- Cris Cyborg vastly expressed her desire to face the inaugural UFC Women's featherweight champion Germaine de Randamie at this event. However, de Randamie indicated that she would not face Cyborg due to her repeated transgressions with PEDs (despite Cyborg only failing a test in 2011). The UFC decided to strip her of the title on June 19 due to her refusal to defend it and then booked Cyborg against promotional newcomer and current Invicta FC featherweight champion Megan Anderson for the vacant title. In turn, Anderson pulled out on June 27 due to personal reasons and was replaced by current Invicta FC bantamweight champion Tonya Evinger on June 27.
- A featherweight bout between former UFC Featherweight Championship challengers Ricardo Lamas and Chan Sung Jung was originally in the works for UFC on Fox: Weidman vs. Gastelum. However on May 12, the bout was confirmed for this event. The pairing was originally slated to take place in July 2013 at UFC 162, but Jung was pulled from the bout in favor of a title fight against then-champion Jose Aldo at UFC 163. Subsequently, Jung pulled out of the fight in early June due to a severe knee injury. He was replaced by Jason Knight on June 6.
- Doo Ho Choi was expected to face Andre Fili at the event, but pulled out on June 14 due to injury. Artem Lobov revealed that he was offered the fight, but declined in order to help Conor McGregor prepare for his boxing match against Floyd Mayweather Jr. on June 16.
- A welterweight bout between former UFC Welterweight Champion Robbie Lawler and former UFC Lightweight Championship challenger Donald Cerrone was originally booked for UFC 205. However, Lawler pulled out to take a little more time after recovering from his previous fight at UFC 201. The fight was then rescheduled to take place on July 8, 2017 at UFC 213. Reports began to circulate on June 28 that Cerrone had sustained a minor injury and that the pairing would be left intact, but shifted to this event. UFC President Dana White confirmed later that Cerrone in fact had a staph infection and a pulled groin, and while the plan was to keep the bout, it wouldn't happen at this event. In the end, the bout was confirmed on July 2 for UFC 214.
- On June 28, the California State Athletic Commission (CSAC) denied former UFC Bantamweight Champion Renan Barao a bout at that weight class against Aljamain Sterling, due to his previous weight issues at UFC 177, in Sacramento, California. The bout will still happen, but at a catchweight of 140 pounds. CSAC Executive Director Andy Foster said that if Barao makes weight with no issues, the CSAC will revisit the possibility of allowing him at 135 lbs in the future.
- Claudio Puelles was expected to face Sage Northcutt, but pulled out on June 19 due to a knee injury. He was replaced by John Makdessi. In turn, the fight was canceled on July 14 due to both fighters being injured.
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 09 2017 22:44. Posts 13039
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First impression of the match-ups:
• Jones > Cormier
• Woodley > Maia
• Justino > Evinger
• Knight > Lamas
• Lawler vs. Cerrone (dunno)
• Oezdemir > Manuwa
• Barao > Sterling
• Moicano > Ortega
• Northcutt > Makdessi
• Fili > TBD
• Shelton vs. Brooks (dunno)
• Albu > Curran
• Dober > Burkman
• Smoliakov vs. Wieczorek (dunno)
For a fighting sport, Jones seems to be painted in a way where he's like this monster lol
I think half of NFL and NBA players does what he does every week?
Lawler beat Condit and Rory... if Lawler beats Cerrone he will become the biggest anti-hero for me.
Cormier v Jones will be interesting. Cormier is such a nightmare wet blanket ... Jones needs to land a good crack
I wonder who will get injured this time Jones or Cormier
Excluding the hit and run, which was extremely disgusting, Jones has not done anything "spectacular" in terms of "badness". Cormier kind of sounds pathetic trying to catch whatever straw is thrown to him. And he will lose as he did the last time, to go back to the place where he deserves as the gatekeeper of the division. Honestly, the guy has been saying shit about all of his opponents as they are some sort of a fact - even Rumble, who was the nicest person on the UFC. He seems like a bad version of Plato.
This card is sick though, too bad the UFC are cunts for striping down the women featherweight champ of her title, considering there are serious concerns when it comes to Cyborg. Couldn't she just ask for a 100% full test on her during the whole period in order to fight her?
