I am very open to experiences. I am definitely a seeker of novelty. I am a foodie always on the hunt for good eats. It makes things difficult. I have to have a lot of different recipes to try.
I am pretty conscientious which is helpful. I want to do the right thing.
I am fairly extraverted and like being out and about at different restaurants. I like trying new restaurants and new food. It does not bode well for sure.
I am quite agreeable which also does not help. If someone wants to go to a certain restaurant, offers me something, or cooks something not plant based many times I really want to say yes.
I am not real heavy on eating for medication or celebration but it does happen. I am probably somewhere in the middle stability wise.
It is what it is. It is good to have knowledge of these things.
Strong guesses. I think I used to be mid openness for a significant part of my adult life, but now it has traveled more towards the mid-low part. Introversion is near maxed, stability & consc as well. Fairly low agreeableness, though I'm good at hiding it IRL.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
I honestly don't know if I can be fully compliant. I am preparing all this spinach and feta stuff at work and get intrigued. I decide to make a spinach and feta salad. I have been perfecting this salad all week. It is not like I use a lot of feta but it is high % cow growth formula fat. I know this. I overlook this. The salad is very good. As long as I am not overweight and my health seems good I may just not have the motivation. I know this is short sighted and non-WFPB will effect my health but that fact mixed with some of my personality traits makes it difficult. It is not like I am going to be going out and eating McDonald's. That is gross. I just see myself eating mostly plant based but in Charleston I am going to be looking into finding the best x, y, z restaurants and going out with people. I don't know we will see.
On the vegan aspect too. I care about it. Much of it is clearly wrong. I just don't have the gumption with that issue. I care about the environment. I care about the animals. I care about nothing. There is nothing I can do and I will be dead and then I eat a hamburger and fries and the pleasure sensors are in love. Then I eat a lobster macaroni and cheese and they sing some more. Shrimp and grits and it looks like they caught me. I am trapped. It's nothing a potato fast can't fix... or just a week of blue zones recipes. The gateway drug is always the high % cow growth formula fat. Butter and cheeses that I like. I remember someone telling me they are more addicting than cocaine.
On March 29 2017 02:56 RiKD wrote:
Personality plus true vegan = compliance
I honestly don't know if I can be fully compliant. I am preparing all this spinach and feta stuff at work and get intrigued. I decide to make a spinach and feta salad. I have been perfecting this salad all week. It is not like I use a lot of feta but it is high % cow growth formula fat. I know this. I overlook this. The salad is very good. As long as I am not overweight and my health seems good I may just not have the motivation. I know this is short sighted and non-WFPB will effect my health but that fact mixed with some of my personality traits makes it difficult. It is not like I am going to be going out and eating McDonald's. That is gross. I just see myself eating mostly plant based but in Charleston I am going to be looking into finding the best x, y, z restaurants and going out with people. I don't know we will see.
On the vegan aspect too. I care about it. Much of it is clearly wrong. I just don't have the gumption with that issue. I care about the environment. I care about the animals. I care about nothing. There is nothing I can do and I will be dead and then I eat a hamburger and fries and the pleasure sensors are in love. Then I eat a lobster macaroni and cheese and they sing some more. Shrimp and grits and it looks like they caught me. I am trapped. It's nothing a potato fast can't fix... or just a week of blue zones recipes. The gateway drug is always the high % cow growth formula fat. Butter and cheeses that I like. I remember someone telling me they are more addicting than cocaine.
Yeah, I know the battle. I've been there. Especially with cheese. The thing is, for as long as you see it as food, you'll struggle with it. I just don't see it as food anymore so I no longer have that problem. Sometimes when I see a piece of pepperoni pizza I see an artery with advanced atherosclerosis. It really does look like it. The connection is very clear in my mind: unnecessary cruelty + leads to disease = not food for me. So it completely lost its appeal to me now and man, pizza used to be my favorite food, I'd eat it nearly every day. It amazes when I look back I'm just astounded at how much our preferences can change over time.
