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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 20 2006 20:48. Posts 34250 | | |
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 20 2006 20:45. Posts 34250 | | |
Im not sure how am i suppoused to play these nut flush on the flop, since betting will sacare everything but trips and even then if they dont see odds for the board pairing they fold.
So when i get that i usually slowplay it hoping that another club falls and a lower flush might go willing to bet for his K or Q.
o__o help. |
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Daut   United States. Feb 20 2006 20:50. Posts 8955 | | |
it's .02/.05
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| On February 20 2006 19:45 Baal wrote:
Im not sure how am i suppoused to play these nut flush on the flop, since betting will sacare everything but trips and even then if they dont see odds for the board pairing they fold.
So when i get that i usually slowplay it hoping that another club falls and a lower flush might go willing to bet for his K or Q.
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okay look, excluding bluffs, nobody will have made much except possibly a smaller flush or trips or TPTK so bet on flop to see where you're at look at these 5 player checkfests are garbage. bet so you find out where you are and slowplaying does not follow that you'll make more money but follows that you'll probably lose more money. if someone's going to put in their money they're going to have "something" at these stakes so slowplaying it stupidly on flopANDturn doesn't make you more money necessarily |
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Rekrul   United States. Feb 20 2006 20:52. Posts 3338 | | |
lets do a little thinking here
if you slow play and a club hits maybe someone with a queen will pay you a little, so you make more by not betting if no one has anything EXCEPT the queen of clubs (or the jack and the queen falls)
if someone has a set or a flush already you can make a lot of money by betting the flop, whereas if you slow play and the scare card (another club) hits before you put money in the pot, you have lost a lot of potential money
bet your hands, and bet them well. no slow play. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 20 2006 21:01. Posts 34250 | | |
ok, so 95% of the times that is a hand that wont profit much |
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obviously rekrul is giving serious good advice, but think about it also in this way: pot odds. why would anyone want to risk a lot of money into a very small pot? making the pot bigger and making players commit themselves will maximize your wins much more than chekc ehck echkehckehckhekchekchekchkehc |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Feb 20 2006 21:06. Posts 20070 | | |
| On February 20 2006 19:50 BigBalls wrote:
pot flop pot turn fold river |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Feb 20 2006 21:07. Posts 20070 | | |
you only make as much money as you bet - by checking you make $0, but if your happy with that then by all means check away |
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StimRice   United States. Feb 20 2006 21:16. Posts 314 | | |
i always bet here, any lower flush will pay you his stack.. bet hard ( Pot or close to it ) if you don't get called it was a longshot you were going to win anything on this hand anyway... |
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JizzleSmitts   United States. Feb 20 2006 21:53. Posts 1217 | | |
if a low flush pays his stack in a 6 way unraised without K high flush he is a moron. |
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Daut   United States. Feb 20 2006 21:56. Posts 8955 | | |
its .02/.05 NL on stars, do you really think anyone isnt a moron there |
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 20 2006 22:25. Posts 34250 | | |
| On February 20 2006 20:56 BigBalls wrote:
its .02/.05 NL on stars, do you really think anyone isnt a moron there |
indeed ive seen people get their stacks with only a T or J of clubs and 4 club cards on the table.
BigBalls, its not that i dont appreciate your advices, but i kinda hate when you say "bah its 02/05.. do x", i know its penny tables, but i dont want to get maximium BB/100h you can get on these limits, i want to learn how to play, at micro going all-in preflop with AA isnt such a terrible move, but if i get that habit my AAs will never pay off on higher limits.
Thats what i want want when i ask for advice, learning how to properly play, rather than how to take advantage of uber fishes.
