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Everleaf Bans Players from United States After Homeland Security Seizes Funds
The US war against online poker rooms continues as the Everleaf Gaming Network is threatened with legal action.
The Everleaf Gaming Network today updated the terms and conditions across its poker rooms that prohibits any residents from the United States and France from signing up or playing on the network. An announcement is expected tomorrow that confirms its withdrawal from the US and French markets.
According to a representative from Minted Poker, one of the main skins on the network, the decision follows the closure of a US processor and interception of player funds.
“Several weeks ago when the network lost one of the US processors, some of the processed funds were held back by what is now clear as the Department of Homeland Security,” writes the representative. “They have now also issued a letter to [cease] and desist operations in the USA, under threat of legal enforcement against...
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source: http://pokerfuse.com/news/poker-room-...after-homeland-security-seizes-funds/ |
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Feb 09 2012 20:17. Posts 4080 | | |
id say that seize was more warranted on being lame enough to name your site everleaf |
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Spicy   United States. Feb 10 2012 02:19. Posts 1027 | | |
die howard
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whamm!   Albania. Feb 10 2012 03:34. Posts 11625 | | | |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 10 2012 04:39. Posts 8947 | | |
not such a bad thing as long as merge stays up
brings all there players to the merge network now that will increase mtt prize pools, as well as increase the amt of fish on the cashgame tables for you cg grinder |
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DooMeR   United States. Feb 10 2012 05:25. Posts 8564 | | |
fish arent gonna convert because of this to merge now. they are gonna be more and more hesitant |
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| | On February 10 2012 03:39 NeillyJQ wrote:
not such a bad thing as long as merge stays up
brings all there players to the merge network now that will increase mtt prize pools, as well as increase the amt of fish on the cashgame tables for you cg grinder |
you 93% sure merge isn't the next target? |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 10 2012 06:08. Posts 8947 | | |
93% wishing merge never gets targeted |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 10 2012 06:13. Posts 8947 | | |
but honestly, who knows. lets just get the legality rollllllin
btw, i hear there are some big stuff that might happen (positive) in congress in the next week or two w/ poker (well just ppa emails etc) - Bilat, keep us updated sir! |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 10 2012 06:32. Posts 8947 | | |
for the low amt of ppl that go onto those sites, the name of this thread is a litttttttttttttttle off :-) they has very low traffic from us |
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Hasty Pond   Cook Islands. Feb 10 2012 07:32. Posts 25 | | |
Neilly wtf
obv people of the land of the free should be shitpants'd right now, many assumed that they were satisfied with fucking over ftp/ps but that's clearly not the case. |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 10 2012 08:34. Posts 8947 | | |
trying not to panic over this hastypond, theres no need to go nuts over it.
we understand the fragility of playing any online poker from the usa, and understand the risks we are taking etc.
that being said, after going back and forth with david (hero ceo) multiple times, i'm very confident we are ok, and that if anything happens we would be reimbursed our funds.
hes a standup guy , with a pro team on the roster, including mig.com (lper) rekrul (lper) gavin griffin (badass mfer)
be water, go with the flow, hopefully we are ok.
its detriminatal in my life that hero stays open for atleast another 10 days, trust me, i've weighed this alot in my head
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^ that won't stop USA from seizing bank accounts. |
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whamm!   Albania. Feb 10 2012 12:03. Posts 11625 | | | |
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Garfed   Malta. Feb 10 2012 12:15. Posts 4818 | | |
whats the problem, just dont keep substanial amount of money there... 15-20bi max, u can reload if u bust |
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Agreed with Neilly, our money is safe on a poker site that has our poker player heros as pros. |
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Target-x17   Canada. Feb 10 2012 13:42. Posts 1027 | | |
erge... too lazy to do a few button clicking to take 1k off merge gonna own me |
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taco   Iceland. Feb 10 2012 14:33. Posts 1793 | | |
| | On February 10 2012 07:34 NeillyJQ wrote:
that being said, after going back and forth with david (hero ceo) multiple times, i'm very confident we are ok, and that if anything happens we would be reimbursed our funds. |
This is the type of disturbed thinking that gets you people into heaps of trouble.
You're very confident that you are OK and y'all will be? Are you kidding me?
Do you really believe that "Hero Poker" is making heaps enough money to have the money back every single US player's roll
immediately after the United States Department of Justice seizes their bank accounts; and when they issue massive fines for this?
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AndrewSong   United States. Feb 10 2012 17:34. Posts 2355 | | | |
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dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 10 2012 17:49. Posts 6374 | | |
93% sure neillys a methhead |
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devon06atX   Canada. Feb 10 2012 19:06. Posts 5462 | | |
| | On February 10 2012 07:34 NeillyJQ wrote:
hes a standup guy , with a pro team on the roster, including mig.com (lper) rekrul (lper) gavin griffin (badass mfer)
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Well guys, there you have it. No need to be alarmed, your money is safe. |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 10 2012 22:45. Posts 8947 | | |
im obviously being optimistic here, i have the same fears as everyone else that plays stateside.
