Starcraft II Beta - Page 26

On February 27 2010 23:44 Maynard! wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2010 21:41 Fayth wrote: im playing too much SC2, and no poker at all lawl And shit talking people on teamliquid.net

If you're talking bout Idra... Sure I wouldn't call a retarded kid a retard but its Idra.

i saw artosis say fayth was a noob and completely sucks without any explanation in one of his interviews
wtf is fayth saying to these ppl
high stakes grinder by day, starcraft TL troll by night LOL

i wouldnt pay artosis any mind. He's the original idra and the only reason he stopped running his mouth is cos he lost his ambitions.

zzzzzzzzzzz i played a ton of bw with the media team and im still ok with assem and skew.

Idra and artosis just copied assem to the point it was funny and skew was imo better then all of them 3 combined.

skew sucks at sc2

On February 28 2010 09:14 Defrag wrote: Fuck this imbalanced shit, random protoss tards with zero micro doing a 9-10 minute push with 1-2 immortals, sentry, 1-2 stalker and zaelot is unbeatable as zerg.

Ive never liked opening immortal vs Z but Ive tried it yesterday because I heard smuft say it was broken or some shit and got totally raped by 1 base Z that didnt go roach and instead mass hydra/ling. Granted I shouldnt have tried to move up the ramp and just stayed at the nat and expanded myself but I wanted to see what would happen, and what happend was I got crushed.

I really think if you just stop going roaches you will do much better as Z, literally almost every game the Z opened roaches I was really happy and won. If they open hydra/ling and switch to muta not so happy :/

On February 28 2010 12:01 CrownRoyal wrote: skew sucks at sc2

maybe, for now.

i'm noticing a lot of trends day by day. most people seem to be using one build for all match ups, very static and trying to counter what they expect the other guy to be doing. this game is mostly hard counters. for example, i noticed that most good zergs now decide to open pool into fast expo after killing your probe and they hide a mass ling because they expect you to be bulding a counter to roaches since most zergs were doing 1 base roach for quite a while. if you try to immortal rush they will completely crush you. i'm not going fast robo anymore unless ive scouted the fast roach warren.

that's my feelings on the game too, if i take a day off i have to lose a few games to get back on top of the metagame

On February 28 2010 10:38 whamm! wrote: i saw artosis say fayth was a noob and completely sucks without any explanation in one of his interviews wtf is fayth saying to these ppl high stakes grinder by day, starcraft TL troll by night LOL

what interview? I haven't played him in the last 5 yrs on broodwar, and back when we played I'd always win vs him

we also haven't played a single game against each other on SC2 lolol

I'd like to face a good protoss doing that when I'm zerg. I have a fairly decent timed hydra rush down that seems kinda awesome.

On February 27 2010 11:16 Maynard! wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2010 10:02 transparentb wrote: the game is fun i guess for a while but it has no chance as a real esport. using 1 hotkey in max 15 minute games while one big blob attacks into another big blob is the worst thing ive ever wasted my time playing. and talk about hard counters? holy shit it's like an expansion to dawn of war. chess players wont enjoy checker tournaments. fingers are crossed they change a tonnnnnn of the mechanics and i dunno, make a new fucking game or something. (i was #1 in a platinum division for a few days as random) The hard counters are complete bullshit. They are taking a page out of the age of empires handbook (isn't ensemble defunct now?). Starcraft had soft counters. Lurkers countered marines/medics but it depended on player skill in positioning and use (For example 4 lurkers vs 12 medics 4 marines). It was exciting to watch because you didn't know how or who would win each battle. Now its "oh he has X and that beats Y." BORING. I think its a result of the designers really wanting to make a next gen competitive game but really failing to understand why players enjoyed starcraft. This game will still be very popular because it is very well polished and programmed... something very few games are nowadays.

yea pretty much. i agree it'll be very popular but it won't last as an esport if they don't do something drastic. it's extremely easy to have perfect macro (although 99% of players don't atm but obviously in competitive play everyone will) so everything will come down to just micro and build orders.

funny to remember age 3 but i actually think that game took more ability than sc2 in it's current form. from listening to the podcasts though they seem to be trying to figure out how to make it more appealing to competitive play... id like to think if any company can pull this one off it's blizz.

On February 28 2010 16:34 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2010 10:38 whamm! wrote: i saw artosis say fayth was a noob and completely sucks without any explanation in one of his interviews wtf is fayth saying to these ppl high stakes grinder by day, starcraft TL troll by night LOL what interview? I haven't played him in the last 5 yrs on broodwar, and back when we played I'd always win vs him we also haven't played a single game against each other on SC2 lolol

i think it was one of his weekly starcraft update vids, he was talking about older canadian gamers that were good, and then said you were terrible or something lol

On February 28 2010 13:56 Loco wrote: i'm noticing a lot of trends day by day. most people seem to be using one build for all match ups, very static and trying to counter what they expect the other guy to be doing. this game is mostly hard counters. for example, i noticed that most good zergs now decide to open pool into fast expo after killing your probe and they hide a mass ling because they expect you to be bulding a counter to roaches since most zergs were doing 1 base roach for quite a while. if you try to immortal rush they will completely crush you. i'm not going fast robo anymore unless ive scouted the fast roach warren.

cant 3 zeal+sentry stop it on most ramps?

On February 28 2010 16:43 MezmerizePLZ wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2010 16:34 Fayth wrote:   On February 28 2010 10:38 whamm! wrote: i saw artosis say fayth was a noob and completely sucks without any explanation in one of his interviews wtf is fayth saying to these ppl high stakes grinder by day, starcraft TL troll by night LOL what interview? I haven't played him in the last 5 yrs on broodwar, and back when we played I'd always win vs him we also haven't played a single game against each other on SC2 lolol i think it was one of his weekly starcraft update vids, he was talking about older canadian gamers that were good, and then said you were terrible or something lol

hahahaha, awesome, he must have been mad cuz he always lost to me even though he knew I was opening DT drop hahaha

On February 28 2010 16:34 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2010 10:38 whamm! wrote: i saw artosis say fayth was a noob and completely sucks without any explanation in one of his interviews wtf is fayth saying to these ppl high stakes grinder by day, starcraft TL troll by night LOL what interview? I haven't played him in the last 5 yrs on broodwar, and back when we played I'd always win vs him we also haven't played a single game against each other on SC2 lolol

hmm i just ran into it while browsing tl.net
its a live video , not an interview though, just artosis talking about starcraft and pre-tsl

On February 28 2010 16:49 Daut wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2010 13:56 Loco wrote: i'm noticing a lot of trends day by day. most people seem to be using one build for all match ups, very static and trying to counter what they expect the other guy to be doing. this game is mostly hard counters. for example, i noticed that most good zergs now decide to open pool into fast expo after killing your probe and they hide a mass ling because they expect you to be bulding a counter to roaches since most zergs were doing 1 base roach for quite a while. if you try to immortal rush they will completely crush you. i'm not going fast robo anymore unless ive scouted the fast roach warren. cant 3 zeal+sentry stop it on most ramps?

not sure what you mean by that. the standard opening of the robo im speaking of is that and it will stop it until you get your immortal out. it can only hold it as long as you have the force field though, unless you mean building many sentries behind the lots? i don't know about that

LOL Fayth Build ordersLOL
aka DT drop every game hahaha

omfg those were the days

loco we post at the same time. high five!