But i appreciate that you and rekrul take the time to reply |
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PoorUser   United States. Feb 20 2006 22:26. Posts 7471 | | |
bet out the flop, espcially 6 handed |
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Daut   United States. Feb 20 2006 22:36. Posts 8955 | | |
the only thing i change about my advice towards lower limits is that instead of betting in normal increments you bet the pot or more every time and you never bluff.
replace pot with 2/3 and you can apply most advice i give to higher limits |
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RiKD   United States. Feb 20 2006 23:52. Posts 8538 | | |
funny that harrison57 is still grinding out those penny tables
was a regular when i played there quite a bit ago |
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Baalim   Mexico. Feb 21 2006 00:29. Posts 34250 | | |
| On February 20 2006 21:36 BigBalls wrote:
the only thing i change about my advice towards lower limits is that instead of betting in normal increments you bet the pot or more every time and you never bluff.
replace pot with 2/3 and you can apply most advice i give to higher limits |
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[vital]Myth   United States. Feb 21 2006 10:30. Posts 12159 | | |
anyone with only the 5c for a 5-high FD is willing to get their stack in on the flop at this level.
do what bigballs says and read what rekrul said to understand why |
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Floofy   Canada. Feb 21 2006 11:19. Posts 8708 | | |
Ok the reason why this level is easy is because these guys can't fold. So bet good hands and check/fold bad hands. Not the other way around please.
Well don,t put a too big bets on flop....around half pot...any pair, any club draw, any ace will call you. These guys's biggest nightmare is to be a bluffed even if never being bluffed cost them a lot of money. |
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Muhweli   Finland. Feb 21 2006 18:09. Posts 10663 | | |
bet bet bet the flop, at those stakes, you get paid off anyway ;D Someone with a trey of clubs will call ya in hopes of catching a might fluuushhh. They probably reason that you wouldn't be betting with made flush anyway but slowplaying it. Betting the pure nuts is often good since it's possible someone else made a good hand too. By betting you make lower flush draws pay and potentially will stack made lower flush, set or two pair or god knows on these stakes, maybe even top pair. |
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Muhweli   Finland. Feb 21 2006 18:10. Posts 10663 | | |
And giving them two freecards is a mistake beyond all reason. |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 14 2014 21:25. Posts 8648 | | |
i dont think you should slowplay these flop at 5nl |
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Oly   United Kingdom. Apr 15 2014 03:53. Posts 3585 | | |
Haha someone got out the baby pictures |
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spets1   Australia. Apr 15 2014 07:08. Posts 2179 | | |
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bigredhoss   Cook Islands. Apr 15 2014 12:19. Posts 8648 | | |
baal's progress is looking promising |
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GoldRush   United States. Apr 15 2014 13:19. Posts 1025 | | |
sick progress, keep it up. |
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Daut   United States. Apr 15 2014 14:53. Posts 8955 | | |
lol.
is .02/.05 even that soft anymore? i get the impression .08/.16 isnt. curious how far down the games have gotten tough. |
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NewbSaibot   United States. Apr 15 2014 17:35. Posts 4943 | | |
I kinda want to fuck Baal now |
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YoMeR   United States. Apr 15 2014 18:52. Posts 12435 | | |
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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 17 2014 01:22. Posts 34250 | | |
holy shit... Ive come a long way
I dont get Spets post o_oa |
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spets1   Australia. Apr 17 2014 04:58. Posts 2179 | | |
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devon06atX   Canada. Apr 17 2014 18:22. Posts 5458 | | |
| On April 15 2014 13:53 Daut wrote:
lol.
is .02/.05 even that soft anymore? i get the impression .08/.16 isnt. curious how far down the games have gotten tough. |
5nl is still easy as hell. Can easily win 10-15 buyins a day if you put in some hours. 10nl is like the old nl25. Actually, I'd say slightly tougher. People squeeze and 3b light and play back at you from time to time. There's a lot of regs though, you basically try to make money from the massive idiots. Same with nl25. Strangely, nl25 is softer than nl16... imo. I haven't played nl50 consistently for a long time, can't help you there - but I assume it's the same increase in competition as the others.
It's as if every skill level jumped up a couple limits - regarding the regs anyway.
| On April 15 2014 16:35 NewbSaibot wrote:
I kinda want to fuck Baal now |
I LOL'd. hard. hahahaha.
edit - I didn't even see who the poster was but after I looked at a couple of those pics, I thought 'I bet spets made this'.. scrolled up, bam. Nailed it. |
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Baalim   Mexico. Apr 30 2014 07:41. Posts 34250 | | |
Sometimes I get frustrated at people for not getting stuff that seem extremely obvious to me now, I tend to say things like "Put him in a range and play accordingly against said range" and this helps me realize that it does take a while before somebody has absorbed all the very basic things before he can even fathom the concept of playing properly against ranges. |
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