Dr. Garth Davis talks about this in his book Proteinaholic. I dunno if you've read it yet, but he says he had to train himself to have these negative associations and view it as disgusting. He watched a lot of footage from factory farms to do that. In my experience, people tend to rationalize that away by thinking these are rare/isolated events caught on film (which isn't true, it's often industry standard), but it worked well for him and makes sense if you're coming at it from the health angle and you're addicted to PFK and Burger King or shit like that. Won't work if you have the means to buy from local farms, though.
Personally, I don't think it helps as a whole or lasts very long. I believe we're wired to think in terms of "what can I get away with" in an obesogenic environment, i.e. Cronise's "metabolic winter" hypothesis where we instinctively seek calorie dense foods to stock up for a winter that never comes. Novelty seekers/outgoing people like you are kind of doomed in an environment like that. But being aware of that and making sure you're always stocked up on filling, low-calorie density staples at home can't be overstated for such people. Another thing that helps is if you have a very clear fitness goal. It helps with establishing that relationship with food as fuel. You have positive reinforcement from eating more boring/simple meals when you see the progress you make eating clean like that. Makes it more sustainable imo.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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brambolius Netherlands. Mar 30 2017 00:22. Posts 1708
good food is good
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too much is too much
too little is too little
On March 29 2017 02:56 RiKD wrote:
Personality plus true vegan = compliance
I honestly don't know if I can be fully compliant. I am preparing all this spinach and feta stuff at work and get intrigued. I decide to make a spinach and feta salad. I have been perfecting this salad all week. It is not like I use a lot of feta but it is high % cow growth formula fat. I know this. I overlook this. The salad is very good. As long as I am not overweight and my health seems good I may just not have the motivation. I know this is short sighted and non-WFPB will effect my health but that fact mixed with some of my personality traits makes it difficult. It is not like I am going to be going out and eating McDonald's. That is gross. I just see myself eating mostly plant based but in Charleston I am going to be looking into finding the best x, y, z restaurants and going out with people. I don't know we will see.
On the vegan aspect too. I care about it. Much of it is clearly wrong. I just don't have the gumption with that issue. I care about the environment. I care about the animals. I care about nothing. There is nothing I can do and I will be dead and then I eat a hamburger and fries and the pleasure sensors are in love. Then I eat a lobster macaroni and cheese and they sing some more. Shrimp and grits and it looks like they caught me. I am trapped. It's nothing a potato fast can't fix... or just a week of blue zones recipes. The gateway drug is always the high % cow growth formula fat. Butter and cheeses that I like. I remember someone telling me they are more addicting than cocaine.
Yeah, I know the battle. I've been there. Especially with cheese. The thing is, for as long as you see it as food, you'll struggle with it. I just don't see it as food anymore so I no longer have that problem. Sometimes when I see a piece of pepperoni pizza I see an artery with advanced atherosclerosis. It really does look like it. The connection is very clear in my mind: unnecessary cruelty + leads to disease = not food for me. So it completely lost its appeal to me now and man, pizza used to be my favorite food, I'd eat it nearly every day. It amazes when I look back I'm just astounded at how much our preferences can change over time.
Dr. Garth Davis talks about this in his book Proteinaholic. I dunno if you've read it yet, but he says he had to train himself to have these negative associations and view it as disgusting. He watched a lot of footage from factory farms to do that. In my experience, people tend to rationalize that away by thinking these are rare/isolated events caught on film (which isn't true, it's often industry standard), but it worked well for him and makes sense if you're coming at it from the health angle and you're addicted to PFK and Burger King or shit like that. Won't work if you have the means to buy from local farms, though.
