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cariadon   Estonia. Nov 07 2014 02:54. Posts 4019

Gnarly is like a very persistent river of bulshit. Whenever it comes into contact with unpassable terrain it just flows around it, sometimes splitting into two, and both new rivers are equally strong in current and volume after the fact.


Baalim   Mexico. Nov 07 2014 02:58. Posts 34250


  On November 06 2014 23:45 Gnarly wrote:
you have to read the chapter about ethnicity, if you aren't good at problem solving.

anyways, im not talking about social domination, that's what you are talking about it. im not saying that higher std is equal to social dominance. after all, white people would have more idiots than either asians or jews.

>historical pariahs

They are literally the majority of the global elite. it doesn't matter what they faced in the past, because all races have faced everything.



Couldnt find shit about whites having a higher std dev, make specific quotes, say exactly what page.

Yes you are talking about social domination, according to you social and economical performance as a race is based on their "peak IQs", according to you this is the white race, which so far you have provided bullshit to prove, in fact I just proved you wrong on it already.


  white people would have more idiots than either asians or jews.



You claimed whites reach higher IQs yet have lower average than asians... and for that to happen then whites would have more idiots than asians.... do I have to explain fucking basic math concepts to you?


And let me remind you again... what is the race of the living 3 highest IQs on earth? asian.

So no, historical social structure prove your pseudo-educated redneck argument wrong

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aCa_   . Nov 07 2014 02:59. Posts 470

man I don't even know what the big deal is about her being "racist". If there are blacks and mexicans on the street and they try to talk to you, the

smartest thing is just to ignore them and walk away. You can be all PC and shit and say everyone is equal and you shouldn't discriminate blah blah

blah but the fact is that a lot of them buy into that rap thug culture bullshit and they try to imitate it. I had some stuff I had to do today in another city

and just today I saw 2 black guys trying to fucking fight everyone at a bus station screaming for hours and calling everyone motherfuckers and some

mexican with no shirt and tattoos all over his body tried to get close and talk to me for no reason ( probably to rob me or some shit). goddamn I

fucking hate going to poor neighborhoods and using buses. I honestly don't get whats wrong with being a racist either as long as you don't like

violently murder people you hate or whatever. I dodge blacks and mexicans in real life dodge peruvians and pinoys in dota 2.

 Last edit: 07/11/2014 03:05

Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 03:28. Posts 1723


  On November 07 2014 01:58 Baalim wrote:
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Couldnt find shit about whites having a higher std dev, make specific quotes, say exactly what page.

Yes you are talking about social domination, according to you social and economical performance as a race is based on their "peak IQs", according to you this is the white race, which so far you have provided bullshit to prove, in fact I just proved you wrong on it already.


  white people would have more idiots than either asians or jews.



You claimed whites reach higher IQs yet have lower average than asians... and for that to happen then whites would have more idiots than asians.... do I have to explain fucking basic math concepts to you?


And let me remind you again... what is the race of the living 3 highest IQs on earth? asian.

So no, historical social structure prove your pseudo-educated redneck argument wrong


ill be honest
most of the bookmarks i have on the subject are no longer working
and most of the graphs that were floating around on the internet have been taken down
its actually hard to find this information now
but you have to read the ethnic chapter and then read the books that he noted. most of this was already compressed into graphs and you can actually find one graph

i also haven't said anything concerning social or economical performance, and I would like you to quote me on that. ive said many times that jews are the global elite.
you also haven't proved shit because you have literally provided no sources on anything.
and yes, i have literally already said that there are more stupid people than asians. that's the fucking point of higher std's. whites have a broader distribution, much like males do v female intelligence.

and let me remind you, three people out of around 2 billion doesn't speak much. also, let me remind you of the number of people who HAVEN'T taken an IQ test. so, for your point to even matter, we'd have to have a database of literally everyone's iq.

>historical social structure

Remember that history is written by the winners. the social structure is that the high class rules the low class. i mean, have you even looked into russian serfdom?

