The Coronavirus thread - Page 2

hungary is getting a lock down aswell. just like the rest of the eu countries

how is it possible that we can travel to outer space and build fusion reactors yet a tiny virus generates absolute chaos on the planet in weeks? im both amazed and sad

I better leave to the US before they lock boarders out of the Canada

better start hoarding food

I am most worried that the world experts on this are in full blown panic mode but most of the world post memes and says it is like a stronger flu. I read up a bit about the Spanish Flu and we might talk about a 1-2 year long period (like back then) or even seasonal issues. This seems so much more severe than the news makes it out to be right now and it might be mainly to keep people calm and not increase hysteria. Ethical and moral concerns aside, this could be the best time in our recent lives to make money at the stox market, if you know what you are doing. Very weird times, almost surreal

some 17 year old made a site that scraps the global news media for data on the virus, it updates every minute. Quite a good resource:

https://ncov2019.live/

On March 13 2020 18:38 dnagardi wrote: hungary is getting a lock down aswell. just like the rest of the eu countries how is it possible that we can travel to outer space and build fusion reactors yet a tiny virus generates absolute chaos on the planet in weeks? im both amazed and sad

containing an infectious virus that has already spread to different continents is far more difficult and intellectually demanding than putting someone in space.

Well, these are very special times. I posted here, because I really have trouble understanding the difference right now: https://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-for...Serious_Question:_Could_COVID-...html

I mean we should be able to get a hold of it with good isolation / better tests and eventually drugs/vaccines but then again maybe the Spanish flu spread a lot slower due to the fact that travel was very different back then. I am not sure but it is morbidly fascinating. Like watching a car crash in slow-motion

I don't get why we got 2 threads

I also don't get why you think China handled the virus badly even though it seems like they literally stopped the exponential growth at 80k cases while being a 1.5 billion nation, while someone like Italy already 'beat' them in the deaths per day count @ FisheYe


I also don't get how can Canada's minister of health sleeps at night with comments as stupid as 'closing borders is bad cause travelers will travel'. Spoiler alert, idiots will be idiots regardless of the measures, taking measures justs decreases the number of idiots you have to deal with though. An argument that closing borders are bad could be made but that's definitely not it. e.g. by the time those measures are set, and how the virus is spreading .. it literally won't change much in the RNG of spreading the virus.

I only hope that the economical impact this virus is going to have won't forever change things like a Black Swan. With all the border closing, nationalistic tendencies in politics in Europe and all the panic I could easily see this evolving into the destruction of the EU, hopefully such edge scenarios wont occur though

china handled it fantastically, but dunno if it's plausible to execute that kind of response in any western country. ;p

Anyome know general time line of how long it takes from being symptomatic -->> death for an average patient who does end up dying?

On March 13 2020 11:44 LemOn[5thF] wrote: How dare you Drone, Baal used a very reputable headline from Daily Mail, an intellectual UK publication!

the washington post?

On March 14 2020 01:09 hiems wrote: Anyome know general time line of how long it takes from being symptomatic -->> death for an average patient who does end up dying?

It probably varies widely since the hospitalizatio and ICU required times are very long

On March 14 2020 01:01 Liquid`Drone wrote: china handled it fantastically, but dunno if it's plausible to execute that kind of response in any western country. ;p

They attempted to supress it, punished whistleblowers and it was only when the coverup was an imminent fail that they went nuclear with the measures, not that it would have mattered much, the west simply didn't care because they didn't understand the risks.

The WHO director is a joke, he was the first to advise to not ban travel from China, how do you get to the head of the front against pandemics while being such an incompetent fool?

Eastern ansia learned their lesson with the previous outbreaks, the west is culturally unprepared, nobody wears masks and everybody minimizes it and were all about "the flue kill more" stance.

I dont remember who's quote it is but it was something like: humanity demise will come from not understanding the quadratic function

I closed the other thread to only have 1 btw.

Plauge.inc

did anyone get my madagascar joke?

also china has a strong state which has advantages in terms of they can just order the army in to build hospitals and respond if there's an emergency

i don't see the EU having that capability but i don't know about the EU either

our esteemed president didn't listen to doctors who said to ban travel much earlier

so seeing the EU and liberals go "muh drumpf, he didn't consult us before he made a travel ban" that doesn't make sense

hey iran we see you have coronavirus is it serious? do you think we should halt travel from your country? "no it's fine iran stronk" - iranian government. oh okay they said it's okay we consulted them so it's no problem... oops now a bunch of countries are infected because of iran because they lied or didn't know what was going on

I think we should observe Italy very closely... their future is the future of Europe and north america, if this lockdown doesnt stop the spread its going to uglier than almost anybody is imagining.

Also if weather has no effect, countries like India, Indonesia Pakistan are going to be the worst affected

i don't imagine fever and pneumonia are better in sweltering humidity

but why IS flu seasonal though?

On March 14 2020 05:04 Santafairy wrote: i don't imagine fever and pneumonia are better in sweltering humidity but why IS flu seasonal though?

Airborne viruses travel further distances in low-humidity since they don't get trapped in water particles in the air, also heat kills the virus quicker while airborne, so cold + dry is ideal for seasonal influenza.

afaik it is not known yet how weathera affects SARS COVID 2 though, it looks like the southern hemisphere is doing better but also the southern hemisphere has shit government/infrastructure and they don't report accurately so we dont know.

On March 12 2020 15:40 Liquid`Drone wrote: schools in norway closed today, guessing i have a month off work or something like that now. Couldve been worse!

The county I teach in closed all of the schools today (in California). We have at least 3 weeks off from work, but we still have to upload work for students to do on Google Classroom.

I am excited to catch-up on the Netflix shows I have missed since last summer, but I am sad that my travel plans are likely ruined for the rest of 2020. Even Las Vegas has shut down many businesses in the last 2-3 days, and more are soon to come (I was in Vegas last weekend, and everything was fine).