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 10 2017 23:52. Posts 13039
On July 10 2017 21:15 Spitfiree wrote:
This card is sick though, too bad the UFC are cunts for striping down the women featherweight champ of her title, considering there are serious concerns when it comes to Cyborg. Couldn't she just ask for a 100% full test on her during the whole period in order to fight her?
Germaine de Randamie is a pussy, which is why they stripped her.
GDR knew that if she won the title, she would 100% have to defend it against Cyborg at a later date. What's more, there were only 3 people in the division: GDR, Holm, and Cyborg. Holm recently moved back down to 135 and won her fight.
Regarding testing: The UFC made the fight with GDR and Cyborg, but GDR refused due to Cyborg's one failed test in 2011 (6 years ago). Cyborg has been tested by USADA (currently the best drug testing organization) for multiple years, and she has passed all of those tests, and still gets tested by USADA because USADA tests year-round, even if you aren't preparing for a fight.
Not to mention, GDR fouled Holly Holm twice in their title fight and was never deducted a point for doing the same thing (hitting after the round ended), and she almost knocked Holm out the second time she did it. Right after the fight was over, GDR said she was willing to give Holm an immediate rematch, but Holm said no and moved back down to 135 pounds. Then, when the Cyborg fight was brought up, GDR claimed she was injured and would need time to recover, which led to several months of her going inactive from the MMA world, only to return months later and give an excuse as to why she doesn't want to fight Cyborg.
Essentially, GDR knew what she was getting into when she fought Holm for the belt, then she didn't want to fight the #1 ranked female in her division when she was expected to and came up with an excuse. GDR is also a part-time fighter and has a full-time job as a police officer in her country, which makes it easy for her to only fight 1 time per year (at most).
Yeah GDR was terrified of Cyborg, what a lame excuse she gave, that she was a cheater years ago bla bla. Nice card btw, two boring cards before this so we have to wait = (
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 15 2017 04:02. Posts 13039
With UFC 214 just two weeks away, neither Sage Northcutt nor John Makdessi will compete on the card. The UFC confirmed on Friday that both men suffered undisclosed injuries, so the bout was been canceled.
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 16 2017 00:26. Posts 13039
this weekend a bjj fight between roger gracie and marcus 'buchecha' almeida took place in brazil. they are most likely the 2 goats of bjj (imo above rickson because they are better athletes without a doubt). pretty sick if you ask me not everyday you see 2 goats of a sport facing one another
1 fight in 2 years in a half, where Jones looked less than stellar. DC should win some rounds, also new rules about eye pokes, might leave Jones -1 point down. Should be close,imo.
Biggest value on the card I think is Renan Barao. He is just the worst match up possible for already overrated Sterling. Can't believe that he is a dog in this fight.
I dunno JBJ's last fight was terrible and he's been inactive after that. Not saying DC was amazing in his last two fights but he's clearly 10x more motivated and the more active fighter. USADA being extra watchful now also doesn't help, he's super ripped yeah but he's trying to make weight sucking in 20 pounds or more too. I won't be surprised if he gets his ass kicked this time, not saying it's going to happen. Most of all Chael Sonnen picked JBJ to win ....bet the house and your mother on Cormier lol
Chael is legendary if you look up all his picks, Against Conor on all his wins then picks him on his only loss in Nate 1 only to pick against him against vs Nate 2 and Eddie A, even picked Masvidal over Maia, Aldo over Holloway and Kelvin over Weidman recently lmao
Jones also feels like he's out of his mind a bit. Luke Thomas mostly defends him when his name comes up then he decides to say this lol
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deathstar United States. Jul 27 2017 03:06. Posts 111
I'm rooting for Cormier. He's so short for 205 lbs. I hope he wins. And he's a sweet heart.
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iakim322 United States. Jul 27 2017 06:17. Posts 1335
Going to be on Barao and Oezdemir. Like those lines the best as long as Barao doesn't look like crap on the scales
Evinger is going to get absolutely murdered. Swarm and overpower style except she's a '35'er who's going to try to over power a '55 man. Might seem dumb but I think only Holly Holm's style and frame could beat Cyborg
Probably small homer wager on Maia just because Woodley is the worst. Seems like one of the worst possible matchups for Maia though
Probably not even going to wager on the main but I feel some real anticipation either way for the first time in awhile. Seems like it's been awhile since we've had a big fight like this that had genuine heat behind it. Not like some contrived bullshit like Chiesa/Lee etc. And I mean, these guys' rivalry is up there in terms of real animosity. Skill level of the fight is also tops too. That Jon Jones who showed up for the press conference is a scary human
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 27 2017 06:21. Posts 13039
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Minsk United States. Jul 27 2017 19:25. Posts 1558
Jones ML @ 1.42
Jones ITD @ 3.16
Manuwa ML @ 1.59
Burkman ML @ 4.09
Thats it so far. Have a few more I'm considering..