Personally, I don't think it helps as a whole or lasts very long. I believe we're wired to think in terms of "what can I get away with" in an obesogenic environment, i.e. Cronise's "metabolic winter" hypothesis where we instinctively seek calorie dense foods to stock up for a winter that never comes. Novelty seekers/outgoing people like you are kind of doomed in an environment like that. But being aware of that and making sure you're always stocked up on filling, low-calorie density staples at home can't be overstated for such people. Another thing that helps is if you have a very clear fitness goal. It helps with establishing that relationship with food as fuel. You have positive reinforcement from eating more boring/simple meals when you see the progress you make eating clean like that. Makes it more sustainable imo.
I may just have to get more up to speed on the animal cruelty and watch some extra candid videos. I think it was "Earthlings" that you said was the most graphic. I know what you mean with visualizing. I look at a heavily marbled steak and see the clogged arteries, the heart attack, the stroke, the dementia, the horrible living conditions (for myself and the cow). I don't see that with a burger and fries. Not that I am really eating that. I haven't had a burger and fries in over 3 months. I don't see it with the feta cheese either but I know where it goes. First a little feta in a salad and then a lasagna and then pizza, cheese and crackers, all of it but it does not have to be that way. One of the key things for me is I do my best to always have some form of soup/stew or rice and beans on hand. I have my oat bran and frozen berries and seeds always stocked as well which is easy to prepare. I am definitely wired with what can I get away with and I am also wired that I can rationalize away many things. Another thing is that I can appreciate the taste of raw fruits and vegetables tremendously which is/was a remarkable change. So, those tastes have changed over currently. The negative is I have learned that they can change back within a week of eating non-WFPB but on the plus side a good Ikarian stew can go head to head with many dishes. I can make a 6 serving Ikarian stew and will be good to go for a while. Sometimes I get sick of it but it is good enough and convenient enough that I am not looking astray. I also agree that fitness goals help. When I was losing weight my diet was really on point. Now, that I am maintaining there is a danger of it getting away from me a bit. I don't want to just be in a constant retrogression yo yo loop. Staying consistent WFPB is the best way to achieve that. I know this. It is easy to rationalize restricted calories on non-WFPB and then not restrict calories and then not care until some event like high cholesterol or overweight bmi or a pair of jeans not fitting or whatever. The struggle is real. I wish I lived in more friendly environments for this stuff. I was hanging out with this woman and we were figuring out where to go eat. I just figured I will go wherever and I can always choose to not eat. Anyways, we mentioned we could just go to our homes and eat. She had some sauteed spinach and garlic which sounds great but she was complaining she needs more protein. I should read Dr. Garth's book. I keep reading this excerpt about a morbidly obese women from Ghana that always loses weight eating the yam stews back home but can't seem to lose weight eating the "proteins" that she so "desperately" needs in the form of bacon, sausage, etc. How do you get your protein? Hah. Alright, I'm done.
On March 29 2017 09:18 VanDerMeyde wrote:
Very interesting new podcast:
For the first fucking time I heard someone say what I've always thoughta bout the fears of A.I. and alien invasion.
I dont get why hawkings and many other scientists are terrified of super intelligent beings destroying us, if we were to find a primitive isolated civilization we wouldnt destroy it, we would try to conserve it, and that is OUR current 2017 society, obviously we should expect a much more merciful treatment.
And I answer the same thing Krauss answered when Rogan asked "what if they see us as an evil parasitic species and for that reason the super intelligent species destroy us", ... then, good riddance.
"And I answer the same thing Krauss answered when Rogan asked "what if they see us as an evil parasitic species and for that reason the super intelligent species destroy us", ... then, good riddance."
Lol, that's how we know it's super intelligent. It made an accurate assessment and found the correct solution to address the problem.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
On March 29 2017 02:56 RiKD wrote:
Personality plus true vegan = compliance
I honestly don't know if I can be fully compliant. I am preparing all this spinach and feta stuff at work and get intrigued. I decide to make a spinach and feta salad. I have been perfecting this salad all week. It is not like I use a lot of feta but it is high % cow growth formula fat. I know this. I overlook this. The salad is very good. As long as I am not overweight and my health seems good I may just not have the motivation. I know this is short sighted and non-WFPB will effect my health but that fact mixed with some of my personality traits makes it difficult. It is not like I am going to be going out and eating McDonald's. That is gross. I just see myself eating mostly plant based but in Charleston I am going to be looking into finding the best x, y, z restaurants and going out with people. I don't know we will see.
