NL5000 on stars.

Well now that there is, What do you think?

I've been watching it for a couple hours and I see ALOT much more action than what used to be on NL2000 tables.

I also see much more players that don't seat with the max buy-in, much more limps and more showdowns. Also more people I've never saw on high stakes at PS.

What do you think? Is it atracting some fishes? Let some of the high rollers tell us, like pooruser.

I also see players like h@ll changed his pf action, I've seen him in way more pots now than before. This is cool and interesting to watch.

TheBusDriver was there earlier, he was a good BW player a while ago if I remember correctly

because its a higher buyin than the players are used to, pressure becomes a little more of a factor

On July 04 2006 18:41 JonnyCosMo wrote: TheBusDriver was there earlier, he was a good BW player a while ago if I remember correctly

yeah, busdriver used to play BW, i think he also used to be a regular at the ps 2k games

was weird seeing him in my sh 200 games on ps, but i guess he took a break and didn't want to jump into the bigger games right away

Empire2000 took a lot from PoorUser

he does that

how much did u loose total pooruser?

thats not really a question you should go around asking people
they probably arent going to want to answer it

lol

seriously, wtf baal?

nothing wrong with that question imo

I dont like it --

Baal, shame on you

On July 04 2006 22:19 DooMeR wrote: nothing wrong with that question imo

some people have class and some dont
dependant on what side of the question you take --

--- Nuked ---

when in the hell did i rub something in wtf bunch of pansies.

Since when is loosing money a taboo or something "omg i never ever loose, i win all the time only bad poker players have loosing sessions" WTF!?!

We all have winning and loosing sessions whats wrong if i asked how much he lost since i obsed the table for a while and i simply wanted to know how he ended.

If you dont want to answer thats fine, if someone would ask me how much i lost i would say it, hell i would probably bitch about it before they ask , what i find disturbing all the sissy bandwagon who think its inappropiate.

agreed with baal

especially for someone like PU who posts his hands here publically showing his 10k pots

c'mon now losers

--- Nuked ---

to me it would be like asking somebody who just got divorced how he feels without his wife -_- its a valid question but seriously

go die dan

On July 04 2006 23:00 PoorUser wrote: to me it would be like asking somebody who just got divorced how he feels without his wife -_- its a valid question but seriously go die dan

no its not, that would be if you went broke and i asked how does it feel?

we win and loose every day this is a very common and casual question.

omfg

ban dan

On July 04 2006 23:05 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2006 23:00 PoorUser wrote: to me it would be like asking somebody who just got divorced how he feels without his wife -_- its a valid question but seriously go die dan no its not, that would be if you went broke and i asked how does it feel? we win and loose every day this is a very common and casual question.

try not telling me how im currently feeling
and whatever, forget about it im past it

I'm sure PU doesn't care all that much about his losing sessions

I don't really care about my losing sessions besides any mistakes I made (although I am just a lowly piece of shit 200 NL player so I doubt anyone would ask me on an internet forum)

I just think it's one of those things that you could talk to him on MSN about if he cared to tell you, but really it's one of those things that no one should really give a shit about and for some people it could definately rub them the wrong way which i usually attempt not to do if i don't know for sure

well if dan were asking this i would understand, but why i the hell would i make that question with bad intentions -.-

On July 04 2006 22:30 PoorUser wrote: Show nested quote + On July 04 2006 22:19 DooMeR wrote: nothing wrong with that question imo some people have class and some dont dependant on what side of the question you take --

just cause its a personal question doesn't mean tis not classy, we are always discussing such things on this site.
if you feel you dont want to answer then just dont, but it doesn't mean the question itself was out of place.

ty doomer

holy jesus look at h@ll's stack! almost 40k

rekrul complimented me... it must be sarcastic or something =(

he didnt he just said "ty"


:D

oh.. i was starting to get worried for a second. NM

Halling lost a $20k pot against Jerrry -- He mustve had a set of 7s or 4s against AAA -_-

i think he had Ac5c....just a thought

could have been 76

and it really culda been since u were @ the table, rite

someone post, i can't find the hand :|

I posted it.

wow that insane lol

Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Hi girls!
Ozzy 87: hey Lee
Ozzy 87: thanks for the 25/50 game
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Somebody turn on the gambling light at PokerStars? :-)

wow 3k avg pot... wtf.

