Troll a cult

Hello

I want to troll a cult. This video inspired me,



1. Join a cult for a few months
2. Laugh in their face
3. Leave and report back

So looking for suggestions on a cult. I'm mentally resiliant but don't want any physical harm to come to me.

looking for ideas on things to do. 100% serious here

what is wrong with you

good idea but what happens if they succeed in brainwashing you?

bst cults to troll are churches imo

I was once in an online satan worship cult, it was cool.
Lots of neat things like: what is god spelled backwards?
Dog
what's devil spelled backwards
lived

then the leader starting saying he had special soul powers where he cud leave his body and kill his enemies 100 miles away.

I asked him who are the enemies
he replies
Christians Muslims and Jews

Then I speak my skepticism to his powers and say kill me then if u got special powers and rather die and know then to lice and not know.
And I got banned.
Fucking got banned from a Satan worshipping cult.

On January 27 2010 21:51 chris wrote: good idea but what happens if they succeed in brainwashing you?

yeah I'm playing with fire but I'm pretty sure they can't succeed.

go to churches. they would be fun. i would go to a church and when they start singing and saying can you feel the holy spirit, etc. i would pretend to have a really, really loud orgasm, or act way to happy and make a big scene.

some people would probably be stupid enough to take you seriously others would be grossly offended, some might even realize how ridiculous everything is

So you're going to become a Christian?

No-one is above mental manipulation, don't put yourself in a situation where you are completely cut off from normality//people surroundings or influences that would help you remain "yourself". Otherwise troll away and post about it afterwards, i'd find it hilarious.

have fun see ya later

you disregarded the medical opinion of doctors, and chose to take advice a guy you on Youtube who films his own feces, and ur fairly sure you cant be brainwashed?

he won't be brainwashed unless he is already looking for some sort of redemption or purpose in life. which is most people lol, which is why religion works so well, but if he isn't then nothing they can do will brainwash him.

have fun trolling, bring back souvenirs and post about it please ^ ^

edit: small note, some of these people in select cults have been brainwashed to the point of being hit men for their cults should the need arise, soooo be careful XD

not really, same as soldiers are stone-cold killing machines when they join the army

join a cult > they break you down mentally and physically over a period of time through poor nutrition, lack of sleep, endlessly drilling concepts/beliefs into your head. Once you're at rock bottom, they rebuild you as a cult member.

And if you dont say yes to their demands because you truly believe in them, then they can probably make you say it using fear.

i think genjix needs more encouragement......do it, get deep.

thx guys. im just worried about physical harm... if i do this i dont wanna get raped or stabbed by crazies. or cut up for initiation

If you insist on having "laugh in their faces" as part of your plan then id brace yourself for some physical damage.

boggles my mind that genjix is at all capable of using the internet.

On January 27 2010 23:30 byrnesam wrote: not really, same as soldiers are stone-cold killing machines when they join the army join a cult > they break you down mentally and physically over a period of time through poor nutrition, lack of sleep, endlessly drilling concepts/beliefs into your head. Once you're at rock bottom, they rebuild you as a cult member.

point is people who join the army are there to become soldiers, they embrace it, they are looking to be broken and rebuilt otherwise they wouldn't be there.

edit:

On January 27 2010 23:45 genjix wrote: thx guys. im just worried about physical harm... if i do this i dont wanna get raped or stabbed by crazies. or cut up for initiation

this is very probable in most cults you'll find, man just join your local church and do this, although they are probably used to it.

why are you downing him!?!!??!

its sort of like infiltrating the mafia to laugh at them, except ppl have religious and faith based beliefs in cults. its awesome

its HIGH STAKES TROLLING!

On January 28 2010 00:02 Etherone wrote: Show nested quote + On January 27 2010 23:30 byrnesam wrote: not really, same as soldiers are stone-cold killing machines when they join the army join a cult > they break you down mentally and physically over a period of time through poor nutrition, lack of sleep, endlessly drilling concepts/beliefs into your head. Once you're at rock bottom, they rebuild you as a cult member. point is people who join the army are there to become soldiers, they embrace it, they are looking to be broken and rebuilt otherwise they wouldn't be there.

Right, but when you arent embracing it and are resisting their efforts to turn you into one of them, and youre essentially the bad apple in the bunch you will serve as an example.

Its going to be a bit like Milgrams experiment

edit: In that you have people blindly following instructions. If theyre instructed to remove the cancer from their new batch of followers youre probably not going to get a "its not working out, thanks for coming though" and a handshake at the door.

