Jelle   Belgium. Aug 16 2011 08:26. Posts 3476
Also about the point Vanilladutch made about compensations; his opinion is that the multiaccounting player should reimburse only the theoretical amount that the cheat allowed him to gain, not the amount that he gained by simply playing/being better/getting luckier.
I think it could also be argued that, in order to have a decent disinsentive for cheating, the punishment should be big enough so that it isn't profitable to do including all those times you don't fuck up and get caught. In other words, if jungleman multiaccounts vs player A and beats him for $100,000, it might not be all that crazy if he owes that player $100,000 and another $200,000 to the community as a whole.
Another thing that I don't really get is how it's suddenly so "decided" that multiaccounting makes you the devil. Didn't people just use to not care about it? All of a sudden it's the same as cheating? Maybe the player in question didn't have the same drastic change in morals as the rest of the community? For that reason, I don't hate on jungleman because he played on someone else's account but I do think he's pathetic for lying about it and trying to cover it up. As soon as he did that, he basicly says "yeah I think it's cheating too but I did it anyway then lied to ur face about it".
But yeah the community invented this set of rules that basicly benefits members of it and screws everybody else over. Multiaccounting is immoral, PTR is fine, HEM is fine, The latter 2 could easily be seen as cheating but only the fish are victims of them so everybody is OK with it.
GroT
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 16 2011 10:11. Posts 6540
yea i will if he flies to aus, or next time im in US.
The thread getting closed with out ftp logs or even details about his logs revealed kinda stinks. My gut instants really make me think ghosting happend.
W/e whats done is done.
Also this whole thing makes me really upset at the poker community in general. Some of you might remember me making a fuss about the elky cheating incident and me getting banned for it, well from that point of view, you'll prob realise what type of person i am. Always abided by the rules and always will.
Thinking of quitting poker at the end of the year. blehhhhhh. Its not like I can beat the nosebleeds anyway, especially with all this new shadiness that I wasn't aware of.
Anyways gna think some things through next couple of days.
The Last Laugh.
Last edit: 16/08/2011 10:17
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RiKD   United States. Aug 16 2011 13:24. Posts 8548
if you want to get to the bottom of this here is my advice wobbly:
-find out who wcgrider was living w/ over this period of time
-consult hu sickos who played all of those guys around that period of time.
-when you get it narrowed down to ppl who definitely multi-accounted discuss fair reparations with them.
-if they don't take you seriously take a vacation to the US, buy a baseball bat and have a meeting w/ multi-accounters' sports cars that they bought w/ your money and see if they take you seriously. mouse clicking hand is next.
if you aren't willing to play homerun derby with mouse clicking hands just re-read pooruser's, d_zoo's and rekrul's posts in the thread and move on.
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 16 2011 15:01. Posts 6540
On August 16 2011 12:24 RiKD wrote:
if you want to get to the bottom of this here is my advice wobbly:
-find out who wcgrider was living w/ over this period of time
-consult hu sickos who played all of those guys around that period of time.
-when you get it narrowed down to ppl who definitely multi-accounted discuss fair reparations with them.
-if they don't take you seriously take a vacation to the US, buy a baseball bat and have a meeting w/ multi-accounters' sports cars that they bought w/ your money and see if they take you seriously. mouse clicking hand is next.
if you aren't willing to play homerun derby with mouse clicking hands just re-read pooruser's, d_zoo's and rekrul's posts in the thread and move on.
The Last Laugh.
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 16 2011 15:43. Posts 4742
Hey, if you're quitting, can I have your notes, reads on people and your hand histories xD
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kingpowa   France. Aug 16 2011 17:40. Posts 1525
On August 16 2011 16:08 anheway wrote:
Had a little dilemma whether to put it here or in Girah thread ...
sorry for shitty english.
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Joe   Czech Republic. Aug 16 2011 20:04. Posts 5987
nothing new found one in two days, this is slowing down ;/
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Daut   United States. Aug 17 2011 23:31. Posts 8955
my buddy who has kept up with the thread told me he thinks jungleman is 100% autistic and that jungleman lied during his original interview because he thinks he needs to lie sometimes as well as tell the truth for balance. my friend was not joking when he told me this LOL
NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut
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whamm!   Albania. Aug 17 2011 23:51. Posts 11625
jungleman talks like a teenage girl from the valley. i think that homo thing should be looked into...
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Minsk   United States. Aug 18 2011 00:37. Posts 1558
and that jungleman lied during his original interview because he thinks he needs to lie sometimes as well as tell the truth for balance
lmao
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 18 2011 02:18. Posts 4742
That actually makes sense, I try and talk about mundane trivial day to day things "on purpose" to "fit" in, even though I would never talk or ask about those kinda stuff if I had likeminded people around me lol.
Lie for balance, what an awesome idea lol
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wobbly_au   Australia. Aug 18 2011 02:35. Posts 6540
lol no way. jungle is getting off way too easy using this autistic excuse.
hes just a selffish asshole who can differentiate right from wrong.
The Last Laugh.
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Mariuslol   Norway. Aug 18 2011 02:37. Posts 4742
omg, I was gonna make a joke about why there's still no kangaroo, and I happened to look at my own avatar!!
ffs... Is that a donkey??
!!!!!!!!!!
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johnmagi   Norway. Aug 18 2011 18:16. Posts 1424
On August 18 2011 01:37 Mariuslol wrote:
omg, I was gonna make a joke about why there's still no kangaroo, and I happened to look at my own avatar!!
ffs... Is that a donkey??
!!!!!!!!!!
Dont act like you are all surprised and stuff, a donkey for the donkey is only fair
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Baalim   Mexico. Aug 19 2011 03:08. Posts 34250
On August 18 2011 01:35 wobbly_au wrote:
lol no way. jungle is getting off way too easy using this autistic excuse.
hes just a selffish asshole who can differentiate right from wrong.
he definitelly does and he might have asperbergs if he payed 100k life coach but you cant deny that it doesnt make sense for a multi-millionare and a poker genius to get involved in petty tiny scams
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BILAT_POWER!!!   Philippines. Aug 19 2011 03:48. Posts 1525