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Paying to see! by NewbSaibot, May 02


So I decided to embark on a little experiment in curiosity, exploring villains' true range. I frequently get tilted at the situations I encounter, and feel I often have no idea wtf villain has. The only times I get to see are when we are stacking off or other typical showdown scenario's. But this has not been enough for me. I really really wanted to know what cards people are playing. So I gave myself a superuser account and simply elected to check/call all rivers if I had the nuts. If I was an obvious dog well then I folded when appropriate.

What I did was play a 0% AG postflop game. The idea here was using the best hand as insurance to see frequent showdowns. Forget about EV or making money, I need information. No this was not spewy tilt calls like "zomg you hit the flush, CALL". If I had quad aces I was checking flop/turn/river just so I could see what other people were limping, raising, minraising, and betting with.

Basically any hand I would normally bet, I checked. No matter what. Preflop was a different matter. Preflop I made my standard 5xBB open, because I still need to see what people are calling with preflop to better understand their postflop range. I cant learn anything by getting coolered from the blinds if I limp AA preflop.

Holy stromboli this game is weird, at least at MSNL. I would say there were 2 types of plays that I most frequently encountered

1) Massive slowplaying. I.E. players raising preflop and then checking back AA.
2) Massive bluffing. Players bluffing rivers with air was quite common.

I know most players at MSNL are limping damn near any two preflop, but it's how they play later streets that has me most concerned. It seems like everyone is always trying to do something fancy. I figured most players were always drawing out for a gutshot straight or calling off any pair. Maybe thats how it is perceived when you are the aggressor, otherwise what else can they be doing? But if you just check back every hand suddenly these guys have some sort of playbook.

Anyway, the only thing I really learned was that you absolutely positively must have showdown value at MSNL. While you might not be able to bluff fish out of pots, they sure as hell will try to bluff you.


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Ethical Question... by Svenman87, May 02


A few days ago I thought it would be a pretty good idea to go 1/2's on a 1/4 short keg.

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http://www.whigville.com/graphics/pony-keg.jpg

Anyways it came to about 55 bucks, he paid 20 and I paid 35. No deposit because we know the owners, not sure if that is a brag or a beat.... but anyways......
We end up drinking a lot of vodka before tapping the keg and we probably drink 1/6th of the pony keg between about 4 people.
The person who paid 20 was the guy who was mainly drinking from the pony keg.

We were supposed to get people together last night and try to drink this.
I didn't get a call and he didn't pick up his phone
Then I figured I'd call today, I call him today and he has the flu and is sick so obv can't party.

I have the keg in my fridge right now.
How long does one wait until I just say fuck it, I'll pay you your 20 bucks back and get something going by myself?


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Tournament by Jimmit, May 02


Okey, I played a 0.10 rebuy tournament which really gone well in the start. I was top ten for 2 hours maybe, then I was outdrawn of AJ when I've got AK. So then it went out, and I finished at place 37 of 3014. The boring was that I only earned $3.10 for 4h 20min playing. The firstplace was well paid with a pot of $328.

Well, better luck next time.


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Transfer by XeliN, May 02


Looking to move 650 from FT to PS anyone who could help me out it's much appreciated, will send first depending on who.


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Year so far by bober1, May 02


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So here's my graphs on the year so far, minus a few thousand hands on my laptop where im up like 2k. Im so frustrated and i have no idea whats going on anymore. School makes it so i can't play enough, and when i do play i just lose as of late. I definitely feel like im better than most of the people i play against, but i'm starting to wonder. Though when people watch me they say im playing mostly fine. I don't get it and i'm about to quit poker for a while. How do you guys all deal with this crap? Every time i start a session i get sucked out, coolered, or lose a big flip. And then i get angry because it keeps happening. I dont think ive booked a solid win for weeks. Hopefully it turns around soon or I'll need to stop for sure. This is so frustrating after last year where I had a super high win rate the entire time :.


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No comment by LemOn[5thF], May 02


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cake poker is a rigged poker site. by Newblish, May 02


Either cake is rigged or nobody gets worse bad beats/coolers than i do. If you think you do - please exit this page and go away. Nobody gets bad beats worse than i do - that is a fact.

I just got it in good with 95% equity 3 times in a row and lost. That my friends is impossible unless the poker site is fixed. There is no explanation whatsoever otherwise. Not only that, but i would be flopping godly hands only to have them lose to a more godly hand. What is worse is that this was once again when i tried to take a Nl200 shot HU. As usual, i play just fine and lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose lose. I refuse to play on this piece of worthless fucking shit of a poker site ever again. PERIOD.

I have never been so sure in my mind that a poker site is rigged. Its impossible to run as bad as i did. I might even ask for playersonly(cake affiliate) to give me the hands and explain themselves.. its so obvious.. like impossible not to be rigged. The coolers/bad beats i got today were not possible under any circumstance unless the site is fixed.

