Wow, I am almost 40 and I've never tried drugs, pretty sure never will. Very interested in reading the rest of your story though. I hope you can get out of this.
Have you read Mike Matusow's book? He talks a lot about drugs there.
This will probably be one of the best things you will do in your life, it will help you learn sooo much, especially now that you are more mature and can handle shit better than the avg young guy trying stuff.
Wait till you try psychodelics and they bend your mind and you have life ephiphanies, your mind will be blown my friend.
E is cool and all but your definately gonna learn some shit After an epic dose of 5 grams of mushrooms. Start out with 3.5 tho... sometimes people arent ready for the full 5.0. And if you ever run across some legit DMT make sure u don't pass it up.
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Daut   United States. Jul 21 2013 00:53. Posts 8955
im gonna go out on a limb and guess that since the night this blogpost occured joe has done more drugs than everyone who has replied combined (not counting traxamillion who im sure has done enough to kill all the elephants in the world). the next few blogposts will be incredible im sure
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On July 21 2013 01:09 Stroggoz wrote:
introspection is far better than any drug for opening ur mind.
except for mushrooms
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Joeingram1   United States. Jul 21 2013 07:06. Posts 943
On July 20 2013 21:34 Baalim wrote:
This will probably be one of the best things you will do in your life, it will help you learn sooo much, especially now that you are more mature and can handle shit better than the avg young guy trying stuff.
Wait till you try psychodelics and they bend your mind and you have life ephiphanies, your mind will be blown my friend.
this first part was actually over a year ago now and that is one of the things i was planning to touch on was that I am glad I waited till I am older and i have your 2nd sentence is 10000 percent spot on. Very mind bending indeed
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Joeingram1   United States. Jul 21 2013 07:08. Posts 943
On July 20 2013 23:53 Daut wrote:
im gonna go out on a limb and guess that since the night this blogpost occured joe has done more drugs than everyone who has replied combined (not counting traxamillion who im sure has done enough to kill all the elephants in the world). the next few blogposts will be incredible im sure
im thinking about this right now
i went really fucking crazy for a few month time span
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Joeingram1   United States. Jul 21 2013 07:13. Posts 943
On July 20 2013 22:37 Target-x17 wrote:
lol love you but always took you for a drug addict prop just based on recent posts
I dont really think I was ever to the drug addict stage by my own definition of what I think an addict is. Ive never done them alone or felt like i needed them ever (besdies music fests)
I just met some really fun people along the way who really loved to do them for hours and hours
from experience from excessive use of drugs, i can only say, stay away from those sedatives. opiates primarely! if you have even an inch of a weak mind u can get stuck, i was for a long time on subutex. e(mdma) and such are sick nice shit tho! take sporadically and you'll just have fun with drugs
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Fujikura   United States. Jul 21 2013 13:42. Posts 1795
On July 21 2013 10:38 inc wrote:
from experience from excessive use of drugs, i can only say, stay away from those sedatives. opiates primarely! if you have even an inch of a weak mind u can get stuck, i was for a long time on subutex. e(mdma) and such are sick nice shit tho! take sporadically and you'll just have fun with drugs
+1, drugs are pretty fun and stuff, just make sure you're responsible and don't let them take control of your life
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
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On July 21 2013 13:19 PplusAD wrote:
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
Definitelly drugs arent for everyone, and they are usually tried in an immature stage in life.
However I think the world would be a better place if everybody tried a strong psychodelic at least once in their life time, so many people live never truly looking inside themselves and that would force them to take a dive in their own mind.
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RaiNKhAN   United States. Jul 21 2013 20:45. Posts 4080
On July 21 2013 13:19 PplusAD wrote:
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
Definitelly drugs arent for everyone, and they are usually tried in an immature stage in life.
However I think the world would be a better place if everybody tried a strong psychodelic at least once in their life time, so many people live never truly looking inside themselves and that would force them to take a dive in their own mind.
If strong psychodelics were as available as say, arizona iced tea, then I think they would try them too. the problem therein that exists be that of associatin' wit dem thuggish type ethnicities etc etc wink wink
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I've tried alot but nothing compares to psychedelic drugs(maybe dissociative, but those are less fun imo, I wouldn't recommand them), haven't tried ayahuasca/DMT but I would be happy to. If you really wanna understand the human mind, psychedelics are the most accessible doorway. I wish I could say that with meditation you can get as deep into what is consciousness but in my opinion it doesn't compare. MDMA is a much friendlier drug but if I'm correct it has some affinity with the same receptor that trigger LSD effects in the visual cortex (5-HT2A receptor) but it has a much less strong affinity for it than LSD, MDMA binds with a bunch of different serotonin receptor so it has a different feeling to it. Hopefully they all get legalized it's about time imo.
i've tried mdma, shrooms, and cocaine, thats pretty much it, and i have no idea of what you are talking about with those psychedelic drugs, strong introspection drugs and shits. I just never had stuff like that happening to me with srooms or never tried some things like that. Really curious about knowing a bit more about what you guys are talking about.
