I hate poker. - Page 5

On December 28 2006 15:56 Floofy wrote: i think this is comparable to saying when a 14 year old prostitute herself, its her choice to do so and its correct to exploit her. No that person isnt.... wise enough to take her own decisions. i think same goes for degenerates. But wtf can we do about it. Nothing

The main thing society can do is educate... but not that classroom bullshit. life skills.

On December 28 2006 10:45 Maynard! wrote: He will turn around and punch his kid in the face or his wife in the gut.

or both at the same time if shes pregnant.

this thread is really gay

On December 28 2006 15:56 Floofy wrote: i think this is comparable to saying when a 14 year old prostitute herself, its her choice to do so and its correct to exploit her. No that person isnt.... wise enough to take her own decisions. i think same goes for degenerates. But wtf can we do about it. Nothing

When a man lives by his own and pays his own rent he has to be responsible, he doesnt have to be wise... but he doesnt have to put himself into a shithole either. Gambling involves luck, no matter how good he is, he KNOWS that going broke is a possibility...

When he has a family, its not even about him anymore, even if he doesnt care risking going broke, he shouldnt gamble just because he may put his family through hell.

how can you compare his situation to a 14 year old girl?

FYI, underage prostituation is associated with poverty in almost everycase... families who cant support their kids financially or otherwise (fathers who gamble their rent money away?...maybe)

and like I said if the OP is worried about those kind of guys, either he is one of them or he is a victim who gets slaped by his gambiling father.

There is a reason why gambling requires a certain age...

Let me summerize this. I am 22, it is my right to decide I want to gamble... I am financially in trouble. Since I do not have a family I can risk going broke... it is my decision. This one isnt so bad.

Now if I have a family and same situation .. personally I dont care about going broke, it will be wrong for me to gamble because I know I can go broke and put my family in a bad situation.
I will get a shitjob that pays...

the guy who is risking his rent money is choosing the easy way out of his financial shithole... if he is alone thats fine with me.
If he has a family well I hope those things that I mentioned in my original post really happen to him.

this discussion is endless and pointless

lets get rich, and let the suckers go broke

donate half your winnings to charity

On December 28 2006 13:39 Day[9] wrote: poker killed my father and raped my mother!

ROFL

i think we should fine pokerstars infinity billion dollars

According to the National Council on Problem Gambling

"2 million (1%) of U.S. adults are estimated to meet criteria for pathological gambling in a given year. Another 4-8 million (2-3%) would be considered problem gamblers; that is, they do not meet the full diagnostic criteria for pathological gambling, but meet one of more of the criteria and are experiencing problems due to their gambling behavior. Research also indicates that most adults who choose to gamble are able to do responsibly."

http://www.ncpgambling.org/about_problem/about_problem_faq.asp

Those are statistics I can live with.

On December 28 2006 15:56 Floofy wrote: i think this is comparable to saying when a 14 year old prostitute herself, its her choice to do so and its correct to exploit her. No that person isnt.... wise enough to take her own decisions. i think same goes for degenerates. But wtf can we do about it. Nothing

thats bull. all the 14 yr old prostitutes ive been with totally ripped me off


sneaky trixxy little hobbitses

gollum gollum

On December 28 2006 15:47 VanDerMeyde wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2006 13:15 iamalex wrote: It's their choice to play poker. It's their choice to risk their rent money. It's their choice to gamble away their life savings. A lot of people are perfectly responsible with their money and also play poker. It's not my fault if some idiot loses his rent money.

THAT EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD MY FATHER
if we dont do it , someone else WILL

I agree that by playing poker and making money from other people we might not be exactly Jesus but we are not the devil either. I mean we might no get the best best place in heaven but I don't think we would be on the fast lane to hell. Also I'm more of a warm place type of guy

On December 28 2006 17:19 vegable wrote: According to the National Council on Problem Gambling "2 million (1%) of U.S. adults are estimated to meet criteria for pathological gambling in a given year. Another 4-8 million (2-3%) would be considered problem gamblers; that is, they do not meet the full diagnostic criteria for pathological gambling, but meet one of more of the criteria and are experiencing problems due to their gambling behavior. Research also indicates that most adults who choose to gamble are able to do responsibly." http://www.ncpgambling.org/about_problem/about_problem_faq.asp Those are statistics I can live with.

I think that's a pretty big number. I think gambling as a concept is bad and self-destructive for human nature. There is not exactly anything constructive coming from it. It probably causes more problem than good.

Zero-sum games like poker probably creates more problems than other forms of gambling (like lottery).

