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TimDawg    United States. Feb 21 2007 00:07. Posts 10197


  On February 20 2007 22:53 newbie.cjb wrote:
lol i smell scam

he's not a scammer; he's been on vent for ages

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Bigbobm   United States. Feb 21 2007 00:14. Posts 5512


  On February 20 2007 23:07 TimDawg wrote:
Show nested quote +

he's not a scammer; he's been on vent for ages


ill ditto that

(as if dawgs word isnt good enough for you)

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ketLast edit: 21/02/2007 10:06

FrinkX   United States. Feb 21 2007 00:14. Posts 7562


  On February 20 2007 22:51 JohnnyBologna wrote:
hmmmmmm 7ptbb is kinda high... can anyone calculate how many buy ins is that over 100k hands?



1 ptbb = two big blinds

its calculated in ptbb/100 hands

100,000/100 = 1000
7 * $4 = $28

1000 * $28 = $28,000
someone please give me a cookie

bitch on a pension suck my dongLast edit: 21/02/2007 00:16

Baalim   Mexico. Feb 21 2007 01:06. Posts 34304

I will take the 7ptbb/100 bet... as Ket said ONLY if somebody acts and a middle man, otherwise i wont.


i advice you ALL not to take any bets unless there is a middle man

Ex-PokerStars Team Pro OnlineLast edit: 21/02/2007 01:15

[vital]Myth    United States. Feb 21 2007 01:18. Posts 12159

you're laying 2:1 on the winrate bet? if so, i'll take it for $100

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

[vital]Myth    United States. Feb 21 2007 01:19. Posts 12159

also, middleman plz

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

[vital]Myth    United States. Feb 21 2007 01:19. Posts 12159

Eh, I can go a few more orbits in life, before taxes blind me out - PoorUser 

mfcmurray   United States. Feb 21 2007 01:20. Posts 1385

dudes, sooon2b is a trustworthy guy, If he doesnt pay, I'll drive to turningstone and whoop that ass, u guys can do the same .

Bong Hits for Jesus 

Ket    United Kingdom. Feb 21 2007 01:42. Posts 8665

there is no reasonable reason to believe hes premeditated a scam, i just want insurance against the possibility he'll realise hes not gonna win the bet after playing like 60k hands, and decide to do a houdini because it turns out he made more bets than he can afford to pay. we're only human. im gonna have to insist on a middleman holding money from both sides.


sooon2b   United States. Feb 21 2007 02:20. Posts 774

Ket, thats why I am capping at 1.5k. Everyone knows I am a winner at 1/2, and will obv make some decent amount of money. Even if I run at 5ptbb(which is quite easy), ill make 20k. With 4k rakeback, 20k profit, and current roll, you think 1.5k is alot to me? I am doing this to keep me motivated and playing my A game. Pulling a houdini would be somewhat impossible considering I am good friends with most of these guys and talk to them daily.

I would not mind an escrow once my roll is around 15k or so. Its a comfort issue for me.

If having an escrowe is that big of a deal, then lets just call off the prop bet? I am doing it for you guys.

Also, I want to make sure everyone has this straight. By 2-1 odds, that means if you bet 100$, and I lose, I owe you 100. If I succeed, you owe me $200. If I have this wrong, sorry :-. The people on vent were aware of this, but its late and just want to make sure everyone else is.

Lastly, I will be updating my blog in 10k hand increments with hand histories, graphs, and pt screenshots.

http://sooon2b.liquidpoker.net/ 

JonnyCosMo   United States. Feb 21 2007 02:22. Posts 7292

Ok I want a piece of it. $100 on ur ptbb/100hands thing at 2:1.

Everyone needs to see that you are king of the castle - PoorUser 

milkman   United States. Feb 21 2007 03:20. Posts 5719

geez lol no one else wants a peice of the busto bet?

Its hard to make a easy buck legally, its impossible to make a easy buck morally. 

sooon2b   United States. Feb 21 2007 03:27. Posts 774


  On February 21 2007 02:20 im.topher wrote:
geez lol no one else wants a peice of the busto bet?



no, because its a completely retarded bet.

http://sooon2b.liquidpoker.net/ 

JohnnyBologna   United States. Feb 21 2007 03:30. Posts 1401

your roll is only 15k yet you say 1.5k is nothing to you??