Lee jones

wow if you play in the 25/50 game you get to talk with lee

most good players fucking hate losing

hazards21: i want a free t shirt for that beat
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: One t-shirt coming up.
hazards21: and a stress star for good measure
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: done


he's so giving !!!

Grot wtf ? :D lol

JERRRY: Lee since u added 25 50 NL.....when u adding the 2k SNG?
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Heh.
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Give 'em an inch...


JERRY is owned !!! ultimate outskirts of universe cold decked system activated

I want to talk to Lee Jones....and maybe beg him to stop owning me with bad beats

On July 05 2006 01:37 YoMeR wrote: wow 3k avg pot... wtf.

pretty insane yeah

On July 05 2006 02:06 humanum wrote: Grot wtf ? :D lol

chat came after this hand: http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/45551

i think considering the beat he handled it pretty well =o

PS better luck in the future steve, i know you're a great player and you've helped me more than anyone since i started playing. and your hh's are usually very entertaining =]

Lee should remove buy in limit for 25/50.
H@L vs Elky 200K deep O_O

i see LoveDOM at the $5000NL table:O

ohh snap. . .moneymaker just sat down!!

and he just left

On July 05 2006 11:45 RICHI8 wrote: i see LoveDOM at the $5000NL table:O

i see him getting stacked at 2/4, what the hell is wrong with him?

it will be interesting to see if naz decides he wants a pay rise and will jump in

lol i see lovedom randomly shortstacking at various different limits

i smell lovedome is going preeetty bad...

On July 05 2006 02:09 GroT wrote: JERRY is owned !!! ultimate outskirts of universe cold decked system activated

DAMN what would that be like? AA vs KK you flop an ace and he gets runner runner kings?

or u have quads and he gets runner runner straight flush? eeeeee~

Moneymaker still bluffing all the time it seems

Submitted by : all_in_4tw

PokerStars Game #5463047414: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/05 - 16:13:30 (ET)
Table 'Katharina II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Money800 ($4125 in chips)
Seat 2: slonn ($2972 in chips)
Seat 3: #1PEN ($4650 in chips)
Seat 4: DuyTheMaster ($5075 in chips)
Seat 5: LOvEDoM ($2001.60 in chips)
Seat 7: lifeisjust ($11529 in chips)
Seat 8: ActionJeff ($4338 in chips)
ActionJeff: posts small blind $25
Money800: posts big blind $50

Holecards
slonn: folds
#1PEN: folds
DuyTheMaster: folds
LOvEDoM: folds
lifeisjust: folds
slonn leaves the table
ActionJeff: raises $150 to $200
Money800: calls $150

Flop (Pot : $400)

   
ActionJeff: checks
Money800: bets $300
ActionJeff: calls $300

Turn (Pot : $1000)

   
ActionJeff: bets $650
Money800: calls $650

River (Pot : $2300)

   
ActionJeff: checks
Money800: bets $1200
ActionJeff: calls $1200

Showdown
Money800: shows (a pair of Threes)
ActionJeff: shows (a pair of Tens)
ActionJeff collected $4697 from pot

Summary
Total pot $4700 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: Money800 (big blind) showed and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 2: slonn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: #1PEN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DuyTheMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: LOvEDoM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: lifeisjust (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ActionJeff (small blind) showed and won ($4697) with a pair of Tens

Submitted by : BBM

PokerStars Game #5463086926: Hold'em No Limit ($25/$50) - 2006/07/05 - 16:18:34 (ET)
Table 'Pafuri' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Reesy ($4000 in chips)
Seat 2: lifeisjust ($13335 in chips)
Seat 3: DuyTheMaster ($5772 in chips)
Seat 4: binda ($8286 in chips)
Seat 6: Suck My Ace ($4847 in chips)
Seat 8: Money800 ($5297 in chips)
Seat 9: #1PEN ($6941 in chips)
Suck My Ace: posts small blind $25
Money800: posts big blind $50

Holecards
#1PEN: folds
Reesy: folds
lifeisjust: folds
DuyTheMaster: folds
binda: raises $100 to $150
Suck My Ace: folds
Money800: calls $100

