WSOP FT RAIL!

for the record I don't see any update but Duhamel has ~188k stack vs Racener's 32k stack for the HU, so he's quite favorite, also implying that he's the better player, Racener played like a HUGE NIT all day and somehow managed to make it there

That is so awesome man, congrats on the monster score.

I feel bad now that I was cheering for Cheong over the stream

Crazy when you have so much $ on the lien and not playing. That'd be exciting as hell.

has ~188k stack vs Racener's 32k stack for the HU, ---> *1000

gl jme suis endormi quand yont arreté le stream pour 30 minute a cause du changement dheure (WTF?!) fak jai vu jusqu'à la main quand Dolan s'est fait éliminé.

yavait lair de se faire dominer au début mais bon... Stait nice pis chu vraiment content qui ait (pratiquement) gagné.

def is a monster score, must feel nuts :D

thats so sick

The result so far is really bad, it's a fail for poker if Duhamel winns - he's a terrible player (IMO) and certainly not a good representative for poker (NOTE: IMO). *sigh*

Also the rich get richer.

On November 07 2010 12:00 Samashki wrote: The result so far is really bad, it's a fail for poker if Duhamel winns - he's a terrible player (IMO) and certainly not a good representative for poker (NOTE: IMO). *sigh*

yeah he's so bad except he was probably the best player at the table with cheong being 2nd imo, I heard Jarvis was a really good player too but he was shortstack and kinda misplayed his stack size

and a big lol @ you if you thought mizrachi was the best player on there

wow, so unreal.

should be np given the lead, glgl!

that would be so sick man and such a ridiculous score for 5%

I understand ur super stoked that u got a fat score off him, but are you really gonna try and make out like Mizrachi (along with Cheong) werent the best players at the table?

How much did you cheer when he put all his money in drawing to like 10 outs vs Affleck and got there?

On November 07 2010 12:00 Samashki wrote: The result so far is really bad, it's a fail for poker if Duhamel winns - he's a terrible player (IMO) and certainly not a good representative for poker (NOTE: IMO). *sigh*

i mean i kinda agree but moreso because hes sucha good player....i dont think it matters as much as it used to though.

GLGL fayth grats on the sick score

i watched most of the final table and i agree, cheong and duhamel played amazing.

great to watch too some unreal beats lol.

On November 07 2010 12:20 byrnesam wrote: I understand ur super stoked that u got a fat score off him, but are you really gonna try and make out like Mizrachi (along with Cheong) werent the best players at the table? How much did you cheer when he put all his money in drawing to like 10 outs vs Affleck and got there?

I believe most players who believe mizrachi played better than duhamel at the FT is probably not so good at poker, I myself was thinking mizrachi wasn't that bad (even tho not as good as cheong or duhamel)... giggy firmly told me mizrachi was one of the weak spot at the table and no offense but I'll take his opinion about other players more than you byrnesam, also Cheong after eliminated by Duhamel said he would come and rail john with us cuz he's totally rooting for him, he agrees that he was better than mizrachi obv

mizrachi isn't a BAD player, but he's not as good as duhamel.... yeah his hand vs Matt Affleck was kind of a blunder, but wtf if affleck had been on that table he probably would have been the best player on there, Duhamel doesn't play perfect, nobody does but judging him over 1 single hand, that's pretty fuckin stupid

also affleck is known to be capable of doing big bluffs

weee go fayth expert swapper

I didn't see quite as much as you Fayth obviously, but I absolutely loved Cheong's play at the final table, the amount of walks he got and the folds to his 3/4bets was just sick... As I said I didn't see as much as you, I could be wrong but I believe he was the toughest player at the table, with Duhamel second. (Canada biased unfortunately fayth=])

grinder? - GTFO

Duhamel only has 54% of his action, but who cares I'm guessing he has 100% of his sponsership action - lol=]

sick score for u both, gg

On November 07 2010 12:31 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 12:20 byrnesam wrote: I understand ur super stoked that u got a fat score off him, but are you really gonna try and make out like Mizrachi (along with Cheong) werent the best players at the table? How much did you cheer when he put all his money in drawing to like 10 outs vs Affleck and got there? I believe most players who believe mizrachi played better than duhamel at the FT is probably not so good at poker, I myself was thinking mizrachi wasn't that bad (even tho not as good as cheong or duhamel)... giggy firmly told me mizrachi was one of the weak spot at the table and no offense but I'll take his opinion about other players more than you byrnesam, also Cheong after eliminated by Duhamel said he would come and rail john with us cuz he's totally rooting for him, he agrees that he was better than mizrachi obv mizrachi isn't a BAD player, but he's not as good as duhamel.... yeah his hand vs Matt Affleck was kind of a blunder, but wtf if affleck had been on that table he probably would have been the best player on there, Duhamel doesn't play perfect, nobody does but judging him over 1 single hand, that's pretty fuckin stupid

