ElkY and Veldhuis Kickboxing Fight Completed

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pic seconds before starting the fight

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Is a video going to be released?

they haaaave to release the video...surely

On November 22 2011 17:20 LikeASet wrote: Is a video going to be released?

On November 22 2011 17:23 julep wrote: they haaaave to release the video...surely

Reading is a lost art.

On November 22 2011 17:09 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: pic seconds before starting the fight + Show Spoiler +

i loled so hard

grats raszi, i was gonna put my $ on elky if I was gonna bet

need full video with decent quality.

grats raszi!

Lex vs. Badr Hari in 2012.

rofl @ top video comment

"filmed by a drunk guy with Parkinson."

On November 22 2011 17:06 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: [quote] The much anticipated kickboxing match

I'm sure all 23 fans in attendance had a wonderful time

edit: surprised it ended in the second round. from what was said about elky training so hard, thought he definitely would have had a relatively big advantage.

nice roundhouse kick to the face

lol tbh I was gonna put 100$ on elky, but luckily Lex never responded to my message on his website =)))

Nice fight. Respect to both for putting it all out there. Grats and headkick looked really hard and fast.

fk

damn it!
I owe Naz 1k
and PuertoRican we had the bet for $100 right?

I hope Elky is ok!

We had a bet, but cant remember for how much.

Never mind, I found it. It was $50.

On April 11 2011 01:13 HeroPoker-CEO wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2011 00:43 PuertoRican wrote:   On April 11 2011 00:11 Nazgul wrote: call, send on ps? Damn you ;(   On April 11 2011 00:36 HeroPoker-CEO wrote:   On April 11 2011 00:11 Nazgul wrote: call, send on ps? Cash whenever you see me or I see you. ^^ Or I can wire it to you- whoever wires it has to pay the banking fees as well on both sides keke. I'll put $50 on Raszi winning if you decide to take anymore bets~ Done at $50 ^^

In this thread: http://www.liquidpoker.net/news/96753...ky_to_face_off_in_kickboxing_fight#28

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Too bad I cant search peoples post history like you can at TL.

lmao puertorican just scoopin free $$$

Lol so funny to hear all the exciting dutch people .
GG

Naz knows his fighting, I would never bet against him

you go to the dutch when you want the best modified muay thai training, no surprise

14 minute unedited HD video from the fight. Lex "RaSZi" Veldhuis vs. Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier kickboxing match in Marbella, Spain. Video and excellent camera skills courtesy of Louk Peperkamp.

raszi was winning 100%. after you meet them both irl, raszi is taller, stronger and has a tenacity to him.

elky isn't the fighting type imo

On November 23 2011 01:17 Webjoker wrote: 14 minute unedited HD video from the fight. Lex "RaSZi" Veldhuis vs. Bertrand "Elky" Grospellier kickboxing match in Marbella, Spain. Video and excellent camera skills courtesy of Louk Peperkamp.

^nice video, way better quality than the other one, also made the kick look more impressive :o

no way round 1 was even. Elky might have been ahead in boxing his clintch was good but lex was scoring with his kicks didn't see elky throw one. Nasty ko the dutch can kick

On November 23 2011 00:31 Highcard wrote: Naz knows his fighting, I would never bet against him

+1 =(

but I love ELKY!!!!!

After watching the fight, Elky did very well, relative to the fact that Raszi definitely has natural talent and does understand how to fight. You can see it in the rhythm and movement.

The fact that Elky takes a massive kick right at the jaw and gets up is extremely impressive on his part, I think that would have been a knock out for most of anyone else. While I think both fighters we getting tired, Raszi kept his form and Elky had expended more energy to keep up.

All in all, a great effort on Elky's part, but Raszi's skill was evident. Good job to both, it was an exciting fight. =)

Argh! poor elky.

I had a drunken conversation with smuft once telling him that i was sure raszi was the favorite and he bet his life on elky. he was so confident that it made me not want to bet. T_T sick life im such a nit. good showing by both though. details on how elky is doing?

