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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 05 2014 18:07. Posts 34250 | | |
| On November 04 2014 23:12 Gnarly wrote:
baalim, americans are under the impression that mexican culture is one of hard workers and whatnot.
also, with the asian IQ thing, if you are going by the bell curve, white people actually are the ones who can achieve the highest iq, by like 30 points over asians. it's just that white's average iq is lower than asians average iq, though they are only second in highest possible. |
Well first generation migrants usually migrate in search of better opportunities and to provide for their families and they are used to hard labor and poor pay so they are obviously more than willing to work harder than americans and willing to do shift and jobs nobody else would take, bur certainly the Mexican ideology isnt one of hard work and success, its of family and having a jolly time.
If you are going to claim that the white race has a higher STD dev in IQ you better put some solid sources about it or gtfo because the 3 modern highest IQs recorded are asian.
Also if you are going to argue that the highest IQs rule the world, the smartest race in the world overall by far are the jewish and well, they have been pretty much historical pariahs
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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 05 2014 19:36. Posts 34250 | | |
I agree with drone, I am not blaming a race of their lack of success, they are victims of the circumstances and we as culture and also as individuals are more adrift at the circumstances than we like to believe.
Thats why Gnarlys pointing fingers attitude is ridiculous, have he been born in a different culture he would probably be just like the ones he seems so eager to judge.
About you not willing to admit about genetics even if it were true its a bit silly but I get it, because the difference is so slight and meaningless the only people who will cling to that argument are racists, but when somebody pulls that shit thankfully asians always help, if some white argues about genetic intellectual superiority you can always bring up how inferior he is to asians, and if asians are going eugenics too, just reminds them about penis size
That being said, even if we are victim of the circumstances the pont still remains that what really is holding blacks or other races down isnt whites, its their own culture, if this was or is nurtured by whites its true but that is a point that fades that the way to solve is by changing our own culture. |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 06 2014 02:09. Posts 1723 | | |
| On November 05 2014 17:07 Baalim wrote:
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On November 04 2014 23:12 Gnarly wrote:
baalim, americans are under the impression that mexican culture is one of hard workers and whatnot.
also, with the asian IQ thing, if you are going by the bell curve, white people actually are the ones who can achieve the highest iq, by like 30 points over asians. it's just that white's average iq is lower than asians average iq, though they are only second in highest possible. |
Well first generation migrants usually migrate in search of better opportunities and to provide for their families and they are used to hard labor and poor pay so they are obviously more than willing to work harder than americans and willing to do shift and jobs nobody else would take, bur certainly the Mexican ideology isnt one of hard work and success, its of family and having a jolly time.
If you are going to claim that the white race has a higher STD dev in IQ you better put some solid sources about it or gtfo because the 3 modern highest IQs recorded are asian.
Also if you are going to argue that the highest IQs rule the world, the smartest race in the world overall by far are the jewish and well, they have been pretty much historical pariahs
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do you not know what the fuck the BELL CURVE is? it's a book written in '94. go read it. also, what is iq? only pattern recognition? what about abstract thought?
even then, do you know who makes up the majority of the global elite? the fucking jews. |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 06 2014 02:12. Posts 1723 | | |
| On November 05 2014 18:36 Baalim wrote:
I agree with drone, I am not blaming a race of their lack of success, they are victims of the circumstances and we as culture and also as individuals are more adrift at the circumstances than we like to believe.
Thats why Gnarlys pointing fingers attitude is ridiculous, have he been born in a different culture he would probably be just like the ones he seems so eager to judge.
