Roommate annoyance - Page 2

sweet having a female roomie, sucks if she's ugly/annoying/taken

Sounds stressful, could I suggest put on some Hitchens and convert her right away?

^She'll never convert, ever, it's pointless for me to try. But her religion is rarely annoying since we just don't talk bout it and she's not one of those nuts who thinks science is wrong because a 2k yr old book says so. We get in more disagreements over the fact that she thinks GW Bush was a better president then Clinton and that she still thinks the Iraqi invasion was a good idea and was successful which is the most mindbogglingly misinformed statement I think a person can make about politics since 2002.

Its really not as stressful as my whine makes it out to be and living here is overall probably the best place i've lived. I mean i live for half rent, get a really good dinner cooked for me 7 days a week, 98% of the time (cuz i keep my mouth shut or work my ass off to stay on neutral topics) there isn't a fight, and her and i have the same taste in tv shows, movies, music, etc. This is just the only thing that's annoying and after 4.5 yrs i snapped for like 12 hrs and ended up writing out this blog whine.

im sorry but if you cant absolutely destroy a christian in an argument then your debating skills must be very poor, seriously it only takes 30 seconds to corner them to a point where they just say "well... i dont know".

"Some parts of the bible are imperfect because there are things in it which were put in there by human error, not god. So religion is imperfect but its a matter of faith" I forever gave up at that point.

EDIT: it's like if you argue w/ an evangelical over the age of the earth. Sure you can absolutely destroy them in no time and have them resort to either making up bullshit facts or saying "god is mysterious", but you didn't actually convert them or change their mind about anything. Like William Lane Craig, he has debated every major atheist personality since Dawkins and always spouts the exact same philosophical and scientific bullshit even though the arguments have been slaughtered a million times over, he is in his nice little fantasy box and no argument can break him out of it. Since she acknowledges all of the historical and scientific errors in the bible but still chooses to believe it there's not much I can do but just go umm ok.

people dont just change their minds that easily... not on the spot at least.

Religious people may be converted by rational argument, but they must first learn the way of Bayes.

yo i didn't read comments but imo conversation is practically useless for changing people's minds on anything. it is difficult to have/cite sources, there are social aspects special to the situation that aren't present in ie: essays, it is difficult to create and explain or review complex arguments, etc. Waste of time to argue about such things face-to-face imo. Just change the topic to something neutral or pleasant then smash her that night

you two seem like two peas in a pod

On June 22 2011 19:16 Jhyun88 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2011 19:14 morph1 wrote: you have to beat them in their game... w-e it takes... get your emotions in, yell or beat the shit out of them... or you can just not give a fuck and get some girl roomies and make this blog more interesting "Beat them in their game" is dumb. Don't degrade yourself and just decide not to give a fuck.

wtf ... it's a joke obv

On June 22 2011 21:52 palak wrote: Show nested quote + On June 22 2011 19:49 locoo wrote: if u feel the urge to whine here then as Stroggoz said u both are probably very emotional in these topics and hate being wrong etc i dont mind being wrong, and this rant has been building for not just the 6 months of being roommates but the 4 yrs before this also. So to me having had 1 rant after 4.5 yrs of annoyance building isn't really being to emotional ..she's not black, she's white

my bad i didn't mean being wrong, what i was trying to say was that you just gotta be patient with people that think differently and don't try to challenge them everytime because it's kind of anoying even if you are right all the time , but yea i guess 4 years of this and just 1 e-rant is stnd

On June 23 2011 01:38 ggplz wrote: people dont just change their minds that easily... not on the spot at least.

yea, this is weird for me, i change my mind on the spot very easily if presented with enough evidence/facts, most people seem to do it as well except for religion and a couple other topics

i can understand the bitch

On June 23 2011 21:21 locoo wrote: Show nested quote + On June 23 2011 01:38 ggplz wrote: people dont just change their minds that easily... not on the spot at least. yea, this is weird for me, i change my mind on the spot very easily if presented with enough evidence/facts, most people seem to do it as well except for religion and a couple other topics

in my experience it's always cuz her and ppl that won't change their mind despite being wrong on sciency things is because they have read some bogus studies and follow said studies w/o looking at other ones.

Its difficult to persuade people when you are in a confrontation with them. The best you can hope for is to persuade any neutral audience that may be present. Most people can't rationally analyze arguments from an "opponent" except beyond how to destroy those arguments in order to "win" the conflict that is at hand. I can think of a few examples from this forum but I won't go there. If you wanna persuade people you need to think outside the debate box.