On November 23 2011 01:27 NeillyJQ wrote: raszi was winning 100%. after you meet them both irl, raszi is taller, stronger and has a tenacity to him. elky isn't the fighting type imo

What would you have posted if elky won? LOL

i have absolutely no idea why people find any kind of interest in this

On November 23 2011 02:19 DooMeR wrote: I had a drunken conversation with smuft once telling him that i was sure raszi was the favorite and he bet his life on elky. he was so confident that it made me not want to bet. T_T sick life im such a nit. good showing by both though. details on how elky is doing?

yeah you are a nit that's for sure

Here's my take on the fight: I thought it would have gotten real ugly for Raszi in the early-middle of the fight when elky started slinging a lot if most of those strikes landed cleanly. I think he just threw a lot of awkward strikes and gassed too quickly in the process of trying to end the fight asap. Raszi's kickboxing was very sick though and when he landed that first head-kick you notice that elky went into guard then took off his guard as the kick was in motion, really unlucky lol. I thought the 14 min video that webjoker posted was very good quality for something that most would expect to have a poor video of. Good shit on the camera crew and what not. I'm too much of a pussy to ever get into MMA sparring or fighting, because I'd be so afraid of obtaining a serious injury.

On November 23 2011 02:19 DooMeR wrote: I had a drunken conversation with smuft once telling him that i was sure raszi was the favorite and he bet his life on elky. he was so confident that it made me not want to bet. T_T sick life im such a nit. good showing by both though. details on how elky is doing?

Was a pretty easy bet imo.

PR's don't show any fear, stick to your guns next time!

On November 23 2011 02:36 RaiNKhAN wrote: Here's my take on the fight: I thought it would have gotten real ugly for Raszi in the early-middle of the fight when elky started slinging a lot if most of those strikes landed cleanly. I think he just threw a lot of awkward strikes and gassed too quickly in the process of trying to end the fight asap. Raszi's kickboxing was very sick though and when he landed that first head-kick you notice that elky went into guard then took off his guard as the kick was in motion, really unlucky lol. I thought the 14 min video that webjoker posted was very good quality for something that most would expect to have a poor video of. Good shit on the camera crew and what not. I'm too much of a pussy to ever get into MMA sparring or fighting, because I'd be so afraid of obtaining a serious injury.

Me vs. you in a thumb wrestling match in Summer 2012.

Start training now, we'll figure out the bets later on.
I'll leave stream and have Tastosis cast it.

one sided fight, elky had a poor fighting posture, akward footing, and poor striking(swining to slowly with to much motion) and his biggest weakness was his blocking, every strike elky landed it was on the body because raszi had his hands protecting his face effeciently.

On November 23 2011 02:19 DooMeR wrote: I had a drunken conversation with smuft once telling him that i was sure raszi was the favorite and he bet his life on elky. he was so confident that it made me not want to bet. T_T sick life im such a nit. good showing by both though. details on how elky is doing?

LOL yeah he was telling me to bet all the money I had on Elky. Watching the fight now though. Haha, this looked like it must have been a blast.

After watching the vid, looks like Raszi had the edge from the start. Mad props to Elky for taking those wicked kicks like a man.

wow, they really fighting there. i always thought it was some kind of promo thingy (head protections, soft gloves etc). are they buddies irl or is some tension between them? and why they fighting in the first place?

This is why I try to avoid fights. Fighting is not for everyone, training only helps very little if you don't have the proper mindset for it. Fighting is different, what you know and train for vs what you can actually do is not automatic. As you would notice, after being hit and nerdrage sets in, Elky goes batshit nuts with the girly punches (not even looking at what he's trying to hit), while Raszi sticks to his gameplan keeping the distance with jabs and kicks and just pick his spots before slowly setting up his stronger strikes. Im pretty sure Elky had a good training camp and he probably did well there, but it's so tough to think and execute while trying to avoid getting your ass kicked

Can someone provide some backstory here? How did this bet come into fruition?

Sweet fight, seemed like RaSZi had the upper hand even in the first round.

This was just crazy sick. I still can't believe this was so well executed. It wasn't some halfass fight it was a real bout. Very impressed and congrats to raszi.

it was a very entertaining fight to watch for me. gj to both fighters
imo raszi was the way better fighter in both rounds - he had the upper hand in pure technical skills and execution and as whamm said the stronger mindset for this. mad respect for elky too, he stood up AMAZINGLY fast after that first kick imo

Congrats RaSZi.

