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Submitted by : Try2BePerfect
PokerStars Game #33460479902: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2009/09/30 8:28:51 ET
Table Siarnaq IV 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: jompoo ($68 in chips)
Seat 2: Philyann ($104.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: ilexys ($223.50 in chips)
Seat 6: tpiris ($99 in chips)
tpiris: posts small blind $0.50
jompoo: posts big blind $1
Holecards Dealt to Hero 
Philyann: folds
Hero: raises $2 to $3
ilexys: folds
tpiris: raises $9 to $12
jompoo: folds
Hero: raises $16 to $28
tpiris: raises $71 to $99 and is all-in
It's basic question, but what's your opininon?
No info about villan , just sit down.
Fold or call? |
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| Last edit: 30/09/2009 11:45 |
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TalentedTom   Canada. Sep 30 2009 11:50. Posts 20070 | | |
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Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same | |
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Lol don't 4bet if you aren't snap dropkick backflip calling imo |
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joLin   United States. Sep 30 2009 12:01. Posts 3818 | | |
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lewy313   Poland. Sep 30 2009 12:10. Posts 115 | | |
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Sicks Macks   United States. Sep 30 2009 12:49. Posts 3929 | | |
| On September 30 2009 10:50 TalentedTom wrote:
this is ****ing stupid |
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| On September 30 2009 10:51 GirlsRVicious wrote:
Lol don't 4bet if you aren't snap dropkick backflip calling imo |
lmao |
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traktor   Czech Republic. Sep 30 2009 13:17. Posts 372 | | |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Sep 30 2009 13:17. Posts 10422 | | |
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Sicks Macks   United States. Sep 30 2009 13:26. Posts 3929 | | |
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tutz   Brasil. Sep 30 2009 13:46. Posts 2140 | | |
been there body
been there |
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Sabre.   United States. Sep 30 2009 13:56. Posts 77 | | |
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joLin   United States. Sep 30 2009 14:12. Posts 3818 | | |
ask him if you can raise more. |
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Agent57   United Kingdom. Sep 30 2009 14:27. Posts 29 | | |
Well. It looks to me like you need to call 72 to win 128 which means you need 36% equity to make it a call. QQ vs a mega strong range of AA KK and AK has 39% so it is an obvious call.
As an aside. don't 4 bet good hands if you are not just going to call allin. |
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YoMeR   United States. Sep 30 2009 15:14. Posts 12438 | | |
here come the lynch mob... oh wait. |
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vlseph   United States. Sep 30 2009 15:18. Posts 3026 | | |
imo snap dropkick backflip call |
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The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. | |
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| On September 30 2009 10:50 TalentedTom wrote:
this is ****ing stupid |
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you should ALWAYS fold QQ pre vs unknown when u 4 bet and he shove
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edzwoo   United States. Sep 30 2009 16:21. Posts 5911 | | |
Folding this is chip dumping. |
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tutz   Brasil. Sep 30 2009 17:21. Posts 2140 | | |
| On September 30 2009 15:17 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
you should ALWAYS fold QQ pre vs unknown when u 4 bet and he shove
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Oxy   Canada. Sep 30 2009 18:14. Posts 2293 | | |
| On September 30 2009 10:50 TalentedTom wrote:
this is ****ing stupid |
as usual Tom sums up the topic in the first post |
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YoMeR   United States. Sep 30 2009 18:44. Posts 12438 | | |
4 betting preflop for information is one of the strongest moves in No Limit Hold 'em. |
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If you don't want to get it in all-in preflop....don't 4 bet simple call and play it accordingly. |
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I called of course, he show KK but, it happens.
I turned Q, and won. |
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kaisr   Canada. Oct 05 2009 18:47. Posts 1058 | | |
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LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 05 2009 19:02. Posts 15163 | | |
hey thats what I was going to say :/ |
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tutz   Brasil. Oct 05 2009 19:27. Posts 2140 | | |
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requiem   United States. Oct 05 2009 19:28. Posts 148 | | |
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the cleaner   Germany. Oct 05 2009 19:43. Posts 3014 | | |
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 172384116 626394.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 114030168 626394.00 { QQ }
do you understand why you cant 4bet fold this ever ! you need 35.5% equity (71$ to win 200$) vs the tightest of ranges to break even, and you have 39.64%. |
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there are no facts only interpretations | Last edit: 05/10/2009 19:45 |
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dahornnn   United Kingdom. Oct 05 2009 19:54. Posts 693 | | |
| On October 05 2009 17:08 Try2BePerfect wrote:
I called of course, he show KK but, it happens.
I turned Q, and won. |
Rinse and repeat. |
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| On October 05 2009 17:08 Try2BePerfect wrote:
I called of course, he show KK but, it happens.