Also illegal activity could have big implications

Also if cult leader decides everyone is going to mass suicide, everyone dies.

I think this thread is trolling me.

Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow...

On January 28 2010 00:14 Baal wrote: Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow...

if youre scared about the consequences of not following what i tell you do, i can make you do almost anything.

On January 28 2010 00:17 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 00:14 Baal wrote: Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow... if youre scared about the consequences of not following what i tell you do, i can make you do almost anything.

thats not brainwashing if the threat is real, that's just blackmail.

On January 28 2010 00:22 Etherone wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 00:17 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:14 Baal wrote: Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow... if youre scared about the consequences of not following what i tell you do, i can make you do almost anything. thats not brainwashing if the threat is real, that's just blackmail.

right, but if I keep you under these conditions long enough, and starve your personality of certain things, youll probably just accept it for the sake of your own sanity. especially if your only way out is death.

no one is immune to brain washing.

people who join a cult have something missing in their lives. people leave cults all the time

On January 27 2010 22:39 byrnesam wrote: you disregarded the medical opinion of doctors, and chose to take advice a guy you on Youtube who films his own feces, and ur fairly sure you cant be brainwashed?

This is so much win.

it sounds like byrnesam has been through this before. i believe him, but none of this will ever happen to me

"What is two plus two?" "I honestly don't know. All I know is that you will kill me if you do that again." -- 1984, George Orwell

And that was more of a paraphrase than a quote since I don't have the book handy; if I did I'd write a longer and more accurate passage.

But seriously; go to church. It's actually pretty fascinating. I live in Orange County, which is a red county with a lot of megachurches and quite a few fundamentalists. If you find the abyss gazing back into you, take a deep breath and take a break.

On January 27 2010 22:01 woodbrave1 wrote: I was once in an online satan worship cult, it was cool. Lots of neat things like: what is god spelled backwards? Dog what's devil spelled backwards lived then the leader starting saying he had special soul powers where he cud leave his body and kill his enemies 100 miles away. I asked him who are the enemies he replies Christians Muslims and Jews Then I speak my skepticism to his powers and say kill me then if u got special powers and rather die and know then to lice and not know. And I got banned. Fucking got banned from a Satan worshipping cult.

I know, WOW clans can be such a bitch

lol

On January 28 2010 00:26 byrnesam wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 00:22 Etherone wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:17 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:14 Baal wrote: Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow... if youre scared about the consequences of not following what i tell you do, i can make you do almost anything. thats not brainwashing if the threat is real, that's just blackmail. right, but if I keep you under these conditions long enough, and starve your personality of certain things, youll probably just accept it for the sake of your own sanity. especially if your only way out is death. no one is immune to brain washing.

I am 100% positive, id put my life at stake that i cannot be brain washed.

lets remember that brain washing is not extortion or black mailing

baal you can be brainwashed

its just a case of how long it would take to break you

id bet my life on it

and i respect your individualism, intelligence, strength, etc.

its a matter of re conditioning your mind.

it can be done

oh and fwiw you do not even have to be willing. you can be wired up and treated with chemicals to synthesize feelings.

so basically chris is saying that Richard Dawkins and Carl Sagan can be brainwashed
well
I find that hard to believe, no matter how long you take trying
I dont even think I can be brainwashed

Laughing in their face is a pretty lame "troll" truth be told

i was trolling superbowl cult on 2p2 a few days ago and i got banned ...

On January 28 2010 06:25 dogmeat wrote: i was trolling superbowl cult on 2p2 a few days ago and i got banned ...

lolllll

Whatever you do, don't go into buddhism, because then you'll get more enlightened and you won't be trolling anything there.

Please do it. But i guess you're once again just looking for attention and don't have the balls to do i obv.

heh OP's video is spot on imo

On January 28 2010 05:35 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 00:26 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:22 Etherone wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:17 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:14 Baal wrote: Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow... if youre scared about the consequences of not following what i tell you do, i can make you do almost anything. thats not brainwashing if the threat is real, that's just blackmail. right, but if I keep you under these conditions long enough, and starve your personality of certain things, youll probably just accept it for the sake of your own sanity. especially if your only way out is death. no one is immune to brain washing. I am 100% positive, id put my life at stake that i cannot be brain washed. lets remember that brain washing is not extortion or black mailing

Brain washing starts with extortion and blackmail.
You wouldnt want to admit that your life was at stake. Join a cult and see what happens.

Youll roll over like a dog after a few weeks.

brainwashing:
A method of systematically altering attitudes and beliefs.

Doesn't this make alot of halucengic drugs brainwash? Because they alter attitudes and beliefs.