I'm to egoistic to stop playing tough, to greedy or whatever. So I guess it's a bit hypocritical in a way to think about poker as morally wrong but still play it. Anyway we cant deny the negative sides of poker, and the fact that you earn from other's misfortune.

On December 28 2006 18:21 Logiabs~ wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2006 15:47 VanDerMeyde wrote:   On December 28 2006 13:15 iamalex wrote: It's their choice to play poker. It's their choice to risk their rent money. It's their choice to gamble away their life savings. A lot of people are perfectly responsible with their money and also play poker. It's not my fault if some idiot loses his rent money. THAT EXACTLY WHAT I TOLD MY FATHER if we dont do it , someone else WILL

your father is probably more tolerant of possible immoral activities tho... you know...


with all the coke dealing

On December 28 2006 18:25 capaneo wrote: I agree that by playing poker and making money from other people we might not be exactly Jesus but we are not the devil either. I mean we might no get the best best place in heaven but I don't think we would be on the fast lane to hell. Also I'm more of a warm place type of guy

You sucker,
you belive in heaven and hell?

Wake the fuck up?
We don't live in a happy loving and caring world, with unlimited fairy floss.

It's a cruel world, if you want to succeed in life, you have to beat the other guy who also wants the same.
Poker is still a game of skill, even though a lot of luck is invovlved in short term variance. Just like any other competitive game or sport to obtain and edge, we put the time and effort into it to acheive this.

Let's suppose we reverse the situation that someone said earlier about how he took some guy sitting at 600NL with his whole bankroll. The degen gambler has been going in allin over the top preflop everytime time the hero has been raising, let's say this has happened x10, and the hero has folded everytime.
Same thing happens but this time hero holds AA and degen gambler is caught bluffing with 72o, and they're both allin to the fate of the cards. Degen gambler flops a fullhouse off the flop and wins. Hero says "man, ive been so patient waiting for a good hand to bust you, and you fucking draw out on me, i deserve my money back, because i should have won statistically, and as i have put way much more time and effort into this game than you".

Will the degen gambler feel sorry for the hero and chuck him his winning back?
Fuck no, he's gonna take it and be fucking happy about it.
So why shouldn't the hero take his money and be fucking happy about it?

I'm not going to even address how u described poker players as "the scum of the earth" cause that's just plain retarded.

In the end, most of us are selfish mother fuckers, and in order to make money, you have to take it from someone else, that's the way the world goes round. Poker is just another way of doing so.

Whenever I have this stupid argument with ignorant people about my being a poker player I simply tell them one thing.

If you could 100% guarantee me that by me not sitting down that that person will not ruin their life, they will not sit down and waste the money that they so sorely need...I won't sit down. If them being such a degenerate is some how in connection with me sitting at the table, I won't do it.

I'm a poker player, I'm not heartless. Don't treat me as if I am such you ignorant, judgmental little twit. Don't blame me for somebody else's problems. I have no power to stop it and if could stop them I would. But we don't live in a world of rainbow kisses and hippy hugs. I am not contributing to the problem, I am not a part of the problem. Their problems are their own and I have no power to stop it. I wish I did, with all my heart.

That's pretty much end of discussion. I really think anybody with a different view point is completely delusional.

On December 28 2006 15:56 Floofy wrote: i think this is comparable to saying when a 14 year old prostitute herself, its her choice to do so and its correct to exploit her. No that person isnt.... wise enough to take her own decisions. i think same goes for degenerates. But wtf can we do about it. Nothing

it always comes back to 14 year olds with you doesnt it floofy?
j/k, you know i <3 you

I think its not floofy ,
i think there are plenty of underaged whores who had to do this b
because maybe they couldnt fidn a job, or they are not qualified for most of these
so their only out is being that plus many of these have already a baby, so you need money to feed him

tough work

poker players are the scum of the earth? every single major corporation out there has maximizing EV for themselves as its goal, even donating to charity is done to improve their image so that they will have more profits in the future. that is how our society is run.

On December 28 2006 14:06 tilted fish wrote: LMAO is this topic serious? I can not stop laughin...but getting serious and my thoughts on this: That guy who gambles his rent money and puts himself into financial trouble by gambling... deserves to loose every $ and I hope he goes broke in a slow painful way... Its his choice, i just hope if he punches his kid, the kid stick a knife up his ass when he is sleep.

this is absolutely the best way to look at it
knives up the ass for everyone

On December 28 2006 16:24 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On December 28 2006 10:45 Maynard! wrote: He will turn around and punch his kid in the face or his wife in the gut. or both at the same time if shes pregnant. this thread is really gay

this made me giggle