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whamm!   Albania. Feb 23 2012 15:32. Posts 11625
main poker is dead. hand histories is shit. general still kickin' but I dunno for how long. what's going to save this wonderful site!?!


die howard and bilat power posts is what I see everyday. i try to contribute but the cynicsm kills my stupid threads. lol

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 Last edit: 23/02/2012 15:34

tutz   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 16:02. Posts 2140

I agree, this site is dying.
one thing I blame for sure are the mods. they ban people for stupid reasons, ignore shit that "greenstars" say, cant make a joke, cant make an innocent troll, cant post funny gifs, but I can bash people all I want. maybe I even get a ban for posting this. as according to the my last ban the next is gonna come with the permanent closure of my account. I remember I used to tell people how I like this poker forum, not anymore... I still come here everyday cause I got "hooked" on LP.

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 16:03

c4rnage   . Feb 23 2012 16:07. Posts 409


  On February 23 2012 15:02 tutz wrote:
I agree, this site is dying.
one thing I blame for sure are the mods. they ban people for stupid reasons, ignore shit that "greenstars" say, cant make a joke, cant make an innocent troll, cant post funny gifs, but I can bash people all I want. maybe I even get a ban for posting this. as according to the my last ban the next is gonna come with the permanent closure of my account. I remember I used to tell people how I like this poker forum, not anymore... I still come here everyday cause I got "hooked" on LP.




try spanish site with baal as mod.


Carthac   United States. Feb 23 2012 16:17. Posts 1343

Not gonna lie whamm, every post you make lately has been nothing but whining. You complain but don't add much


Garfed   Malta. Feb 23 2012 16:30. Posts 4818

The site lost a ton of traffic, including very active posters, after The Black Friday. Our international site was heavily focused on American traffic, and out of it a lot of people still visit, but as they can't play, number of hands posted dropped a lot.
Believe me, we are doing a ton of work, but this is really hard since whole poker market is taking a deep dive.


  On February 23 2012 15:02 tutz wrote:
I agree, this site is dying.
one thing I blame for sure are the mods. they ban people for stupid reasons, ignore shit that "greenstars" say, cant make a joke, cant make an innocent troll, cant post funny gifs, but I can bash people all I want. maybe I even get a ban for posting this. as according to the my last ban the next is gonna come with the permanent closure of my account. I remember I used to tell people how I like this poker forum, not anymore... I still come here everyday cause I got "hooked" on LP.


I completely disagree and in my opinion it's right the opposite - there was way too much freedom, to the point where most of advices given were utterly useless and pure trolling, which scares newcomers from becoming part of the community.


uiCk   Canada. Feb 23 2012 16:35. Posts 3521

yea i adisagree, forum is more active then few months ago imo

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

Target-x17   Canada. Feb 23 2012 16:36. Posts 1027

My thread i made was closed in 10 seconds I was impressed. Now it wasint the greatest thread idea I ever had but come on

f u bw rock 

Raidern   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 16:37. Posts 4243


  On February 23 2012 15:02 tutz wrote:
I agree, this site is dying.
one thing I blame for sure are the mods. they ban people for stupid reasons, ignore shit that "greenstars" say, cant make a joke, cant make an innocent troll, cant post funny gifs, but I can bash people all I want. maybe I even get a ban for posting this. as according to the my last ban the next is gonna come with the permanent closure of my account. I remember I used to tell people how I like this poker forum, not anymore... I still come here everyday cause I got "hooked" on LP.



There are several reasons for the decreasing activity on the site but my opinion the mods are not one of them. There is almost no mod intervention on the site. You've been banned 2-3 times and every single one of them was deserved. I'm sure you can't name five people other than you that were banned for "stupid reasons" off the top of your head. Obviously we make mistakes and we might have banned people that didn't deserve it, but it's not something that happens often.

im a regular at nl5Last edit: 23/02/2012 16:41

Garfed   Malta. Feb 23 2012 16:43. Posts 4818


  On February 23 2012 15:36 Target-x17 wrote:
My thread i made was closed in 10 seconds I was impressed. Now it wasint the greatest thread idea I ever had but come on



Because:
1) it should be in ROFL thread
2) it was posted in ROFL thread 2-3 days ago already

also, I would like to point out, that if you feel topic closure was unjustified it's better to ask why it was closed and if you don't agree with that reasoning, ask with proper arguments to reopen it. Insulting me in a priv msg instead is not the best idea.