Looked a bit more natural in there.

On November 23 2011 02:31 chipsOwner wrote: i have absolutely no idea why people find any kind of interest in this

That might have something to do with you being a noob, but over here at lp we don't judge, we just percieve.

<3

The most awesome thing for me about this was, 2 friends, made a bet, a big one, something that wouldn't happen in awhile, both practiced for it, then went through with it and then some.

That's awesome =]

Awesome fight. Thanks a lot for sharing it, i can definitely see how you would want to make this private.
Elky fought with a lot of heart and he did land quite a few punches, he looked really fit aswell. Raszis kicks to the legs really hurt Elky imo. It makes you lose your feet and this translates into your punches and defence aswell. Super amazed at how much beating you both took. Can you give us more inside info like which punch or kick really hurt and what went through your mind during the fight ? Elky you deserve respect. Keep your head up high. No glass jaw, real Frazier material.
The rage into respect transformation was really obvious from the video aswell. You kicked him in the face real hard, contrary to common belief i think its not easy to go in and finish him when you have a big advantage like that.
What next ? A 3h 30 min tennis match on clay ?

too bad lex didn't take more hits, but im super happy he won!

That looked real fun haha.

It does seem like Elky was just whaling away at times (with those bodyshots) and Lex was definitely the more technical fighter.

On November 23 2011 03:37 whamm! wrote: As you would notice, after being hit and nerdrage sets in, Elky goes batshit nuts with the girly punches (not even looking at what he's trying to hit)

LOL

props to both, although if I were Elky I fire his coach, I doubt the bitch slaps are a correct kickboxing technique. It was pretty hilarious when he came out in all the fancy gear 3 people around him and then started bitchslapping raszi

haha yea raszi fights pretty well for a complete amateur, really. im very impressed. elky looks more like what a normal person usually looks like when they fight.

it was a lot of fun haha and im impressed with both high kicks by raszi, i couldn't land those kicks lol!
elky's corner reaction when he got caught by the 1st kick was funny, hands to the head.

On November 23 2011 02:36 RaiNKhAN wrote: Here's my take on the fight: I thought it would have gotten real ugly for Raszi in the early-middle of the fight when elky started slinging a lot if most of those strikes landed cleanly. I think he just threw a lot of awkward strikes and gassed too quickly in the process of trying to end the fight asap. Raszi's kickboxing was very sick though and when he landed that first head-kick you notice that elky went into guard then took off his guard as the kick was in motion, really unlucky lol. I thought the 14 min video that webjoker posted was very good quality for something that most would expect to have a poor video of. Good shit on the camera crew and what not. I'm too much of a pussy to ever get into MMA sparring or fighting, because I'd be so afraid of obtaining a serious injury.

i disagree. you would be sick at mma.

the first kick was incredibly deadly and well executed, looked like it did some damage.

a well deserved applause for both fighters, its not easy to just step into the ring like this and perform so i kind of reget being a bit critical in my previous post

congratulations on the victory

Seems like Elky just threw out proper Muay Thai techniques out the window after he got hit couple times (wide right hooks and such). I guess that saying is true. Everyone has a game plan until they get hit in the face.

Yea imagine being up against someone who is so comfortable inside the ring like Anderson Silva where he can execute/time his plans to perfection. So sick how the elite strikers can do it and make it look so easy coz its really not.
I hope Idra and Huk do something similar at TL lol

After watching a lot of amateur kickbox fights at my Gym and watching a lot of people
sparring for bouts you could definitely see from the technique what was about to happen :/
I wanted ElkY to win but come on :/, those "what-are-those" strikes, his frivolous posture,
not keeping his hands up, holding Lex at every opportunity (you're not allowed to hold someone's leg in kickboxing.... ... ... not 5 times either)
not throwing a single legkick nor knee in a kickboxing match, BACKING, a TON.
You can't win when you're backing that much.




Maaad props to both of you/them for going through with this though.