I turned Q, and won. |
holy fuck is this the sickest level in recent memory or holy shit my mind is blown |
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Eluflop   Estonia. Oct 12 2009 04:35. Posts 3835 | | |
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Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Oct 12 2009 04:42. Posts 841 | | |
whole thread has me dying of laughter |
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LilDeano89   Australia. Oct 12 2009 04:56. Posts 576 | | |
i cant believe people actually opened pokerstove to reply to this |
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LilDeano89   Australia. Oct 12 2009 04:58. Posts 576 | | |
| On September 30 2009 10:51 GirlsRVicious wrote:
Lol don't 4bet if you aren't snap dropkick backflip calling imo |
lol |
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in these spots I like to flip a coin; heads is call, tails is call |
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LilDeano89   Australia. Oct 12 2009 07:50. Posts 576 | | |
| On October 12 2009 05:48 Night2o1 wrote:
in these spots I like to flip a coin; heads is dropkick call, tails is backflip call |
fyp |
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| On October 12 2009 03:56 LilDeano89 wrote:
i cant believe people actually opened pokerstove to reply to this |
X10 |
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Fox   . Oct 12 2009 18:42. Posts 3110 | | |
This depresses me that i'm also in NL100. =[ |
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traxamillion   United States. Oct 12 2009 20:12. Posts 10468 | | |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Oct 12 2009 20:38. Posts 8119 | | |
One time I was playing 10/20 deep with antes. It folded to me in the smallblind with ace-king offsuit so I potted to 75. My opponent in the big blind reraised to 240. I reraised to 580. He reraised to 1380. I went allin for about 5500. He instantly called with 2 queens. I won, but just imagine how sad he would be if u showed him this hand! |
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n0rthf4ce   United States. Oct 12 2009 20:38. Posts 8119 | | |
I can tell cool stories too! |
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Twisted   Netherlands. Oct 12 2009 21:24. Posts 10422 | | |
2 weeks later and this topic is still ridiculously funny. |
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Maynard!   United States. Oct 12 2009 23:24. Posts 4453 | | |
| On October 12 2009 20:24 FrinkX wrote:
Such an obvious spot to fold QQ |
Couldn't agree with you more. |
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Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. | |
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Daut   United States. Oct 12 2009 23:43. Posts 8955 | | |
hey guys try to be nice, he is trying 2 be perfect at poker |
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NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, Daut | Last edit: 12/10/2009 23:44 |
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kaisr   Canada. Oct 13 2009 00:45. Posts 1058 | | |
| On October 12 2009 19:38 n0rthf4ce wrote:
One time I was playing 10/20 deep with antes. It folded to me in the smallblind with ace-king offsuit so I potted to 75. My opponent in the big blind reraised to 240. I reraised to 580. He reraised to 1380. I went allin for about 5500. He instantly called with 2 queens. I won, but just imagine how sad he would be if u showed him this hand! |
cool story bro |
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player999   Brasil. Oct 13 2009 02:41. Posts 7978 | | |
you got lucky, shouldve FrinkX'ed this hand |
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Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol | |
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TimDawg   United States. Oct 13 2009 03:41. Posts 10197 | | |
| On October 12 2009 19:38 n0rthf4ce wrote:
One time I was playing 10/20 deep with antes. It folded to me in the smallblind with ace-king offsuit so I potted to 75. My opponent in the big blind reraised to 240. I reraised to 580. He reraised to 1380. I went allin for about 5500. He instantly called with 2 queens. I won, but just imagine how sad he would be if u showed him this hand! |
gayest story ever |
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online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball | |
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Augury   United States. Oct 13 2009 04:23. Posts 222 | | |
Don't value 3bet or 4bet any hands you're not willing to get all in preflop... If you're ever planning on folding queens to a shove after you 4bet then you're way better off just calling his raise. Same thing goes for value 3 betting. |
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Oxy   Canada. Oct 13 2009 07:12. Posts 2293 | | |
beat: hero concealed screenname |
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edzwoo   United States. Oct 13 2009 08:36. Posts 5911 | | |
Fold he's got pocket tens. |
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Daggo   Bulgaria. Oct 13 2009 11:14. Posts 44 | | |
just shove it you will allays be ahead with QQ in long run |
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Repusz   Hungary. Oct 13 2009 18:29. Posts 1033 | | |
It is good to 4bet QQ here as a bluff. you have blockers. |
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LOL blockers to your own hand
that is awesome |
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tutz   Brasil. Oct 13 2009 19:31. Posts 2140 | | |
hope the OP is not emo otherwise he will probly quit poker after all the love shown here
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Clutch   United States. Oct 14 2009 01:37. Posts 83 | | |
Never EVER 4b a hand that, when your opponent shoves, you have any kind of decision (for 100bbs that is). If your opponent is so tight that he is only doing this with KK+, then you shouldn't be 4betting this preflop. If he is going all in with KK, AA, and AK, this is still a call. That said, snap fistpump call. It would be good to 4b bluff here with A5 occasionally because when he goes all in, you have an easy fold. |
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