Flop (Pot : $325)

   
Money800: checks
binda: checks

Turn (Pot : $325)

   
Money800: bets $250
binda: calls $250

River (Pot : $825)

   
Money800: bets $950
binda: raises $1950 to $2900
Money800: raises $1997 to $4897 and is all-in
binda: calls $1997

Showdown
Money800: shows (a flush, King high)
binda: shows (a flush, Ace high)
binda collected $10616 from pot
Money800 said, "wow"
Money800 said, "nh"

Summary
Total pot $10619 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: Reesy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: lifeisjust folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: DuyTheMaster folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: binda (button) showed and won ($10616) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 6: Suck My Ace (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Money800 (big blind) showed and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 9: #1PEN folded before Flop (didn't bet)

that was so sick i saw that hand go down and money800 was all like
wow
nh

On July 05 2006 13:24 jon166 wrote: that was so sick i saw that hand go down and money800 was all like wow nh

YEAH

reminds me of when BBM posted that hand on LP and then some guy was like "i saw that hand go down and money800 was all like
wow
nh"

lol

Money = Chris Moneymaker?

If so, how good is he at NL5k? Any good or just one of those 'pretty good' players who luckboxed the huge tourney win in 2003?

luckbox.

On July 05 2006 14:19 bigbb33 wrote: Money = Chris Moneymaker? If so, how good is he at NL5k? Any good or just one of those 'pretty good' players who luckboxed the huge tourney win in 2003?

from what i saw from the short period i watched him, it looks like hes gonna be a nice atm if he becomes a regular

On July 05 2006 14:25 Bigbobm wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2006 14:19 bigbb33 wrote: Money = Chris Moneymaker? If so, how good is he at NL5k? Any good or just one of those 'pretty good' players who luckboxed the huge tourney win in 2003? from what i saw from the short period i watched him, it looks like hes gonna be a nice atm if he becomes a regular

Nice as in 'it'll be nice to watch him rape the table' or nice as in 'it'll be nice to take his money and spend it on sixty portugese hookers'?

Is he +ev or -ev at high NL cash games, i mean...

-

in moneymakers defense hes gotten a lot better than he was when he won the wsop main event

I think he is a great guy. I admire him in more ways than I admire most better players. But he still has work to do if he wants to compete with the guys playing 25/50 or 100/200.

On July 05 2006 14:27 bigbb33 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 05 2006 14:25 Bigbobm wrote:   On July 05 2006 14:19 bigbb33 wrote: Money = Chris Moneymaker? If so, how good is he at NL5k? Any good or just one of those 'pretty good' players who luckboxed the huge tourney win in 2003? from what i saw from the short period i watched him, it looks like hes gonna be a nice atm if he becomes a regular Nice as in 'it'll be nice to watch him rape the table' or nice as in 'it'll be nice to take his money and spend it on sixty portugese hookers'? Is he +ev or -ev at high NL cash games, i mean...

errr.. not ATM as in porn... you perv



atm is where da moneyz come from.


beware of ze donkeyz!

On July 05 2006 16:13 asdf2000 wrote: I think he is a great guy. I admire him in more ways than I admire most better players.

anything in particular?

just curious, i have no opinion on him

hes just a real nice guy is all

ya everyone who sits with money likes him
great personality
not kidding

lol "not kidding"

only casper would have to add that at the end

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/45551 holy crap, lee jones is doing some serious rigging to spice up this game :D

is H@L someone from this site?

yes, he posts as "darkxprt"

oh also, he has multiple personalities, thats why he was able to interview himself