You are confusing breaking somebody's spirit with brain washing.

Like interrogations techniques, lack of sleep, isolation, noise therapies and stuff you can break somebodys mind however a resilient mind in short time after the stress is gone it will take back its regular form.

However after any technique i know nobody will ever make me believe in something i dont right now, like lets say any kind of deity.


Anyone who has had a really really bad LSD trip (or DMT or a strong allucinogen) will taste pretty much a "brain washed" state of mind, it can be really scary and it can cause mental scars but a resilient mind after the trip is gone will get past it.

On January 28 2010 05:35 Baal wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 00:26 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:22 Etherone wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:17 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:14 Baal wrote: Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow... if youre scared about the consequences of not following what i tell you do, i can make you do almost anything. thats not brainwashing if the threat is real, that's just blackmail. right, but if I keep you under these conditions long enough, and starve your personality of certain things, youll probably just accept it for the sake of your own sanity. especially if your only way out is death. no one is immune to brain washing. I am 100% positive, id put my life at stake that i cannot be brain washed. lets remember that brain washing is not extortion or black mailing

You're a drooling Alex Jones disciple, ship the money please.

i brainwash myself like clock work.

On January 28 2010 06:52 Achoo wrote: Please do it. But i guess you're once again just looking for attention and don't have the balls to do i obv.

attention whoring on a poker forum?

yeah genjix, you have a narcissistic personality disorder. You seek attention because your emotional intelligence is so low. Normal people with mature emotions get satisfaction through relationships and their work.

Personally, I think people like yourself should be banned from society.

On January 28 2010 19:07 vltava wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 05:35 Baal wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:26 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:22 Etherone wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:17 byrnesam wrote:   On January 28 2010 00:14 Baal wrote: Im scared of you people, seriously do any of you really have so much doubt of their mental resilience that you fear you can be brainwashed? wow... if youre scared about the consequences of not following what i tell you do, i can make you do almost anything. thats not brainwashing if the threat is real, that's just blackmail. right, but if I keep you under these conditions long enough, and starve your personality of certain things, youll probably just accept it for the sake of your own sanity. especially if your only way out is death. no one is immune to brain washing. I am 100% positive, id put my life at stake that i cannot be brain washed. lets remember that brain washing is not extortion or black mailing You're a drooling Alex Jones disciple, ship the money please.

who si this alex jones

On January 28 2010 18:45 Baal wrote: However after any technique i know nobody will ever make me believe in something i dont right now

Believe me, we know that already

On January 28 2010 20:39 blackjacki2 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 18:45 Baal wrote: However after any technique i know nobody will ever make me believe in something i dont right now Believe me, we know that already

rofl owned

baal have you ever read 1984 by george orwell?

or seen a clockwork orange?

im not talking about torture but brainwashing, as you said. torture can be used to brainwash though.

i grant you your point is valid, no one could convince you to believe or disbelieve something you have in your head, right now.

but if you were strapped to a chair and had an I V inserted with a chemical that made you feel sick beyond measure and another that gave you pleasure beyond measure, and when you held to your belief you felt as sick as possible and when you gave in you were given pleasure, you would eventually break. there are plenty of methods for breaking someone and rebuilding them

torture just happens to be a useful way to break someone and integrate them.

to brainwash someone you must first break or destroy the foundation on which the belief is held, you must crush the will of the subject to the point it will accept whatever response generates the best result.

I'd like to contribute that genjix activities here amount to nothing more than trolling for me.
Sign up for 4chan, don't bring your irrelevant shit here. I mean it is ok once in a while but you're just too much.
successful troll is successful

You are from Estonia talk about being irrelevant.

?

thats the most ridiculous statement ever.

On January 29 2010 01:11 woodbrave1 wrote: You are from Estonia talk about being irrelevant.

OMG, NO U DIDNT

On January 28 2010 22:21 chris wrote: baal have you ever read 1984 by george orwell? or seen a clockwork orange? im not talking about torture but brainwashing, as you said. torture can be used to brainwash though. i grant you your point is valid, no one could convince you to believe or disbelieve something you have in your head, right now. but if you were strapped to a chair and had an I V inserted with a chemical that made you feel sick beyond measure and another that gave you pleasure beyond measure, and when you held to your belief you felt as sick as possible and when you gave in you were given pleasure, you would eventually break. there are plenty of methods for breaking someone and rebuilding them torture just happens to be a useful way to break someone and integrate them. to brainwash someone you must first break or destroy the foundation on which the belief is held, you must crush the will of the subject to the point it will accept whatever response generates the best result.

funny that you use the clock work orange as an example because in the end, he actually gets over the pavlov conditioning fantasizing about violence and rape without any pain.

