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Baalim   Mexico. Oct 30 2014 22:02. Posts 34250


  On October 30 2014 14:00 MyAnacondaDont wrote:
I give example of white privilege. My father is a professional conman. Swindles millions. Been caught twice, last stint was 10 years. Hes obviously white because black people only rob liquor and convenient stores when they steal. Anyway, my one friend who is black, stole some shit because hes poor as fuck, shot in the heart, dead. My father is swindling 100,000s, millions, right the fuck now, and he ain't getting shot over it.. That's white privilege. If black men get shot for stealing sub 100$ shit, what you think happens to a black person who swindles millions? Its easier to be a big time conman when you are white instead of black. If my dad was black, never would of he had the opportunity to fuck people over so hard.



That is about class privilege, a guy robbing a store at goin point is more likely to get shot than a non-violent sofisticated swindler regardless of their race. Im not saying theres no white privilege but this is an example of it.


Anyway stop discussing with Gnarly he is a huge clueless moron

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devon06atX   Canada. Oct 31 2014 00:04. Posts 5458


  On October 30 2014 21:02 Baalim wrote:
Anyway stop discussing with Gnarly he is a huge clueless moron

Stop feeding him then.

And btw, Drone, I'd love to have a couple beer with you and talk shit. You seem like a pretty solid fellow. I think I could learn a fair amount from you.

ps. Fuck Amaya.


Srsbob   Canada. Oct 31 2014 00:30. Posts 30

I dont think there is white privilege. Look at USA, they have black president for christs sake. Wheres the white privilege in that?


devon06atX   Canada. Oct 31 2014 00:36. Posts 5458


  On October 30 2014 23:30 Srsbob wrote:
I dont think there is white privilege. Look at USA, they have black president for christs sake. Wheres the white privilege in that?

pls ban this fuckers ip. Or his county. Or something.

Seriously, Give Baal a mod-stick already.

edit - or fuck, UPDATE the site to deal with this kinda crap, HEY???

 Last edit: 31/10/2014 00:42

Gnarly   United States. Oct 31 2014 01:05. Posts 1723

yeah, im a moron for thinking that black people and white people are inherently different down to a genetic level. go tell that to the science fields which catalog the differences.

>a person is white skinned
>a person is black skinned
>but there is no difference between them

Give me more scenarios of white privilege without using stop and frisk. We've already discusses how black people over-represent themselves in crime, therefor, stopping and frisking should reflect actual factual data. (something the FBI has been hesitant in talking about)

What about the white privilege where a black person can pursue an african studies degree and get his degree, even though it's complete bullshit because the person who runs the departments is making sure that a lot of black people get their degrees regardless if they actually passed or not. (yes, this was in the news this very month, if you want to do your research.) it seems that it's inherent in even black people to expect black people to fail. Just like Eric Holder telling public schools not to punish black children as much as the other kids are. I guess even he expects black people to have no respect for authority? Is he a racist?

I've thought of a thing called: Mobile Minority, where minority status is fluid. If you're part of the national demographic, you're still in the national majority, but if you're in a city where you are the minority, municipally, you're a minority.

Diversify or fossilize! 

Loco   Canada. Oct 31 2014 02:02. Posts 20963


  On October 30 2014 23:36 devon06atX wrote:
Show nested quote +

pls ban this fuckers ip. Or his county. Or something.

Seriously, Give Baal a mod-stick already.

edit - or fuck, UPDATE the site to deal with this kinda crap, HEY???


you mean give him the mod-stick back, he lost it for mocking the looks of raszi's gf :D

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

Daut    United States. Oct 31 2014 02:20. Posts 8955

white privilege permeates western culture. white man walking down the street is welcomed as a normal person, a black man is not. systemic racism is everywhere.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelblackm...wing-examples-of-white-privilege-9hu9

http://jimbuie.blogs.com/journal/2007/11/50-examples-of-.html

seriously just google shit that happens to black or POC every day.

jose zamora changes name to joe zamora on resume and receives influx of job offers:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09...joe-job-discrimination_n_5753880.html


not to mention that poverty begets more poverty. someone born into a low income household with uneducated parents in an area with bad school systems has a very low chance of success in life. crime is not a race issue, as drone said its a poverty and education issue, and until our country improves education everywhere, not just at the grade school levels, but also makes college more accessible to all, people born into bad luck are not going to have an easy time prospering.

white privilege is everywhere. not believing it exists is like not believing in climate change.