100% truth is i feel a lil bit more secure on hero than any other skin, yet we all know its unsafe etc.
yes they can shutdown bank accts etc, they can do lots of stuff, and i can hope for the best, since worrying and whining it will only effect my brain in a negative fashion.
that being said, hero's been runnin strong like 10 months now, and im not gonna pull out of merge because America shutdown Everleaf, they ran and shutdown doyles room etc 2-3 months after stars/ftp.
i keep a working br on heroz and cashout once a month.
im going to clear out my bank accts and keep my monies in a safer place (ie. safe in bedroom) - thanks for that advice
if hero does go down......then i'd have to move out of country....The most important thing is people getting there wires (15th-20th) and checks from January before anything happens (if anything happens *optimism* and yeah, be smart, withdrawl that money from your bank acct immediately and put it somewhere safer.
understand and handle the fragility if you play from the states...im not saying ur money is safe at all, nor am i saying mine is, but im not gonna sit here worrying, emailing supports etc, when theres nothing to do other than be patient and hope for the best. just like a game of poker.
gl,
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 10 2012 22:50. Posts 8947 | | |
how much does a nice bolted down safe cost? anyone know?
where would one purchase such an item? |
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ggplz   Sweden. Feb 10 2012 23:08. Posts 16784 | | |
Instead of lightning money on fire by buying a safe why not repay some people? If you could afford one worthwhile you wouldn't have money to put in it anyways.
Theres def a huge risk of losing money on any site still allowing US players to play there and increasingly so as more sites suffer the same fate. Keep a bare minimum on there or do something else.
How can you honestly write some of the things you've written in this thread/site? Are you giving it the slightest bit of thought? I mean, you're consistently posting absolute bullshit like this of benefit to nobody and if you think you're a comedian or a some kind of master leveller you're just not. It's not funny.. it's delusional and sad. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 10 2012 23:36. Posts 34312 | | | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Feb 11 2012 02:00. Posts 8649 | | |
neilly's posts are one of my biggest guilty pleasures |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 11 2012 02:19. Posts 8947 | | |
are you an idiot?
i've paid 20k of my 30k in debts in my canada trip last winter, jlost88 can confirm this.
(lost account)
i haven't had any money in my pockets in a long period of time sir, all i do is pay off debts from my degenerate 2008-2009 sprees. also,most of my "debts" are from stakes from sunday mtt's where there was absolutely no time limit on how long i "had" to pay it back. 20k paid on a stake in 3 months in canada is solid and im almost out of debt, so instead of slandering ppl about things you have no fucking idea about, why don't you stop being a trolling idiot. |
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sTrAtO   Mexico. Feb 11 2012 02:41. Posts 5882 | | |
| | On February 10 2012 22:36 Baalim wrote:
he still owes money? ffs |
| | On February 11 2012 01:19 NeillyJQ wrote:
are you an idiot?
i've paid 20k of my 30k in debts in my canada trip last winter, jlost88 can confirm this.
(lost account)
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 11 2012 04:34. Posts 34312 | | |
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lololololol hahaha best image u have posted ever |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 11 2012 05:12. Posts 8947 | | |
LOLOL great image =) i understand the $ isn't currently considered mine that I have, and will have the rest paid off when i decide to leave country or when i hit a nice mtt ;-)
epic image, can def laugh at myself :-) |
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NeillyJQ   United States. Feb 11 2012 05:13. Posts 8947 | | |
n ya, strato, thanks, ur right, i was kinda defensive about it, my wording sucked there
appreciate the help |
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TimDawg   United States. Feb 11 2012 05:14. Posts 10197 | | |
LOOOOOOL
this literally just made my past week much much better. ty byrnesam |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Feb 11 2012 05:17. Posts 15163 | | |
| | On February 11 2012 01:00 bigredhoss wrote:
neilly's posts are one of my biggest guilty pleasures |
+1, Neilly is one of the most entertaining posters on the internet  |
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EvilSky   Czech Republic. Feb 11 2012 07:34. Posts 8918 | | |
lol that was great sam, Im literally crying here |
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waga   United Kingdom. Feb 11 2012 16:52. Posts 2375 | | |
rofl byrnesam delivers , as usual |
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julep   Australia. Feb 11 2012 17:28. Posts 1274 | | | |
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LikeASet   United States. Feb 11 2012 21:32. Posts 2113 | | |
Why did the U.S. gov fuk with everleaf or whatever? Gonna go apeshit if they touch Merge. |
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Bejamin1   Canada. Feb 12 2012 10:43. Posts 7042 | | |
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so much win |
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