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longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 04:41. Posts 4472
i sent my stats to a student so i figured what evs can post them here

i dont have large samples on the sites u play on, and this is 5max and 200bb deep atleast against 50% of the regs there buy in deep, but might be interested for some atleast

after talking to the student and from playing on stars the last days is what i noticed is that (probably) the most of you need to be opening way more buttons

from playing on stars a couple of days i saw guys on 2/4 opening more in SB 6handed then on the BU and were still big winners, i mean wtf?

open SB's against weak players but as aejones said one time was that against a very though reg BvB he is on the border if he even wanna open ATo, and that says alot about alot of you robots opening 45% in the SB no matter what

dont open 50% in the SB against every1, and dont raise 40% of BU's lol, go atleast over 50% from the BU and maybe 25% SB against though regs and against some nitregs u can go 80% probably (same goes for nitregs in blinds open 100% BU)


anyways, here are my stats, the first stats from reports are from the last 4 months as ive done some adjustments with my 4betting/folding to 3bets and raise first in ranges, the hudpop up are frmo all SH hands this year (filtered to more then 2 players, aka 3player+)

and remember its also 5max so the games plays alittle more aggro

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and ye i know that some of the regs i battle on a daily basis are ninjareading this blog, but i dont cares, gonna eat ya anyways! blinking smiley face

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 Last edit: 04/12/2011 22:28

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 05:05. Posts 4472

but as always, postflop decisions are most important, but this just shows you how much u can get away with preflop, from calling 3bets and stealing pots against the right villain, from 3 betting the right villain etcetc


and alot of the regs i battle here are swedish maniacs aswell playing much higher then myself so its not only weak regs

 Last edit: 04/12/2011 05:07

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 05:09. Posts 4472

and also, if you want higher winrates and are good at poker

START DEEP TABLES

i got multiple orgasms from playing the deep tables on stars, there is sooooooooooooooooooooo much value to be gain from a little weaker reg who cant think on his own as soon as it gets 150bb deep or more, or with antes etc the nit masstablers will bleed to death

so if ur a thinking player, START DEEP TABLES

and u will fucking double ur winrate

 Last edit: 04/12/2011 05:10

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Dec 04 2011 05:34. Posts 5304

im wondering, do you play looser 3bet stats on deeper tables or tighter.

i know alot of people play tighter because they are only 3betting when they want to get it in 250bb's.

im guessing though that you have quite a merged range and know which opponents you can 3bet fold light value hands vs?

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longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 05:41. Posts 4472

deep there is nothing wrong for example to 4bet fold a hand like AJ AQ or TT JJ or even QQ or what ever against a guy 250bb deep who is calling a shit ton of 4bets and only 5betting supertight
if they for example 3bet alot of suited middleish/lowish connectedish cards and weak suited aces just 4bet them for value and let them call due to being deep and then play well postflop

and if they 4bet alot then just start 3bet/5bet/call 6bet light for value to get it in just like a normal 3bet/4bet situation 100bb (maybe AJ and 88 pre is a little bit to light but u get the point)

 Last edit: 04/12/2011 05:42

Silver_nz   New Zealand. Dec 04 2011 06:01. Posts 5647

noice.


longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 06:03. Posts 4472

at 100bb u need obv to fold a little more to 3bets then i am doing at 200bb (IP)

oop i play ~ the same just that i 4bet more merged against some opponents deep, and can set mine against supernits oop deep aswell


Silver_nz   New Zealand. Dec 04 2011 06:28. Posts 5647

hmm if they are supernits wont they fold their overpairs, so a setmine is not good? only case you get it in is set vs overset.

