On December 21 2016 12:47 Loco wrote:
the best you can do is ad hom me and be a condescending cunt.
lmfao, priceless :D
and yes, I do know actual anarchists that are, you know, anarchists. Protip, they don´t spend their time writing about it or debating the human condition etc.
do they listen to punk and give grannies the finger?
new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man...
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brambolius Netherlands. Dec 21 2016 16:09. Posts 1708
On December 21 2016 12:47 Loco wrote:
the best you can do is ad hom me and be a condescending cunt.
lmfao, priceless :D
and yes, I do know actual anarchists that are, you know, anarchists. Protip, they don´t spend their time writing about it or debating the human condition etc.
do they listen to punk and give grannies the finger?
True, I view it as something abstract because the whole discussion is abstract. You cannot state such thing with certainty, its just a specualtion.
And what kind of argument is that, in the Shaman King the guy was given all emotions from people everywhere and he managed to destroy the villain. What's the point of an example out of an anime?
Almost everything is speculation, except that. Oblivion for our species is certain, if we manage to survive the threats from our own world, if we dont kill each other the sun will engulf earth, if we manage to colonize other planets the universe expansion will shred matter to pieces, nothing will remain.
So the objective of living to create something for a future is illogical
I just mentioned the anime because I watched it many years ago and I never quite understood why would he do that, and now its crystal clear to me.
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brambolius Netherlands. Dec 23 2016 02:33. Posts 1708
On December 22 2016 23:03 Baalim wrote:
Oblivion for our species is certain
Kill yourself, I'll gladly take the 0,0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 l/s for my
grand-etc-children
On December 20 2016 04:39 Baalim wrote:
I also agree with Loco that you view pain as something kind of abstract, but if you were able to somehow experience all the emotions combined in the world from all living things, every thought, every feeling going through your mind you would view things differently you would want to end it.
Thats the brilliance of Evangelion, in the end Shinji is put to that choice, feeling all emotions of the world and he has a choice and he chooses to end all life on earth.
Stop whatever it is you're doing and read this. It's a very quick read and equally brilliant, trust me. The author is an anarchist too.
On December 22 2016 23:03 Baalim wrote:
Oblivion for our species is certain
Kill yourself
That would make sense if I believed the purpose of life is to continue existing, so you should kill yourself because you want permanence and it doesn't exist.
I don't think killing to spare future suffering is moral, I am not PETA
On December 22 2016 22:43 Mortensen8 wrote:
Loco post what you ate today and btw what happened to spugru? You probably hospitalized the poor Finnish bastard.
Dunno why you'd care, but since I haven't done one of these in a few months and I like to do one of these occasionally... here's the breakdown of yesterday: http://imgur.com/a/sklvc
The actual meals were oatmeal with fruits, flax seeds, walnuts and sunflower seeds for breakfast (with soy milk). Lunch was brown rice pasta with homemade spicy tomato and vegetables sauce with TSP. Couldn't be assed to make dinner so I just toasted some kamut/chia sourdough bread and put some hummus, pumpkin seeds and tomato on it, with a side romaine salad with olives and unpasteurized kimchi (forgot to add it on cronometer). Prep time for each meals was 5-10 mins tops.
I'd guess that what happened to him is what happens to most people who try to change their diets without a supportive environment.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
I was gonna critique it and then you'd critique my BEEFCAKE! diet. Yours is looking kinda on point... apart from your irrational fear of saturated fat and high pufa/manganese.
There is a big difference between plant omega 3 and animal omega 3 in how it can be used by the body. I thought you were the potato guy why no potatoes? and why brown rice pasta? brown rice contains a lot of arsenic. That's a lot of fiber you must be taking 3 shits a day you brag about low cooking times but what about high chewing/shitting times? Why is your vitamin C so low? are you afraid of sugars as well? throw in some freshly squeezed orange juice or if you must be a faggot bell pepper.
Looks like you're provoking the wrath of mighty Baal here.