and yet you firmly believe that the guy you have a piece of (and all your fellow railbirds who have a piece concur) that he is like the best player at the table and the guy with >$10,000,000 tourney winnings and $50k 8-game champion is not

l o l

On November 07 2010 13:31 KeyleK_uk wrote: I didn't see quite as much as you Fayth obviously, but I absolutely loved Cheong's play at the final table, the amount of walks he got and the folds to his 3/4bets was just sick... As I said I didn't see as much as you, I could be wrong but I believe he was the toughest player at the table, with Duhamel second. (Canada biased unfortunately fayth=]) grinder? - GTFO Duhamel only has 54% of his action, but who cares I'm guessing he has 100% of his sponsership action - lol=]

obv 100% of the sponsorship haha, and the sponsors plays such a huge role in that, man it's so insane, can't believe he made it there

On November 07 2010 13:54 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 12:31 Fayth wrote:   On November 07 2010 12:20 byrnesam wrote: I understand ur super stoked that u got a fat score off him, but are you really gonna try and make out like Mizrachi (along with Cheong) werent the best players at the table? How much did you cheer when he put all his money in drawing to like 10 outs vs Affleck and got there? I believe most players who believe mizrachi played better than duhamel at the FT is probably not so good at poker, I myself was thinking mizrachi wasn't that bad (even tho not as good as cheong or duhamel)... giggy firmly told me mizrachi was one of the weak spot at the table and no offense but I'll take his opinion about other players more than you byrnesam, also Cheong after eliminated by Duhamel said he would come and rail john with us cuz he's totally rooting for him, he agrees that he was better than mizrachi obv mizrachi isn't a BAD player, but he's not as good as duhamel.... yeah his hand vs Matt Affleck was kind of a blunder, but wtf if affleck had been on that table he probably would have been the best player on there, Duhamel doesn't play perfect, nobody does but judging him over 1 single hand, that's pretty fuckin stupid and yet you firmly believe that the guy you have a piece of (and all your fellow railbirds who have a piece concur) that he is like the best player at the table and the guy with >$10,000,000 tourney winnings and $50k 8-game champion is not l o l

believe the media all you want dood, ask all the good poker players out there, I doubt even 10% of them are going to say mizrachi was the best player at the table :/

and i mean wtf byrne, mizrachi is out and duhamel is still in, duhamel didn't run good at all yesterday, he ran AK into AA to begin the day then he lost AK vs AQ vs racener's all in and then managed to get back in the game by winning a flip, i mean jesus come on it's pretty fuckin clear duhamel + cheong raped this table, it's too bad that cheong went overboard with his 6bet bluff all in and got eliminated 3rd, cuz that would have been a pretty nice HU final

On November 07 2010 13:59 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 13:54 byrnesam wrote:   On November 07 2010 12:31 Fayth wrote:   On November 07 2010 12:20 byrnesam wrote: I understand ur super stoked that u got a fat score off him, but are you really gonna try and make out like Mizrachi (along with Cheong) werent the best players at the table? How much did you cheer when he put all his money in drawing to like 10 outs vs Affleck and got there? I believe most players who believe mizrachi played better than duhamel at the FT is probably not so good at poker, I myself was thinking mizrachi wasn't that bad (even tho not as good as cheong or duhamel)... giggy firmly told me mizrachi was one of the weak spot at the table and no offense but I'll take his opinion about other players more than you byrnesam, also Cheong after eliminated by Duhamel said he would come and rail john with us cuz he's totally rooting for him, he agrees that he was better than mizrachi obv mizrachi isn't a BAD player, but he's not as good as duhamel.... yeah his hand vs Matt Affleck was kind of a blunder, but wtf if affleck had been on that table he probably would have been the best player on there, Duhamel doesn't play perfect, nobody does but judging him over 1 single hand, that's pretty fuckin stupid and yet you firmly believe that the guy you have a piece of (and all your fellow railbirds who have a piece concur) that he is like the best player at the table and the guy with >$10,000,000 tourney winnings and $50k 8-game champion is not l o l believe the media all you want dood, ask all the good poker players out there, I doubt even 10% of them are going to say mizrachi was the best player at the table :/

I dont see what the media has to do with results - Mizrachi isnt the one working off promotion of short term results. Im sure all of Dennis Phillips supporters thought he was the best player at the final table and that he played great when he was there.