"full ring problems"


longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 06:44. Posts 4472

not sure if trolling

a nit that waits for KK AA all day long, do you think they are gonna fold once they get it against a spewtard like myself?


longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 06:46. Posts 4472

they got the hellmuth mentality "ohhhh you just wait you aggressive maniac until i get a hand and i will show you"

but they dont understand that we actually know that they are nits so we would never try to bluff them when they tell us a story that they have a strong hand

im not being fully serious but its almost that easy playing against the tight 18/14 masstablers

 Last edit: 04/12/2011 06:48

EvilSky    Czech Republic. Dec 04 2011 06:47. Posts 8915

Im not sure what to do with these stats but that bottom line sure is pretty :D


bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Dec 04 2011 07:46. Posts 8648

are those winnings in dollars or that swedish currency?

Truck-Crash Life 

Eluflop   Estonia. Dec 04 2011 08:01. Posts 3835

nice post man , and also i like the deep play stuff you said


casinocasino   Canada. Dec 04 2011 08:27. Posts 3343

one of the best blog posts, tons of information to disect.


the cleaner   Germany. Dec 04 2011 08:38. Posts 3014

nice results dude. checked my stats for this year, i only open about 32pct on the button. what a nit .

there are no facts only interpretations 

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 08:41. Posts 4472


  On December 04 2011 07:38 the cleaner wrote:
nice results dude. checked my stats for this year, i only open about 32pct on the button. what a nit .



perfect spot to start opening 60% then, ppl wont 3bet you more from the blinds in 1 year


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Dec 04 2011 09:08. Posts 6374

impressive sb winrate, whats ur secret??

ban baal 

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 09:12. Posts 4472

not sure, probably calling in good spots when bad regs/fish is in the blinds instead of insta 3betting like a robot

and also picking good 3betting spots i guess

not sure ^^

(checked lifetime where i had -6bb/100 from SB over 90k hands,prolly ran well from smallblind these last 4 months + been playing alittle better)

have no idea what is normal from the blinds

cant push enough on how much u can get away with by 3betting nitty regs with their static ranges, they just dont adjust, and if they do they are bad at it and its easy to be one step ahead and own them

 Last edit: 04/12/2011 09:16

lebowski   Greece. Dec 04 2011 09:18. Posts 9205


  On December 04 2011 07:41 longple wrote:
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perfect spot to start opening 60% then, ppl wont 3bet you more from the blinds in 1 year

you think 60%+ btn is also good with 100bbs? It seems to me that it's tough to really do a lot of things postflop and preflop I see people 3betting like 15% from the blinds and jamming over 4bets pretty wide, dick swinging style. Ofc if nobody pays attention you can open even more but that's not usually the case I find =(

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 09:21. Posts 4472

i know alot of good swedish regs opening 65% as a standard at 100bb without being out of line at all with 4betting/calling to much

(with good i mean crush up to 25/50$ on eusites)


rememp   Canada. Dec 04 2011 09:28. Posts 480


  On December 04 2011 04:41 longple wrote:
deep there is nothing wrong for example to 4bet fold a hand like AJ AQ or TT JJ or even QQ or what ever against a guy 250bb deep who is calling a shit ton of 4bets and only 5betting supertight
if they for example 3bet alot of suited middleish/lowish connectedish cards and weak suited aces just 4bet them for value and let them call due to being deep and then play well postflop

and if they 4bet alot then just start 3bet/5bet/call 6bet light for value to get it in just like a normal 3bet/4bet situation 100bb (maybe AJ and 88 pre is a little bit to light but u get the point)



Longple you say this like it's really easy to do... It's really hard, you think it's easy = why you're so sick.

Also how the fucking shit do you have a positive win rate in the small blind? WTF!

You must honestly have one of the best sb win rates in the whole fucking world. My mind is blown


morph1   Sierra Leone. Dec 04 2011 09:45. Posts 2352

well your sb steal should be lower if you are playing deep
but generaly if people are defending less then ~40% from bb it's +EV to open every SB even if you are going to ck-fold every flop ... obv this is in vacum and you will adjust to the game flow

your stats look sick.. def something different

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edzwoo   United States. Dec 04 2011 11:20. Posts 5911

You're a generous man longple. Next time you should make another thread like this except in your spoiler put a giant trollface.jpg


longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 11:33. Posts 4472

hehe i dont mind, if i would play a good player knowing this i trust in my ways of leveling them/adjusting to their knowledge about me


longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 11:34. Posts 4472

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Highcard   Canada. Dec 04 2011 12:27. Posts 5428

nice post man, I was laughing about your 3bet call range because I figured a lot of people were going to forget you are playing 200bb+++ and then hopefully I can lol at my tables from some readers.