Dunno where you get that, I'm not the "potato guy". It's probably the starch I eat the less of. There was some bell pepper in my sauce, I just forgot to add it. The hummus also had some. It's just a random lazy day, I wasn't trying to eat perfectly. Vitamin C is not something I worry about at all. It's reabsorbed in our kidneys and back into our bloodstream to maintain our vitamin C blood levels up at around 70 or 80 micromoles per liter. Any more than ~200 mg per day is just excreted out.
Yeah, I take 2 or 3 good shits per day. That's what's natural and optimal. It's not an inconvenience; I guarantee you that they are much quicker and effortless than yours.
I don't like chia in oatmeal, it gives it a crappy gel-like consistency. Flax is healthier overall anyway. Raising T is not my priority. I'm ok with some sugar. I use pure maple syrup in oatmeal typically, but I am out of it now so I used erythritol instead.
Funny you'd worry about the toxic load in my diet because of brown rice. You're eating higher on the food chain, which means there are a lot more pollutants in your food. Brown rice can be prepared in a way as to reduce arsenic content significantly.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Funnily I watched the OA these past days in between the absorption of massive amounts of food, the perspective on life there is pretty... interesting, I guess is the word that describes it the best. You should check it out. The creator based it on a good amount of self made research on people with Near-Death Experiences
Btw, this was just uploaded and it reminded me of you Spitfiree (I think you were the one who had the same knee jerk reaction as the doctor in this talk re. evolution and ''rabbit food''). The second part of the video is pretty funny. The redneck only wanted to prove that this way of eating doesn't work. Or at least that's what he says.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
The diets of healthy, nonindustrialized peoples contain no refined or denatured foods or ingredients, such as refined sugar or high fructose corn syrup; white flour; canned foods; pasteurized, homogenized, skim or lowfat milk; refined or hydrogenated vegetable oils; protein powders; synthetic vitamins; or toxic additives and artificial colorings.
All traditional cultures consume some sort of animal food, such as fish and shellfish; land and water fowl; land and sea mammals; eggs; milk and milk products; reptiles; and insects. The whole animal is consumed—muscle meat, organs, bones and fat, with the organ meats and fats preferred.
The diets of healthy, nonindustrialized peoples contain at least four times the minerals and water-soluble vitamins, and TEN times the fat-soluble vitamins found in animal fats (vitamin A, vitamin D and Activator X, now thought to be vitamin K2) as the average American diet.
All traditional cultures cooked some of their food but all consumed a portion of their animal foods raw.
Primitive and traditional diets have a high content of food enzymes and beneficial bacteria from lactofermented vegetables, fruits, beverages, dairy products, meats and condiments.
Seeds, grains and nuts are soaked, sprouted, fermented or naturally leavened to neutralize naturally occurring anti-nutrients such as enzyme inhibitors, tannins and phytic acid.
Total fat content of traditional diets varies from 30 percent to 80 percent of calories but only about 4 percent of calories come from polyunsaturated oils naturally occurring in grains, legumes, nuts, fish, animal fats and vegetables. The balance of fat calories is in the form of saturated and monounsaturated fatty acids.
Traditional diets contain nearly equal amounts of omega-6 and omega-3 essential fatty acids.
All traditional diets contain some salt.
All traditional cultures make use of animal bones, usually in the form of gelatin-rich bone broths.
Traditional cultures make provisions for the health of future generations by providing special nutrient-rich animal foods for parents-to-be, pregnant women and growing children; by proper spacing of children; and by teaching the principles of right diet to the young.
The Many Roles of Saturated Fat
Saturated fats, such as butter, meat fats, coconut oil and palm oil, tend to be solid at room temperature. According to conventional nutritional dogma, these traditional fats are to blame for most of our modern diseases—heart disease, cancer, obesity, diabetes, malfunction of cell membranes and even nervous disorders like multiple sclerosis. However, many scientific studies indicate that it is processed liquid vegetable oil—which is laden with free radicals formed during processing—and artificially hardened vegetable oil—called trans fat—that are the culprits in these modern conditions, not natural saturated fats.
