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Baalim   Mexico. Dec 03 2010 23:27. Posts 34246


  On December 03 2010 22:17 Maynard! wrote:
Ya I remember you were a complete anti EV graph poster.... You finally ran bad once in your poker career eh? A good # of pros we see on PTR who appear to be good are likely just top 0.1% luck boxes. It HAS to happen to someone.



are you crazy? all my poker career has been a struggle against luck except for a rush in 600nl where i won at 7ptbb/100 for over 100k hands, im guessing since i posted screen shots of that you believe i am lucky or something, but here the screen shot i took is from 400k hands, so its not like "you finally ran bad" lol what the fuck.


However i am have a "no whinning" philosophy and i am very ashamed of myself for blogging this, i would delete it but ill let it stay just a reminder of my weakness.

Its also due to the online pro thing if i dont get it it would be morally devastating it would feel like im drowning on quicksand, somebody throws a rope and right when im about to grab it they troll me and pull it away.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

whamm!   Albania. Dec 03 2010 23:54. Posts 11625


  On December 03 2010 21:22 byrnesam wrote:
Raszi and Baal both in Team Pokerstars





OMG bynesam i laughed like a crazy person when i saw this
LLLLLLLLLOOOAODHSOPDIHPOIJOLAJDLDOOOOOOOOOOOL
thank you thank you

 Last edit: 03/12/2010 23:58

Maynard!   United States. Dec 04 2010 00:02. Posts 4453


  On December 03 2010 22:27 Baal wrote:
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are you crazy? all my poker career has been a struggle against luck except for a rush in 600nl where i won at 7ptbb/100 for over 100k hands, im guessing since i posted screen shots of that you believe i am lucky or something, but here the screen shot i took is from 400k hands, so its not like "you finally ran bad" lol what the fuck.


However i am have a "no whinning" philosophy and i am very ashamed of myself for blogging this, i would delete it but ill let it stay just a reminder of my weakness.

Its also due to the online pro thing if i dont get it it would be morally devastating it would feel like im drowning on quicksand, somebody throws a rope and right when im about to grab it they troll me and pull it away.


Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else but as far as I remember you ranted and raved about how EV is completely meaningless.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Carthac   United States. Dec 04 2010 00:09. Posts 1343


  On December 03 2010 21:55 Baal wrote:
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who is the other online pro? Raszi, Khan and Elky are TEAM pro.

Well nano obv doesnt win every single hand he is just the luckiest player ive seen.


I dont think khan is sponsored anymore, and elky doesnt come on very much


Newblish   Canada. Dec 04 2010 00:16. Posts 560

Havent read anything other than the the OP but - Your screen shot looks similar to what would represent my graph in the last 5 months which is: running 36 BI's below EV(of course not accounting for a plethora of coolers too). I've put practically no volume in as of late due to lack of motivation. All the power to people who can still come out on top and rise above this. It's always difficult not to want to let people know about this(if some remember how i used to do it), so i can sympathize with baal on this post.


Baalim   Mexico. Dec 04 2010 00:29. Posts 34246


  On December 03 2010 23:02 Maynard! wrote:
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Maybe I'm confusing you with someone else but as far as I remember you ranted and raved about how EV is completely meaningless.



i dont think i ever said that, you are probably confusing me lol how would i reach high stakes thinking like that, unless i meant it in the pure realistic form where EV isnt in your cashier.

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro Online 

nlloser60   . Dec 04 2010 01:11. Posts 304

is it yearly graph? if yes, that's depressing


Fudyann   Netherlands. Dec 04 2010 01:56. Posts 704

LOL miscommunication here.

EV is not meaningless in poker - but EV that hem shows is a meaningless stat because there is so much more luck in poker than it can show, that it's almost guaranteed to be way off.


nolan   Ireland. Dec 04 2010 02:19. Posts 6205


On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalid 

the cleaner   Germany. Dec 04 2010 03:17. Posts 3014

nvm

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 04/12/2010 03:19

Loco   Canada. Dec 04 2010 04:25. Posts 20963

rofl nolan

fuck I should just sell some of my Pokemon cards, if no one stakes that is what I will have to do - lostaccount 

lebowski   Greece. Dec 04 2010 06:03. Posts 9205

lol candela 009

new shit has come to light... a-and... shit! man... 

kingpowa   France. Dec 04 2010 06:12. Posts 1525

nice nolan !
isn't Exhilirate your "worst friend" : fuck no ?!?

sorry for shitty english. 

nolan   Ireland. Dec 04 2010 09:58. Posts 6205

fuck no indeed

On September 08 2008 10:07 Baal wrote: my head is a gyroscope, your argument is invalidLast edit: 04/12/2010 09:59

inde   Germany. Dec 04 2010 10:10. Posts 1298


  On December 03 2010 23:29 Baal wrote:
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i dont think i ever said that, you are probably confusing me lol how would i reach high stakes thinking like that, unless i meant it in the pure realistic form where EV isnt in your cashier.



are you talking about what Tom (I think) said about how EV graphs are meaningless b/c they don't really show if you're getting unlucky vs just playing bad b/c being coolered has a whole other effect than being sucked out on in these graphs?


SpasticInk   Sweden. Dec 04 2010 10:28. Posts 6298

EV graphs are not meaningless, but they are a small part of the equation in how good or bad you run.

It's just there are so much more than that.

Anyway it's pretty much the only 'objective' measure there are.


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Dec 04 2010 12:35. Posts 10896

lol 40 buyin below in ev 400k hands
sick deal
...


tomson    Poland. Dec 04 2010 13:04. Posts 1982

I have to agree with HeRoS)eNGagE. Being down nearly 44 buy-ins on a 383k hand sample is unlucky, but it's not difficult to find far worse examples (a pretty spectacular one from a single PLO session: http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii77/iggymcfly/recordbreaker.jpg ).

It's not worth to invest energy in dwelling on your luck (unless something constructive comes out of it or it's the only way to make you feel better). And I'm not saying that, because I'm annoyed by whining or I feel like criticizing you, but because I believe everyone is REALLY better off when they start thinking that way.

  On December 03 2010 21:10 Stygg wrote:
sooner or later, pretty much everyone will run worse than they perhaps thought was possible. thats a cliche nowadays, but only cause it's true.


Right, but look on the bright side - 'everyone will run better than they thought was possible' is an equally true statement. :D (assuming a person is objective when it comes to their visualization of luck)

Peace of mind cant be bought.Last edit: 04/12/2010 13:07

tloapc   Pitcairn. Dec 04 2010 13:47. Posts 2591

The probability of someone watching you is proportional to the stupidity of your action. 

locoo   Peru. Dec 04 2010 15:32. Posts 4561

nano confirmed for riggedness, hes good also ofc, but man he knows how to win the flips and the 40/60's

bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte bitte 

 
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