That was fun to watch, would have paid to see it. Good job both and nice effort by elky to push through the kicks by Raszi. nice win Raszi

congrats Raszi , wp and clearly the winner here.
Power of will was what it took to win this imo

Next up.

Patrick Antonius vs Raszi.

WTF at Elky not throwing a single kick or knee the entire fight.

I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here.

That's first knock down was vicious thou. I'm shocked ElkY even got up from that.

lolol elky kept ducking towards his kick. o man that was brutal.

Oh wow good match for amateurs, i expected to see a much better perfomance by Elky tho... Congratz Raszi!!
I hope some of u poker players around are encouraged by this fight and theres going to be more fights like this one. It was so enjoyable to watch for some reason.

and also elky was clearly the worse fighter of the 2. lex def had the technique advantage by a ton....

On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here.

Elky's determination in all things is admirable... but that isn't enough in fighting. ;o

On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here.

dbl post

On November 23 2011 12:35 TilICollapse wrote: WTF at Elky not throwing a single kick or knee the entire fight.

+1, elky was just boxing, he never adjusted and kinda weird that nobody on his corner told him to start throwing in some kicks

also Raszi seemed to be the one with more preparation for this fight, you could see Elky without breath since before the end of the first round

Good job guys, that was a very entertaining fight! I like that it ended with a knockout. Raszi was very dominant. I thought it would have been closer. Everyone was talking about Elky in Thailand training camps and such. Great job Raszi!

Man that was so crazy to see. Major props to both of them. Both of these guys are warriors at everything they do, and it is the reason they are where they are. Elky looked a lot better than I thought he would after reading all these replies.

On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here.

really? just by looking at their faces i already could tell raszi would win and elky would throw girly punches.

i am serious.

proly b/c elkys french lol

On November 23 2011 16:07 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here. really? just by looking at their faces i already could tell raszi would win and elky would throw girly punches. i am serious.

Dude stepped in the ring, show some respect son.

Yes, Raszi was the better fighter, and he won . Elky showed a good heart and deserves all the respect, the people straight out thrashing him should just stfu.

Wow. So cool to see this finally happen and done in a professional way. My respect goes to the both of you

On November 23 2011 15:55 Nazgul wrote: Man that was so crazy to see. Major props to both of them. Both of these guys are warriors at everything they do, and it is the reason they are where they are. Elky looked a lot better than I thought he would after reading all these replies.

That was actually a great fight. Reminded me of Diaz v Penn imo

I woulda put a lot of money against RaSZi being able to get his leg up that high for those high kicks.

Idra vs Huk next pls

Awesome fight! Congrats Raszi

I'll fight cosmo

http://www.lamaisondubluff.fr/videos/combat-elky-vs-veldhuis-exclusif_556

cross-posted from Teamliquid (sorry but made me lol)

On November 24 2011 07:37 s.a.y wrote: Elky forgot to upgrade range and attack. I love the event, like a rich man fight club.

i d fight idawg

I've always wondered how and if I would do well in an organized fight.

Well done guys!

On November 24 2011 00:44 RaiNKhAN wrote: I'll fight cosmo

rofl

pretty cool event, GJ guys! hope elky is ok !

i love these type of fights. while watching them i always picture myself in there. strangely enough, despite having more training elky fought more exploitively and lex fought much more by the book with tight defense in close and loosened up on the outside. perhaps it was because elky learned more boxing and MT while lex learned dutch kickboxing.

elky was bum rushing in, dropping his hands just unloading at times with more regard for offense and less regard for defense than is optimal. but if i was in there i would just get completely overwhelmed by that style by trying to fight optimally cause im terrible at it. it really can be compared to something like .5/1 NL back in 2007. if i was a horrible nit id get torn apart by a decent player who played like a reckless maniac.

very cool fight. both of you definitely picked up some good skills in your training. elky had nasty clinch work to the body and lex had really nice leg kicks, even a nice front kick, better ranged boxing and the headkicks were perfectly timed.

lex, how were you feeling physically before the first knockdown? the flurry you had in the first round definitely had elky hurt so that might have given you an extended high to not feel hurt, but you got hit with a lot of body shots and you were probably getting a little gassed by that point. how do you think you would have felt if the fight continued the way it had with no knockdowns into the 4th round?

pretty impressed by lex his kicking

and he defends well too

I want in on this. Wobbly let's make a bet? Pretty sure we are similar height/weight (being Asian and all...)

make sure to rsvp the 11 ppl that will come to watch

Lex fought as i imagined he would, good technique and quite composed, Elky was worse than i thought tbh, his punches are just terribly awkward, clumsy haymakers without much weight into them landing always on Lex's guard, but it was awesome that this fight actually happened, thought it never would.