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 31/10/2014 02:22

cariadon   Estonia. Oct 31 2014 02:25. Posts 4019

Target group of silly-ass videos like these: Gnarlies all around the world. No surprise he falls for those traps every fucking time and takes a massive diarrhea dump on liquidpoker yet again. Gnarly is so stupid it is becoming criminal. If it were up to me i'd ban him without second thought. Eventually, beyond the horizon, there is a line that shouldn't be crossed. With Gnarly it is the opposite, he fucking resides there and ever so often takes a leap out of the mental hospital capacities and thus crosses the line the other way. He also displays 0% chance of any improvement.

Reading Balthazars art of wordly wisdom and i'd like to contribute this thought.
"Many never lose their common sense, because they have none to lose."


Gnarly   United States. Oct 31 2014 03:21. Posts 1723

>crime is because of poverty
>yet white people literally outnumber black people in america in poverty
>yet black people commit the most crime of all groups

I mean, please explain that to me.

Alright, Daut:


  1. Because of white privilege, you’ll never have to worry about becoming the victim of law enforcement officers.



I have been the victim of police many, many times. I am white. I've been punched in the face for no reason at all at a cop so pissed off that he couldn't get me with an actual crime because I wasn't ever committing a crime. (unless you count driving at night a crime)


  2. Thankfully, you’ll never have to know what it feels like to see your teenage son’s death being mocked.



Is this to say that white's can't be mocked in death? Because I can bring up cases where people were mocking the death of their victim's to their parents. Shit, there's a guy doing just that right now in Russia. (white on white death mocking, such a myth)


  3. Because of white privilege, you’ll never have to inform your children of the harsh realities of systemic racism.



Actually, my children will have to learn that because they are white, they will be less likely admitted into college for the same grades as a black student. They will also have to learn that diversity of the workforce is mandatory and that the less white people there happen to be, the more diverse of a company it is. (you remember the company that literally only had four white guys working in it out of numerous women, but everyone threw a shitfest?) They will also have to learn that they are not allowed to be proud of their heritage, which a lot of people in this world take homage in, even if you don't. People like to feel connected to their roots and it gives them a sense of identity, but my children will learn that their "roots" are actually "chains from a slave master." Even though less than 1% of the white population even owned slaves, and that slavery put the working class out of jobs. Nor will things like the Irish Potato Famine, the Arab Slave Trade, or even the Barbary pirates, be learned in history. Instead, they will only learn of "poc" struggles, which again implies that there's a difference between human breeds. (which I know drone is having a severe hissy fit about that idea)


  4. White privilege means you can be articulate and well spoken without people being “surprised.”



Everyone is surprised when someone is actually well spoken. Most white people aren't well spoken. Totes McGotes, bro.


  5. Because of white privilege, you’ll never know what it’s like to have the following statistic looming over your head.



This is about being sent to prison, but then again, they also are over represented in crimes committed by a factor of almost 4. Should we stop sending black people who commit crime to jail in order to reach the point where they are found guilty in proportion to their population size? I mean, that's quite exactly what Eric Holder wants public schools to do: to stop punishing black students when they break the rules. Isn't that a privilege, to be expected to break the rules, and then not get in trouble when you do break the rules?


  6. You can wear and act however you’d like without being labeled a thug, low life, gangster, etc.



Again, dismissing reality. White people can actually be labeled things. White people label each other rednecks, trailer trash, wiggers, etc. all the time.


  7. White privilege allows you to speak on any particular subject without being the sole representative for your entire race.



Yeah, when a white person commits a mass murder, that person ACTED for the entire race. I can find you numerous articles stating just that.


  8. White privilege means no one questions why you got that really great job; it’s assumed you were just highly qualified.



Have you seen that video where it shows a white person and a black person racing, but the white person is an auto track or something? And then the words "ol' boy network" pop up? If not, I will find you that video.