Think people overestimate DC's capabilities, he got demolished by JBJ in the first fight, and later barely won vs Gustafsson, a Gustafsson that seemed quite less motivated.
USADA being extra watchful now also doesn't help, he's super ripped yeah but he's trying to make weight sucking in 20 pounds or more too. I
You do realize that DC fought at 207 pounds his previous fight, right? And the UFC closed its eyes. DC has always had a hard time cutting weight, he does come back great on the very next day though.
On July 28 2017 11:49 ERASA wrote:
"got demolished by Jones" no
DC was previously never taken down in his career, JBJ manhandled him like a child. DC holds pride in his bronze olympics medal, yet he didn't manage to take down JBJ efficiently even once, every time he managed to do so JBJ just got on his feet. I'm not saying he posed no threat to JBJ, but he did get demolished.
On July 28 2017 11:49 ERASA wrote:
"Gustafsson looked quite less motivated" no
I might be wrong, it just seemed that way to me, something was off with Gustafsson, DC most likely got to him mentally before the fight.
On July 28 2017 11:49 ERASA wrote:
"UFC closed its eyes" no, its a comission thing
Pretty sure that if the UFC tells him to go and weight again without using the towel trick, he will have to do so. They will obviously never do that for clear reasons, they did close their eyes though. Anyway that was not the point, the point was he is having trouble cutting weight.
All depends on what version of JBJ comes out, if OSP JBJ comes he will get mauled and Sea-level Cained for 5 rounds. Cormier vs Jones is just the most motivated DC can get. If prime JBJ comes out DC is in for a long night, that's where my doubts lie. Inactivity and USADA and all the partying will take it's toll at some point, ring rust is real.
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K40Cheddar United States. Jul 28 2017 17:37. Posts 2202
+165 maia seem like decent value? Hes been on a tear.
I guess Cormier has good value at these odds, he's been active and proving himself and we don't know how Jon is going to show up
first fight was closer than people think, Cormier lost the championship rounds, im sure he will be way better prepared for this fight
too bad Anthony Johnson is a pussy mentally, he would whoop both of these guys
Dont listen to anything I say
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 28 2017 20:51. Posts 13039
Daniel Cormier (205) vs. Jon Jones (204.5) – for light heavyweight title
Tyron Woodley (170) vs. Demian Maia (170) – for welterweight title
Tonya Evinger (145) vs. Cristiane Justino (145) – for vacant women’s featherweight title
Donald Cerrone (170) vs. Robbie Lawler (170)
Jimi Manuwa (204.5) vs. Volkan Oezdemir (205.5)
Jason Knight (145.5) vs. Ricardo Lamas (145.5)
Renan Barao (140) vs. Aljamain Sterling (139.5)
Renato Moicano (146) vs. Brian Ortega (146)
Andre Fili (145) vs. Calvin Kattar (145.5)
Alexandra Albu (115) vs. Kailin Curran (115)
Jarred Brooks (126) vs. Eric Shelton (126)
Josh Burkman (155.5) vs. Drew Dober (155)
On July 28 2017 16:37 K40Cheddar wrote:
+165 maia seem like decent value? Hes been on a tear.
I think its a terrible bet, he barely beat Masvidal and this is a worse matchup, he is not going to be able to take Woodley down
Maia can get Woodley down. Will he get him down tomorrow? No idea.
If I was gonna bet Maia, I'd only bet his submission line at +315.
lol what does that even mean? a banana peel can take Woodley down, but what I'm saying is that its unlikely that Maia manages to take Woodley down on their fight, I think under 20% odds
I'm telling you guys, Jones has something in his mind other than this fight. Luke and other reporters are puzzled with all the hate, even his own camp doesn't know why he's pissed with media
I got Cormier and Maia upsetting. Maia can get to him and eat a couple shots and unless he gets KO'ed completely with once punch where he deosn't need to come close to him and win, he's fookd
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 29 2017 06:12. Posts 13039
On July 28 2017 16:37 K40Cheddar wrote:
+165 maia seem like decent value? Hes been on a tear.