well lee talks alot atm on 5knl

Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: You're in the US, nestegg, so you can use it.
nestegg1: nice
Genius28: one more thing lee, is there any reason why you guys cap the number of 6m tables at 10/20
Dealer: Game #5472371495: westmenloAA wins pot ($297)
Administrator: $16+R satellite to Saturday's WSOP 2:15pm qualifier starts in 9 minutes. To register see T27259511 under the Events/WSOP/Cash Satellite tab.
nestegg1: hadnt asked for months
Dealer: Game #5472377291: lucky karma wins pot ($100)
Dealer: Game #5472380693: westmenloAA wins pot ($125)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: egg - go to:
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/real-money/echecks
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Genius - we want to make sure there are some people to seed the 10-seat games
nestegg1: ty lee thats great
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: There are some number of players who want to play 7-10 handed
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: If we have unlimited 6-max's, I doubt the 10-handed games would be very strong.
Dealer: Game #5472384781: lifeisjust wins pot ($1072)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Obviously, there's some compromise involved, and we try to find the right balance
Genius28: ok that's understandable
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: How do you all like the resizable tables?
nestegg1: def
Dealer: lifeisjust, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
kkellyQQ: yah for sure
Nazgul18: yea the option is good
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I have two monitors, but screen real estate, man that's platinum stuff.
Dealer: Regular time for player lifeisjust has expired, TIME BANK has been activated
Nazgul18: just saying that i suspect you can find some very happy lower limit players that play 8 tables
Dealer: LOvEDoM, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I tell you what - if we spread unlimited quarter-fifty NLH tables, there'd be times when you'd see the same guy in 6-8 of 'em.
Dealer: Game #5472403359: Genius28 wins pot ($3497)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: "quarter-fifty" as in "$25-50"
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Not a thing :-) But nestegg said something about "lower limit players"
Dealer: Game #5472422463: kkellyQQ wins pot ($672)
Nazgul18: i think i did
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Sorry Nazgul - my bad
Dealer: Game #5472430890: LOvEDoM wins pot ($125)
Nazgul18: lee is it possible to put a restriction on the time someone is allowed to sit out, regardless of how many bb's are played?
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Describe to me how that would work?
Nazgul18: sometimes 'certain players' sit out on 6 tables on their own - new players are looking to play heads up and check out a few of the tables, but theyre all sitting out so they leave
Nazgul18: but im sitting in on one table by myself but he doesn tbother to check all 8 tables which say there's 1 player
Dealer: Game #5472434943: LOvEDoM wins pot ($472)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I'm with you.
Nazgul18: did that make any sense?
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Yeah - I'll have to give that some thought.
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Just to make it super clear, would you please drop me an email: pokermanager@pokerstars.com
Genius28: yeah i second that
Genius28: yeah i second that
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: That way I'll have the whole description right there and I can talk to the programming team about it.
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Any of you guys PLO players? Is $25-50 PLO a draw for you?
Dealer: Game #5472461066: nestegg1 wins pot ($125)
Nazgul18: nto me
Nazgul18: not
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: ok thanks
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Oh - another new feature you all may not be aware of.
Nazgul18: PLO is way more volatile anyways you could almost compare the 10/20 PLO to this game in terms of swings
Dealer: Game #5472467795: LOvEDoM wins pot ($347)
lucky karma: hard to spread both, nl will get most of players
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I think PLO is more fun :-)
Dealer: Game #5472475908: nestegg1 wins pot ($172)
Nazgul18:
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: BTW - another new feature you all may not be aware of...
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: You can now disable focus grabbing by our software
Dealer: Game #5472480185: westmenloAA wins pot ($125)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: In the main lobby, Options -> Advanced Multi-Table options.
Genius28: what's that mean
kkellyQQ: yah
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: You're typing in an IM window...
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Suddenly it's your turn to act here.
nestegg1: lee when are we going to sponser me
nestegg1: i mean seriously bud
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Next thing you know, you're typing into the chat window here.
Nazgul18: the tables still up though right? just that your cursor stays in the IM window?
nestegg1: im loud obnoxious and ridiculously good looking
Dealer: Game #5472483572: Nazgul18 wins pot ($125)
nestegg1: im like a tv magnet baby
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Yes - table is still here.
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: loud, obnoxious, and ridiculously good looking?
Nazgul18: thats awesome
kkellyQQ: yah, i hated when that would happen allt the time
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Aren't there enough of those on TV?
Genius28: so should i hit single click table activation
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: No
nestegg1: good point
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: That's different.
nestegg1: but
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: That gives you just what it says.
nestegg1: im the best
Genius28: so i unclick the popup one
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Yes Genius - unclick that
Dealer: Game #5472488940: lucky karma wins pot ($397)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: But test it out and get comfortable with it - the behavior is more different than you might expect
Genius28: ok ty
Nazgul18: hm
Nazgul18: it doesnt pop up anymore
nestegg1: here is the thing lee
nestegg1: raymer and money maker are both fat
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Right - doesn't pop up - just flashes on the task bar.
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Yeah, but Joe's a looker.
nestegg1: which does not present a good image for ps
nestegg1: lolololol
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: And his son - Jesus.
Dealer: Game #5472497299: lifeisjust wins pot ($372)
Nazgul18: nestegg i think i speak for most of us when i say we have your picture blocked