This is me venting yes, but i will never play on this fixed poker site ever again.

I am owed upwards of 15k in bad beats/coolers on this site(and ive only sucked out like 2-3 in over 5 months in a big pot). Therefore my conclusion stands - there is no possibility that the percentages have gone the way they have unless the site is rigged.

If anyone does not like my post - go to hell and mind your own business.

Poker is such a stupid game.


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@#$%#$% by ToTehEastSide, May 02


Not many things tilt me. This however, get's me reaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllly close.



I love the guise and denial of liberalism not being socialistic at all. At least this one admits the intent.
If these plans happen in full effect and there is still an America when I'm 64, I will have no pity for you democrats that are old with me as we get pushed to the bottom of the list for medical treatment because it has been deemed we are likely to die soon anyways so we're not really a priority for our now rationed resources that we don't have a choice of. I will be saying, "Reap what you sow u bitches!" then I'm sure I'll be trying to hit em with my cane.
I wish I could instantly ship all these lazy lahlah dreamworld freehandout wanting people here in America that want a "socialist one choice" no competition type health insurance out in trade with the Canadians or many Europeans that say what you hardcore lefties want is ignorant and extreme. While I'm wishing I'd prefer to use TT's trampoline method to solve this problem of our export delivery. I'd use jets for the imports of course. ^_^
We just do not have a clue and our ignorance is maddening. More and more I am reminded of John Carpenters, "In the Mouth of Madness" which is a book on my to-read list as well as a really great older movie.
I won't spoil anything more about that movie except to say the graphics at the end are older cuz obv it's an older movie but nonetheless it is a good movie worth watching.
What a nice little tangent I just went on hmmm


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lol by CrownRoyal, May 02


So all this time LP has been hosting rakeraces on cake and i had no idea. I have $400+ dollars i had no idea about wtf? I didnt even know lp did rakeraces.

guess the next step is to try to win one.


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Once Upon a time by LemOn[5thF], May 02


I had a downswing
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So I started 9 tabling SH NL25 tight 17/15 ABC at NL25 because of the ridiculous VPP Promo at stars. I am selling my soul and practically exchanging rapid learning curve for the sick amount of VPP and for higher profits ( I find no difference between NL25 and NL5 when I table select)

Switched back to 4BB+X, and I have a lil' problem adjusting back to playing nitty, as I can't afford to bluff when I don't follow all the action and go mostly by stats again.
Made many degen bluffs that worked before, but they obviously did not work now as I didn't observe the tendencies of everyone, which is a complete must if you want to go past C/bet at NL25.

I also ran very bad and got my flush busted by FH, K flush by A flush and twice got rivered with some Q8 hands hitting 2 pair.

Than a sick 2 minute heater came and I hit like 4 sets and 2 flushes and got back to where I was when I finished with LAG lolz





P.S. One SICK SOULREAD
Submitted by : LemOn[5thF]

PokerStars Game #27742932457: Holdem No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/05/02 21:36:49 CET [2009/05/02 15:36:49 ET]
Table Margarita IV 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: kaitsa111 ($25 in chips)
Seat 2: joecmeyer ($29.35 in chips)
Seat 3: dewbiene ($8.55 in chips)
Seat 4: Neeger ($35.50 in chips)
Seat 5: DoC.LemOn ($25 in chips)
Seat 6: Karpfenlaus ($12 in chips)
Karpfenlaus: posts small blind $0.10
kaitsa111: posts big blind $0.25

Holecards
Dealt to DoC.LemOn As3d
joecmeyer: folds
dewbiene: calls $0.25
Neeger: folds
DoC.LemOn: raises $1 to $1.25
Karpfenlaus: folds
kaitsa111: folds
dewbiene: calls $1

Flop (Pot : $2.85)

   AhKcAc
dewbiene: folds
DoC.LemOn collected $2.75 from pot
DoC.LemOn: doesnt show hand





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Forum Halp by killaherni, May 02


Im trying to sell tournie dls to LP but when i strat the transaction pokerstars tells me there are not enough funds, is LP broke?




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Semi-epic pic by DustySwedeDude, May 02


Remmember87 is often the voice of reason in our group. Natrually this makes him unpopular. A couple of weeks ago he said something along the lines of me probably getting my ass kicked by 5/10 regs HU. I obviously, in a somewhat drunken state, didn't admit this. So now when I'm having my monthly "beginning of the month getting fucked in the ass by variance"-thingy I decided to just sit on all 5/10 HU tables. Results was as follows:

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I fucking hate HU regs. As most I think I had 8 tables with regs sitting out (I just sat at everything) and two with me sitting alone before "justtransfer" got sick of me and gave me action. This is just sick considering the fact that it's a saturday night.

