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Try2BePerfect   . Sep 30 2009 11:45. Posts 469

Submitted by : Try2BePerfect

PokerStars Game #33460479902: Holdem No Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2009/09/30 8:28:51 ET
Table Siarnaq IV 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: jompoo ($68 in chips)
Seat 2: Philyann ($104.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero ($100 in chips)
Seat 5: ilexys ($223.50 in chips)
Seat 6: tpiris ($99 in chips)
tpiris: posts small blind $0.50
jompoo: posts big blind $1

Holecards
Dealt to Hero QdQs
Philyann: folds
Hero: raises $2 to $3
ilexys: folds
tpiris: raises $9 to $12
jompoo: folds
Hero: raises $16 to $28
tpiris: raises $71 to $99 and is all-in



It's basic question, but what's your opininon?
No info about villan , just sit down.
Fold or call?

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 Last edit: 30/09/2009 11:45

TalentedTom    Canada. Sep 30 2009 11:50. Posts 20070

this is ****ing stupid

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light not our darkness that most frightens us and as we let our own lights shine we unconsciously give other people permision to do the same 

GirlsRVicious   United States. Sep 30 2009 11:51. Posts 1094

Lol don't 4bet if you aren't snap dropkick backflip calling imo

LOL Live Pokerz 

joLin   United States. Sep 30 2009 12:01. Posts 3818

.........

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

lewy313   Poland. Sep 30 2009 12:10. Posts 115

nobrainer lol


Sicks Macks   United States. Sep 30 2009 12:49. Posts 3929


  On September 30 2009 10:50 TalentedTom wrote:
this is ****ing stupid

Mr. Will Throwit 

terrybunny19240   United States. Sep 30 2009 13:05. Posts 13829


  On September 30 2009 10:51 GirlsRVicious wrote:
Lol don't 4bet if you aren't snap dropkick backflip calling imo



lmao


traktor   Czech Republic. Sep 30 2009 13:17. Posts 372

caaaalllll


Twisted    Netherlands. Sep 30 2009 13:17. Posts 10422

LOOOL this topic


Sicks Macks   United States. Sep 30 2009 13:26. Posts 3929

He is AA

Mr. Will Throwit 

tutz   Brasil. Sep 30 2009 13:46. Posts 2140

been there body
been there


Sabre.   United States. Sep 30 2009 13:56. Posts 77

now press call


joLin   United States. Sep 30 2009 14:12. Posts 3818

ask him if you can raise more.

YoUr_KiLLeR @ TL 

Agent57   United Kingdom. Sep 30 2009 14:27. Posts 29

Well. It looks to me like you need to call 72 to win 128 which means you need 36% equity to make it a call. QQ vs a mega strong range of AA KK and AK has 39% so it is an obvious call.

As an aside. don't 4 bet good hands if you are not just going to call allin.


YoMeR   United States. Sep 30 2009 15:14. Posts 12438

here come the lynch mob... oh wait.

eZ Life. 

vlseph   United States. Sep 30 2009 15:18. Posts 3026

imo snap dropkick backflip call

The only hands a nit balances in his range are the nuts, the second nuts, and the third nuts. 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Sep 30 2009 16:16. Posts 10896


  On September 30 2009 10:50 TalentedTom wrote:
this is ****ing stupid


HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Sep 30 2009 16:17. Posts 10896

you should ALWAYS fold QQ pre vs unknown when u 4 bet and he shove


edzwoo   United States. Sep 30 2009 16:21. Posts 5911

Folding this is chip dumping.


tutz   Brasil. Sep 30 2009 17:21. Posts 2140


  On September 30 2009 15:17 HeRoS)eNGagE wrote:
you should ALWAYS fold QQ pre vs unknown when u 4 bet and he shove



love you


Oxy   Canada. Sep 30 2009 18:14. Posts 2293


  On September 30 2009 10:50 TalentedTom wrote:
this is ****ing stupid



as usual Tom sums up the topic in the first post

this shit is OBSURD 

YoMeR   United States. Sep 30 2009 18:44. Posts 12438

4 betting preflop for information is one of the strongest moves in No Limit Hold 'em.

eZ Life. 

FlopedtheJoint   Canada. Oct 01 2009 14:51. Posts 518

If you don't want to get it in all-in preflop....don't 4 bet simple call and play it accordingly.

I am el gringo 

Try2BePerfect   . Oct 05 2009 18:08. Posts 469

I called of course, he show KK but, it happens.
I turned Q, and won.


kaisr   Canada. Oct 05 2009 18:47. Posts 1058

cool story bro


LemOn[5thF]   Czech Republic. Oct 05 2009 19:02. Posts 15163

hey thats what I was going to say :/

93% Sure!  

tutz   Brasil. Oct 05 2009 19:27. Posts 2140

can I be your friend?


requiem   United States. Oct 05 2009 19:28. Posts 148

what a great troll


the cleaner   Germany. Oct 05 2009 19:43. Posts 3014

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 172384116 626394.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 114030168 626394.00 { QQ }

do you understand why you cant 4bet fold this ever ! you need 35.5% equity (71$ to win 200$) vs the tightest of ranges to break even, and you have 39.64%.

there are no facts only interpretationsLast edit: 05/10/2009 19:45

dahornnn   United Kingdom. Oct 05 2009 19:54. Posts 693


  On October 05 2009 17:08 Try2BePerfect wrote:
I called of course, he show KK but, it happens.
I turned Q, and won.