About you not willing to admit about genetics even if it were true its a bit silly but I get it, because the difference is so slight and meaningless the only people who will cling to that argument are racists, but when somebody pulls that shit thankfully asians always help, if some white argues about genetic intellectual superiority you can always bring up how inferior he is to asians, and if asians are going eugenics too, just reminds them about penis size
That being said, even if we are victim of the circumstances the pont still remains that what really is holding blacks or other races down isnt whites, its their own culture, if this was or is nurtured by whites its true but that is a point that fades that the way to solve is by changing our own culture. |
i think you have me confused with someone who is proud to be white and is a white nationalist? im not saying that white people are the best people in the world.
then again, you say it's their own culture, but what about african countries? i mean, it can't be a coincidence that ALL black countries are shit? "oh, it's just their culture" but there's so many differing cultures. maybe their culture is a product of their genetics?
now, tell me what my culture is. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 06 2014 03:24. Posts 34250 | | |
| On November 06 2014 01:09 Gnarly wrote:
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On November 05 2014 17:07 Baalim wrote:
| On November 04 2014 23:12 Gnarly wrote:
baalim, americans are under the impression that mexican culture is one of hard workers and whatnot.
also, with the asian IQ thing, if you are going by the bell curve, white people actually are the ones who can achieve the highest iq, by like 30 points over asians. it's just that white's average iq is lower than asians average iq, though they are only second in highest possible. |
Well first generation migrants usually migrate in search of better opportunities and to provide for their families and they are used to hard labor and poor pay so they are obviously more than willing to work harder than americans and willing to do shift and jobs nobody else would take, bur certainly the Mexican ideology isnt one of hard work and success, its of family and having a jolly time.
If you are going to claim that the white race has a higher STD dev in IQ you better put some solid sources about it or gtfo because the 3 modern highest IQs recorded are asian.
Also if you are going to argue that the highest IQs rule the world, the smartest race in the world overall by far are the jewish and well, they have been pretty much historical pariahs
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do you not know what the fuck the BELL CURVE is? it's a book written in '94. go read it. also, what is iq? only pattern recognition? what about abstract thought?
even then, do you know who makes up the majority of the global elite? the fucking jews. |
You retarded dumbfuck, I know what the gaussian function is, you are the idiot claiming that while the average asian IQ is higher whites reach higher IQs that my friend means that in a normal distribution of IQ whites would populate more heavily on the extreme ends therefore having a higher mother fucking stand deviation in IQ.
I said that if you are going to make such a claim you need to put some sources or get the fuck out, and sorry but "in a book written in 92 go read it" wont cut it.
Could somebody ban this dumb motherfucker already ? |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 06 2014 03:51. Posts 1723 | | |
keep calling for my ban
http://jaymans.wordpress.com/jaymans-race-inheritance-and-iq-f-a-q-f-r-b/
explain global consistency of racial culture. you imply that all blacks partake in the same culture globally, which is why they are "oppressed," if you will, as you say. this also implies that racial cultures are products of varying genetics, though you try to argue against this idea without realizing your fruedian slip. |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 06 2014 04:18. Posts 1723 | | |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 06 2014 05:17. Posts 9634 | | |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 06 2014 10:55. Posts 1723 | | |
iq means quite a bit. i mean, if you're stupid, you're going to be dead more often than not at an earlier age than someone who is smart.
http://jaymans.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/g-hierarchy.png
please look at it.
I also think that calling for an unjustified ban to be an intentional derailing and also an unnecessary personal attack should be met with a ban itself. keep calling me a fucktard without providing your own citations, only your anecdotes. |
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brambolius   Netherlands. Nov 06 2014 16:51. Posts 1708 | | |
| On November 06 2014 01:12 Gnarly wrote:
maybe their culture is a product of their genetics?
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Because modern day African culture hasn't been dumped on by western colonialism for years and years, right ? Right ? |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 06 2014 17:31. Posts 9634 | | |
| On November 06 2014 09:55 Gnarly wrote:
iq means quite a bit. i mean, if you're stupid, you're going to be dead more often than not at an earlier age than someone who is smart.
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Not really... and my bad i was referring to the wrong person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Te...ughts_and_Research_on_Gifted_Children
This is the guy I meant to post
I used to be a hard IQ tests supporter.