>redneck

when you do these ad homs, you lose all credibility.

Diversify or fossilize!Last edit: 07/11/2014 03:32

Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 03:30. Posts 1723


  On November 07 2014 01:54 cariadon wrote:
Gnarly is like a very persistent river of bulshit. Whenever it comes into contact with unpassable terrain it just flows around it, sometimes splitting into two, and both new rivers are equally strong in current and volume after the fact.



i mean, i don't even know what this has to do with the topic at hand. at least im providing citations, what are you providing? an excuse for the swing of a ban-hammer?

Diversify or fossilize! 

Baalim   Mexico. Nov 07 2014 04:22. Posts 34250


  On November 07 2014 02:28 Gnarly wrote:
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ill be honest
most of the bookmarks i have on the subject are no longer working
and most of the graphs that were floating around on the internet have been taken down
its actually hard to find this information now
but you have to read the ethnic chapter and then read the books that he noted. most of this was already compressed into graphs and you can actually find one graph

i also haven't said anything concerning social or economical performance, and I would like you to quote me on that. ive said many times that jews are the global elite.
you also haven't proved shit because you have literally provided no sources on anything.
and yes, i have literally already said that there are more stupid people than asians. that's the fucking point of higher std's. whites have a broader distribution, much like males do v female intelligence.

and let me remind you, three people out of around 2 billion doesn't speak much. also, let me remind you of the number of people who HAVEN'T taken an IQ test. so, for your point to even matter, we'd have to have a database of literally everyone's iq.

>historical social structure

Remember that history is written by the winners. the social structure is that the high class rules the low class. i mean, have you even looked into russian serfdom?

>redneck

when you do these ad homs, you lose all credibility.



What statements ive made that you doubt its legitimacy so I can gladly provide you with sources.

Because so far you still havent provided any evidence than caucasians have a higher stdandard deviation than asians in intelligence.

Also you dont need to test literally everyone for IQ... crazy that we are talking about statistics and you say that nonsense lol, sample size buddy, also people with really exeptional IQs are usually tested, and in any case it would be easier to have "lost geniuses" in asian countries than in caucasian for obvious reasons.

Yes social structure is high class rules over low class, but what you are advocating is that the race with higer std dev in intelligence becomes the high class ruling class and again, that is not true.

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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 04:23. Posts 1723

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm

neat little site

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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 04:35. Posts 1723

http://infoproc.blogspot.com/2008/06/asian-white-iq-variance-from-pisa.html

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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 04:37. Posts 1723

but wait, here's the kicker, the chinese are known for mass cheating to boost their "iq" scores and test scores and they fake their college applications a lot.

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cariadon   Estonia. Nov 07 2014 04:38. Posts 4019


  On November 07 2014 02:30 Gnarly wrote:
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i mean, i don't even know what this has to do with the topic at hand. at least im providing citations, what are you providing? an excuse for the swing of a ban-hammer?


Oh i want the ban-hammer to swing alright.


cariadon   Estonia. Nov 07 2014 04:54. Posts 4019

We are fascinated by your resilience and persistency, not so much with your wits and search engine use.

It actually appears as you are imitating what some might call educating oneself and acquiring knowledge.


brambolius   Netherlands. Nov 07 2014 07:19. Posts 1708


  On November 06 2014 16:50 Gnarly wrote:
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because europe wasn't raped by african slave trades and arab slave trades and english slave trades and russian serfdom and the black plague and multiple crusades and the inquisition, right?





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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 07 2014 09:58. Posts 9634

ethnicity has nothing to do with IQ
the very fact that you think those two things have anything in common is more tragic than laughable for me and i rarely feel pity for dumb people

IQ is related to finding logical patterns
ethnicity is based on culture


thinking that you will argue about that ====> obviously there are ethnic groups who's poverty is off the roofs averagely and others that almost have none ( jews for example ) which drops their stnd dev to a practical minimum

anyway what i mean is IQ and Ethnos in a vacuum have nothing to do with each other

 Last edit: 07/11/2014 10:07

Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 12:39. Posts 1723


  On November 07 2014 03:22 Baalim wrote:
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What statements ive made that you doubt its legitimacy so I can gladly provide you with sources.

Because so far you still havent provided any evidence than caucasians have a higher stdandard deviation than asians in intelligence.

Also you dont need to test literally everyone for IQ... crazy that we are talking about statistics and you say that nonsense lol, sample size buddy, also people with really exeptional IQs are usually tested, and in any case it would be easier to have "lost geniuses" in asian countries than in caucasian for obvious reasons.

Yes social structure is high class rules over low class, but what you are advocating is that the race with higer std dev in intelligence becomes the high class ruling class and again, that is not true.



you need better reading comprehension. you keep saying that i am saying that the white race rules the world, but that's not true. i keep saying that the jews are the global elite. they don't have a higher std. also, according to the 2006 flynn iq scores of countries, whites actually do have a higher average than asians. ill find that information for you in just a bit.

and yes, we do need to test everyone, because as you say, sample size. Three people isn't much of a sample.

http://www.sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

when you combine all european nations and then combine all asian countries, not just china, korea, and japan, you get that the euro countries have a higher average. this information used to be quite available but most of it was on uk sites, which the uk has been actively censoring their internet for quite some time now.

Diversify or fossilize!Last edit: 07/11/2014 12:53

Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 12:40. Posts 1723


  On November 07 2014 08:58 Spitfiree wrote:
ethnicity has nothing to do with IQ
the very fact that you think those two things have anything in common is more tragic than laughable for me and i rarely feel pity for dumb people

IQ is related to finding logical patterns
ethnicity is based on culture


thinking that you will argue about that ====> obviously there are ethnic groups who's poverty is off the roofs averagely and others that almost have none ( jews for example ) which drops their stnd dev to a practical minimum

anyway what i mean is IQ and Ethnos in a vacuum have nothing to do with each other



but different ethnic groups have differing iq averages, and to say that the brains of different breeds of humans don't differ, but are all the same, is absolutely asinine. ethnicity is based on your geographical location, which eventually spawns culture. remember, culture is linked to genetics.

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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 12:41. Posts 1723


  On November 07 2014 06:19 brambolius wrote:
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are you saying these things didn't happen or that they don't matter cause it's against white people?

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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 16:44. Posts 1723

http://www.aaanet.org/gvt/ombdraft.htm

a pretty good read

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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Nov 07 2014 17:00. Posts 6374

LOL thread still running strong

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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 07 2014 17:21. Posts 9634


Baalim   Mexico. Nov 07 2014 21:24. Posts 34250

All right Gnarly I'll leave the ad-hominems aside and try to have an intelligent discussion if you promise to argue intelligently and actually try to find the truth and not impose what you believe it is.

I see a lot of deception in the 2nd link you posted (havent read the 1st yet) : http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/sft.htm



that graph its trying to exemplify what a difference in STD dev does, its greatly exaggerated to make it easier to see, but in that its totally deceptive, because the difference in STD dev is so low, the amount of people in the "smart area" would be virtually the same, the significant change even with a slight difference in std deviation are the absolute extremes, there would be noticeable more brilliant/dumb white people and NOT significantly more whites in the arbitrary smart area and this has two problems:

1 - If what you think its true, then it means that civilizations and society dominate or succeed mostly not because of collective effort or intelligence, rather than carried by geniuses (something I actually believe) and the reason why I value more std deviation in intelligence than average.

That means you are not really any more intelligent or outperform significantly blacks or other races, they simply have lacked these giants to help them climb the social ladder

2 - If what they are lacking are "giants" then it proves that its not direct collective intelligence what matters, but the social fabric these "giants" weave for the rest of their society, meaning they are suck there underperforming because of social development not personal intelligence, and that was my first argument to begin with.

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