Anyway, enjoy your moment. Hope Duhamel banks a lot off sponsorship over the next few years. Im going to go out on a limb and say that Mizrachi will continue his tournament success over the next few years, and people will remember his 2010 WSOP accomplishments long after Duhamel has made his appearances on HSP/PAD/Big Game, lost a few hundred thousand, busted next years main event and faded into obscurity.

Also, he looks like a weasel.

On November 07 2010 14:03 Fayth wrote: and i mean wtf byrne, mizrachi is out and duhamel is still in, duhamel didn't run good at all yesterday, he ran AK into AA to begin the day then he lost AK vs AQ vs racener's all in and then managed to get back in the game by winning a flip, i mean jesus come on it's pretty fuckin clear duhamel + cheong raped this table, it's too bad that cheong went overboard with his 6bet bluff all in and got eliminated 3rd, cuz that would have been a pretty nice HU final

a great accomplishment when Mizrachi started the FT with 14.5m and Duhamel had 66m

DrGiggy has 5% too... What % does Duhamel have of himself?

Or are you DrGiggy? :D

On November 07 2010 14:26 LemOn[5thF] wrote: DrGiggy has 5% too... What % does Duhamel have of himself? Or are you DrGiggy? :D

im not giggy obv lol, we are 8 players with each 5% of him, 2 got 2.5% and one random friend of john managed to buy 1% for 100$ lol

On November 07 2010 14:15 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 13:59 Fayth wrote:   On November 07 2010 13:54 byrnesam wrote:   On November 07 2010 12:31 Fayth wrote:   On November 07 2010 12:20 byrnesam wrote: I understand ur super stoked that u got a fat score off him, but are you really gonna try and make out like Mizrachi (along with Cheong) werent the best players at the table? How much did you cheer when he put all his money in drawing to like 10 outs vs Affleck and got there? I believe most players who believe mizrachi played better than duhamel at the FT is probably not so good at poker, I myself was thinking mizrachi wasn't that bad (even tho not as good as cheong or duhamel)... giggy firmly told me mizrachi was one of the weak spot at the table and no offense but I'll take his opinion about other players more than you byrnesam, also Cheong after eliminated by Duhamel said he would come and rail john with us cuz he's totally rooting for him, he agrees that he was better than mizrachi obv mizrachi isn't a BAD player, but he's not as good as duhamel.... yeah his hand vs Matt Affleck was kind of a blunder, but wtf if affleck had been on that table he probably would have been the best player on there, Duhamel doesn't play perfect, nobody does but judging him over 1 single hand, that's pretty fuckin stupid and yet you firmly believe that the guy you have a piece of (and all your fellow railbirds who have a piece concur) that he is like the best player at the table and the guy with >$10,000,000 tourney winnings and $50k 8-game champion is not l o l believe the media all you want dood, ask all the good poker players out there, I doubt even 10% of them are going to say mizrachi was the best player at the table :/ I dont see what the media has to do with results - Mizrachi isnt the one working off promotion of short term results. Im sure all of Dennis Phillips supporters thought he was the best player at the final table and that he played great when he was there. Anyway, enjoy your moment. Hope Duhamel banks a lot off sponsorship over the next few years. Im going to go out on a limb and say that Mizrachi will continue his tournament success over the next few years, and people will remember his 2010 WSOP accomplishments long after Duhamel has made his appearances on HSP/PAD/Big Game, lost a few hundred thousand, busted next years main event and faded into obscurity. Also, he looks like a weasel.

lol yeah ok mizrachi ran good in a few big tournaments so he's automatically much better than john who has probably played 10 times more hands and just grinded his bankroll up, you seriously overestimate him cuz of his exposure, I'm basing my thoughts out of how they play their hands, you on the other hand cannot do that cuz u're not quite at that level

Grats fayth!

Exposure... lol...he won the 50k 8-game and made 2 other final tables as well as the ME FT at this years WSOP.

Im sure youre basing it ONLY on how Duhamel has played his hands, it probably has nothing to do with the 5% and him being your friend

Was giving him a rimjob a stipulation of getting the 5%?