I think its a terrible bet, he barely beat Masvidal and this is a worse matchup, he is not going to be able to take Woodley down
Maia can get Woodley down. Will he get him down tomorrow? No idea.
If I was gonna bet Maia, I'd only bet his submission line at +315.
lol what does that even mean? a banana peel can take Woodley down, but what I'm saying is that its unlikely that Maia manages to take Woodley down on their fight, I think under 20% odds
"A banana peel can take Woodley down." What does that even mean?
Woodley is in the Top 3 for best take down defense in the UFC, alongside Renan Barao and Jon Jones.
Woodley trains wrestling with Ben Askren, and Ben is the best MMA wrestler of all-time. Maia can get Woodley down, but he needs to not do the same "clinch + wrap leg around opponent against the cage" to get the TD against the cage, because he'll waste energy and not get Woodley down.
All of the offensive and defensive wrestling strategies from both guys were covered by BJJ Scout (I posted them in this thread), and I agree with all of them.
I was mocking your post that said that he can.. but he is unlikely to do so, which is exactly what I meant with "he cant", because if we are going hardcore on the realm of possibilities a banana peel can take down Woodley.
BJJ Scout is either Ben Askren or Ben Askrens mom lol.
If this fight goes to the ground its going to be on Maias back, and that will be interesting, can he pull some sick reversals and shit? I dont know, its not like Maia is eager to pull guard even on people with worse grappling and GnP than Woodley
On July 29 2017 03:59 whamm! wrote:
I'm telling you guys, Jones has something in his mind other than this fight. Luke and other reporters are puzzled with all the hate, even his own camp doesn't know why he's pissed with media
You mean a guy that did retarded shit and got his flaws exposed on a regular basis the past 3 years hates the media? I wonder why
Also, Baal have you ever stepped on a banana peel? It's nothing like the cartoons man...
Woodley looks like a tough match up to Maia, but He has shown some questionable fight IQ in the past.
Adding to that the fact that he tends to back himself against the cage in all of his fights it will not be out of the ordinary for Maia to drag him down somehow. And Maia's ground game is so dominant that he does not mind to pull guard and work from there to reverse his opponents. We have seen it in almost all of his fights and even recently against Masvidal.
btw Masvidal also was a very tough match up for Maia, in fact more so than Woodley, he has insane TDD and also better striking,imo. And lets not forget how Maia dealt with Sonnen, Fitch, Story to name a few. He can deal with wrestlers just fine.
Last time Tyron fought a similar opponent he lost a split decision against Shields. Fight should be close and I am rooting for Maia. Not sure about betting though.
Woodley has that breakable spirit when he's not ahead, also gases with anxiety. Maia breaks people for a living. Unless he lands something that really cracks Maia, it's going to be a boring ass fight on the ground. His small mouth and chin is also a thing i hate about a fighter's durability lol
Cerrone is frail as a welterweight, prone to body shots breaking him. If the old Lawler still exists, it'll be easy
Jones is on tilt and has a lot on his mind ,meanwhile Cormier always only had him on his. That OSP fight was very telling about USADA/Jones, then disappears again for a year he's definitely going to be worse
With picking Broner over Garcia I just feel Broner is at his best when he is the underdog, I love a comeback story so i put in a small bet, also Mikey is moving up a weight class, Broner the bigger more adjusted guy
On July 29 2017 13:17 northsails wrote:
Woodley looks like a tough match up to Maia, but He has shown some questionable fight IQ in the past.
Adding to that the fact that he tends to back himself against the cage in all of his fights it will not be out of the ordinary for Maia to drag him down somehow. And Maia's ground game is so dominant that he does not mind to pull guard and work from there to reverse his opponents. We have seen it in almost all of his fights and even recently against Masvidal.
btw Masvidal also was a very tough match up for Maia, in fact more so than Woodley, he has insane TDD and also better striking,imo. And lets not forget how Maia dealt with Sonnen, Fitch, Story to name a few. He can deal with wrestlers just fine.