On the vegan aspect too. I care about it. Much of it is clearly wrong. I just don't have the gumption with that issue. I care about the environment. I care about the animals. I care about nothing. There is nothing I can do and I will be dead and then I eat a hamburger and fries and the pleasure sensors are in love. Then I eat a lobster macaroni and cheese and they sing some more. Shrimp and grits and it looks like they caught me. I am trapped. It's nothing a potato fast can't fix... or just a week of blue zones recipes. The gateway drug is always the high % cow growth formula fat. Butter and cheeses that I like. I remember someone telling me they are more addicting than cocaine.
Yeah, I know the battle. I've been there. Especially with cheese. The thing is, for as long as you see it as food, you'll struggle with it. I just don't see it as food anymore so I no longer have that problem. Sometimes when I see a piece of pepperoni pizza I see an artery with advanced atherosclerosis. It really does look like it. The connection is very clear in my mind: unnecessary cruelty + leads to disease = not food for me. So it completely lost its appeal to me now and man, pizza used to be my favorite food, I'd eat it nearly every day. It amazes when I look back I'm just astounded at how much our preferences can change over time.
Dr. Garth Davis talks about this in his book Proteinaholic. I dunno if you've read it yet, but he says he had to train himself to have these negative associations and view it as disgusting. He watched a lot of footage from factory farms to do that. In my experience, people tend to rationalize that away by thinking these are rare/isolated events caught on film (which isn't true, it's often industry standard), but it worked well for him and makes sense if you're coming at it from the health angle and you're addicted to PFK and Burger King or shit like that. Won't work if you have the means to buy from local farms, though.
Personally, I don't think it helps as a whole or lasts very long. I believe we're wired to think in terms of "what can I get away with" in an obesogenic environment, i.e. Cronise's "metabolic winter" hypothesis where we instinctively seek calorie dense foods to stock up for a winter that never comes. Novelty seekers/outgoing people like you are kind of doomed in an environment like that. But being aware of that and making sure you're always stocked up on filling, low-calorie density staples at home can't be overstated for such people. Another thing that helps is if you have a very clear fitness goal. It helps with establishing that relationship with food as fuel. You have positive reinforcement from eating more boring/simple meals when you see the progress you make eating clean like that. Makes it more sustainable imo.
I may just have to get more up to speed on the animal cruelty and watch some extra candid videos. I think it was "Earthlings" that you said was the most graphic.
Not necessarily the most graphic, just the most powerful imo. Again, though, it's not that hard to rationalize away because it's been made into a film and you can assume these things don't happen wherever you live. You can also decide you'll only buy certified humane, which is just another lie people accept unquestioningly.
What's harder to rationalize away are the basic philosophical arguments. This video is a good introduction to them (not coming from a vegan, no preaching, etc):
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Baal, I dont know much about these issues, but I read somewhere that AI after a certain point of development always ends up aggressive and greedy (so far). And this is one of the reasons the experts worry.
Well, I'll be damned. You did post a Mercola video. You know I wasn't actually kidding when I said you could only do worse than the Weston A Price Foundation by posting Mercola videos, right?
Anyway, cliffs? I don't have the time to listen to a 90 minutes infomercial. Are vegans all going to die a slow painful if they don't consume krill oil?
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Mortensen, bro, you just posted a video. There are no arguments here. Why would you expect me to post counter-arguments? I've got nothing to answer until you give me a time frame or something because I can't sit through all that.
It's like, ok man, chew on THAT!
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
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