  9. White privilege means not having to worry about your hair, skin color, or cultural accessories as the reason you didn’t get a job.



I have personally been laughed at for applying for a kitchen job because everyone expects only wetbacks to work there. Because of that, I can't actually do any kitchen work. Out of all the restaurants I've worked at, the entire kitchen has always been family. Some of their families are quite big, meaning that one family will have networks at a lot of restaurants. I was always seeing a new relative of the kitchen staff coming in every month. Yet, when I want to try to get my friend a job, it's not gonna happen because the boss doesn't want anyone to think that I got my friend hired just because he's my friend. There are places that I've worked at that literally had betting pools of when certain white people were going to quit. I shit you not. I made a lot of people lose money by deliberately not quitting.


  10. White privilege means you don’t have to worry about being monitored in a store just because the hue of your skin is a bit darker than most.



I've been monitored in many stores.


  11. Having white privilege means people will never label you a terrorist.



Re:number 7


  12. White privilege means not being affected by negative stereotypes that have been perpetuated and ingrained so much into American society that people believe them to be fact.



Like how all white people are rich?


  13. White privilege means you never have to explain why cultural appropriation is a bad thing.



Read up on the vikings. They "appropriated" a lot of different cultures, which resulted in the loss of their own.


  14. White privilege means not having to worry about being stopped and frisked.



I've been stopped and frisked before.


  15. If you benefit from white privilege, you’ll never be told to “get over slavery.”



Re:number 3


  16. White privilege means that you’re never just your own person.



When someone white tries to act like samuel jackson, they are always told to stop. Only black people can pull off samuel jackson.


  17. Benefitting from white privilege means you can walk the Earth unaware of your color.



BUT YOU WHITE PEOPLE ALWAYS OPPRESSING PEOPLE OF COLOR

Wouldn't it be nice to be thought of as having color? After all, white is the combination of all colors, while black is the complete absence of color. If I have to be told that I have white privilege for being white, doesn't that immediately make me aware of my race?

Diversify or fossilize! 

Gnarly   United States. Oct 31 2014 03:28. Posts 1723


  1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.



This is untrue. In fact, when white people try to organize any sort of "white" event, it is forced to be shut down. It is thought to be violent against people of color.


  2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.



I don't get this. Is it saying that white people are segregated? Or is it saying that white's don't have to spend time with black, but blacks must spend time with whites? How the fuck would that even make sense?


  3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.[/quote

Section 8 housing.

[quote]4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.



The very first day my neighbors moved in, they fucked up our sewage in purpose to make their sewage even better. They consistently blast tejano music all day. Their dogs are always out and about with no leashes on, and trust me, having a husky you don't know charging at you as you walk out your front door isn't fun. There's also across the street with the guy who literally blasted rap at a specific time every single day so loud you could literally hear it for a mile away.

Also, section 8 housing.


  5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.



I've already gone over this.


  6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.



Even though white people make up about 65% of america's pop. and black's 13%, should blacks start being cast more? I mean, should we start having a 20% quota for black casting members? Is it wrong that white people make up the majority of casting members in a nation where white people are the majority?


  7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.



Well, yeah. White people accounted for more than 80% of the pop just a couple of decades ago.


  8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.



Uhmm... What?

You know what, I gotta go to bed.

>going to buzzfeed

Diversify or fossilize! 

Gnarly   United States. Oct 31 2014 03:30. Posts 1723

>believing in climate change

Well, yeah, the climate always changes. The Earth doesn't just sit still, ya dingus. Have you never heard of this thing called :ice age: or :season

Diversify or fossilize! 

Srsbob   Canada. Oct 31 2014 03:38. Posts 30

I dont believe that a cop punched you in the face for not committing a crime!


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Oct 31 2014 07:52. Posts 8648

so much feeding the trollthread =D

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whamm!   Albania. Oct 31 2014 09:12. Posts 11625

Maybe the cop posts here on LP and sees your trollbait replies lol


TalentedTom    Canada. Oct 31 2014 10:57. Posts 20070

I feel like a 2nd class citizen when I walk on to a basketball court with a bunch of black people

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

devon06atX   Canada. Oct 31 2014 11:38. Posts 5458


  On October 31 2014 06:52 bigredhoss wrote:
so much feeding the trollthread =D


Gnarly   United States. Oct 31 2014 13:13. Posts 1723

>completely destroy arguments left and right
>"hurr durr feed der trollbread!!!"