Humans need saturated fats because we are warm blooded. Our bodies do not function at room temperature, but at a tropical temperature. Saturated fats provide the appropriate stiffness and structure to our cell membranes and tissues. When we consume a lot of liquid unsaturated oils, our cell membranes do not have structural integrity to function properly, they become too “floppy,” and when we consume a lot of trans fat, which is not as soft as saturated fats at body temperature, our cell membranes become too “stiff.”
Contrary to the accepted view, which is not scientifically based, saturated fats do not clog arteries or cause heart disease. In fact, the preferred food for the heart is saturated fat; and saturated fats lower a substance called Lp(a), which is a very accurate marker for proneness to heart disease.
Saturated fats play many important roles in the body chemistry. They strengthen the immune system and are involved in inter-cellular communication, which means they protect us against cancer. They help the receptors on our cell membranes work properly, including receptors for insulin, thereby protecting us against diabetes. The lungs cannot function without saturated fats, which is why children given butter and full-fat milk suffer less often from asthma than children given reduced-fat milk and margarine. Saturated fats are also involved in kidney function and hormone production.
Saturated fats are required for the nervous system to function properly, and over half the fat in the brain is saturated. Saturated fats also help suppress inflammation. Finally, saturated animal fats carry the vital fat-soluble vitamins A, D and K2, which we need in large amounts to be healthy.
Human beings have been consuming saturated fats from animals products, milk products and the tropical oils for thousands of years; it is mainly the advent of modern processed vegetable oil that ihas caused the epidemic of modern degenerative disease?not the consumption of saturated fats.
You might as well link to some Mercola articles if you're going to stoop as low as the WAPF (once again). At least he didn't die of a stroke yet, unlike Mary Enig (one of its founders). Pay no attention to that though, saturated fat is really good for you. The more the better. If you avoid Enig's fate, you can at least benefit from their advice like Sally Fallon (its other founder) clearly did:
''The Picture of Radiant Health: Sally Fallon the Health Guru, in all her Wisdom''
Conclusion: One of the worst sites on the internet
Since I started writing for Science-Based Medicine almost 8 years ago, I have visited many, many websites offering questionable information about health. In my opinion, the Weston A. Price Foundation is one of the worst. It is full of misinformation and dangerous advice. It might be useful in reverse: if you read it on WAPF, it is probably wrong.
Weston Price's book--not to be mistaken with the foundation-- is interesting, but it isn't great science. In fact, we can hardly even call it science.
Btw, your entire "eternal vegan" premise is completely wrong and tiring. I have eaten meat most of my life. I've also gone back to eating meat after I first went vegan. I've already said this in the thread, yet you persist with your fiction. You have this false idea in your head that I've just jumped ship on this veganism thing and I don't know any better. I was just indoctrinated into this. You believe I just like to think that I'm right but I've only got one side of the story and I cherry-pick to support it.
You're wrong. I've done this so-called primitive diet too. I've done the raw dairy and the raw meat even. You really have no clue about my history with food. I have no problem admitting that I have been fooled in the past, and that I was unaware of a lot of data out there that didn't support my WOE. That's the main difference between you and me. I care about the truth, and I bothered to research it, and to learn how to research it. You don't know the very basics of what constitutes good nutritional science research. You just jump from blog to blog to validate your preconceived notions, and you naively treat all studies equally, because you don't know how to compare them. That's why you use the worst sources possible for your claims. You're a fucking white belt dude, get some humility and start learning a thing or two before trying to educate people.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Lol stay blue pilled pleb. Mean while your stupid website's top article is about some wonderful margarine. Sometimes you have to use your instinct and make your own decisions I'm not going to believe what they are pushing while doing loads of crap like putting fluoride in water because some poor people don't brush their teeth. Scientists rely on reputation and if you go against current dogma you will lose all credibility and receive no funding. Most of the time when they don't find their desired findings they omit relevant information.
What do you see mystics pushing? Diets low in fat and b12 vegetarianism or veganism so that subjects are more likely to have delusions/hallucinations. What do you see the media pushing degeneracy and distraction, a sick and low energy population is far easier to control than a strong and virile populace.
