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i actually agree with some things he said that u guys translated, is it just me? just my dumbass side possibly

lollol I would be shocked if this guy beats 200NL online.

i hate that guy

rofl

"durrr would never bet 105k on the turn with A2 or TT, he would bet smaller because he isnt scared of anything"

this is true most of the time, betting that big he polarizes his range so much

wheres the hand?
[edit] dumb, on highstakes poker

On March 23 2009 13:04 TimDawg wrote: ugh very tilting indeed

QFT

A+ mspaint skills ahahaha

Everyone from sweden fucking sucks at poker

Sorry RaSZi

i think durrrs hand was kinda a gamble. because even if he put barry on an overpair and knew he would fold, he also knew peter was very very strong to have cold called that flop raise and might not have folded.

ironically durrs image which should have paid him off came back to bite him in the ass on the recent hand in HSP S5E4. that hand was soo sick, durrs aa vs barrys j9. durrr handled the epic 500k beat like a class A gentleman. i can imagine what would have happen if it was phil helmuth rofl. and barry trying to justify his bad call at the end is just lol

mad respect for durrr now.

durrr lets barry run it three times if he wishes
barry doesnt then dawn actually yawns when the river comes and makes a joke lol

amazing kid

hahha, wow

On March 24 2009 04:11 angryfishes wrote: durrr lets barry run it three times if he wishes barry doesnt then dawn actually yawns when the river comes and makes a joke lol amazing kid

What do you mean lets him run it 3 times? doesnt give barry any more chance to win lol

I havent read any of the responses, so I can just say that I agree with saki, that the article is written by an idiot. I know this because I agree with his assessment of Durr's play, and I'm a shitty NL10 player so wtf do I know. So by power of elimination one can conclude that he is an idiot, and thus Durr's play was brilliant.

barry's joke was a prob pet to raise funds for charities afaik

On March 24 2009 21:00 thewh00sel wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2009 04:11 angryfishes wrote: durrr lets barry run it three times if he wishes barry doesnt then dawn actually yawns when the river comes and makes a joke lol amazing kid What do you mean lets him run it 3 times? doesnt give barry any more chance to win lol

But it gives him a chance to lose less when he is pretty far behind if he happens to hit >0 of the 3 boards.

On March 24 2009 03:14 angryfishes wrote: i think durrrs hand was kinda a gamble. because even if he put barry on an overpair and knew he would fold, he also knew peter was very very strong to have cold called that flop raise and might not have

I don't think it was a gamble at all...I think he knew EXACTLY where EVERYONE was in the hand by the turn, and he took advantage of it (after Barry folded he even pointed out the order of best to worst hands XD). Eastgate had been playing pretty tight up to that point and playing very cautiously with good hands when the pot started getting really big. See the A6 hand against Tom, and maybe a few other hands that I can't really remember atm. Basically (imo) he had built kind of a scared money image because he was probably playing too deep, and having success in tournaments rather than cash means that maybe he's not as comfortable playing with a very deep stack like he had here.

Tom had played with Barry quite a bit before that hand and I obv assume thinks that Barry can think on a high level and evaluate the situation well. On the show he had been playing pretty tight up to that point because he had Durrrr, Benyamine, and Eli right behind him, and he even said in his blog that he hated his position at the table because of that and also having the 2 tightest players in Eastgate and Doyle to his right. Most likely he didn't feel like getting into too much trouble in big pots OOP with marginal hands the whole time. Durrr probably recognized this as well.

So when Barry opened UTG and got a family pot behind him, Durrrr probably knew that he was pretty strong and didn't like all the action he was getting going to the flop. He probably wasn't too worried about most of the other players as played, either. They could probably have anything behind all the action in front.

On the flop Barry cbets iirc, and Durrrr raises. He knows this should get the pot HU most of the time unless someone hit the flop big (obv TT or 2x), and with him having one of the Ts this makes that much less likely (although that was probably just a small factor in the bet, anyway, given everyone's already wide range). He also thought that since he was also in an early position relative to everyone in the hand on a family flop and he was raising a polarized cbet anyway, that he might have a decent amount of FE against Barry even if it gets HU. If not, then he has plenty of ammo for later streets having Barry stuck OOP.

When Eastgate cold calls OOP, this probably sends some alarm bells off in Tom's head, tipping him off that he has some kind of a 2x. When Barry calls he shouldn't be so worried, because he probably knows that he can use Eastgate's flat to get Barry out of the hand on the turn. His only problem is whether Eastgate will fold. As I said before, Eastgate had the image of being somewhat scared money being so deep in spots like this, and Tom probably knew that after seeing him show down the A6 hand agaisnt him, so he was probably going to use that to his advantage here as well. By firing such a big bet on the turn, he puts Eastgate in a spot where he can expect another huge bet on the river. With only a 4 kicker facing such heat against durrrr from a bad position relative to everyone on the flop, he probably thought that Tom had it more often than not and just let it go because he was scared of having to put a shitload of money in when he probably just ends up showing down a second best hand. Then after Eastgate folds Barry thinks for a while, and probably ends up folding for the same reason.

lol wow. Sorry for writing such a long post, but while I was watching the hand play out on TV that's what I thought about it, and when Tom immediately pointed to Eastgate and said that "he probably had the best hand," that's when I knew that he put them on the hands they had for sure. I only play NL200 so I probably shouldn't be analyzing these hands or whatever, but I guess I can at least have an opinion =P

Durrrr really is sicker than sick, imo.

@JoeDeertay: Eastgate is cashgame player that won a tournament, not a tournament player playing cashgames on tv and durrrr hasnt played a lot with Barry.

there's a thread here: http://pokerroad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5203&page=3
it some more intelligent discussion, both eastgate and dwan posted, durrr mostly commented on the other players play tho. I think jimmy fricke's point of how durrr puts his opponents in reverse implied odds spots is really good.

i mean does anyone remember when eastgate had A6 vs dwans 67 and they both had trips? dwan knew eastgate was playing pretty nitty and he could probably get him to fold trips if he put in a scary bet.