On January 02 2017 21:57 whamm! wrote:
Nunes needs to fight cyborg and get smashed. I think only a manlier chick can beat her, I don't see anybody in the roster except Cyborg. She's not an amazing fighter, but she's long aggressive and has a real snap to her strikes, who the hell can match up vs that?
Ronda was never mcgregor but they were packaged almost the same way. Mcgregor outclasses a decent array of opponents while ronda was the big fish in a retarded pond. There's at least some truth to Conor's build up while ronda proved to be a one trick pony who wanted to prove she wasn't by boxing against taebo chicks and believing she was at a boxer's level
Nunes would likely tap Cyborg a lot of the time. Cyborg has a pretty awful ground game, and Nunez is a good enough striker/wrestler and is athletic to hold her own long enough to get it to the floor. She's def a much better submission grappler once its on the floor.
She may not win because Cyborg is such a manly beast, but Nunes is certainly a better all-around fighter. She's #3 P4P behind JJ and Gadhella, who are clearly worlds above anyone at 35 or 45 technique wise.
For me, womens top 5 P4P:
#1. JJ
#2 CG
#3 Nunes
#4 Schevchenko
#5 Cyborg
On a women's side note, I think the hype behind Juliana Pena is hilarious. She is not good and will get embarrassed by Schevchenko. How did people watch her almost lose to Jessica Eye and STILL think she's good? I'm baffled. Then Zingano shows up, barely loses to her in a shit fight, and the hype only grows. Maybe Schevchenko's TDD is terrible and I don't know it, but I don't think so. I'm expecting juicy odds, near pick-em, on that fight.
I like Schevchenko a lot, but have you watched any of her kickboxing fights? She's like the biggest clinch machine in the world.
Like, completely unable NOT to clinch even if it's against the rules (watched one of her fights in China and it was literally 3 rounds of non-stop "PLEASE STOP DUMPING YOUR OPPONENT" warnings from the ref). Probably not gonna be a problem against Pena but I could see her getting into trouble against pure grapplers funnily enough...
Either way, definitely hope she wins, not a big fan of her opponent...
On January 02 2017 16:36 Nazgul wrote:
The hype in hindsight was so fucked up crazy. She was always the Royce Gracie of female MMA instead of a once in a lifetime athlete. Royce can be credit with tons of amazing things, but the best fighter ever he is not. Ronda has done so much for female MMA that we can only be grateful for. I still think she can be a contender and she is only 29. I would be super hyped for a comeback one year from now if she spent the year at Jackson Wink and started at the bottom of the ladder working her way up. Remember at one point there was talk about her possibly getting into a boxing career. It's nuts. Edmund is the worst piece of shit.
I've seen it thrown around a few places that her knees are in really poor condition, I wonder if there's any truth to that... It would explain why she basically never attempts anything resembling a leg-attack (though of course, IJF banning leg-attacks in Judo could be why as well).
Fair observation about the clinching, but perhaps that's because she doesn't have to worry about td's in kickboxing fights, which admittedly I have not seen. Has she ever desperately tried to clinch in an MMA fight? Because if it's only against high level strikers, it's not relevant vs Pena.
The most amazing part is that he painted himself on the wall next to Muhammed Ali. I love it.
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PuertoRican United States. Jan 08 2017 20:57. Posts 13044
On January 08 2017 17:13 Nazgul wrote:
The most amazing part is that he painted himself on the wall next to Muhammed Ali. I love it.
I have a similar painting on my wall in my room, except that it's me next to SlayerS_`BoxeR` with our fists in the air yelling HWAITING!!!
Rekrul is a newb
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TianYuan Korea (South). Jan 09 2017 11:15. Posts 6817
On January 08 2017 17:13 Nazgul wrote:
The most amazing part is that he painted himself on the wall next to Muhammed Ali. I love it.
Didn't he say that it's actually supposed to be Naseem Hamed, the boxer? I thought I read that somewhere but maybe it was an after-the-fact justification.
Hm.. Off-suite socks..
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TianYuan Korea (South). Jan 09 2017 11:17. Posts 6817
On January 02 2017 21:57 whamm! wrote:
Nunes needs to fight cyborg and get smashed. I think only a manlier chick can beat her, I don't see anybody in the roster except Cyborg. She's not an amazing fighter, but she's long aggressive and has a real snap to her strikes, who the hell can match up vs that?
Ronda was never mcgregor but they were packaged almost the same way. Mcgregor outclasses a decent array of opponents while ronda was the big fish in a retarded pond. There's at least some truth to Conor's build up while ronda proved to be a one trick pony who wanted to prove she wasn't by boxing against taebo chicks and believing she was at a boxer's level
Nunes would likely tap Cyborg a lot of the time. Cyborg has a pretty awful ground game, and Nunez is a good enough striker/wrestler and is athletic to hold her own long enough to get it to the floor. She's def a much better submission grappler once its on the floor.
She may not win because Cyborg is such a manly beast, but Nunes is certainly a better all-around fighter. She's #3 P4P behind JJ and Gadhella, who are clearly worlds above anyone at 35 or 45 technique wise.
For me, womens top 5 P4P:
#1. JJ
#2 CG
#3 Nunes
#4 Schevchenko
#5 Cyborg
On a women's side note, I think the hype behind Juliana Pena is hilarious. She is not good and will get embarrassed by Schevchenko. How did people watch her almost lose to Jessica Eye and STILL think she's good? I'm baffled. Then Zingano shows up, barely loses to her in a shit fight, and the hype only grows. Maybe Schevchenko's TDD is terrible and I don't know it, but I don't think so. I'm expecting juicy odds, near pick-em, on that fight.
I like Schevchenko a lot, but have you watched any of her kickboxing fights? She's like the biggest clinch machine in the world.
Like, completely unable NOT to clinch even if it's against the rules (watched one of her fights in China and it was literally 3 rounds of non-stop "PLEASE STOP DUMPING YOUR OPPONENT" warnings from the ref). Probably not gonna be a problem against Pena but I could see her getting into trouble against pure grapplers funnily enough...
Either way, definitely hope she wins, not a big fan of her opponent...
On January 02 2017 16:36 Nazgul wrote:
The hype in hindsight was so fucked up crazy. She was always the Royce Gracie of female MMA instead of a once in a lifetime athlete. Royce can be credit with tons of amazing things, but the best fighter ever he is not. Ronda has done so much for female MMA that we can only be grateful for. I still think she can be a contender and she is only 29. I would be super hyped for a comeback one year from now if she spent the year at Jackson Wink and started at the bottom of the ladder working her way up. Remember at one point there was talk about her possibly getting into a boxing career. It's nuts. Edmund is the worst piece of shit.
I've seen it thrown around a few places that her knees are in really poor condition, I wonder if there's any truth to that... It would explain why she basically never attempts anything resembling a leg-attack (though of course, IJF banning leg-attacks in Judo could be why as well).
Fair observation about the clinching, but perhaps that's because she doesn't have to worry about td's in kickboxing fights, which admittedly I have not seen. Has she ever desperately tried to clinch in an MMA fight? Because if it's only against high level strikers, it's not relevant vs Pena.
Her first UFC fight when she was like introduced as this highly decorated striker, the commentators and I guess everyone else were a bit surprised she was using so many throws and stuff and were like 'wow so well rounded' and what not - which is fair.
Anyway after that I watched a bunch of her fights and she really just... clinches and destroys people with dumps and throws. Not really worried about it vs anyone yet, but maybe vs like Rousey or something it could be a bad idea if she can't stop herself.
Netherlands. Jan 07 2017 18:36. Posts 7080