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: That kid is in the top of young men I wouldn't let near any 15-year-old daughter I had.
kkellyQQ: HAHA
nestegg1: alright ill give u joe
Nazgul18: for a good reason
nestegg1: hes a cool guy too...
Genius28: lol
kkellyQQ: lee you are the best poker manager EVER
nestegg1: but to ofset the fatness of the other two u need me
Nazgul18: genius be honest
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Thanks kelly - very kind of you.
Nazgul18: do you have his picture blocked?
Genius28: no - but i preferred the matador one
kkellyQQ: your welcome
kkellyQQ: your welcome
Genius28: more badass
Nazgul18: :D
nestegg1: lololl
nestegg1: eh tu genius
Genius28: so naz, where in vegas are you staying
Genius28: im coming out there this weekend
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I'll be there July 25th.
Nazgul18: unfortunately im not really in vegas
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Any of you going to be there then?
nestegg1: for sure
kkellyQQ: LOL
Nazgul18: was just making sure nestegg wasted his time
kkellyQQ: who wont be there
kkellyQQ: who wont be there
Dealer: Game #5472519167: LOvEDoM wins pot ($122)
nestegg1: naz is like 150 pounds
nestegg1: wears glasses
nestegg1: still a virgin
nestegg1: due to his acne problem
Nazgul18: lol
nestegg1: he aint fighting anyone
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: dude - what's with the harshness?
kkellyQQ: lee
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: yessir?
nestegg1: we have history lee
kkellyQQ: is there anyway i can get cash out of my pstars accoutn
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: so then he's *not* a virgin?
kkellyQQ: when i am in vegas
Dealer: Game #5472525448: Nazgul18 wins pot ($472)
nestegg1: lololololololo
Genius28: LOL@lee
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Unfortunately, kelly, no.
nestegg1: no no that comment still stands
Nazgul18: you want to talk about it lee?
kkellyQQ: *tear*
Nazgul18: i can give you tips
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Because of the minor detail that it would be a felony in the state of NV.
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I'm too old.
Dealer: Game #5472532097: nestegg1 wins pot ($322)
kkellyQQ: just taht minor detail
kkellyQQ: lol
nestegg1: omg nazgul is soliciting lee for sex
nestegg1: wow
nestegg1: a new low for u bud
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I, um, kinda doubt that.
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: He's seen my picture. Joe Hachem I'm not.
Nazgul18: once again you are clueless about what is going on
Nazgul18: haha
nestegg1: oh i just saw the chat
nestegg1: felony in nevada
nestegg1: and too old
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: heh
nestegg1: i just assumed given naz track record
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I hate when conversations like that get mixed up.
Dealer: nestegg1 has a pair of Sixes
Dealer: Genius28 has a pair of Tens
Dealer: Game #5472536918: Genius28 wins pot ($472) with a pair of Tens
nestegg1: yeah def
nestegg1: that could have damaging to the reputation
nestegg1: glad we got that cleared up
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Do you know that we get at least one email a day from people requesting a live audio interface to the PokerStars software?
Dealer: Game #5472547454: nestegg1 wins pot ($50)
kkellyQQ: so you can talk to people at the table?
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: (thinking about conversations that wouldn't go well)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: uh-huh
Genius28: nono it would be great we are all friendly
kkellyQQ: that would be very hard for you guys to manage
Dealer: Game #5472550742: lifeisjust wins pot ($472)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Now, who would like to set a line on when you'd have live sex on the audio?
kkellyQQ: 2hrs
kkellyQQ: nah
kkellyQQ: 30 min
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: gimme $1K on the under
kkellyQQ: haha
nestegg1: im sure naz will play ball =)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: I'll still take that action
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: You guys *do* have a history :S
kkellyQQ: well you set up
kkellyQQ: and ill think about it
nestegg1: nah im just messin with him
kkellyQQ: i am calling you guys out
kkellyQQ: lee
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: kelly - what's the image?
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: you go first.
kkellyQQ: ok cool
kkellyQQ: well, not liek i really want it, but are you guys considerign the side bets
nestegg1: lee i got a question
kkellyQQ: like i think UB does
Dealer: StackChipz71 has a pair of Deuces
Dealer: westmenloAA has two pair, Fives and Deuces
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: wait - let me answer Kelly
Dealer: nestegg1 has two pair, Tens and Deuces
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: you mean like flop color and stuff?
Dealer: Game #5472555576: nestegg1 wins pot ($247) with two pair, Tens and Deuces
kkellyQQ: yah
nestegg1: what do u think this new us legislation will do
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Visualize pigs flying.
kkellyQQ: fair enough
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: That's when it will happen (as long as they listen to me :-)
kkellyQQ: to continue though
kkellyQQ: i was thinking this woudl be pretty cool
nestegg1: and do u guys think it will pass?
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Then again, they don't have to listen to me.
kkellyQQ: ik dont know if you could do this
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: hey nest....
nestegg1: yes
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: obviously, I don't dig the legislation.
kkellyQQ: but i think betting side bets on heads up sitngoes would be cool
Dealer: kkellyQQ, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
nestegg1: and do u guys think it will pass?
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: Then again, they don't have to listen to me.
kkellyQQ: ik dont know if you could do this
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: hey nest....
nestegg1: yes
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: obviously, I don't dig the legislation.
kkellyQQ: but i think betting side bets on heads up sitngoes would be cool
Dealer: kkellyQQ, it's your turn. You have 15 seconds to act
nestegg1: obv
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: But the thing is - it's not so much about online poker to me.
nestegg1: im saying what are your realalistic exptations
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: It's about the gummint deciding which websites I can and can't go to
Dealer: Game #5472571659: westmenloAA wins pot ($147)
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: or asking banks to monitor where my money goes..
Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: that's none of their damn business, thank you.
nestegg1: agreed