Your solution to low b12 is to eat none of it. The beta-carotene vitamin A which your body has trouble absorbing. Getting all of your vitamin D from the sun is not possible in northern climates. Making your body work hard converting carbs into saturated fat.
Saturated fat is the cause of all health problems according to vegans. What about vegetable oils, excessive low quality grains, excessive PUFA, diets low in vitamins/minerals, junk food, pesticides, low-quality soil, refined sugar, HFCS, aspartame, cruel farming methods keeping cattle inside and feeding them soy grains while pumping them full of chemicals, polluted water and air.
You are not more knowledgeable than me you claimed vegetarians had higher shbg and it was a good thing somehow and that's when I barely knew anything about hormones then when I pointed out that shbg is not good for testosterone you still went on as if you were had a phd in the field you never admit you don't know something at least I admit that I base my decisions on instinct and my own probably shitty faculties.
The fact that your diet doesn't contain B12 should tell you that something is wrong. The fact that humans have eaten animal products for thousands of years makes them safe in my book and I'll continue to make my own decisions and not listen to American scientists too much as the world gets stranger every day.
The highest living age for men is Iceland and I know for a fact those fuckers eat nothing but animal products they should be dead AF according to you.
I recently went to see my extended family for christmas during this time I could not buy my own food. There was 0 fruit in the house except for mandarins and they didn't eat any vegetables except potatoes. Beside the Christmas duck which had fat most of their meals were lean meats and very little fat with some rice on the side. A large part of their calories also came from chocolate, alcohol and soft drinks. My protein intake was way too high and my other meals consisted mostly of bread.
If everyone switches to veganism we will also have way less thicc girls.
You really have a bad memory (and a highly selective one). You were wrong about vegans having lower Free T and you were wrong about soy. I showed precisely how the conclusion that was drawn from the study you linked was faulty. As soon as I went into details and grabbed your hand and walked you through it with a couple pictures (because that's the only way you will learn anything) -- you bailed. You don't like digging into studies, since you have never been trained in this area and you're very well aware that it would expose you. You only have the attention span to read an abstract that validates your preconceived notion, not much more. That's what also explains your fondness for the many conspiracy theories you so frequently espouse around here. "Mystics" promoting veganism to give people hallucinations? It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetically sad. I just hope your paranoia is not the result of some undiagnosed mental illness.
I've never claimed that saturated fat is the source of all health problems. Find the quote and I'll send you $500 on Stars. In the future, quote me if you're going to critique my arguments. I won't spend any more time arguing against your repetitive strawmen. And where is this margarine I supposedly endorse now? I can't see it anywhere. Seems to me you're the one having hallucinations.
I also went in my family and my girlfriend's family for xmas. Virtually everyone is overweight or obese and medicated. They all have a lot more things in common with your diet than mine. Suffice to say, that could only ever come off as a surprise to people who get their health information from sickly looking overweight health gurus and unqualified bloggers.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
Please explain how having higher shbg by being vegan increases free testosterone that is just not true. You didn't do shit and for you to claim that I have a big ego is extremely rich. And give me a break the demonization of saturated fat is all that vegans harp on about.
You damn Canadians are about as altruistic as the damn Swedes and government has always been trying to further mankind am I right? or is it just a laundry list of savagery.
On December 27 2016 17:23 Mortensen8 wrote:
Please explain how having higher shbg by being vegan increases free testosterone that is just not true. You didn't do shit and for you to claim that I have a big ego is extremely rich. And give me a break the demonization of saturated fat is all that vegans harp on about.
How many posts about nutrition have I made in this thread? 50? More? So then if I, the mystic vegan, only ever harp upon saturated fat, it should be extremely easy for you to find a quote of me demonizing saturated fat. How about you find that. Then we can look at the bulk of my posts and see if they are also about saturated fat. Then I'll grab your hand and walk you through the testosterone stuff (the only thing your insecure one-track mind seems to care about it seems) one more time if you want.
fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount
