of homeless.

Feminists also are pushing for a lot of absurd legislation for example, they believe that if a woman has consensual sex, but regrets it after the next day, she can retroactivly withdraw consent and it would be labeled as rape, also if the woman have consumed ANY amount of alcohol, and has sex with a man, feminists believe she is a victim of rape, and yes when I say ANY amount I mean a single beer, and no, it doesnt work both ways for them, women cannot rape men.

Feminists believe men abuse space by spreading our legs too wide in public transport and they call it "manspreading", they also believe offices are sexist because the thermostats are set to mens standards, that are too cold for women.


I can go on about this shit forever, they are absolutely insane.

So mad though Baal, seems like absolutely none of these things have any impact on your life (or most people), and just mad for some other reason then the perceived "feminism abuse" you seem to portray. Not to mention the extreme generalization you applied here.



To add:
My POV is that most improvements in last century in terms of women in the workplace is mostly due to economic factors and models: a consumer economy thrives the more consumers there are, and giving purchasing power to women was natural given the economic models that came from the industrial era.
Feminism is more of a reaction to that specific change, and it's not actual "feminism" movements that created those changes. (Which is why I find it funny Baal is so critical, since these social movements don't actually make that much of difference nor do they have actual policy power)
As for pay-gap, wether it exists or not (def does outside of a few developed states, which one can argue that there is no gender gap), it balances out naturally, wether there are feminist movements or not, since economic systems trump whatever social movements in terms of real change, and makes no sense for Women to be underpaid, since you want everyone to have enough purchasing power to keep given economy going.

Tldr
Social Changes occur due to technological/scientific/economic improvements and social movements are a mere reaction to those natural occurring changes.

The wage gap does not exist in developed countries, USA, Canada, Europe, Australia etc, if it exist in less developed countries I dont know, you seem so sure could you provide the evidence or are you pulling it out of your ass?

You speak about economy as if there were some overlord controlling it, women dont get less money because you want everyone to have purchasing power? wrong, thats now how economy work, women are not being paid less than men doing the same quality of a job because otherwise businesses would reduce employment expenses by 25% by hiring women, so bigotry would be quite expensive, .

You are also wrong thinking they dont have any weight when it comes to legislation, there are many gender and race quotas to be filled in many parts of the world, I quoted Obama and Trudeau speaking about how women earn less, now Universities require to handle rape accusations in certain ridiculous ways or they dont get government funding, you are clueless if you believe they have no policy power.




And obviously im generalizing, not all feminist believe women can withdraw consent, but some do, and if its a movement for equal rights and concerned about the rights of both genders, then could you please tell me when have they marched about mens right or equality? Have you seen a march against male overpopulating deadly and badly paid jobs or something like that?

now that we are talking about feminist I cant let pass the opportunity to post about the hero, Hugh Mungus:

This is worth a listen (audio is fixed after a couple mins). The title is a bit misleading; you get the impression from it that they've established that there is a meaning and they're discussing that, but in fact they're doing a sort of overview of different perspectives and narratives and sharing their thoughts on them. The discussion is broad and overlaps with some talk about consciousness, free will and phenomenology. You need to be familiar with some important philosophers to follow at certain points but it's overall fairly accessible.

On October 27 2016 08:18 Baalim wrote:+ Show Spoiler + now that we are talking about feminist I cant let pass the opportunity to post about the hero, Hugh Mungus:

just because you are unjustly accused of something doesn't make you a hero.

On October 27 2016 19:53 jeremy5408 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 27 2016 08:18 Baalim wrote:+ Show Spoiler + now that we are talking about feminist I cant let pass the opportunity to post about the hero, Hugh Mungus: just because you are unjustly accused of something doesn't make you a hero.