this is gonna make the lower limits so much easier

what is? if they allow more 25/50 tables?

25/50 in general

yea thats what i was discussing with Baal on MSN. also too, 12 max tables also makes 25NL a gold mine for people like me =D who are just grinding the shit out of these fishz0rs

Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: If we have unlimited 6-max's, I doubt the 10-handed games would be very strong.

... and? His point? If that's what the people want?...

?

because he is selfish

because 9 max have always been more popular than 6 max so if one should have less tables if its dependant on the other one dying out then there should be limited 6 max

On July 06 2006 14:06 tomson wrote: Lee Jones [PokerRoom Manager]: If we have unlimited 6-max's, I doubt the 10-handed games would be very strong. ... and? His point? If that's what the people want?... ?

the point is that there is people out there who ONLY want to play 7-10 handed. if you allow unlimited 6 max tables it could be that all of the players who like shorthanded (those are needed to fill up the full ring tables before they become full ring) join 6-max and because of that there will never be an option for 7-10 handed players to play. this way they're missing out on activity.

not saying that's how they make the most money, but that's what they have in mind

There'd be less full ring games, perhaps, which could lead to a few players checking other sites out. But if they suspect that most people playing full ring would prefer to play shorthanded they're probably already losing players (myself, for example).

It's just weird that they'd be so counter-intuitive about it.

they should just add like 2 more 6 maxes

and then if it was okay and full ring stayed filled, add another 2 or something

I actually like 9 handed

I think Lee has a crush on Hachem

I freaking hate short handed. HU or full ring only - 6 max just doesn't work for me and its all you find on quite a few smaller sites.

thats a great reason to hate it... it "doesnt work for me"

6 max is infinitely better than full ring. not only is it more profitabl, it makes you a better poker player.

On July 06 2006 19:04 Arya wrote: thats a great reason to hate it... it "doesnt work for me"

seems like a fine reason to me ...