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 16:46

tutz   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 16:59. Posts 2140


  On February 23 2012 15:37 Raidern wrote:
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There are several reasons for the decreasing activity on the site but my opinion the mods are not one of them. There is almost no mod intervention on the site. You've been banned 2-3 times and every single one of them was deserved. I'm sure you can't name five people other than you that were banned for "stupid reasons" off the top of your head. Obviously we make mistakes and we might have banned people that didn't deserve it, but it's not something that happens often.


I think all my bans were retarded, just mods wanting to show off. if you really think my bans were deserved I believe you just want to stick for your own or you are a bit too drunk over your powers here. and of course I can't remember 5 bans off the top of my head, who would? why would I keep count? I cant even remember what I had for lunch in the last 5 days.


Garfed   Malta. Feb 23 2012 17:10. Posts 4818


  On February 23 2012 15:59 tutz wrote:
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I think all my bans were retarded, just mods wanting to show off. if you really think my bans were deserved I believe you just want to stick for your own or you are a bit too drunk over your powers here. and of course I can't remember 5 bans off the top of my head, who would? why would I keep count? I cant even remember what I had for lunch in the last 5 days.



Oh, then you think those is fine?
1) posting a "dick in the ass" as a suggestion in Valentines gift thread. http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-foru...lentines_day_gift_suggestions.html#13
2) posting this is fine as well? http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/994339/3/best_site_right_now_.html#56

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 17:19

KrappyKonnect   Canada. Feb 23 2012 17:25. Posts 1127

hey! The hands I post are good a-hole


Raidern   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 17:28. Posts 4243


  On February 23 2012 15:59 tutz wrote:
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I think all my bans were retarded, just mods wanting to show off. if you really think my bans were deserved I believe you just want to stick for your own or you are a bit too drunk over your powers here. and of course I can't remember 5 bans off the top of my head, who would? why would I keep count? I cant even remember what I had for lunch in the last 5 days.



Power? Are you 14? I do remember I banned you because you trolled some newcomer who asked something about poker rooms and that's something we consider unacceptable.

im a regular at nl5 

tutz   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 17:33. Posts 2140


  On February 23 2012 16:10 Defrag wrote:
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Oh, then you think those is fine?
1) posting a "dick in the ass" as a suggestion in Valentines gift thread. http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-foru...lentines_day_gift_suggestions.html#13
2) posting this is fine as well? http://www.liquidpoker.net/poker-forum/994339/3/best_site_right_now_.html#56



I sincerely believe those are totally fine.
1) what's the line there? posting "dick in a box" is ok but "dick in the ass" omg he is suggesting anal? so what? doing anal now is wrong is that what you are saying? yes it was a joke, and a totally OK joke.

2) dude seriously that? I'm not even gonna argue cause this was a totally retarded ban. people even defended me in the thread... read their points and make them mine.

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 17:35

tutz   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 17:36. Posts 2140


  On February 23 2012 16:28 Raidern wrote:
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Power? Are you 14? I do remember I banned you because you trolled some newcomer who asked something about poker rooms and that's something we consider unacceptable.



yeah POWER. no I'm 22, read above.

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 17:36

dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 23 2012 17:55. Posts 6374

ban tutz

ban baal 

Raidern   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 17:56. Posts 4243


  On February 23 2012 16:36 tutz wrote:
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yeah POWER. no I'm 22, read above.



Great argument, "people defended me." Give me a good argument on why is it reasonable to troll a new poster who asks a legit question about poker rooms.

im a regular at nl5 

ERASA   Germany. Feb 23 2012 18:00. Posts 2440

Stop trying to kill the nba thread and everything will be alright


tutz   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 18:08. Posts 2140

I can paste them here for you:;

"Hey mods, jokes like tutzs are what make LP the best forum. It give a good sense of community to have in-jokes like this, and people will give a correction later in the thread (and this actually generates more discussion). Down with TL-style modding."
___________________________________
"
so ridiculous to temp ban him for that post ... might as well start temp banning half the forum cause of semi troll posts
if you want to direct your anger towars someone do it to ftp & cake owners not people joking about it .. wow

and have you seen the low stakes forums past months ? half the posts are trolls" (two other guys quoted this)
___________________________________
"i think tutz's comment was hilarious"
___________________________________

"funny is subjective, you dont have a say on what is or isnt funny, what matters is the intent... you cant ban someone that intended to make a joke, regardless if its funny or not to you.