Last time Tyron fought a similar opponent he lost a split decision against Shields. Fight should be close and I am rooting for Maia. Not sure about betting though.
Pretty much how i see it.
And who did really try to take woodley down? I cant remember anyone really trying and if there was someone, was he on Maias level?
And who did really try to take woodley down? I cant remember anyone really trying and if there was someone, was he on Maias level?
The only decent grappler he's fought was Gastelum and Gastelum fought him standing up the entire duration of the match as far as I remember so... Maia s obviously on a whole other level
Gastellum is trash, im so surprised how bad the roster has gotten that people insist he's worth a fart, Miocic and Whitaker are also just waiting for somebody in the real top 3 to get back into form and smash their ass like Rockhold and Sea level Cain or Ngganou
On July 29 2017 14:34 Montrachet wrote:
I live in Montreal, when does the main card starts? They always confuses me with the ETPT.
Each color is +1 hour as you move to the right.
4pm > 5pm > 6pm > 7pm
EST is 3 hours ahead of PST.
So main card is at 10pm in Anaheim, and 7pm in Montreal?
They always put the time it is in the host city first and then specify it for EPT?
That's my understanding from it but im arguing with a friend lol.
On July 29 2017 14:34 Montrachet wrote:
I live in Montreal, when does the main card starts? They always confuses me with the ETPT.
Each color is +1 hour as you move to the right.
4pm > 5pm > 6pm > 7pm
EST is 3 hours ahead of PST.
So main card is at 10pm in Anaheim, and 7pm in Montreal?
They always put the time it is in the host city first and then specify it for EPT?
That's my understanding from it but im arguing with a friend lol.
It's crazy how you don't know how to tell the difference between time zones in North America...
UFC pay-per-view cards generally start at 7pm PST. Since we know that California (PST) is 3 hours behind New York (EST), that means the PPV card starts at 7pm PST / 10pm EST.
Look at the picture I provided and match the color closest to your city/state.
Also, it's easiest to use the LP.net time on the top right. I always list LP.net time / PST time / EST time on the front page of every UFC thread.
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 29 2017 22:58. Posts 13039
How are they saying its a close fight? MAYBE Brooks won the first.
I had a bet on brooks but he never won that fight lol
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 30 2017 00:34. Posts 13039
Brooks is such a faggot. He fought the same way he always does, but he couldn't get the TDs like he wanted to, which was expected. He's not going to come back better next time.
all great fights so far
Moicano was getting fkd on the third was like a desperation takedown
very good defense from Ortega, rolling with punches and blocking well
PuertoRican United States. Jul 30 2017 04:32. Posts 13039
Tonya Evinger didn't look good in this fight, but she is way better at her natural weight class of 135 pounds. She was drawing dead at 145 against Cyborg.
meh a shame maia couldnt be more effective, props to woodley i suppose. still i have a feeling he should've tried to brawl and work something out of a clinch maybe. I dunno, just try something different because what he was doing was clearly not taking him anywhere near the belt.
That first round it looked like Cormier had no chance, with those kicks and straight punches being constant by Jones, but damn, that second round Jones looked hesitant, and even a little scared hmmmmmmm
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 30 2017 05:55. Posts 13039
Damnit now I want Sea-Level Cain to avenge this, is he still around?
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[GiTM]-Ace United States. Jul 30 2017 06:15. Posts 1585
On July 30 2017 05:07 PuertoRican wrote:
fuck... Cormier's crying, and he'll be a meme now.
lol i kept thinking that. like fuck DC internet is going to roast you hard for this.
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 30 2017 06:18. Posts 13039
Lost -$90 today. Standard for me and PPV cards...
What really owned me was Moicano winning 2 rounds and then going for a TD in R3 to get subbed, and Knight getting KO`ed in R1. Mostly Knight screwed me.
UFC Mexico is next weekend, then we have a 1 month break from UFC.
Omg nice, finally Jones decided to "McGregor it up" and plans an interesting fight
I guess hes going to begin by fightning an "easier" but still really fun for the fan heavyweight fight, and then challenge Stipe.
I'm sad for Cormier, but i'm not surprised at all by the result. I was actually surprised by how good Jones was, i feel like he was better than ever.