On July 06 2006 12:52 Ibsu Bai Hui wrote: this is gonna make the lower limits so much easier

it will only afect 2k, 1k and probably 600nl.

On July 06 2006 21:03 bigredhoss wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2006 19:04 Arya wrote: thats a great reason to hate it... it "doesnt work for me" seems like a fine reason to me ...

if you suck at something you should work to get better not jsut ignore it

i will move to 6max at some point but im too lazy now, maybe after mtt thing

On July 06 2006 21:13 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2006 12:52 Ibsu Bai Hui wrote: this is gonna make the lower limits so much easier it will only afect 2k, 1k and probably 600nl.

maybe NL400 just maybe.

but it's not gonna affect the fish at NL200 and below.

On July 06 2006 21:22 artpoker_yo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2006 21:03 bigredhoss wrote:   On July 06 2006 19:04 Arya wrote: thats a great reason to hate it... it "doesnt work for me" seems like a fine reason to me ... if you suck at something you should work to get better not jsut ignore it i will move to 6max at some point but im too lazy now, maybe after mtt thing

not really. would you tell someone who makes lots of money playing NLHE cash games but sucks at PLO that they have to work harder to get good at PLO? they would become more well-rounded players sure, but it's not like they have an obligation to do it if they're happy with what they're doing.

fwiw i like 6-max

hey, can we get to see that flop with 3 set's again? Can't find it anymore for some reason, thanks.

you should get good at shorthanded play if you want to make more money in the future at high stakes

bah about the 6max thing, its a totally weak and disappointing reason lee gives and i cry myself to sleep every day because stars is such an awesome site and i dont want to have to go play on pp/ub for my 6max needs but clearly have no choice. like im gonna stay on stars and 'help make the 9max nitfest stronger' l0l good one =[

I prefer full ring by far, and i like his reasoning, but not the implementation of it. there should be a few extra 3/6 tables. cap it at like 6. we can play 12 tables now, people have plenty of options.

On July 06 2006 21:22 artpoker_yo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2006 21:03 bigredhoss wrote:   On July 06 2006 19:04 Arya wrote: thats a great reason to hate it... it "doesnt work for me" seems like a fine reason to me ... if you suck at something you should work to get better not jsut ignore it i will move to 6max at some point but im too lazy now, maybe after mtt thing

Let us see how your theory applies to another subject:

I like american football, I am good at it. I suck at the following sports: baseball, soccer, frizbee golf, curling, underwater hockey, bochee.

By your advice I should be spending my time learning to play all the sports I suck at, and not the sport I am good at and enjoy. And I should continue this, until I am good at EVERY sport that I am not good at. There simply isn't enough time in the world to learn to excel at every one of your weaknesses.

I also suck at working a cash register. Should I quit my 50k a year job and go work at a cash register just because i suck at it??

On July 10 2006 10:28 pooper-scooper wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2006 21:22 artpoker_yo wrote:   On July 06 2006 21:03 bigredhoss wrote:   On July 06 2006 19:04 Arya wrote: thats a great reason to hate it... it "doesnt work for me" seems like a fine reason to me ... if you suck at something you should work to get better not jsut ignore it i will move to 6max at some point but im too lazy now, maybe after mtt thing Let us see how your theory applies to another subject: I like american football, I am good at it. I suck at the following sports: baseball, soccer, frizbee golf, curling, underwater hockey, bochee. By your advice I should be spending my time learning to play all the sports I suck at, and not the sport I am good at and enjoy. And I should continue this, until I am good at EVERY sport that I am not good at. There simply isn't enough time in the world to learn to excel at every one of your weaknesses. I also suck at working a cash register. Should I quit my 50k a year job and go work at a cash register just because i suck at it??

haha you should quit your 50k a year job and make 500k playing poker

ship it!!=]

On July 10 2006 10:28 pooper-scooper wrote: Show nested quote + On July 06 2006 21:22 artpoker_yo wrote:   On July 06 2006 21:03 bigredhoss wrote:   On July 06 2006 19:04 Arya wrote: thats a great reason to hate it... it "doesnt work for me" seems like a fine reason to me ... if you suck at something you should work to get better not jsut ignore it i will move to 6max at some point but im too lazy now, maybe after mtt thing Let us see how your theory applies to another subject: I like american football, I am good at it. I suck at the following sports: baseball, soccer, frizbee golf, curling, underwater hockey, bochee. By your advice I should be spending my time learning to play all the sports I suck at, and not the sport I am good at and enjoy. And I should continue this, until I am good at EVERY sport that I am not good at. There simply isn't enough time in the world to learn to excel at every one of your weaknesses. I also suck at working a cash register. Should I quit my 50k a year job and go work at a cash register just because i suck at it??

In poker your not always going to be able to play what you want to play ( i.e no limit games are full and you need to play something else). That is why you need to be able to play 1 or 2 other poker games so you don't get totally stuck. Of course you want to play what you are best at but sometimes that doesn't work.

On July 06 2006 18:36 Feiticeira wrote: I think Lee has a crush on Hachem

what makes you say that? its funny

So what's the verdict on the new tables?

It seems like a lot of new players are on PS now, and I'm just wondering if the quality has risen even higher? Are there any big names in disguise now grinding at PS?

Almost all of the names u don't recognize were already players on pokerstars that you would occasionally see in bigger tournaments, sngs, HU matches, on the 100/200 tables, etc.

some new people: Lifeisjust, carlos_dk, something jdoles (tom know who)

i think h@l is still king ;p

On July 10 2006 14:22 Floofy wrote: some new people: Lifeisjust, carlos_dk, something jdoles (tom know who) i think h@l is still king ;p

Lifeisjust is [NC]Yell0w according to naz

jdoles isnt new...

jdoles isn't new really, lifeisjust isn't good really, carlos_dk dunno who he is

On July 10 2006 11:43 FlopedtheJoint wrote: In poker your not always going to be able to play what you want to play ( i.e no limit games are full and you need to play something else). That is why you need to be able to play 1 or 2 other poker games so you don't get totally stuck. Of course you want to play what you are best at but sometimes that doesn't work.

well most people here play mostly online, where this statement is beyond false. we'll play live for fun but if what we want to play isnt offered, we wont even go to the place to begin with.

On July 10 2006 14:22 Floofy wrote: some new people: Lifeisjust, carlos_dk, something jdoles (tom know who) i think h@l is still king ;p

H@ll will forever be king

On July 10 2006 16:44 Ket wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2006 11:43 FlopedtheJoint wrote: In poker your not always going to be able to play what you want to play ( i.e no limit games are full and you need to play something else). That is why you need to be able to play 1 or 2 other poker games so you don't get totally stuck. Of course you want to play what you are best at but sometimes that doesn't work. well most people here play mostly online, where this statement is beyond false. we'll play live for fun but if what we want to play isnt offered, we wont even go to the place to begin with.

This is more for live games. For online games, tables can be down for maintainence and shit. Then you need to play other games. Besides it doesn't hurt if you know how to play other games.

On July 10 2006 17:34 FlopedtheJoint wrote: Show nested quote + On July 10 2006 16:44 Ket wrote:   On July 10 2006 11:43 FlopedtheJoint wrote: In poker your not always going to be able to play what you want to play ( i.e no limit games are full and you need to play something else). That is why you need to be able to play 1 or 2 other poker games so you don't get totally stuck. Of course you want to play what you are best at but sometimes that doesn't work. well most people here play mostly online, where this statement is beyond false. we'll play live for fun but if what we want to play isnt offered, we wont even go to the place to begin with. This is more for live games. For online games, tables can be down for maintainence and shit. Then you need to play other games. Besides it doesn't hurt if you know how to play other games.

I think he missed his point, online games offer a far greater variety and you can pretty much find any game any stake you wish to play online. In live games you don't have that option, you have to play what the tables are set for, the wait lists are a lot longer usually so you have to be less picky if you want a game. Your argument is completely backwards.

Bet2Win is back

that guy ownsss

the best player ive seen so far is empire. he seems to make no mistakes. where is THOR?

nm

I think bet2win is better.

Exploiting people's weakness > playing perfect poker

you playing tournaments > mig going to the expense sending hitmen to kill you (same goes for me too )