On November 07 2010 14:57 byrnesam wrote: Exposure... lol...he won the 50k 8-game and made 2 other final tables as well as the ME FT at this years WSOP. Im sure youre basing it ONLY on how Duhamel has played his hands, it probably has nothing to do with the 5% and him being your friend Was giving him a rimjob a stipulation of getting the 5%?

dude what the fuck do you know, you're a microstakes player, are you gonna say hellmuth is better than mizrachi or duhamel cuz he has 11 fucking bracelets? you're just like every other casual out there who has no clue about poker trying to argue with me, this is really annoying, I'm not even sure why I'm responding to your stupid comments

i've played a fair amount with the grinder in live NLHE tourneys... and im gunna have to agree w/ fayth. he knows how to beat up on fish but im pretty sure competent regs or better will win vs him. im sure he has some strong points in his game that i didn't see... but his weak points are pretty obvious

he has impressive stats but wtf we all know about variance. I know nothing about his abilities in any other game keep in mind only talking about NLHE

also congrats fayth thats fkn awesome.. sickest sweat ever must be so much fun

ur an unreal lucksack tho holycrap

yeah I mean clearly I'm not implying duhamel is better at other games... only NLHE lol he prob has literally 0 experience in other forms of poker

On November 07 2010 15:11 FrinkX wrote: also congrats fayth thats fkn awesome.. sickest sweat ever must be so much fun ur an unreal lucksack tho holycrap

hahahaha agreed, it feels kinda unreal, such a sick swap :D

he swapped with so many people so he's not only 1 luckbox, he makes 11 other people lucksacks ;D

lol, I know enough that Mizrachis results dwarf Duhamels (and always will)

Ironically, it is the likes of me - the microstakes railbird no clue fan boy who you would want supporting the potential main event champion.
Duhamel is just another pointless blip on the list of WSOP ME champions.

If you wanted to rank him with the most exciting main event champions he would be in there with Peter Eastgate and Jerry Yang.

At least everyone will remember him as the kid who made the horrendous play against Affleck to get to the FT.

Enjoy your nerdy circle jerk, you all seem like douche bags.

Byrnesam
This!
Duhamel is no more than an avg 2/4NL 1BB/100 reg from what I remember is just playing cards and sometimes went to stupid tilty shit like push 33 pf to a 3bet.

enjoy your job

On November 07 2010 15:22 okyougosu wrote: Byrnesam This! Duhamel is no more than an avg 2/4NL 1BB/100 reg from what I remember is just playing cards and sometimes went to stupid tilty shit like push 33 pf to a 3bet.

yeah except he beats 5/10 and 10/20 afaik... but whatever.. just watch when we see holecards on this FT how duhamel played better than mizrachi

http://www.pokertableratings.com/party-player-search/johnduhamel
Didnt see wsop coverage or any other his perfomances
You got pretty much lucky spot along with him though
congratz

On November 07 2010 15:24 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 15:22 okyougosu wrote: Byrnesam This! Duhamel is no more than an avg 2/4NL 1BB/100 reg from what I remember is just playing cards and sometimes went to stupid tilty shit like push 33 pf to a 3bet. yeah except he beats 5/10 and 10/20 afaik... but whatever.. just watch when we see holecards on this FT how duhamel played better than mizrachi

hes probably just running super good, you know... variance.

also byrnesam you have absolutely no idea how massive the MTT variance can be, mizrachi would have played this exact same way all his life and be break even or barely up or even stuck but instead he luckboxed a few hands and is up 10millions

duhamel grinded his way up in cash games online to several hundreds of thousands, it really isn't even close

I'm sure we would put takechip besides mizrachi and the average random microstake player would say OOH MIZRACHI IS MUCH BETTER when it's pretty fucking obvious to any pro poker player that takechip >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mizrachi.... yet mizrachi has won more money

hello MTT variance

On November 07 2010 15:27 Fayth wrote: also byrnesam you have absolutely no idea how massive the MTT variance can be, mizrachi would have played this exact same way all his life and be break even or barely up or even stuck but instead he luckboxed a few hands and is up 10millions duhamel grinded his way up in cash games online to several hundreds of thousands, it really isn't even close I'm sure we would put takechip besides mizrachi and the average random microstake player would say OOH MIZRACHI IS MUCH BETTER when it's pretty fucking obvious to any pro poker player that takechip >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mizrachi.... yet mizrachi has won more money hello MTT variance

so, what are grinders cash game results?