This guy literally devoted his life to people with insanely high IQ. He took thousands of kids who according to current MENSA's understandings would be geniuses and filtered most of them with even worse IQ tests to leave a few hundred with the highest IQ. They were his research for decades. He wrote a few books about their life development as he expected as they were smarter that they would be much more efficient in society in things they do, things they discover, he expected them to be innovators etc etc. In the end after 40 or so years he found out that his research was actually as good as toilette paper as the sample of prodigies led the same life as another random sample of average IQ people ( I think the cap was around 120IQ in current understandings )
There was a book in which they compared someone from the "Termites" who was from an abusive low class family, who won a bunch of "who wants to be a millionaire" and such type of shows later in life to Oppenheimer who wasn't really a genius, but grew up in a high class family with parents that knew what they were doing. Obviously the comparison made has this huge social contrast, but its only to make a more solid point. One had the brain to do wonders, but in the end he just blew through all the money he had. The other became the creator of the atomic bomb, which obviously is morally questionable, but still scientifically huge.
You could be a retard, but if you develop the right habits and have the right mindset you can go a long way. It's very important how you view yourself from an early age, how you threat people that have higher authority than you, finding the right sources to motivate yourself etc etc.
There are tons of factors and the IQ is just a really small insignificant part of them, I'd say self-awareness being the most important factor and I don't mean it in the geeky embarrassing kind of way, but the opposite.
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 06 2014 17:50. Posts 1723 | | |
| On November 06 2014 15:51 brambolius wrote:
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On November 06 2014 01:12 Gnarly wrote:
maybe their culture is a product of their genetics?
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Because modern day African culture hasn't been dumped on by western colonialism for years and years, right ? Right ?
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because europe wasn't raped by african slave trades and arab slave trades and english slave trades and russian serfdom and the black plague and multiple crusades and the inquisition, right? |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 06 2014 17:58. Posts 1723 | | |
| On November 06 2014 16:31 Spitfiree wrote:
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On November 06 2014 09:55 Gnarly wrote:
iq means quite a bit. i mean, if you're stupid, you're going to be dead more often than not at an earlier age than someone who is smart.
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Not really... and my bad i was referring to the wrong person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Te...ughts_and_Research_on_Gifted_Children
This is the guy I meant to post
I used to be a hard IQ tests supporter.
This guy literally devoted his life to people with insanely high IQ. He took thousands of kids who according to current MENSA's understandings would be geniuses and filtered most of them with even worse IQ tests to leave a few hundred with the highest IQ. They were his research for decades. He wrote a few books about their life development as he expected as they were smarter that they would be much more efficient in society in things they do, things they discover, he expected them to be innovators etc etc. In the end after 40 or so years he found out that his research was actually as good as toilette paper as the sample of prodigies led the same life as another random sample of average IQ people ( I think the cap was around 120IQ in current understandings )
There was a book in which they compared someone from the "Termites" who was from an abusive low class family, who won a bunch of "who wants to be a millionaire" and such type of shows later in life to Oppenheimer who wasn't really a genius, but grew up in a high class family with parents that knew what they were doing. Obviously the comparison made has this huge social contrast, but its only to make a more solid point. One had the brain to do wonders, but in the end he just blew through all the money he had. The other became the creator of the atomic bomb, which obviously is morally questionable, but still scientifically huge.
You could be a retard, but if you develop the right habits and have the right mindset you can go a long way. It's very important how you view yourself from an early age, how you threat people that have higher authority than you, finding the right sources to motivate yourself etc etc.
There are tons of factors and the IQ is just a really small insignificant part of them, I'd say self-awareness being the most important factor and I don't mean it in the geeky embarrassing kind of way, but the opposite.