I mean you can ban whoever for whatever its your forum but lets say things as they are ^^"
___________________________________
"The ban is too strict imo."
___________________________________
"
<3 tutz!
how long is a temp ban?"
___________________________________
"feels like im in teamliquid all over again"
___________________________________
"lmao tutz temp banned"
___________________________________
"temp-ban tutz for troll-deraling the thread. Thread goes on smoothly, not ironic."
___________________________________
"tbh tutz should be even more excused because of the troll/jinx fest in his 40k FT thread" (ironic to say but the troll-derailing in my thread started by a greenstar, and nothing happened to him)

______________________________________
is that enough for you?

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 18:14

PoorUser    United States. Feb 23 2012 18:14. Posts 7472

lp will always live on as long as we, the people who love lp, keep it in our hearts and minds

Gambler Emeritus 

ERASA   Germany. Feb 23 2012 18:14. Posts 2440

Only BOSSES use "<3"


PoorUser    United States. Feb 23 2012 18:20. Posts 7472

also @ tutz. getting banned by nazgul is the ultimate shame. you best believe people who dun been banned by naz deserved it.

Gambler EmeritusLast edit: 23/02/2012 18:22

devon06atX   Canada. Feb 23 2012 18:21. Posts 5460

tutz, you're annoying as hell and you're surprised a mod gets tired of your bullshit from time to time?

c'mon man.


julep   Australia. Feb 23 2012 18:42. Posts 1274


  On February 23 2012 17:21 devon06atX wrote:
tutz, you're annoying as hell and you're surprised a mod gets tired of your bullshit from time to time?

c'mon man.


tutz   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 18:54. Posts 2140

guys I understand that you dont like me, but that is a personal opnion. bans shouldnt be distribuited based on personal opnions.


k4ir0s   Canada. Feb 23 2012 19:10. Posts 3480

main poker and general is fine imo, would be nice if ppl posted more hands in the low/med/high stakes area. I'd like to contribute by posting some hands, but I play FR, nothing interesting about FR


  On February 23 2012 15:17 Carthac wrote:
Not gonna lie whamm, every post you make lately has been nothing but whining. You complain but don't add much



whamm great, he adds more to the site than most LP'ers, and he doesn't even play poker anymore :O

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

tutz   Brasil. Feb 23 2012 19:12. Posts 2140

so do I get at least a "We are sorry" from LP mods or what? :D


k4ir0s   Canada. Feb 23 2012 19:17. Posts 3480


  On February 23 2012 17:54 tutz wrote:
guys I understand that you dont like me, but that is a personal opnion. bans shouldnt be distribuited based on personal opnions.



tutz is lol. plz don't ban him

I dont know what a dt drop is. Is it a wrestling move? -Oly 

barbieman   Sweden. Feb 23 2012 19:19. Posts 2132

ban whamm for creating a thread that got derailed, and also, he's whiny.


Garfed   Malta. Feb 23 2012 19:23. Posts 4818


  On February 23 2012 18:12 tutz wrote:
so do I get at least a "We are sorry" from LP mods or what? :D



All your bans were completely justified and I would ban you again in any given previous situation.

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 19:23

vasoline73   United States. Feb 23 2012 19:36. Posts 810

I can't play poker anymore but I still browse LP out of habit since BF. Hopefully poker in the US comes back again someday and I can participate again. It also helps that I'm here from TL.. I'm sure alot of people who found LP through TL are still here.


TalentedTom    Canada. Feb 23 2012 19:41. Posts 20070

if it'll help i can post some of my HH's

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

PoorUser    United States. Feb 23 2012 19:48. Posts 7472

if you post i'll start commenting!

Gambler Emeritus 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Feb 23 2012 20:24. Posts 10896


  On February 23 2012 18:41 TalentedTom wrote:
if it'll help i can post some of my HH's


it will
xD


BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Feb 23 2012 20:32. Posts 1525

mods please bring back my tokeweed account. thanks.


BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Feb 23 2012 20:37. Posts 1525

i wanna use my original screen name before LP dies.


Joeingram1   United States. Feb 23 2012 20:58. Posts 943

i love this site, hope it doesn't die


if anyone has anyways or ideas to help with more traffic or get more users involved plz post and let me know, I am in


dogmeat   Czech Republic. Feb 23 2012 21:51. Posts 6374

ban baal 

Zep   United States. Feb 23 2012 22:07. Posts 2292

Meh it's just part of the cycle. Like 1.5 years ago this site was shit. It made a rebound for awhile and got pretty fucked on black friday. On a side note, it's quite ironic how people don't understand how poker is good for the global economy.

NeillyJQ: I really wanted to prove to myself I could beat NL200, I did over a small sample, and believe Ill be crushing there in the future. 

PuertoRican   United States. Feb 23 2012 22:21. Posts 13185

- After Black Friday, I remember a couple people making blogs saying they were leaving the site just cuz poker is dead, I was kind of sad, not cuz they were leaving, but that all they came to this site for was poker related stuff. Some just stopped posting altogether.