prob somewhere close to 0

also I'm prob better than mizrachi, but what do I know, I'm not a superstar and I dont have 10m in tournament winnings

lol sam wtf never seen u act like this

grats fayth

What are you talking about sam is one of the sickest trolls at LP. He just picks his spots.

fayth is so easily trollable its cute

On November 07 2010 16:50 EvilSky wrote: fayth is so easily trollable its cute

he was pretty serious though so it doesn't matter lol

Define better

54% of himself huh?

so is this one of those "please no hit n run" kinda deals ?

grats on score!

fayth expert swapper

I am so happy he's gonna win this, btw what is Jonathan nickname online?

Did you see him at tout le monde en parle, they invited him lol.

On November 07 2010 17:08 CamilaPunt wrote: 54% of himself huh? so is this one of those "please no hit n run" kinda deals ? grats on score!

naw it's pretty legit we (swappers) even had meetings with him and his manager, he's a stand up guy I was never really worried about that

--- Nuked ---

duhamel is takechip? sick...

agree that he > mizrachi
and fayth > mizrachi

I hope bynresam is leveling, because duhamel is clearly a much better player.

On November 07 2010 19:38 Exhilarate wrote: duhamel is takechip? sick... agree that he > mizrachi and fayth > mizrachi

Reading comprehension fail.

On November 07 2010 18:33 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On November 07 2010 17:08 CamilaPunt wrote: 54% of himself huh? so is this one of those "please no hit n run" kinda deals ? grats on score! naw it's pretty legit we (swappers) even had meetings with him and his manager, he's a stand up guy I was never really worried about that

If 11 people swapped with him and he doesn't cough up the monies.. that's too many people to dodge.

Everyones entitled to their opinion but I mean, why would you go shit on someones parade? This is Kanye level shit...

congrats on 5% fayth

byrnesam must be trolling

if ur gonna say mizr > duhamel because of results then you must agree hellmuth > all

On November 07 2010 21:40 player999 wrote: byrnesam must be trolling if ur gonna say mizr > duhamel because of results then you must agree hellmuth > all

Oh common, you CANNOT compare hellmuth's achievements with poker today. It's true that Hellmuth has 11 bracelets but they are from A DIFFERENT TIME. 7 of the 11 bracelets were won before 2001 and 5 of them were won before 1993. Back then poker in general and WSOP in particular was NOTHING like today, fields were much smaler and only a few knew wtf they were doing. Hellmuth is living of passed times and we all know it - don't bring his results into this.

To give you an example in 1989 when Hellmuth won the main event there were ONLY 178 runners - you can NEVER compare a main event win back then with a win nowdays!

if did not understand my post it seems

i probably will catch flack for this, but just going by hunch that I'd rather have mizrachi's action in WSOP ME fields than Duhamel. But Duhamel for most other big buyin MTTs. I think people underestimate the ability to play vs fishes as compared to pure NLHE skill.

edit: oh and grats on the score fayth. too bad we only were able to play like 5 rounds together =[ though i still cant believe you didnt think your jack's weren't 100% good against galfond after he tanked for 11 minutes lool

On November 09 2010 05:33 Raidan wrote: i probably will catch flack for this, but just going by hunch that I'd rather have mizrachi's action in WSOP ME fields than Duhamel. But Duhamel for most other big buyin MTTs. I think people underestimate the ability to play vs fishes as compared to pure NLHE skill. edit: oh and grats on the score fayth. too bad we only were able to play like 5 rounds together =[ though i still cant believe you didnt think your jack's weren't 100% good against galfond after he tanked for 11 minutes lool

So you'd rather take the action of someone who can slaughter fishes than someone who can slaughter fishes and win against better, more competent players? Seems kinda odd

On November 09 2010 05:33 Raidan wrote: i probably will catch flack for this, but just going by hunch that I'd rather have mizrachi's action in WSOP ME fields than Duhamel. But Duhamel for most other big buyin MTTs. I think people underestimate the ability to play vs fishes as compared to pure NLHE skill. edit: oh and grats on the score fayth. too bad we only were able to play like 5 rounds together =[ though i still cant believe you didnt think your jack's weren't 100% good against galfond after he tanked for 11 minutes lool

I was pretty sure my jacks were good obviously I was just a bit shaken by how long he took to act

the ability to play vs fishes is not a part of nlhe skill ?