Is that all you got? Heck, this isn't even my final form.

Diversify or fossilize! 

Royal_Rumble   Germany. Oct 31 2014 13:53. Posts 1760


  On October 30 2014 10:05 Liquid`Drone wrote:
1: being proud of your heritage is silly regardless of where you hail from, you had no involvement in the matter. Minorities however have been encouraged to be proud of their heritage to counterbalance the shame they used to feel about it. You can argue that it's silly in the same way, but it's basically an empowerment strategy.

2: How on earth are whites being a global minority in any way relevant to white privilege in Europe or USA?

3: If you think privilege equates to getting a good paying job at a fortune 500 for just being white, you're just an idiot. Privilege in this regard means stuff like : not having a 10x likelihood of being stopped or harassed by police regardless of whether crime has been committed. (This, on average, builds distrust, which equates to being less likely to function in accordance with society's expectations. That is not necessarily a bad thing, especially not for individuals, but when comparing stuff like wealth or health of a demographic, it is. ) Privilege even means that you are expected to do well - which on average translates to doing well. A black guy in school might be expected to do his literary analysis on 2pac, white guy on Shakespeare. One of those builds a more valuable skill-set for the future than the other. Then there's the whole networking aspect, which is just enormous..

here's what my guess on what this all stems from. You come from a white, but lower class background. This essentially means that many of the privileges that exist for most white people don't exist for you. Perhaps you even dress and or talk trashy - which can make you become discriminated against in much the same way ethnic minorities are. (regardless of how they dress or talk) So it almost ends up feeling the opposite way for you, you become upset because you've never felt any of this white privilege you hear about. You don't have the network that many white people do. You're almost like a black guy with a tiny penis - much worse than being a white guy with a tiny penis - because you fail to live up to the expectations people and society have towards you.



Liquid Drone showed some real class here. I do not understand how he can be a respected contributor to this site, feeling that he is morally and intellectually superior to Gnarly and then insulting him in this way and making assumptions that have no basis besides Drone's pathetic attempts to mimic Freud.




money won is twice as sweet as money earned.  

devon06atX   Canada. Oct 31 2014 15:05. Posts 5458

Man... who on this site is a respected contributor besides daut? Nazgul... oh, remember when.. oh what's his name, the broker dude who ended up being a scumbag.. thorladen?

Yeah, we have two.

fucking no one. We're all clowns.

Gnarlys arguments are all over the place. The guy has intelligence, that's for sure. I'm more interested in his stock picks (and how they'll run in the next couple years) as opposed to this garbage. And it's total garbage. It's kind of weird seeing him post meaningful/sensical shit then watching him post idiocy like this. I have a theory that it's a shared account w/ that other tit (srsbob, wtfever he'll be next week).

Jump on drone all you want, he fucking destroyed that debate. Regardless of your freudian criticism.


Gnarly   United States. Oct 31 2014 15:32. Posts 1723

buy dollar short gold has been my pick for a couple of years now (though gold has moved considerably since)
going long anywhere in the water transport especially if they deal with exporting american energy unless they already went up like egle
im waiting for radioshack to go back down to .5 and try to get in
certain marijuana stocks ive been watching out for, but target prices weren't hit to get in
oil shouldn't be dropping too much now cause america and canada still need to profit
continue shorting the yen
i tried getting into cotton a couple weeks ago but it shot up too quickly before I could get the price I wanted
im interested in looking into cattle futures, cause some of the futures seem ripe for shorting
should've shorted the ruble long ago
watch for mexico's economy to improve, along with central america
though brazil is still probably going to be shit

>destroyed a debate
>by saying poverty creates crime
>but can't explain why even though white people outnumber black people in america in whole numbers for poverty, black people still commit more crime than any other group in america

Diversify or fossilize! 

 
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