Starcraft II Beta - Page 59

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* TERRAN o Banshee + The health has been increased from 130 to 140. o Missile Turret + The damage has been changed from 7+7 armored to 12. o Thor + Anti-Air damage has been decreased from 10+6 light to 8+4 light. + Anti-Air attack now deals splash damage in a 0.5 radius. * PROTOSS o High Templar + The Psi Storm radius has been decreased from 2 to 1.5. o Photon Cannon + Life and Shield values have been increased from 125/125 to 150/150. * ZERG o Broodlord + Damage has been decreased from 25 to 20. o Roach + Organic Carapace no longer grants bonus regeneration to unburrowed roaches. o Spine Crawler + Damage has been increased from 20+10 armored to 25+5 armored. + Attack period decreased from 2.2 to 1.6. o Spore Crawler + The cost has been decreased from 100 to 75. Bug Fixes * Fixed an issue in which players would desync when matched against others with certain CPUs.

so i already have a lot of trouble vs terrans that go mass air..........more so than any other ground strat, and what does blizzard do? they go and buff banshees the most overpowered unit in the game already, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, i mean cannons do nothing vs them, you needstalkers+blink its a gd joke

u can expect a lot more stuff like that daut

i cant believe they removed unburrowed regen on roaches that upgrade is totally useless now

its a joke, banshees are so overpowerd as is, toss cant do anything, if toss goes mass phoenix they just make viking/banshee with reactors and guess what you cant outproduce them, now they buffed them, its fucking impossible its a joke they just runa round killing all your sentries and stray pylons so you have no vision of anything, if you make a colossus or immortal its gonna get sniped its so stupid.

all i do is try to blink around picking them off but that obviously fails, its at the point where if t doesnt go banshees he sucks

cmon daut, just make phoenix, when a protoss switch to phoenix after scouting my port they become obsolete, or close to it

the only real way to enjoy the beta is to play all races, and play mostly the ones that seem to be the best after every patch -_-

On March 30 2010 12:30 JonnyCosMo wrote: Have an extra beta key (not an account, an actual KEY), selling for $300 on ps or ftp. PM if interested.

i'll buy only if its 3000$

On March 30 2010 16:32 Fayth wrote: cmon daut, just make phoenix, when a protoss switch to phoenix after scouting my port they become obsolete, or close to it

phoenix = auto die for toss

terran can make way more air than p can and its more useful against ground. if p goes air then terran goes MASS air. if p goes ground then t can pick a timing to switch back to ground and run p over with marauders because the army is too stalker heavy and not enough immortals/colossi/sentry in there

i have tried 3 strats:
1. incorporating phoenix into my mix of units = fail
2. going mass air with phoenix/void ray and obs = fail
3. going stalker with blink along with my army = fail less hard

but all 3 fail nonetheless

cannons are also worthless cause banshee range is unreal and they can just pick off cannons as they please. i think making banshee range 4 or 5 would fix a lot of imbalance there.

but i also think that something should be buffed in terran ground in the midgame. the early game ground vs ground is fair i think, the midgame toss has a pretty sizeable edge though and im not sure exactly what would fix that

i suppose making one phoenix to fake and force some vikings and then going back to stalkers with blink is ok but that comes at the cost of 5 stalkers gas wise, so i am not sure

maybe i will hallucinate a phoenix or two and fake it but i think the terran would be smart enough to realize what i was doing since they are in my base constantly harassing

Spades.spades playing toss, went 3-2 in placement........ now im 1st in my silver division.. how do i move up to gold/plat?

win games and do generally well for a while with a healthy win% probably. blizz havent released any formulae or hints about how their system works, but in the last patch they did make adjustments to it so moving between leagues can happen more easily (before that it was possibly flawed/buggy, lots of people were having trouble ever moving up no matter how well they did)

daut phoenix owns any banshee strats for me so idk what ur talking about

On March 30 2010 16:40 Loco wrote: the only real way to enjoy the beta is to play 2v2 double random

fixed

Poll: Which MU do you enjoy the most
(Vote): PvT / TvP
(Vote): PvZ / ZvP
(Vote): TvZ / ZvT
(Vote): ZvZ
(Vote): TvT
(Vote): PvP
(Vote): no beta

i only play zerg but zvp is fun imo

There's one thing Daut, and those are Void Rays. If the T goes 2 port air, all he can produce on the ground are marauders. Phoenix aren't terrible vs Vikings either, you just have to micro a lot more. However, Void Rays rape the SHIT out of Vikings, and as an added bonus, they make quick work of Marauders as well. Try it! You'll need an expo and 2 ports though of course and cannon up from the excess minerals (or hidden expand, or both).

For the sole reason of Void Rays raping Marauders I tried to incorporate them into vs any MMM sort of tactic, but it kinda failed so far I simply have no resources for sufficient ground forces then. They're really good when the T goes air though.

I agree with ya though, wtf is up with the banshee health buff, nerf it's vs light damage first kthx.

mez/fayth, are you guys doing a few banshee harass til they make phoenix then quit or are you 2-3 starport massing air and making even more air when you see them make air? cause thats the problem, not guys who make a few banshees to harass with their ground armies, then yea a phoenix dispels it and gets them back to making ground

the guys ive had trouble vs dont make any ground if they dont see you making a lot of stalkers. if you some phoenix they just make lots and lots of banshees/vikings and eventually a few ravens and p really cant keep up i dont think. if they see a lot of stalkers then they switch to marauder but anything else they just keep adding more and more air

I would use banshees more if they weren't so fickle about being controlled. They're like an aerial reaver..

if they go banshees/hellions u gotta pressure their wall in as u can do tons of damage - they NEED a bunker or its over right there. i make 5 stalkers for this (last 2 warped) then expand to high yield mins at same time.

when you get 1-2 phoenix and they still going air during that window its really tough for them to beat your unit composition or to expand if they dont transition to mms and when u get blink and outresoruce them and they still going air its ez game. alot tougher b4 the stalker buff.

btw, planatory fortress needs to be slightly neffed! 12 stalkers cant kill it alone with just scvs repairing

Who was complaining about storm being overpowered that they had to nerf it? its pretty weak as it is -.-