So two out of shape dudes wearing way less clothing than they should and shuffling around the ring...

On November 24 2011 15:16 phexac wrote: So two out of shape dudes wearing way less clothing than they should and shuffling around the ring...

uhm gtfo

so... anymore fights like these in the online poker community?

On November 24 2011 03:17 whamm! wrote: cross-posted from Teamliquid (sorry but made me lol) Show nested quote + On November 24 2011 07:37 s.a.y wrote: Elky forgot to upgrade range and attack. I love the event, like a rich man fight club.

LOL

On November 24 2011 15:16 phexac wrote: So two out of shape dudes wearing way less clothing than they should and shuffling around the ring...

afaik elky i quite in shape

On November 23 2011 17:57 Stim_Abuser wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 16:07 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote:   On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here. really? just by looking at their faces i already could tell raszi would win and elky would throw girly punches. i am serious. Dude stepped in the ring, show some respect son.

no disrespect. just made an opinion. props to elky and raszi.

and i ain't your son, kid.

thx for the video, raszi

it would be cool if elky shared something like that too

I would smash baal with one hand tied

On November 25 2011 19:36 tutz wrote: I would smash baal with one hand tied

this will be an awesome derail

On November 25 2011 19:36 tutz wrote: I would smash baal with one hand tied

i would slap you with my flaccid penis

On November 25 2011 20:09 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2011 19:36 tutz wrote: I would smash baal with one hand tied this will be an awesome derail

If he is willing to travel to Mexico id take that bet in a near future if its economically worth it

^ I have a good camera to film it.

I'm sure this will be where Tutz can use his "I'm moving to New York with my gf" as an excuse to back out.

On November 24 2011 19:22 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 17:57 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On November 23 2011 16:07 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote:   On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here. really? just by looking at their faces i already could tell raszi would win and elky would throw girly punches. i am serious. Dude stepped in the ring, show some respect son. no disrespect. just made an opinion. props to elky and raszi. and i ain't your son, kid.

simmer down boy

Nice fight, Congrats Raszi

On November 25 2011 23:00 traxamillion wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2011 19:22 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote:   On November 23 2011 17:57 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On November 23 2011 16:07 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote:   On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here. really? just by looking at their faces i already could tell raszi would win and elky would throw girly punches. i am serious. Dude stepped in the ring, show some respect son. no disrespect. just made an opinion. props to elky and raszi. and i ain't your son, kid. simmer down boy

He wasn't talking to you, youngster

On November 25 2011 23:12 SleepyHead wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2011 23:00 traxamillion wrote:   On November 24 2011 19:22 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote:   On November 23 2011 17:57 Stim_Abuser wrote:   On November 23 2011 16:07 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote:   On November 23 2011 12:39 JonnyCosMo wrote: I mean... that's such a sick suck out. How in the world can you bet against ElkY here. really? just by looking at their faces i already could tell raszi would win and elky would throw girly punches. i am serious. Dude stepped in the ring, show some respect son. no disrespect. just made an opinion. props to elky and raszi. and i ain't your son, kid. simmer down boy He wasn't talking to you, youngster

I'd watch my mouth if I were you, junior

I wanna see the guy that raszi did training with fight someone. guy looked like a bull

On November 26 2011 02:11 RaiNKhAN wrote: I wanna see the guy that raszi did training with fight someone. guy looked like a bull

Search YouTube for Hans Nijman.



http://www.youtube.com/results?search...uery=hans+nijman&spell=1&sa=X

^ What type of fighting is that? (Edit, after looking at one of the tags and another video in that guys collection it seems that it's MMA in Japan, but you cant do a lot of stuff on the ground like you could in the UFC during 1996.)

