5/10 Live, Hero Call? - Page 2

On April 08 2009 19:24 n0rthf4ce wrote: im sure this is how 80% of below avg tourney players play A7/A9 cept for the river bet size, as rekrul mentioned. very puzzling!

uh no they all check the river

are you kidding me LOL u have no idea how often in live 5/10 games n shit the river goes check check first guy has AK/AQ/AJ 2nd guy shows A9 or w/e lol

man him saying "only" is scary

how is this not bet> fold > call..

On April 09 2009 01:33 n0rthf4ce wrote: man him saying "only" is scary

only something a faggot with nothing trying to be cool desperately wanting to show a succesful bluff would say

(or someone with the fucking nuts, which he CANNOT have here)

On April 09 2009 04:54 Rekrul wrote: Show nested quote + On April 09 2009 01:33 n0rthf4ce wrote: man him saying "only" is scary only something a faggot with nothing trying to be cool desperately wanting to show a succesful bluff would say (or someone with the fucking nuts, which he CANNOT have here)

ONLY 575

LOL

this is so on the money

at 5/10 I would really prefer just giving it to him but if the read on the fact he said "ONLY" is strong, a call here is def profitable + the fact its good for ur table image.

call b/c if you are right habib will flip his shit and tilt like none other, giving us lots of money in the process.

i agree with most of what rek is saying about live games tendencies here. i call and be shown 76o sometimes tho and go wtf =[

nobody thinks he can have A8 ? would makes sense for an old nit who misses value a lot to be scared of actually raising his 2 pairs on the turn, and then confidently betting the river....

Interesting story, I fold because I don't want to get berated by this old geezer even when I'm right.

Otherwise, I like a call. I mean do you expect someone like him to just check behind with his busted draws or would he bluff them always? Anyways live poker is not my thing, so I don't know anything.

On April 11 2009 01:30 Fayth wrote: nobody thinks he can have A8 ? would makes sense for an old nit who misses value a lot to be scared of actually raising his 2 pairs on the turn, and then confidently betting the river....

call flop ?

On April 11 2009 08:36 Patrocle wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2009 01:30 Fayth wrote: nobody thinks he can have A8 ? would makes sense for an old nit who misses value a lot to be scared of actually raising his 2 pairs on the turn, and then confidently betting the river.... call flop ?

huh lol obv, he flops middle pair he's obv not gonna fold to a c-bet

yesterday, a relevant hand occurred. the game was 5-dollar and 10-dollar unlimited texas. we were playing in the poker room at the venetian casino-resort in las vegas. here's how the hand went down:

i raised to $40 from middle position, and got called by the cutoff, button, and one of the blinds. the flop came AA3 rainbow. the action checked to the button, who bet $120. the blind folded, i folded, and the cutoff called.

the turn was a 7, completing the rainbow. the cutoff checked, and the button bet $150, leaving himself $220 behind. the cutoff called. the river was a 9. the cutoff checked and the button immediately checked behind. the cutoff didn't want to show his hand - he looked embarrassed. the button didn't want to show his hand either - he looked even more embarrassed. after about 20 seconds of the dealer demanding "show your cards!" the button finally turned over AK. the cutoff disgustedly showed AQ and was furious.

so, no, fayth, he can't have A8

On April 11 2009 16:25 Fayth wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2009 08:36 Patrocle wrote:   On April 11 2009 01:30 Fayth wrote: nobody thinks he can have A8 ? would makes sense for an old nit who misses value a lot to be scared of actually raising his 2 pairs on the turn, and then confidently betting the river.... call flop ? huh lol obv, he flops middle pair he's obv not gonna fold to a c-bet

live idiots fold middle pair constantly, and usually face-up to show you that they respect you, that way they think you'll fold to their bluffs

doesnt this whole speech proves villain could have had A8 on turn by playing it weak, just like these 2 fishes played their hand super weak without a full house

A8 is possible, but I read his turn behaviour not so much as "made hand or draw", but rather just "draw". ^^

On April 11 2009 20:23 Fayth wrote: doesnt this whole speech proves villain could have had A8 on turn by playing it weak, just like these 2 fishes played their hand super weak without a full house

his speech means he is bluffing

turn behavior is also never A8

On April 12 2009 06:38 Rhaegar wrote: A8 is possible, but I read his turn behaviour not so much as "made hand or draw", but rather just "draw". ^^

live oldies ever actually "think" about raising draws on turn ?

More like fake-thinking so that it'll look like they're slowplaying something?

i dont know really, his fake thinking can also mean a weak hand (for him, could be 2 pair tho) that wanted to act tough and didn't want you to bet the river so he could get showdown, an 8 is possible imo, I think i put him on 98 or 87 actually.

I mean he can call the flop with those hands, then on the turn the Ace is a great card for you and he knows you will fire bluffs at it, he still has a lot of outs, but is contemplating a move so he doesn't have to face a big river bet from you if it is a blank and have a tough decision.