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 12:54. Posts 4472

ye dont fold only 40% to 3bets from CO/MP/BU against blind 3bets guys it takes villain reads and atleast 150bb deep


NewbSaibot   United States. Dec 04 2011 16:13. Posts 4944

Fold all BB's

Become millionaire

bye now 

sTrAtO   Mexico. Dec 04 2011 18:01. Posts 5882


  On December 04 2011 15:13 NewbSaibot wrote:
Fold all BB's

Become millionaire



???

-Karla:Mira, tu película! -Yo: cuál? -Karla: Big Fish! jaja 

Drakk   Canada. Dec 04 2011 18:02. Posts 1199

Expect the worst, hope for the best 

Stroggoz   New Zealand. Dec 04 2011 18:24. Posts 5304

interesting, i know alot of regs that play tighter than me and crush, and there are also a ton of regs that play much looser and crush as well. I guess the tighter regs lose blinds preflop but crush ranges postflop. i was thinking you would want your range to be as strong as possible post flop, without being exploited preflop, while at the same time trying to exploit poeple preflop as much as possible

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Fayth    Canada. Dec 04 2011 18:29. Posts 10085

I'd suggest you take that off, and most likely just show it to people that actually asks you

sure you're gonna keep beating the games, but this probably won't ever help you out

Im not sure what to do tomorrow when I see her, should I shake her hand?? -Floofy 

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 18:52. Posts 4472


  On December 04 2011 17:29 Fayth wrote:
I'd suggest you take that off, and most likely just show it to people that actually asks you

sure you're gonna keep beating the games, but this probably won't ever help you out



ur probably right, will take it down,, most lp'rs already seen it by now


SpasticInk   Sweden. Dec 04 2011 19:35. Posts 6298


  On December 04 2011 07:41 longple wrote:
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perfect spot to start opening 60% then, ppl wont 3bet you more from the blinds in 1 year


make sure you checked when folded to you, because it's pretty different to open 60 % when folded to and 32 % overall


SpasticInk   Sweden. Dec 04 2011 19:36. Posts 6298

i mean 32 % could mean you open like 50 % when folded to


casinocasino   Canada. Dec 04 2011 19:44. Posts 3343

chuck norris of poker sends his opponents stats of himself


the cleaner   Germany. Dec 04 2011 21:15. Posts 3014


  On December 04 2011 18:36 SpasticInk wrote:
i mean 32 % could mean you open like 50 % when folded to



just checked it's 40.5% on button unopened. thanks for the tip didn't know that filter.

there are no facts only interpretations 

Twisted    Netherlands. Dec 04 2011 21:21. Posts 10422

Yeah it's nice to brag about results and stuff and put your stuff online because of the egoboost it gives but eventually you're only hurting yourself by posting all this personal stuff on a blog.

Posting non-standard hands should be enough to get your ego going .


longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 21:25. Posts 4472

i think im respected enough on lp by now, enough for my ego atleast, i just try to help struggeling players since i saw that 70% of the 2/4 3/6 regs on stars played pretty poorly

but i can stop posting analysis of my hands and put out all my secrets/information of my game if u guys think its just for bragging

 Last edit: 04/12/2011 21:26

AndrewSong    United States. Dec 04 2011 21:58. Posts 2355

LOL longple. I thought you were cool but you proved yourself to be another wussy. You should ignore all these jealous fools and put the screen shot back up. I didn't get to see it


NewbSaibot   United States. Dec 04 2011 22:08. Posts 4944


  On December 04 2011 20:58 AndrewSong wrote:
LOL longple. I thought you were cool but you proved yourself to be another wussy. You should ignore all these jealous fools and put the screen shot back up. I didn't get to see it