Rinse and repeat.


terrybunny19240   United States. Oct 05 2009 20:11. Posts 13829


  On October 05 2009 17:08 Try2BePerfect wrote:
I called of course, he show KK but, it happens.
I turned Q, and won.



holy fuck is this the sickest level in recent memory or holy shit my mind is blown


Eluflop   Estonia. Oct 12 2009 04:35. Posts 3835

nuff said


Shabbzoy   United Kingdom. Oct 12 2009 04:42. Posts 841

whole thread has me dying of laughter


LilDeano89   Australia. Oct 12 2009 04:56. Posts 576

i cant believe people actually opened pokerstove to reply to this

Money aint a thang 

LilDeano89   Australia. Oct 12 2009 04:58. Posts 576


  On September 30 2009 10:51 GirlsRVicious wrote:
Lol don't 4bet if you aren't snap dropkick backflip calling imo



lol

Money aint a thang 

terrybunny19240   United States. Oct 12 2009 06:48. Posts 13829

in these spots I like to flip a coin; heads is call, tails is call

 Last edit: 12/10/2009 06:49

LilDeano89   Australia. Oct 12 2009 07:50. Posts 576


  On October 12 2009 05:48 Night2o1 wrote:
in these spots I like to flip a coin; heads is dropkick call, tails is backflip call



fyp

Money aint a thang 

HeRoS)eNGagE   Canada. Oct 12 2009 12:47. Posts 10896


  On October 12 2009 03:56 LilDeano89 wrote:
i cant believe people actually opened pokerstove to reply to this


X10


Fox   . Oct 12 2009 18:42. Posts 3110

This depresses me that i'm also in NL100. =[


traxamillion   United States. Oct 12 2009 20:12. Posts 10468

sick life must be nice


n0rthf4ce    United States. Oct 12 2009 20:38. Posts 8119

One time I was playing 10/20 deep with antes. It folded to me in the smallblind with ace-king offsuit so I potted to 75. My opponent in the big blind reraised to 240. I reraised to 580. He reraised to 1380. I went allin for about 5500. He instantly called with 2 queens. I won, but just imagine how sad he would be if u showed him this hand!

www.cardrunners.com 

n0rthf4ce    United States. Oct 12 2009 20:38. Posts 8119

I can tell cool stories too!

www.cardrunners.com 

Twisted    Netherlands. Oct 12 2009 21:24. Posts 10422

2 weeks later and this topic is still ridiculously funny.


Maynard!   United States. Oct 12 2009 23:24. Posts 4453


  On October 12 2009 20:24 FrinkX wrote:
Such an obvious spot to fold QQ



Couldn't agree with you more.

Now I really am a busto. Thanks FTP. 

Daut    United States. Oct 12 2009 23:43. Posts 8955

hey guys try to be nice, he is trying 2 be perfect at poker

NewbSaibot: 18 TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT. Because FUCK YOU, DautLast edit: 12/10/2009 23:44

TimDawg    United States. Oct 13 2009 00:21. Posts 10197


  On October 12 2009 22:43 Daut wrote:
hey guys try to be nice, he is trying 2 be perfect at poker

edit: you spelled "to" wrong because you spelled it like "two"

get it?

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinballLast edit: 13/10/2009 00:26

kaisr   Canada. Oct 13 2009 00:45. Posts 1058


  On October 12 2009 19:38 n0rthf4ce wrote:
One time I was playing 10/20 deep with antes. It folded to me in the smallblind with ace-king offsuit so I potted to 75. My opponent in the big blind reraised to 240. I reraised to 580. He reraised to 1380. I went allin for about 5500. He instantly called with 2 queens. I won, but just imagine how sad he would be if u showed him this hand!



cool story bro


player999   Brasil. Oct 13 2009 02:41. Posts 7978

you got lucky, shouldve FrinkX'ed this hand

Browsing through your hand histories makes me wonder that you might not be aware these games are possibly play money. Have you ever tried to cash out? - Kapol 

TimDawg    United States. Oct 13 2009 03:41. Posts 10197


  On October 12 2009 19:38 n0rthf4ce wrote:
One time I was playing 10/20 deep with antes. It folded to me in the smallblind with ace-king offsuit so I potted to 75. My opponent in the big blind reraised to 240. I reraised to 580. He reraised to 1380. I went allin for about 5500. He instantly called with 2 queens. I won, but just imagine how sad he would be if u showed him this hand!

gayest story ever

online bob is actually a pretty smart person, not at all like the creepy fucker that sits in the sofa telling me he does nasty shit to me when im asleep - pinball 

Augury   United States. Oct 13 2009 04:23. Posts 222

Don't value 3bet or 4bet any hands you're not willing to get all in preflop... If you're ever planning on folding queens to a shove after you 4bet then you're way better off just calling his raise. Same thing goes for value 3 betting.

http://www.fnatic.com 

Oxy   Canada. Oct 13 2009 07:12. Posts 2293

beat: hero concealed screenname

this shit is OBSURD 

edzwoo   United States. Oct 13 2009 08:36. Posts 5911

Fold he's got pocket tens.


Daggo   Bulgaria. Oct 13 2009 11:14. Posts 44

just shove it you will allays be ahead with QQ in long run


Repusz   Hungary. Oct 13 2009 18:29. Posts 1033

It is good to 4bet QQ here as a bluff. you have blockers.


terrybunny19240   United States. Oct 13 2009 18:38. Posts 13829

LOL blockers to your own hand

that is awesome


tutz   Brasil. Oct 13 2009 19:31. Posts 2140

hope the OP is not emo otherwise he will probly quit poker after all the love shown here


Clutch   United States. Oct 14 2009 01:37. Posts 83

Never EVER 4b a hand that, when your opponent shoves, you have any kind of decision (for 100bbs that is). If your opponent is so tight that he is only doing this with KK+, then you shouldn't be 4betting this preflop. If he is going all in with KK, AA, and AK, this is still a call. That said, snap fistpump call. It would be good to 4b bluff here with A5 occasionally because when he goes all in, you have an easy fold.


 



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