Oh and, obviously, i was sad to see one if my favorite fighter lose to one of my less favorite fighter Woodley.
I gotta give Woodley one thing, his fight IQ is really good and he has insane self control, but i think it wouldnt be a terrible idea for him to actually try to put on a show instead of only focussing on winning.
james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(
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PuertoRican United States. Jul 30 2017 08:22. Posts 13039
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Minsk United States. Jul 30 2017 08:45. Posts 1558
Oh boy, how completely wrong I was on Volkan Oezkemir vs Manuwa.
Volkan has more speed than anyone is used to at that division. It's wrecking people, but I still can't think hes good.
Other than that went well.
What really owned me was Moicano winning 2 rounds and then going for a TD in R3 to get subbed, and Knight getting KO`ed in R1. Mostly Knight screwed me.
UFC Mexico is next weekend, then we have a 1 month break from UFC.
Ortega/Moicano was 19-19 after 2 rounds on all three jundges scorecards. You can find the real scorecard online.
Destroyed, first one to take him down, first one to beat him, first one to TKO him, JBJ s gonna be in his nightmares a lot. What a poor attitude, walking out on the decision.... funny part is DC was taunting him through the left head kicks in the previous round, and he basically KOd him because of it
Woodley is a beast as well, but the fight of the night should go to Lawler/Cerrone imo
Brock Lesnar taunt was retarded as fuck though
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K40Cheddar United States. Jul 30 2017 14:07. Posts 2202
Only bet I placed on the whole card was maia vs woodley goes longer than 2 rounds at -125 for about $100. Easy money.
So sad to see DC lose. Jones classy comment about DC when it was over. DC couldn't believe it. Him and Lawler just zombie it up, walking through everything.
Any chemists/biochemist/analytical chemist that can explain me why it takes so long for a sample to be tested? I mean just make your damn dilution and run it to the GC-MS.
On August 24 2017 00:00 Baalim wrote:
everyone is on steroids but why is Jon so soppy and gets caught twice?
A lot has changed during the last years.
You cant do nearly as much/ and as long as 5 years ago.
The roid game has become a pretty thin line bewteen having noticable benefits while having a high chance of getting caught and not getting caught but having almost no positive effects .
I believe that for the first time in UFC History fighting completely clean is almost a valid option for many of the fighters who dont have so much money. (At least it is an Option to consider)
I have seen horrible performance from fighters that got off roids too early since they were afraid of getting caught.
I believe that they probbaly had performed better at their fights without roid usage in training
U see what i did there with A8 ? He 4 bets and there we go insta jam A8 : ---booooom -- . hahahaha ( Krantz)
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MezmerizePLZ United States. Aug 25 2017 01:29. Posts 2598
I keep seeing/hearing people say in defense of Jones that everyone is on steroids but he's the only one that gets caught. I find it hard to believe that everyone is on steroids? Maybe 25-50%? What do you guys think? I rly know nothing about the industry but fk Jones
On August 25 2017 00:29 MezmerizePLZ wrote:
I keep seeing/hearing people say in defense of Jones that everyone is on steroids but he's the only one that gets caught. I find it hard to believe that everyone is on steroids? Maybe 25-50%? What do you guys think? I rly know nothing about the industry but fk Jones
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I think its very safe to say that almost everyone was on steroid before USADA.
But since USADA, a lot of people seems to clearly be off steroids. Some people that come to mind are Hendricks, Weidman, or even Pettis. But some people decided to keep taking peds, and apparently they're getting caught.
I'm guessing some people might still get away with it.
james9994: make note dont play against floofy, ;(
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traxamillion United States. Aug 25 2017 03:05. Posts 10468
On August 25 2017 00:29 MezmerizePLZ wrote:
I keep seeing/hearing people say in defense of Jones that everyone is on steroids but he's the only one that gets caught. I find it hard to believe that everyone is on steroids? Maybe 25-50%? What do you guys think? I rly know nothing about the industry but fk Jones
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Probably a lot more than that; especially the ones who can afford it.
Before USADA for sure almost everyone was roiding. It may be quite a bit less now. Most are still roididng out of competition though. Straight testosterone in water injections are out of the body in one day. Other Esters in oil like test enanthate last longer so you can inject less often but are detectable longer. Still only on the order of days/week(s) though.
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