In other news I need to stop shoving flushdraws/random crap into sets on the turn slightly deep all the time. It's apperently not a winning strategy.


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Tilt and back again by Jimmit, May 02


Okay, to play upon the NL10 my full tilt account was not smart, should probably follow BRM at low levels as some people said. I broked down to $ 6 the day before yesterday.

Today as I thought there was not an idea to save them $ 6 for the account, so I started 5st SNG tournaments. Won one and came second in one, and it was 45mans so now my bonus-bankroll is $ 28.80 instead.

Maybe I am a tournament player instead of cashgame? Well, I will try it again.


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Rate Music Production? by Sliggy, May 02


hi yall. can i get some feedback on my production? ie the mix, everything clear etc.
plz don't rate the actual song. well ya can if ya want but that's not what im asking for
just a short 50 second clip (incomplete song)

NOTE: i know it's quiet. volume comes up during mastering.
NOTE 2: since this post I've edited the guitar fuzz off the intro (just before the staccato hits come in) and turned the drums down slightly.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CR3P1SB4


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april and Mayplans by remember87, May 02


The last couple of days I have been out so much I havnt had time to write a update. Its been "valborg" so every student in uppsala goes nuts and party a lot the wheaters been excellent too so now I´m a small scrimp

As for poker and april its been pretty bad in everyway. I dont know why, but I played less then 3000 hands (which is kind of a new record for me). The last day I also tilted a bit (and played bad and so on) so I lost a lot and therefor ended april down 4BI (800$, only played NL200).


I dont know how poker goes in May. I hope I can find time to play but Im not shure at all. I guess I have to make time for it if I shall have the slightest chance of going to vegas this summer.


Things that can ruin poker in May:

First of all Im going to play in a musical called "Christina von Duvemåla".. its gonna be like 4-5 concerts in the middle of May and I guess it will take some time since the first rehearsal is in next week so its pretty close to the actual concerts..
Here is my favourite song from the musical:


Im really looking forward to this!

Second I have to study alot for the exam in the beginning of june. Have been pretty lazy this semester...
Third: The wheather is always nice in May which is never good for the motivation...

Guess I have to move in at Dustys so he can motivate me to play more I am alreay longing for next semester where I am taking a break from law school to study some economy courses and finally get in a lot of hands


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3 monitor setup? by lachlan, May 02


wanted to ask: do you think it's useful or worth having a 3 monitor setup? have 2 monitors at the moment and i use the alternative one a lot more than i thought i would. which makes me wonder if 3 would be even better, but at the same time it could be a waste of money/desk space. input from anyone with 3 monitors would be appreciated.

(i'd only use the other monitors for other stuff like browsing and general use, not using them to play poker)

Example of a 3 monitor setup (credit: google images)
http://nerdbusiness.com/articles/nerd-office-setups/img/alkx3d.jpg

also wrote my own song in a program called FL studio, same thing i used to attempt a remix in my last blog post. but its kinda shitty at the moment, will probably upload it once i make it sound better


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New PC by PplusAD, May 02


Well i am currently undecided.

My current system was build in July 2005 and therefore is almost 4 years old.

Athlon XP 3000+
1GB ram DDR 333
Geforce 7600GT 256mb ( did upgrade in 2007 from the original radeon9800pro)
80GB Seagate IDE + 250GB USB HDD
Asus Mainboard
Asus Tower 360w power supply

So i can run

FTPoker 12 tables + HEM on it without problems
Starcraft without problems
UT 2004 with 120fps average in 1650x1050 4x AA highest details

I dont have time for nerding single player games anyway since i have University+Poker+MMA

So my new PC shall meet the following requirements

Can play Starcraft 2
Can play some nice Multiplayer Shooter for eaz fragging when i dont feel like playing Poker or doing MMA
Can play FTP 12 tables + Hem smoothly.

This is the system i favour right now

Core 2 Duo E7400, 2x2.8Ghz,
4096 MB DDR2 800,
500GB SATA
Asus Mainboard
Thermalke Soprano Tower + 550w Be quiet power supply
Geforce 260GTX 896mb 216s
Vista 64bit ( I was told its necessary to have 64 bit windows since 32bit Versions only supply full use of ~ 3500 ram ?)

This all together would cost me 704€ ( 620€ the computer + 84€ the Windows Vista64 premium)+ no shipping fee

Havent found anything better for 620€ so far.


Pokerwise = havent played the last 10 days or so
fuck university >-<


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Most un-epic photo ever by DustySwedeDude, May 02





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KK is doomed goddammit by louhi, May 02


I got 8 times KK in the last 900 hands, lost 7 times against AA and won once against AA when rivered quads.

I would really like to know how often does this shit happen.


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