good spot to make a big fold (deep)?

villain is a pretty aggro regular that i think usually plays higher but i could be wrong. as far as history goes we've been pretty aggressive with each other (across 4-5 tables) in general, 3betting/4betting a decent amount

some significant hands:

http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/701575
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/701578
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/701581
http://www.liquidpoker.net/h/701582

like/dislike my play?

Submitted by : TimDawg

PokerStars Game #29085097206: Holdem No Limit ($3/$6) - 2009/06/07 4:34:13 ET
Table El Djezair II 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: PityDaFoolz ($291 in chips)
Seat 2: MNBigDaddy ($672.80 in chips)
Seat 3: ChipUniter ($1402.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($1089.75 in chips)
Seat 5: very_good10 ($120 in chips)
Seat 6: Punty ($624.75 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind $3
very_good10: posts big blind $6

Holecards
Dealt to Hero
Punty: folds
PityDaFoolz: folds
MNBigDaddy: folds
ChipUniter: raises $6 to $12
Hero: calls $9
very_good10: folds

Flop (Pot : $30.00)

   
Hero: checks
ChipUniter: checks

Turn (Pot : $30.00)

   
Hero: bets $30
ChipUniter: raises $50 to $80
Hero: raises $148 to $228
ChipUniter: calls $148

River (Pot : $486.00)

   
Hero: bets $324
ChipUniter: raises $838.05 to $1162.05 and is all-in
Hero: folds
Uncalled bet ($838.05) returned to ChipUniter
ChipUniter collected $1131 from pot
ChipUniter: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $1134 | Rake $3
Board  
Seat 1: PityDaFoolz folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 2: MNBigDaddy folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 3: ChipUniter (button) collected ($1131)
Seat 4: Hero (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 5: very_good10 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Punty folded before Flop (didnt bet)

edit: ty

What do you put him on?
with ur history I doubt he will ever check back 99-JJ on flop.Maybe the same goes for 78s,esp with 200bb deep(though that is more questionable).
So he can only have KQhh or KQss(in the cases he doesnt c-bet them).

you think he'll call your riv bet with pair of jacks? if not, betting river is an error and u should be check calling. his hands polarized to nothing or hand that kills u. check riv and rep your hand to misdraw that's giving up and let him bluff. however, if u believe u can induce a shove from worst betting is fine and u should never be folding

Cant fold after betting the river, I prolly wouldnt bet the river like andrew said we are hoping to get called by maybe 33,9T(which he prolly bets himself anyway) or like QJ or JhXh. Once he shoves we are beat by like 78s,KhQh maybe 99 but with your history and the odds I cant ever lay this down.Not to mention he probably always bets the flop w 78s and with KhQh also a fair ammount so we should probably discount some of those combos.

Submitted by : PoorUser

PokerStars Game #29045947932: Holdem No Limit ($5/$10) - 2009/06/06 2:20:31 ET
Table Mizar II 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: ChipUniter ($2608.50 in chips)
Seat 4: PoorUser ($1211 in chips)
Seat 5: __h1gh1ander ($887 in chips)
Seat 6: daMoor ($1000 in chips)
daMoor: posts small blind $5
ChipUniter: posts big blind $10

Holecards
Dealt to PoorUser
PoorUser: raises $20 to $30
__h1gh1ander: folds
daMoor: folds
ChipUniter: raises $70 to $100
PoorUser: calls $70

Flop (Pot : $205.00)

   
ChipUniter: checks
PoorUser: bets $140
ChipUniter: raises $170 to $310
PoorUser: calls $170

Turn (Pot : $825.00)

   
ChipUniter: checks
PoorUser: bets $260
Pillars joins the table at seat #1
ChipUniter: raises $260 to $520
PoorUser: calls $260

River (Pot : $1,865.00)

   
ChipUniter: checks
PoorUser: bets $281 and is all-in
ChipUniter: folds
Uncalled bet ($281) returned to PoorUser
PoorUser collected $1863 from pot
PoorUser: doesnt show hand

Summary
Total pot $1865 | Rake $2
Board  
Seat 3: ChipUniter (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: PoorUser collected ($1863)
Seat 5: __h1gh1ander (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet)
Seat 6: daMoor (small blind) folded before Flop

sick hand PU

wow. that hand is so sick in so many levels. big fail since u didn't show

On June 07 2009 08:46 PoorUser wrote: Submitted by : PoorUser PokerStars Game #29045947932: Holdem No Limit ($5/$10) - 2009/06/06 2:20:31 ET Table Mizar II 6-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 3: ChipUniter ($2608.50 in chips) Seat 4: PoorUser ($1211 in chips) Seat 5: __h1gh1ander ($887 in chips) Seat 6: daMoor ($1000 in chips) daMoor: posts small blind $5 ChipUniter: posts big blind $10 Holecards Dealt to PoorUser PoorUser: raises $20 to $30 __h1gh1ander: folds daMoor: folds ChipUniter: raises $70 to $100 PoorUser: calls $70 Flop (Pot : $205.00)     ChipUniter: checks PoorUser: bets $140 ChipUniter: raises $170 to $310 PoorUser: calls $170 Turn (Pot : $825.00)     ChipUniter: checks PoorUser: bets $260 Pillars joins the table at seat #1 ChipUniter: raises $260 to $520 PoorUser: calls $260 River (Pot : $1,865.00)     ChipUniter: checks PoorUser: bets $281 and is all-in ChipUniter: folds Uncalled bet ($281) returned to PoorUser PoorUser collected $1863 from pot PoorUser: doesnt show hand Summary Total pot $1865 | Rake $2 Board   Seat 3: ChipUniter (big blind) folded on the River Seat 4: PoorUser collected ($1863) Seat 5: __h1gh1ander (button) folded before Flop (didnt bet) Seat 6: daMoor (small blind) folded before Flop so no, you cant fold

this hand caused me to have a lulzexplosion

loool pooruser what the fuck haha

lol pooruser this is so sick

meh I don't think I'm folding

omfg that hand was against chipuniter

sickest tilt, why did i not look at that closer

PoorUser, that hand makes me

^ lololololololol ^

TimDawg makes a post about his hand, and PU derails it with his insanity.

LOLOLOLOL

thread gg'd by pu and cosmo

btw worst fold ever

yeah that hand was cool but more discussion pls

PU <3

bet bigger on river
its not like ur gonna get Q9 to call you if you bet less

is he really checking 99/1010/JJ on flop? esp after your history together?

so basicvally you're putting him on 8Qhh, 87hh, KQhh? i dont see how he has anything else that has u beat...

what was your though process?

you can probably exclude 87hh as well

so given hes v bluffy, has only 2 hands that beat you, and probably shoves worse for value, and you bet really raelly small, this is a very easy call

i think its an ok fold vs most people

probably doesn't add any insight to the hand, but there's a semi-epic thread made by villain about a month ago if you're interested:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/...ance/beat-lost-97-my-bankroll-479995/

On June 08 2009 21:56 NMcNasty wrote: i think its an ok fold vs most people

vs the minority of people imo

On June 10 2009 18:55 bigredhoss wrote: probably doesn't add any insight to the hand, but there's a semi-epic thread made by villain about a month ago if you're interested: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/...ance/beat-lost-97-my-bankroll-479995/

ha that was a good read

so i sent him a pm on 2p2 asking for results and he sent me back this:

"Hey, would rather not say too specifically on the hand but I'll tell you that I played it a bit strangely and was lucky with how the situation worked out. I probably would have called down in your spot, but your hand was beat that time."

would still like there to be more discussion. maybe this will start it

loooooooooooooool PU...that was...disgustingly sick ahah