- The amount of active users has picked up a bit after the dry spell brought on by Black Friday, I look at the Users/Active numbers at the top right every time I visit the site.

- It would be nice if more people contributed to the site, whether it's talking about sports, music, movies, chicks you boned, vacations you went to or are going to, etc.
If you don't think your thread/blog will be popular, just make it anyway.

I make MMA threads cuz I'm gonna follow/watch the MMA events anyway, so if anyone else is gonna watch it too then the thread is useful, if not, then I don't care. I've made plenty of MMA threads about small leagues that nobody here gave a shit about (Shark Fights, Legacy Fighting, Maximum Fighting, OneFC, etc), but I still watched the event.



  On February 23 2012 17:54 tutz wrote:
guys I understand that you dont like me, but that is a personal opnion. bans shouldnt be distribuited based on personal opnions.



It's not that people dislike you, it's that you're a whiny bitch at times who made terrible videos that were supposed to be funny but felt more like a cock tease instead.

You should stop taking everything on the internet so seriously, it's obvious that getting banned at LP has bothered you, when it shouldn't have.
Maybe step away from the PC for a week or something.

Rekrul is a newbLast edit: 23/02/2012 22:25

TheLink   Australia. Feb 23 2012 22:27. Posts 406

I think you guys would be surprised at the number of lurkers you've got. This is a good site that I recommend around but you guys are really fucking hostile to newcomers.


whamm!   Albania. Feb 23 2012 22:43. Posts 11625

lol at least this blogpost generated some much needed drama


whamm!   Albania. Feb 23 2012 22:48. Posts 11625


  On February 23 2012 15:17 Carthac wrote:
Not gonna lie whamm, every post you make lately has been nothing but whining. You complain but don't add much




I dont play poker, so I can't really make a lot of threads in the Main Poker section or post hands. I try to post stuff I get from other good sites and post about movies and tv . The last whining thread I made was about SC2 and how much it sucked lol

 Last edit: 23/02/2012 22:48

2c0ntent   Egypt. Feb 23 2012 23:21. Posts 1387

I am in the real world these days (its all bullshit out here too tbh) and my posts per day are from like 13 down to 2 also reddit.. but I already got tired of that place, so many sad sad nerds.

also I have a journal on real paper instead of internet blogging where cocksucker employers might track down my personal business. at least when I die as a famous genius, my notebooks will be treasured by millions!

go 'murica!

-nightizzle

+-Last edit: 23/02/2012 23:23

spets1   Australia. Feb 24 2012 03:58. Posts 2179

i agree with tuts first post banning for little things is bullshit,

hola 

qwerty67890   New Zealand. Feb 24 2012 06:20. Posts 14026

Gentlemen. It has been a privilege playing with you tonight.


waga   United Kingdom. Feb 24 2012 08:31. Posts 2375


  On February 23 2012 18:41 TalentedTom wrote:
if it'll help i can post some of my HH's



please.

btw I have to agree , some of tutz' ban were too hard imo.
But yes he's annoying sometimes
Overall I'm quite happy with the mods...


tutz   Brasil. Feb 24 2012 09:01. Posts 2140


  On February 23 2012 21:21 PuertoRican wrote:
It's not that people dislike you, it's that you're a whiny bitch at times who made terrible videos that were supposed to be funny but felt more like a cock tease instead.



this is your personal opnion.


tutz   Brasil. Feb 24 2012 09:03. Posts 2140


  On February 23 2012 18:23 Defrag wrote:
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All your bans were completely justified and I would ban you again in any given previous situation.


such a badass
come on leave your pride aside and analyze the situation
I'm still waiting for you guys to apologize :-)
<3


tutz   Brasil. Feb 24 2012 09:08. Posts 2140

whats up Raidern you asked me to post some arguments, I posted a bunch of things and made a pretty clear accusation in the end and sunddenly you dont have anything to say?

saying I'm sorry is not gonna make you lose your mod powers come on


Joeingram1   United States. Feb 24 2012 11:04. Posts 943

lol dogmeat


don't worry man when i see you, i let you suck my dick, i can tell you reallly want to. taking the time out of your day every single day to look at my pics, edit my pics, stalk all my comments and blog posts, reply to them... thats some true love and should be rewarded


where do i get the hat you took the time out to photoshop on me in that pic

 Last edit: 24/02/2012 11:06

Ket    United Kingdom. Feb 24 2012 11:25. Posts 8665


Garfed   Malta. Feb 24 2012 11:56. Posts 4818


  On February 24 2012 08:03 tutz wrote:
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such a badass
come on leave your pride aside and analyze the situation
I'm still waiting for you guys to apologize :-)
<3




  On February 24 2012 08:08 tutz wrote:
whats up Raidern you asked me to post some arguments, I posted a bunch of things and made a pretty clear accusation in the end and sunddenly you dont have anything to say?

saying I'm sorry is not gonna make you lose your mod powers come on


Stop provoking, I will say it once more: you are not going to get any apologies as all bans were justified and 100% deserved. You are only not perm-banned because I said you deserve (yet another) last chance. Don't make me regret that decision.