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Sanai   United States. Jul 22 2013 13:00. Posts 643
On July 21 2013 23:50 FullBRing wrote:
i've tried mdma, shrooms, and cocaine, thats pretty much it, and i have no idea of what you are talking about with those psychedelic drugs, strong introspection drugs and shits. I just never had stuff like that happening to me with srooms or never tried some things like that. Really curious about knowing a bit more about what you guys are talking about.
A lot of it has to do with environment. If you take some and go to a club or a rave and you are bombarded with sensory overload (music, lights, people, etc.). There's very little opportunity for going into the rabbit hole of your own mind. Instead, you should create an environment that encourages exploring inside your own brain, having some alone time and the freedom to just think and feel.
I regularly trip on shrooms (every 3-4 months) with a small shroom crew (2-4 people that I trust and have good experiences with) and we plan for it like an all-day event. A basic itinerary might look like this:
-Meet early (noon or 1-2 p.m.) and lay out together on a blanket on the roof or backyard, staring at clouds/trees/plantlife, etc. Maybe a little music from iPod speakers playing. Try to identify shapes in clouds or just enjoy nature.
-Head inside, turn off all the lights, put on a sick trip playlist (chillstep, trance, progressive house are especially good genres), and then watch a slideshow of STILL pictures. We like landscape images or edgy/cool imaginative art. We time the slideshow so we get about 10 minutes per picture (it's easy to lose all sense of time while tripping so we preset this). Really observe/stare/enjoy the pictures. You will notice that the picture starts moving, lines get blurred, you get lost in a particular detail, etc.
-Turn on the iTunes visualizer in sync with the music and enjoy this for a couple of hours (this is also good if you're on MDMA).
-Watch trippy youtube videos. Trippy =/= weird/scary/strange stuff. We like those too, but also enjoy very beautiful or moving things (examples: sick dance videos, Kanye West music videos lol, and other random stuff that we have collected over the years).
Key tips:
-Don't be scared to get lost in your own mind! A really fun thing to do while shrooming is to just close your eyes in the dark. You will see your brain at work, doing all kinds of crazy, surreal shit that will entertain you and fascinate you endlessly. Open yourself to thought paths and just see where they lead. Generally though, I would advise staying away from certain doors (memories/thoughts that you sense will lead to strong negativity) UNLESS you are with people you absolutely trust to help you handle it.
- A cool friend in RL is NOT necessarily a good TRIP BUDDY. People that you hang out with and have fun on a superficial level may be hiding all sorts of baggage/mental instability that will come out in a psychedelic experience. You don't want to have to deal with this if you can help it. My shroom crew has been vetted over the years for people who have that quality where they can enjoy all the expanded possiblities of shrooming while maintaining a bit of control (I compare this to driving a car with a loose grip).
- You can use shrooms strategically as you get more used to it. I have an entrepreneur friend who utilizes shrooms as part of his creative process for his company. When he was struggling with coming up with a brand logo, he asked me if I wanted to trip and we just stared at different possible logos and just considered the vision of the company/product. Sure we deviated a lot and went on tangents, but you can really use it to help consider RL issues from a different angle. One of the most important career decisions I ever made was due to a revelation I had about myself while shrooming.
On July 21 2013 13:19 PplusAD wrote:
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
Definitelly drugs arent for everyone, and they are usually tried in an immature stage in life.
However I think the world would be a better place if everybody tried a strong psychodelic at least once in their life time, so many people live never truly looking inside themselves and that would force them to take a dive in their own mind.
Definitely strong psychodelics aren't for everyone to try. Some people with predispositions to schizophrenia or in bad mental states shouldn't even think of trying it.
On July 21 2013 13:19 PplusAD wrote:
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
Definitelly drugs arent for everyone, and they are usually tried in an immature stage in life.
However I think the world would be a better place if everybody tried a strong psychodelic at least once in their life time, so many people live never truly looking inside themselves and that would force them to take a dive in their own mind.
If strong psychodelics were as available as say, arizona iced tea, then I think they would try them too. the problem therein that exists be that of associatin' wit dem thuggish type ethnicities etc etc wink wink
lol thugs don't really sell psychedelics as there isn't really a lot of profit in them. For psychedelics your best bet is to go to an electronic music festival or where ever hippies gather.
Also from my understand there are plenty of psychedelics that are pretty easy to make.
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On July 21 2013 13:19 PplusAD wrote:
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
Definitelly drugs arent for everyone, and they are usually tried in an immature stage in life.
However I think the world would be a better place if everybody tried a strong psychodelic at least once in their life time, so many people live never truly looking inside themselves and that would force them to take a dive in their own mind.
Definitely strong psychodelics aren't for everyone to try. Some people with predispositions to schizophrenia or in bad mental states shouldn't even think of trying it.
It doesnt trigger schizophrenia in people who wouldnt get it, it only makes it manifest earlier in latent teens, so wrong there, but you are right that if somebody is in a particularly bad state of mind they shouldnt try it, altho sometimes it can be a catartic process to heal, especially when its a long lasting problem rather than a temporary mood.