Pavlov conditioning would only last a life time in a very stupid subject, im not even sure if its life long in animals.

Baal you cant be brainwashed in the current conditions you are under true, however in series of circumstances absolutely anyone can be brainwashed, but the chance of that happening is like 0.0000001% to a mentally stable person

On January 28 2010 02:00 whaackum wrote: it sounds like byrnesam has been through this before. i believe him, but none of this will ever happen to me

it's true, he was brainwashed to spread the lulz.

On January 28 2010 22:21 chris wrote: baal have you ever read 1984 by george orwell? or seen a clockwork orange? im not talking about torture but brainwashing, as you said. torture can be used to brainwash though. i grant you your point is valid, no one could convince you to believe or disbelieve something you have in your head, right now. but if you were strapped to a chair and had an I V inserted with a chemical that made you feel sick beyond measure and another that gave you pleasure beyond measure, and when you held to your belief you felt as sick as possible and when you gave in you were given pleasure, you would eventually break. there are plenty of methods for breaking someone and rebuilding them torture just happens to be a useful way to break someone and integrate them. to brainwash someone you must first break or destroy the foundation on which the belief is held, you must crush the will of the subject to the point it will accept whatever response generates the best result.

The Ludovico technique is completely fictional

On January 29 2010 01:11 woodbrave1 wrote: You are from Estonia talk about being irrelevant.

and people like you wonder why does the rest of the world think americans r dumb ...

such a ridiculous amount of ego in this thread
it must be so great to hold so steadfastly to the belief that you guys are so much better than everyone else.

On January 29 2010 10:07 Spitfiree wrote: Show nested quote + On January 29 2010 01:11 woodbrave1 wrote: You are from Estonia talk about being irrelevant. and people like you wonder why does the rest of the world think americans r dumb ...

you are from Bulgaria and call me dumb, How insulting.
What does Bulgaria and joojoobees both have in common?
Alternative names for insect eyes.

haha :D sofia is a nice place

On January 28 2010 18:45 Baal wrote: However after any technique i know nobody will ever make me believe in something i dont right now

That is what is true of how any fundamentalist religious person thinks, and what is the exact opposite of the way any scientist must think.

Scientists pride themselves in their ability to change their minds in light of adequately strong evidence. E.g. "What could disprove evolution? Rabbits in the pre-Cambrian." On the other hand, there is no pre-Cambrian bunny for a fundamentalist or indeed for most religious people. They will continue to believe no matter what counter evidence you supply; that is the very nature of faith, and apparently, the essence of the way you think.

I applaud you for recognizing that arguments from authority hold no weight. However, I think you have erred in (what I perceive as) your reactionary stance that every authority is telling you the opposite of the truth.

the guy Louis interviews here made me think of this.

Side note: Louis Theroux is the nuts

3 minute mark is fucking L O L funny and one of the few times Ive ever heard Louis adopt a sarcastic/mocking tone with a subject.

baal he didnt get over it naturally, the government 'fixed' him, if you recall him being told in the end. the govt undid their brainwashing, supposedly.

and the pavlov conditioning was just an example.

i am quite sure you can be brainwashed, one way or another.

and im aware clockwork orange is fictional, and the technique in the film is fiction, however there are real techniques like that

ROFL at ppl thinking there is no way they can be brainwashed.

it isnt a choice.

it isnt like you say, yeah, ok, ill let myself be brainwashed.

it is forced upon you.

Someone has already brainwashed baal into thinking that he is always correct. This debate is irrelevant.

On January 29 2010 17:36 vltava wrote: Show nested quote + On January 28 2010 18:45 Baal wrote: However after any technique i know nobody will ever make me believe in something i dont right now That is what is true of how any fundamentalist religious person thinks, and what is the exact opposite of the way any scientist must think. Scientists pride themselves in their ability to change their minds in light of adequately strong evidence. E.g. "What could disprove evolution? Rabbits in the pre-Cambrian." On the other hand, there is no pre-Cambrian bunny for a fundamentalist or indeed for most religious people. They will continue to believe no matter what counter evidence you supply; that is the very nature of faith, and apparently, the essence of the way you think. I applaud you for recognizing that arguments from authority hold no weight. However, I think you have erred in (what I perceive as) your reactionary stance that every authority is telling you the opposite of the truth.

and I applaud you vltava, for articulating the scientific method so well. Art