Just do whats right 

Ket    United Kingdom. Feb 21 2007 03:37. Posts 8665

OHHHH i thought u were laying us 2:1. haha this makes a lot more sense.
is there any stipulation on how many tables ur gonna play at once? i think this is very doable like 1-2tabling and finding good tables but almost impossible if you 8-12table


Joe   Czech Republic. Feb 21 2007 04:01. Posts 5987

yea 7ptbb/100 is def. doable at 1/2NL but it will be quite hard because he also needs to play 100,000 hands in 2 months, so basically he needs to be at least 4 tabling and then he needs to play like 5 hours a day on average.

i would take a 1:1 prop bet up to $500 if u want soon2b.

and PS: i kind of like it that u will be off of ventrilo for 2 months, since ur sending a page constantly and playing loud music while i play a session is kinda annoying

there is a light at the end of the tunnel... (but sometimes the tunnel is long and deep as hell) 

Baalim   Mexico. Feb 21 2007 05:28. Posts 34304

you have 15k why do you freaking care to use a middle man?

Anyone who takes his word for a bet is a retard, simply because there is no real reason not to use a middle man, everybody is trustworthy.... until they owe $6,000 in lost propbets.

You dont know how many people are going to take this bet u dont know how much he could loose if he doesnt (rofl he wont) archieve his goal.



Ex-PokerStars Team Pro OnlineLast edit: 21/02/2007 05:32

Karma    Australia. Feb 21 2007 06:23. Posts 3538

Actually I don't think it's too impossible, initially I thought "LOL NO" but late last year I played ~70k hands at stars 200nl in the space of just over a month (As a bit of a similar self challenge to cram hands after a big cashout) with a 4.24ptbb winrate and I was 9-12 tabling the whole time so I think it's doable if you play less tables and are better than me. But obviously I arrogantly assume you're worse than me so I'll bet like $200 or whatever you'll let me bet lol . I guess you can't really take more than 1 or 2 hundred from each person if your total limit is $1.5k
Damn you Ket trying to hog all the propbet action

Baal a middle man is always preferable in prob bets, means you pay upfront so no one can be gay and not pay up. I'm pretty sure he's saying he'll take prop bets up to a $1.5k TOTAL, if he's taking it up to $1.5k per person he won't have a roll to play with if he's using a middle man which would be retarded obviously

fish mentalityLast edit: 21/02/2007 06:41

sooon2b   United States. Feb 21 2007 10:14. Posts 774

I dont have 15k right now. I have closer to 7k. I am sorry but its a psychological thing at the moment. ONCE I have 15k, I wont mind a middle man.

I will be playing between 6 and 8 tables at all times. I have a dual monitor setup, and full tilt tables are not nearly as fast as stars. I can play optimally 8 tabling. I will be using game selection as well.

Also, its 1.5k Prop Bets TOTAL. Not 1.5k a person.

You would be laying me 2-1. So, if its a $100 bet, if I lose, I owe you $100, if I win you owe $200. Keep that in mind so you can chop your bet in half.

Like I said, I wont mind a middle man once my roll is slightly larger. I am a bit of a bankroll nit. Its a psychological thing.

Lastly, do you guys want to take action with other people? I have some friends that would like to bet on me(dont know why, lol).

I want you guys to know I am just doing this to force myself to play my A game at all times, and in general, not be a retard at the tables. I am hoping doing this will improve me as a player in many different ways(tilt, actual playing ability, better at table selection, etc)

http://sooon2b.liquidpoker.net/ 

Bigbobm   United States. Feb 21 2007 10:15. Posts 5512


  On February 21 2007 02:37 Ket wrote:
OHHHH i thought u were laying us 2:1. haha this makes a lot more sense.
is there any stipulation on how many tables ur gonna play at once? i think this is very doable like 1-2tabling and finding good tables but almost impossible if you 8-12table



i dont think someone can realistically play 100k hands in 2 months only 2 tabling.

Its time to stop thinking like a bitch and think smart like a poker player - ket 

 
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