Listing user opinions is not an argument as well.


tutz   Brasil. Feb 24 2012 12:04. Posts 2140


  On February 24 2012 10:56 Defrag wrote:
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  On February 24 2012 08:08 tutz wrote:
whats up Raidern you asked me to post some arguments, I posted a bunch of things and made a pretty clear accusation in the end and sunddenly you dont have anything to say?

saying I'm sorry is not gonna make you lose your mod powers come on


Stop provoking, I will say it once more: you are not going to get any apologies as all bans were justified and 100% deserved. You are only not perm-banned because I said you deserve (yet another) last chance. Don't make me regret that decision.

Listing user opinions is not an argument as well.



so basically shut up or I will perm-ban you right?


RiKD    United States. Feb 24 2012 12:26. Posts 9283

tutz, i do not know if you are fishing for compliments or what. i do not care. personally, i find you annoying at times but definitely like you. i have no idea of the story of why you were banned or when but if naz banned you i do not think you have much of an argument here. personally, i think the mods do a pretty damn good job. you can say i'm biased b/c i'm a greenstar but they have closed stupid threads of mine in the past, deleted poor derails, and definitely improve the quality of this site.

As others have said, the reason is mostly black friday/state of the market. Personally, I have not even played a hand of poker since Black Friday. I have been around the block irt poker so on occasion will chime in on more general stuff if I feel I can add some value but I am a lot more busy now and the traffic is a lot less now so I just check up here and there to see how LP is doing. A lot of it is trolling or whining or stuff I am just not that interested in.

The second thing is I think not only are a lot of people not playing as much poker anymore, a lot of the core group are just growing up and are doing other things besides posting on the internet. When we were all young pups and poker was booming it was a great place to share ideas, kinda grow as poker players together b/c back then everyone sucked and didn't know anything. Now, most people are really fucking good and know just about everything and if you don't it is pretty easy to find out how to get there or close.

I don't know if I have any solutions. To be honest, it is tough for online forums to beat a lot of things in life in the competition for time. If general threads start popping up that tickle my fancy I'll probably start popping up and tickling my fancy. Until then, if any LPers are ever in the NYC, Philly, Bmore area and want to setup a meet up or grab some drinks or something I'd be down.

LP 4 life,

RiKD


uiCk   Canada. Feb 24 2012 13:17. Posts 3521


  On February 24 2012 11:04 tutz wrote:
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so basically shut up or I will perm-ban you right?


Yes who da fuck cares, is LP that important to you that you need to go on moral crusade? You need to instil some kind of moral and value system and to question the "justness" of the community's authority?
i understand your bans and i think most people do too.
People who find themselves funny, are always bannable IMO.

I wish one of your guys had children if I could kick them in the fucking head or stomp on their testicles so you can feel my pain because thats the pain I have waking up everyday -- Mike Tyson 

Raidern   Brasil. Feb 24 2012 13:42. Posts 4243

Im done rreplying to you, tutz. People defending you is not an argument for what youve done, im sorry if you fail to understand that. I consider that you hurt lps interests when you derail a legit thread started by a newcomer with some joke. I banned you because your history on the site, not becuase of that single post. So yea im tired of your whiny posts and i dont care if you dont get that, keep complaining about it.

im a regular at nl5 

jeffv8x_-_16   Belgium. Feb 24 2012 13:49. Posts 2835


  On February 24 2012 12:42 Raidern wrote:
Im done rreplying to you, tutz. People defending you is not an argument for what youve done, im sorry if you fail to understand that. I consider that you hurt lps interests when you derail a legit thread started by a newcomer with some joke. I banned you because your history on the site, not becuase of that single post. So yea im tired of your whiny posts and i dont care if you dont get that, keep complaining about it.



After he was banned the first time he shoud've known better then to make the same kind of posts again imo.

how can u shove the river, he cant possibly call with worse -TalentedTom 

casinocasino   Canada. Feb 27 2012 06:28. Posts 3347

Maybe you the mods should objectively state what the person did wrong after getting banned..


casinocasino   Canada. Feb 27 2012 06:28. Posts 3347

also going to post some more HH


 



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