I see some wrestling, judo, kicks while wearing shoes, and open hand hard slaps to the head.

There doesn't seem to be any submissions even though the guy in blue mounts Hands twice within the first 3 minutes, and Hans is able to grab the rope if he's in a bad spot like in pro wrestling/WWE.

seriously what a good video, watched it with a load of mates who have no clue about poker and no idea who either elky or raszi are and they all got well into it too! good standard but enough "amatuer adrenaline" style fighting to make it really interesting to watch!

and congrats raszi clearly deserved that win, though the guys slating elky id love to see you in the ring!

On November 26 2011 02:30 PuertoRican wrote: ^ What type of fighting is that? (Edit, after looking at one of the tags and another video in that guys collection it seems that it's MMA in Japan, but you cant do a lot of stuff on the ground like you could in the UFC during 1996.) I see some wrestling, judo, kicks while wearing shoes, and open hand hard slaps to the head. There doesn't seem to be any submissions even though the guy in blue mounts Hands twice within the first 3 minutes, and Hans is able to grab the rope if he's in a bad spot like in pro wrestling/WWE.

didnt watch but that sounds like either pancrase or rings. neither allowed strikes to the head, so it basically turned into a grappling match with shots to the body

On November 26 2011 02:23 Webjoker wrote: Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 02:11 RaiNKhAN wrote: I wanna see the guy that raszi did training with fight someone. guy looked like a bull Search YouTube for Hans Nijman. http://www.youtube.com/results?search...uery=hans+nijman&spell=1&sa=X

ty

I would certainly take any bet against you baal, but I'm not willing to travel to Mexico for it
Maybe in the 2012 WSOP LP Meeting if you go there we can arrange something, cause I'm probably going to be there :D

let the derail begin

when I say any bet I say any bet I can aford of course

On November 26 2011 18:57 tutz wrote: I would certainly take any bet against you baal, but I'm not willing to travel to Mexico for it Maybe in the 2012 WSOP LP Meeting if you go there we can arrange something, cause I'm probably going to be there :D let the derail begin

with one hand tied, you remember?

how about complete winner gets a weekend at some vegas spa resort for some complete treatment package

im taking baal in that one.

tutz brags about his accomplishments so much, if he was something like a purple belt he would never keep that a secret. we would all know already. baal is tougher than he looks and less tough than he thinks but hes still tough enough to beat up a gymrat pretty boy. [no offense tutz ]

Put your money where you mouth is Rainkhan, let's set something up!

lol


also tutz vs baal. i would prob pick tutz coz of the size and fitness but baal prob will post his point of view and i'll agree with him again and pick him.

On November 26 2011 20:21 SpasticInk wrote: Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 18:57 tutz wrote: I would certainly take any bet against you baal, but I'm not willing to travel to Mexico for it Maybe in the 2012 WSOP LP Meeting if you go there we can arrange something, cause I'm probably going to be there :D let the derail begin with one hand tied, you remember?

As long as baal fights with a flaccid penis.

I didnt post that wtf

I wouldn't fight you anyways cosmo, because if I ever somehow lost it would be the end of me since I have a size/weight advantage

On November 26 2011 23:21 Daut wrote: im taking baal in that one. tutz brags about his accomplishments so much, if he was something like a purple belt he would never keep that a secret. we would all know already. baal is tougher than he looks and less tough than he thinks but hes still tough enough to beat up a gymrat pretty boy. [no offense tutz ]

nah man. i think tutz will beat baal. i agree baal is tougher than tutz. but tutz is fit and looks like he can beat almost anyone here on LP if he undergoes some training.

... and he's brazilian.