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if you expect smart people to be innovators, that's quite a jump. intelligence does have an effect on personality, but when it comes to innovating and such, it's more the personality that matters. (ie: mtbi type) being smart can hinder your social skills, or you can be too smart in one aspect but lack smarts in another, and this will hurt you depending on which jobs are available to you in your area. the american jews pre ww2 were poor and whatnot, yet have risen to the global elite within 50 years. so, obviously, considering they have the highest average intelligence of all ethnic groups, that there could very well be some correlation there.
HOWEVER, when it came to living in villages and having to actually hunt for your food and the need to survive was ever present, those who were smarter lived longer. they were more likely to be the alpha of the village.
i know someone i work with has the same exact personality type I have, and everyone says we could be brothers, but everyone knows that im far smarter than him and everyone calls him a dumbass behind his back because of how much money he "leaves on the table".
one should realize where they are strong and weak at, and seek to find those who are strong in their weak areas to work with. being a one-man genius-team doesn't work out much. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Nov 06 2014 21:58. Posts 34250 | | |
Quote the specific part where it talks about the white race having a higher std deviation than asians, im not going to read a whole fucking book finding the sources of YOUR argument.
And who cares if some Jews are very powerful, your argument was about social domination, im not claiming IQ is meaningless ofcourse its very important, but even if what you said about the white higher STD dev, Jews have an ever higher STD dev, and they are historical social pariahs, so no... nor asians or jews rule this world despise being ahead of whites in IQ.
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 00:45. Posts 1723 | | |
you have to read the chapter about ethnicity, if you aren't good at problem solving.
anyways, im not talking about social domination, that's what you are talking about it. im not saying that higher std is equal to social dominance. after all, white people would have more idiots than either asians or jews.
>historical pariahs
They are literally the majority of the global elite. it doesn't matter what they faced in the past, because all races have faced everything. |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 01:02. Posts 1723 | | |
>be white (female)
>apply for job in Worst Korea
>not simply rejected, but told why
>"we don't want irishu alcohol-piggu"
>"and u?"
>"no"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29929333
What was that about white people getting easy jobs in South Korea? |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 01:21. Posts 1723 | | |
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Spitfiree   Bulgaria. Nov 07 2014 01:52. Posts 9634 | | |
Yap i agree with Baal, you are a retard
I went into particulars that didn't mean much, you caught up the first one that made sense to attack and wrote a longass stupidass post (facepalm)
I guess you are right, its not like a professor, that devoted 40 years of his life and died and then his study continued through Stanford until every one of the examined subjects died, tore your arguments to shred with fucking scientific research data.
I wont even begin how stupid your other posts are |
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Gnarly   United States. Nov 07 2014 02:08. Posts 1723 | | |
what exactly is my argument? i have this weird feeling that you don't actually know what it is.
also, self-awareness is linked to intelligence
| He naively assumed that his high IQ kids (nearly all white) would become the future leaders of science, industry, and politics. |
I don't see how this even comes close to anything I'm arguing about. I've talked about how before civilization that being smart really fucking mattered. Like, as in, we literally had to hunt for our food and skin animals to make clothes. If you can't remember how to do things to let you live, you'll die. If you can't judge the distance between you and your prey, you will starve to death. If you can't figure out a way to put your bone back in place, you will die.
You just simply make a one-liner saying "iq doesn't matter much" when I'm talking about differing iq averages for different ethnic groups. You're just trying to say that iq doesn't matter to try to make it seem like there's really no biological differences between ethnic groups. |
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SugoGosu   Korea (South). Nov 07 2014 02:42. Posts 1793 | | |
| On November 07 2014 00:02 Gnarly wrote:
>be white (female)
>apply for job in Worst Korea
>not simply rejected, but told why
>"we don't want irishu alcohol-piggu"
>"and u?"
>"no"
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29929333
What was that about white people getting easy jobs in South Korea? |
teaching elementary school students to say hello isn't hard, plus it even said that she got another job in the damn article. 1 example of a racist private cram school means less than cow shit |
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