He makes all his money on the button, and loses the most in the BB.

bye now 

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 22:26. Posts 4472

yeye w/e its back up


Twisted    Netherlands. Dec 04 2011 22:34. Posts 10422


  On December 04 2011 20:25 longple wrote:
i think im respected enough on lp by now, enough for my ego atleast, i just try to help struggeling players since i saw that 70% of the 2/4 3/6 regs on stars played pretty poorly



Why would you want to change that? If you want to help certain individuals (like Stroggoz or whoever else from LP you find at the tables), just PM them the blogpost instead of putting it out for the world to see. That way you still help them but you keep your own stuff to yourself.

It's ok to accept the fact for yourself that it's mostly for bragging purposes because otherwise (besides the money) we don't get a lot of validation/good feedback for our efforts. Helping others and posting hand advice and shit is something you do because you get satisfaction out of the reactions. It's very natural to want some confirmation and you can be proud of your results. I'm not saying it's a negative thing but you have to be careful with the information you put up. Lots of scumbags online. You just become a target to get scammed or hacked and stuff by showing off too much.

And trust me I've been there (hence the green star lol).

 Last edit: 04/12/2011 22:41

YoMeR   United States. Dec 04 2011 22:38. Posts 12435

man you're a beast.

monster life

eZ Life. 

longple    Sweden. Dec 04 2011 23:16. Posts 4472

im close to busto tho :/


SuFF   Poland. Dec 04 2011 23:25. Posts 447

how come? ;o


longple    Sweden. Dec 05 2011 00:59. Posts 4472

too many big livegames runbads, and to many superfailed nosebleedsshots online + 2 months of loseing while haveing lots of expences

(im superaggro when it comes to shots and BRM)

might need a stake, or go down in stakes, will see

 Last edit: 05/12/2011 01:06

waga   United Kingdom. Dec 05 2011 01:16. Posts 2375

swedes gonna swede


Stroggoz   New Zealand. Dec 05 2011 01:35. Posts 5304

I think you're right twisted, i just played someone HU and i think they may have been an lper. i just deleted all my recent HH's. Not going to post anymore hands.

One of 3 non decent human beings on a site of 5 people with between 2-3 decent human beingsLast edit: 05/12/2011 01:35

impact69   Mexico. Dec 05 2011 01:50. Posts 307

can someone post the link when u wrote about leaving stars because of your bad run?

i found it quite inspiring

 Last edit: 05/12/2011 02:05

Highcard   Canada. Dec 05 2011 02:22. Posts 5428

At first I thought twisted was sort of talking in a 'jealous' tone, I don't think you are, just was the tone? idk, but yes the truth is posting lots of $ sets you up for getting scammed/attempt of hacking. As for posting hands/thoughts, that doesn't in any way tie into that and is purely subjective to who you are. TBH I doubt it effects Longple's winrate much and if anything helps a few people make more $ to move up stakes and then Longple will have more future potential players, as small as that is of a % likely-hood I think it has a +net effect with money upswinging through stakes by helping out a little.

As for stroggoz, you HHs and talk would not have made your session go poorly, tbh it should give you more action. You say you want to get better/play better people and posting HHs, talking, has to be more +ev than starting a HU slightly behind against a very small % of villains and should make you critically think your starting/static plays.

-------
Any reg would have longple's "converged" stats by know anyways and gameflow/tendencies would be way more important

I have learned from poker that being at the table is not a grind, the grind is living and poker is how I pass the time 

longple    Sweden. Dec 05 2011 03:41. Posts 4472


  On December 05 2011 00:50 impact69 wrote:
can someone post the link when u wrote about leaving stars because of your bad run?