On July 23 2013 06:27 ichiro wrote:
you went the whole night on half a pill? was it the size of a golfball?
i take x once every 3-4 months, but with me it normally wears off after an hour or 2.
lol get a new dealer bro.
A good pill should have you rushing for a good 4 hours and for people who does more often than you.
For newbies half or even 1/4 (if they are small or girls) is a good dosage, otherwise they are often overwhelmed by the feeling and cant handle it.
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YoMeR   United States. Jul 25 2013 06:04. Posts 12438
Shrooms was a pretty awesome experience.
DMT was some fucking spiritual shit. if anyone wants to trip balls and have a life changing experience i'd suggest that stuff...I know i came out with a greater appreciation for life afterwards..and it was only a 20 min or so trip.
but does anyone know how to get DMT in europe? Im pretty sure its kinda non existent in Hungary for example. Also what are the most negative parts of using it? flashbacks, addiction etc? And lastly, is it that much better than LSD or other hallucinogens?
you make your own DMT by extracting the substance from plant i believe. There are no "dealers" only hippies who know how to do it properly. pretty sure the plant itself is legal and you can have it delivered to your door.
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On July 25 2013 15:57 dnagardi wrote:
but does anyone know how to get DMT in europe? Im pretty sure its kinda non existent in Hungary for example. Also what are the most negative parts of using it? flashbacks, addiction etc? And lastly, is it that much better than LSD or other hallucinogens?
This video is interesting, talks about DMT and may reduce your doubts about take it or not. THIS IS NOT A "DRUG"
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Stim_Abuser   United States. Jul 25 2013 20:22. Posts 7499
I've heard some real horror stories from being who had bad DMT trips, enough to keep me far away from that shit.
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On July 21 2013 13:19 PplusAD wrote:
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
Definitelly drugs arent for everyone, and they are usually tried in an immature stage in life.
However I think the world would be a better place if everybody tried a strong psychodelic at least once in their life time, so many people live never truly looking inside themselves and that would force them to take a dive in their own mind.
Definitely strong psychodelics aren't for everyone to try. Some people with predispositions to schizophrenia or in bad mental states shouldn't even think of trying it.
It doesnt trigger schizophrenia in people who wouldnt get it, it only makes it manifest earlier in latent teens, so wrong there, but you are right that if somebody is in a particularly bad state of mind they shouldnt try it, altho sometimes it can be a catartic process to heal, especially when its a long lasting problem rather than a temporary mood.
Obviously it doesn't trigger in ppl who wouldn't get it at all but it may triggers in ppl who would get it with it but wouldn't without it. Also as you get older it becomes more dangerous because your mind/brain is not as flexible as it used to be when you were young.
On July 23 2013 06:27 ichiro wrote:
you went the whole night on half a pill? was it the size of a golfball?
i take x once every 3-4 months, but with me it normally wears off after an hour or 2.
lol get a new dealer bro.
A good pill should have you rushing for a good 4 hours and for people who does more often than you.
For newbies half or even 1/4 (if they are small or girls) is a good dosage, otherwise they are often overwhelmed by the feeling and cant handle it.
i am dutch; i have 6 dealers.
i have used 8 different pills in my life and never did a high last for more than 2 perhaps 3 hours. might have something to do with me being 1.98m and 125kg though.
On July 21 2013 13:19 PplusAD wrote:
Well i have taken a lot of drugs in my past ....
I am clean for almost 8 years now
I dont even remember too much of that time where i was on drugs basically every day for more than 3 years.
started doing drugs at 15 ocassionally then turned in hardcore 2 years later and stopped aged 20,
maybe i was too young
maybe drugs arent for people who tend to be a bit extreme and have no patience
Dont feel like drugs can do anything positive to my life right now
Definitelly drugs arent for everyone, and they are usually tried in an immature stage in life.
However I think the world would be a better place if everybody tried a strong psychodelic at least once in their life time, so many people live never truly looking inside themselves and that would force them to take a dive in their own mind.
Definitely strong psychodelics aren't for everyone to try. Some people with predispositions to schizophrenia or in bad mental states shouldn't even think of trying it.
It doesnt trigger schizophrenia in people who wouldnt get it, it only makes it manifest earlier in latent teens, so wrong there, but you are right that if somebody is in a particularly bad state of mind they shouldnt try it, altho sometimes it can be a catartic process to heal, especially when its a long lasting problem rather than a temporary mood.
Obviously it doesn't trigger in ppl who wouldn't get it at all but it may triggers in ppl who would get it with it but wouldn't without it. Also as you get older it becomes more dangerous because your mind/brain is not as flexible as it used to be when you were young.
Absolutely not true, it doesnt trigger schizophrenia in people who wouldnt get it, period.
what are you talking about. Lets say someones father had it. His kids dont have to get it in their lifetime but if they try schrooms it increases chance of triggerring itself. Is it not true? please explain