On November 27 2011 02:20 BILAT_POWER!!! wrote: Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 23:21 Daut wrote: im taking baal in that one. tutz brags about his accomplishments so much, if he was something like a purple belt he would never keep that a secret. we would all know already. baal is tougher than he looks and less tough than he thinks but hes still tough enough to beat up a gymrat pretty boy. [no offense tutz ] nah man. i think tutz will beat baal. i agree baal is tougher than tutz. but tutz is fit and looks like he can beat almost anyone here on LP if he undergoes some training.

i realize he's fit but doesn't he weigh like 70 pounds....?

i wonder how much tutz deadlifts

I'm brown belt in judo (1 before black...), unfortunately judo doesnt help that much in a fight where you can throw punches and kicks unless wresling is allowed (afaik elky vs raszi fight didnt allow wresling, I didnt watch the video yet).

my weight is 180! the idea of the winner getting a full package or something like that in a spa in las vegas is great! I would go for it

edit: also it has been like 2 years since I stopped judo

On November 27 2011 06:28 tutz wrote: I'm brown belt in judo (1 before black...), unfortunately judo doesnt help that much in a fight where you can throw punches and kicks unless wresling is allowed (afaik elky vs raszi fight didnt allow wresling, I didnt watch the video yet). my weight is 180! the idea of the winner getting a full package or something like that in a spa in las vegas is great! I would go for it

man-scaping, waxing, perms, foot scrubs, nail and hair treatments. lol yea baal would definitely go for this im sure

judo may not help directly but being brown belt in judo is definitely a huge advantage over someone with no martial arts/fighting background at all. balance, co-ordination, toughness, strength etc

that said i have no idea if baal has any background (do you?) so hard to pick...

prolly pick tutz atm just cos in such good shape!

nice writeup

mad props

what was the original bet values i dont remember

would be nice to see elky comenting on the event as well

any Elky aftermath anywhere?

The bet im talking about is if you dont use an arm as you said , id just have to get some cardio back to whoop your ass.

If it were a regular fight i wouldnt do it unless it involved at least a 50k profit if i were to win, im very out of shape now and ive never fully recovered from a hell fracture i had nearly 2 years ago, but if that were the case id take 6 months to prepare, i dont have much of a background, a useless blackbelt in taekwondo as a kid, 1 year of MMA about 4 years ago and i used to hit my punching bag every day for 1h for 8 months about 2 years ago.

Anyway its unlikely the fight happens, id rather do this challenge against nanonoko, now that would be awesome

lol how did u get that pic haha.

lol of course I'm not gonna put money in a fight where I have one hand tied, that would be stupid very stupid

In short, Elky showed up in a bathrobe and Lex got too much action at 1-1. All those talks of injuries, dgaffing, and Elky training in Thailand for a month were a sick level.

On November 27 2011 06:49 whamm! wrote: Show nested quote + On November 27 2011 06:28 tutz wrote: I'm brown belt in judo (1 before black...), unfortunately judo doesnt help that much in a fight where you can throw punches and kicks unless wresling is allowed (afaik elky vs raszi fight didnt allow wresling, I didnt watch the video yet). my weight is 180! the idea of the winner getting a full package or something like that in a spa in las vegas is great! I would go for it man-scaping, waxing, perms, foot scrubs, nail and hair treatments. lol yea baal would definitely go for this im sure

rofl missed that one haha a trip to the spa? forget the 50k a trip to the spa sounds better lol

great writeup raszi, thanks

especially liked this part

Fighting in a ring is an incredible experience. It takes a lot more than I would have thought at the start of all this. The tension and the adrenaline is like nothing I have ever felt before. You're whole body is working in overdrive and you go into survival mode. You hardly feel any pain and you can barely think. It takes a couple of fights for people to be able to think more clearly. People who tihnk everything should be clean and that training level should be equal to fighting level just have no clue what they are talking about. I don't mean to sound snobby, but if you have never done a fight, you just don't know. Everything takes over. You see in the warmup video I punch so much better technically, but in practice you're not fighting to survive.

ok who would win, 11 clones of me or JDS

^at the same time my money is on bulldozer given its in a closed space
in free space my money is on JDS

one at a time anywhere my money is on JDS

How much did Lex win from this?

By the way, seems like Raszi applied his training into the fight as much as he could. He seemed a lot more composed than Elky, who just seemed to go into French Mode and throw as many punches as he could in 14 minutes like he needed to break the world record or something.

Catscan edited it for you personally?





edit: oh, and nice fight.