i found it quite inspiring



http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/890165/Should_i_give_up_.html


yea well im a very naive person in general, thats just how i am as a person,i trust ppl, i trust ppl with money, etc have faith in the good in ppl and if i can help i mostly do, thats how ive been raised and thats the type of person i want to be

and these hands are from the swedish site, its impossible to hack or scamm or what ever, and the players i play against already know my stats since we have played 50k hands togehter, and they probably know by now that im a big winner so i dont care

i dont wanna be a huge ego nit that never gives out information about myself to earn more $

my goal is to get to 200/400$ basically (atleast be able to play 50/100$ games when they run etc etc and be a big winner in 25/50) and what happends now is pretty irrelevant for me, thats also why i take such crazy shots and bust 80% of my roll at times, i just want to earn as much skill about the game as possible, and by posting hands and results and stats and thought process sure it boosts my ego to the point of me feeling better about myself and keeps me want to improve more when i know i have ppl who look up to me

it also get a good disciussion, and as an active LP'r i want to help every1 here, especially as a coach and a greenstar, and again i dont care if i give out information about myself and then in the future play all the highstakes LP players knowing 3x as much about me then i know about them, thats still something i need to learn to adjust to and that is the type of player i WANT and NEED to beat in the end to achive my goal as a pokerplayer,, i just look view it as another good challange for me

but if ppl think its stupid i can stop for sure, im not doing free coaching and posting my thoughts about poker/writing big fucking ass posts about what i think ppls leaks are and how i got good at poker and help others to do the same just to be bragging then your very wrong, sure it makes me feel better about myself to help others, but thats the person i am irl, and thats the person i want to be online aswell on a small community site like LP, i almost view alot of you as my friends in some way



edit: and also if i can help ppl get up to highstakes, that just means more players to play against, and more games for me, and more practice against other good thinking players

 Last edit: 05/12/2011 03:46

Fujikura   United States. Dec 05 2011 06:47. Posts 1795

Fille, FWIW, I've never thought you posted this stuff as like an ego thing. You're a lot like me, and like to help others. I just don't do mine in a public forum :D There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I don't think anybody here is going to be hating on you for doing it either. That being said, you're a good person, and I believe in karma, it'll pay off for you in the long run. You just aren't really an ego-driven person from my experiences knowing you in both BW, and now poker.

aka SouL)Z(Isadie and SouL)P(Fujikura 

lebowski   Greece. Dec 05 2011 09:04. Posts 9205

"COME AT ME BRO" self encouraging, noob helping badassery. What's not to like? I am a fan =D

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

Fujikura   United States. Dec 05 2011 09:08. Posts 1795

^ I think he planned his blog so my 1500th and ur 6600th post would come in too.... what a fucking sicko

aka SouL)Z(Isadie and SouL)P(Fujikura 

SpasticInk   Sweden. Dec 05 2011 09:31. Posts 6298

I don't care whatever the underlying motives are. I think its great that you give out so much information and your HH are pretty much one of the most interesting things on this site (since most people just post standard cooler hands nonstop). Also it's fun to follow your progress.

Big thumbs up.


AndrewSong    United States. Dec 05 2011 10:55. Posts 2355

Lol at u guys for thinking u can own some1 just by having big wall of txt that reads #%*#@# I only look at the damn thing just to feel smart when in reality i don't know shit about what I'm reading.

Only thing I got is to look twice when u raise flop, go all the way if I'm calling turn and that ur green dollars are fake because ur $ are actually worth pennies LOL

I prefer brag graphs for future reference


whamm!   Albania. Dec 05 2011 11:01. Posts 11625


  On December 04 2011 08:08 dogmeat wrote:
impressive sb winrate, whats ur secret??



he quit playing 24 tables lol


thrust123   France. Dec 06 2011 05:08. Posts 346


  On December 04 2011 21:08 NewbSaibot wrote:
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He makes all his money on the button, and loses the most in the BB.


if he folds every BB he'd lose more!


eestwood   United Kingdom. Dec 06 2011 16:33. Posts 698


  On December 05 2011 08:31 SpasticInk wrote:
I don't care whatever the underlying motives are. I think its great that you give out so much information and your HH are pretty much one of the most interesting things on this site (since most people just post standard cooler hands nonstop). Also it's fun to follow your progress.

Big thumbs up.

can we all ball 

 



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